Тайбэй, 2016, занятие 2

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Hi.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you again for coming.

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Yesterday I wrote a text to my teacher.

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I said, Taiwan's the only place in the world where so many people will come to hear Jingang Jing.

[Speaker 1]
Thank you for that. So, we are ... if you have a program, I'm going to talk about ...

this is section number nine. There's a picture of many people standing together. Then, where did we reach in the Jingang Jing?

Then, Subuddhi asked the Buddha, what do you want us to do?

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What do you want us to think? How are we supposed to live?

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Then the Buddha said, I'll tell you what you should do with your life.

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All the people here, you should take them to Nirvana.

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Then, in the Sanskrit, and in the Tibetan translation, Buddha made a new word, okay? He didn't say, you should take them to Nirvana. He said, you should Nirvana-size them.

He made a new word. Stanley was translating this book for me. He said, Geshe-la, I can't find Nirvana-size in the dictionary.

I said, yeah, that's because it's not in the dictionary.

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Buddha made a new word. You should Nirvana-size everybody. Means, bring them to Nirvana.

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But, Buddha didn't say everybody. He didn't say Nirvana-size everybody.

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Instead of saying everybody, he said a very strange thing. You should Nirvana-size all the people who born from an egg, and all the people who born from mother's womb, and all the bacteria.

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They are born from warm and wet place. Like, if you have some rice, and it gets very wet, and it's a summertime, and you leave it outside for three days, some green stuff grow on there. These are little creatures.

They are little people.

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So, Buddha said, even those born from the tiny, tiny people, and the super special people who are born by miracle.

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In Buddhism, we call it dzu te kye. dzu te kye. dzu te kye means born from miracle.

There are many examples. How was a Buddha born? His mother is hanging from a tree branch, like this.

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She's like, I feel a little strange. Hurting, here's something. Then, boop!

Buddha came out. So, they say very holy people birth doesn't hurt their mother.

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All of us, we really hurt our mother. First thing we did in this world, we hurt our mother. Then, you know, there's a famous Buddhist saint called Padmasambhava.

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Padmasambhava.

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It means born from lotus.

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So, his mother has a flower, a lotus flower. It open up. Boop!

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There's a little baby. Cool! This is much less expensive, and easy.

Then of course, example of Jesus.

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His mother didn't have sex, and he came out.

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If you like yoga, you know Yoga Sutra. Most famous book of yoga. The person who's wrote it, his name is Patanjali.

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His name has two parts. Bata and Anjali.

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Then, his mother was a great yoga teacher, and she prayed to have a child, so she can start a lineage to pass on the knowledge. So, those Hindu people, when they make an offering, they like to offer water in their hands.

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Then she's thinking, I would like to have a baby. Then, bop!

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Good translation. The baby come in the water. This offering water in your hand is called Anjali.

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Anjali. And bata means fell down.

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So, Patanjali. He's also born miracle birth. Then Buddha said, you should save those four kinds of people.

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You should take them to Nirvana. Born from egg, bacteria, or born from mother, or born by miracle.

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Instead of saying everybody. But, he didn't stop there. He said also, you should take them to Nirvana.

All the people, doesn't matter how they are thinking. Then in the world, there are three levels of thinking. 99.9999999% of people are thinking low way. Then, 0.0000001 is thinking higher way. So, what's the lower way?

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way.

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They are doing a lot of discrimination. Oh, he from Mexico.

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He from China.

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She's from Russia. She's from Guangzhou. Then divide ...

divide many divisions. I like coffee, I don't like tea. You know?

This too hot, this too cold. Then this is us. We are this level of mind.

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Then if you meditate a lot, like, I don't know, four or five hours every day, did somebody say, is the tea too hot?

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Is the weather too cold? Cool.

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Okay?

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Then nothing bother you much. You are not dividing things so much. That's called no discrimination.

So, lowest level of mental activity is called person who discriminate all the time.

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It's too hot in here.

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It's too cold in here. This tea is not so good. I like this, I like shimbaka coffee.

Okay? That's our level. Then if you meditate a lot, we call non-discriminator.

Yeah, okay, what you give me is okay.

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I don't mind. Then there's a higher one. It means deeper state of mind.

Like, you meditate eight hours per day. Then you're like this.

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People say, you want shimbaka? Is it too cold? Okay?

That's called ...

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in Buddhism, there's a joke from Abhidharmakosha.

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It's called the person who is not discriminator or non-discriminator. DUS SHES MED DUS SHES MED MED. Great.

She's going to speak Tibetan in three hours. So, these are the ... then Buddha said, in the Jingang Jing at this time, if you meet a person discriminating a lot, or if you meet the person who not discriminate a lot, or if you meet the person who is ...

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take all of them to Nirvana. Please take all of them to Nirvana. Instead of saying everybody, then Buddha didn't stop there.

He went deeper. Okay? Then there are three worlds in the universe.

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The universe is like a wedding cake with three layers. I don't know why I always think about cake. I love wedding.

People ask me ... they ask me, Maria and her husband, will you marry us? I said, yes, but in my mind I think, I hope they have a good cake.

They did have a good cake. Thank you. So, the universe is like a big wedding cake, and there's three worlds, three separate realms.

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We are living in the bottom one.

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This is called desire realm. They call kamadhatu, right? It means we have a lot of desire.

Then somebody asked Great Lama, what's it mean, desire realm? He said, this place we ... all of us live in, the lowest layer of the wedding cake, is called desire realm, because we're always thinking about two things.

Food and sex. Okay? I check on the internet, 60% of all internet activity is about sex.

The number one search word in the internet is sex.

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Then it's who we are. We like it, and we like food.

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Okay? We are all like that. That's why we are on the lowest level.

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The next level of the cake, you cannot see.

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It's a very high, and we cannot see it. It's called form realm, rupa datu.

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And those people who live there, which we cannot see, they're like super super rich, super powerful.

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Okay? They can ...

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like, if there's a star in the sky, they don't like the color. This star is a little too orange. They can ...

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blow out the star. Okay? If they don't like this planet, they're like ...

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super powerful. So, there are people like that.

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Then there are a very strange people on the top of ... third of the wedding cake. That's called formless realm, bodiless realm.

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And if I meditate this one all day, when I die, that seed creates a Michael who has no gross physical body. Okay?

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Then there's no ... you know bardo, right? Bardo.

Bardo is a spirit between die and reborn.

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Bardo means, if I die today in Taipei, but I'm going to reborn in his place, Guadalajara, then ...

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it takes some time to go from Taipei to Guadalajara.

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After death.

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And I need a temporary body, like a rental car. I will die, go to the rental car, I need a body to get to Guadalajara. That body is called bardo.

It lasts for 49 days maximum. The rental limit is 49 days. That's why we do prayer for dead people after 49 days.

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So, those people who are born to the third part of the cake, bodiless realm, they have no bardo.

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Can you guess why? No body, but they don't go anywhere. They're not going to be born in Guadalajara.

If they die on this stage, they will be born as a mind here.

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Okay?

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Okay?

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So, that's called bodiless realm.

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Why are we talking about this? Buddha said you have to take everybody to Nirvana. No matter where they are living on the wedding cake, in that desire realm, in the sexy body realm, powerful body realm.

We call it form realm, but it means body realm.

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Super body. Super body.

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Can throw away a star.

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Then the next level is no body realm. Then Buddha said you have to take all of them to Nirvana.

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Oh, Buddha, how can I take somebody to Nirvana? I don't even ... can't see them.

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He's like, I don't care, you have to do it.

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Okay? So, that's ... Buddha said take them all.

So, he mentioned now four plus three plus three ...

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he mentioned ten different kinds of people, and it covers all the people in the world. Born bacteria. Born from egg.

Born from mother's womb. Born from lotus.

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Their mind is normal mind. Their mind is very deep meditation.

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Or, their mind is unconscious meditation. Or, they are born in this realm, this world. Or, super body world.

Or, bodiless world. Ten choices.

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You have to help all of them.

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You have to take all of them to Nirvana.

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You want to go deeper? Of course, you're from Taiwan. Not the Americans.

You can go back to sleep. Three of the people he mentioned are the cause of three of the people he mentioned. If you meditate a lot in this ...

if you don't meditate much in this life, just normal mind, busy mind, you will come back to the busy mind world, which is the lowest cake. If you spend most of your day meditating, you will come back as super powerful, control planets like that. Then what's the third one?

If you do this meditation, okay? Just nothing. Then you will be born here.

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Reborn here.

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That's ... by the way, they call bodiless, but they are not bodiless because they still have chi.

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Chi. Very subtle. Very subtle.

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The name is bodiless, but it's not ...

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it's not correct. They just have pure chi. Okay?

Now, Kamalashila says, why Buddha gets so complicated? It's so much talking. Why don't he just say, bring everybody to Nirvana?

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Why does he say, this person this person, this person, this person, this person?

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Why he divides all people so many times? He said, oh ... Buddha's trying to teach us something, and it's very deep.

Then, if I tell Kay, can you try to bring everybody to Nirvana before tomorrow?

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Then you say, Geshe-la, what do you mean everybody? Am I just responsible for Taiwan or also Hong Kong?

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Japan?

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Sweden? You know, what's my region? What region?

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Can I say everybody? But I name each country's people. That's a hint.

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That's a hint.

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What kind of hint?

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Buddha wants to say all of these differences you see in people. Oh, this person from Russia. This person from Taiwan.

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You know, who divide that? Who divide that? Buddha say, you did.

Okay? It's not natural.

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Do I have to teach the Pentagon?

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No.

[Speaker 1]
Anybody who fall asleep in this talk, after the talk I will teach you the Pentagon for punishment. Okay?

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That division among people, who made it? Who made it?

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Oh, this is Chinese person. In English they say white person, yellow person, red person, brown person, black person.

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Who made this division?

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I'll tell you. There's a special planet, 3,000 light years from here. On that planet they don't have white people, black people, brown people, red people, yellow people.

Okay? They only have big left and big right.

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Geshe-la, what's that mean? Big left, big right.

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Every person in this world, their ear is a little bit different size, okay? Some people right ear is bigger, some people left ear bigger. But we don't care.

I don't say, Vivian, I love you because your left ear is bigger. So, so sexy. Bigger left ear, huh?

And Nick, I don't like your right ear, it's too small. Probably there's a world where big left ear people are high class, big right ear people are low class.

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Then you laugh. You're like, ha ha ha. But you are doing the same thing.

Oh, black color, white color, yellow color, red color.

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This one high, this one low.

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Buddha say, who made that? You made it. Okay?

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Now listen, this is very important. The person who wants to save everybody, take everybody to Nirvana, what do we call that person? Bodhisattva.

Okay? Bodhisattva. Okay?

So, if you want to be Bodhisattva, you have to have big love, you know? You cannot say, I will take the yellow people to Nirvana, but not the black people.

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That's not Bodhisattva mind. I believe in Taiwan, like in America, in the school, for the small children, the teacher will say, we have to respect everybody—Taiwan people, China people, Russia people, America people—we have to respect everybody.

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White, black, brown. We have to respect equal.

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But Buddha doesn't like that.

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Buddha says you cannot do it. If you already see big right ear, big left ear, it's already too late. If you think brown come from brown, white come from white, black come from black, already you are dividing.

It's too late. It's too late to love everybody.

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If you see those division—big right ear, big left ear—it's already too late.

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Only the Bodhisattva who saw kongshin can love everybody equal, because he doesn't see they are different.

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Why?

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Of course he see black, he see white, he see brown. But he understand coming from him. Okay?

Then how can you say, I will take this person to Nirvana, but I won't take this person to Nirvana.

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They are all coming from you. From that way, they are equal.

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So, what your school teacher said is backwards. Even though they are black and white and brown, you should treat them equal. Your school teacher already made mistake.

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Geshe-la, what should the school teacher say?

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You have to love all of them equal, because all of them, all the different ones, come from you. Only the person who understand every different kind of person come from them can love them equally.

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Okay?

[Speaker 1]
Alright, we finish the first thing.

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Alright, next one.

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Number eleven—so, number ten. Then, for number ten, you have to understand the word bodhisattva. And Kamalashila talks about the word bodhisattva.

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Then, bodhi means buddhahood. Okay? Become buddha.

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Sattva. In Chinese, I think you say busa, sa.

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Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Sattva, in Sanskrit, means courage, have courage. Then, he said there's two kinds of courage. Okay?

Some people say, I will do my best to take all of you to Nirvana. I will do my best. I will try my best.

Then, Buddha said, shut up!

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This is stupid. Bah! Feichang ben.

[Speaker 1]
Feichang ben.

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Just don't talk stupid, okay? I will do my best.

[Speaker 1]
I told Xiaoping—where are you?

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Yeah, I before the talk, I said, I need an orange juice. And I need a fresh one. And a squeeze.

[Speaker 1]
She's like, it's only ten minutes before the talk. It takes nine minutes to squeeze, I don't have one minute to find the guy. Then, she didn't tell Geshe Michael, I will do my best.

Why she help—why she my assistant?

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What did she say? Yeah, I'll do it. Okay?

[Speaker 1]
No problem. Yeah, I'll take care of it.

[Speaker 2]
Okay?

[Speaker 1]
So, Buddha said bodhisattva, courage, is not—courage doesn't mean I will do my best, say, I will do my best. Courage means, what the hell, I'll do it. Alright?

That's bodhisattva. Who is the two-and-a-half thousand people in the audience in the garden when Buddha taught Jingang Jing?

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You check the Jing.

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He doesn't say bodhisattva. What's he say?

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Big bodhisattva.

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Mahabodhisattva.

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Mahabodhisattva. Okay? Big bodhisattva.

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What's the difference between bodhisattva and mahabodhisattva? Here's the little bodhisattva.

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Okay Buddha, I will do my best. I will try real hard to bring everybody to Nirvana.

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Okay? Then, Mahabodhisattva.

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Buddha say, can you take everybody to Nirvana?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah man, I'll take care of it.

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I'll take care of it.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, no stress Lord Buddha. In English we say, I got it covered. I'll take care of it.

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Okay? I'll do it.

[Speaker 1]
Okay? So, in this part, Buddha said we have to be Mahabodhisattva. Then, we're going to do a meditation.

We're going to do a five-minute meditation. Between ...

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what's the difference?

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Bodhisattva and Mahabodhisattva.

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I will do my best.

[Speaker 1]
Okay?

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If your name is Penny, you come from Hong Kong, then during the meditation, or Kui, during the meditation, you check your mind. Okay?

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You check, are you Bodhisattva, or are you Mahabodhisattva?

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Bodhisattva, I will do my best to have a good program in Hong Kong.

[Speaker 1]
Mahabodhisattva? Oh, it's going to be cool. I took care of it.

Just me. Nobody helped me, I don't ... there's many bad English words I cannot use in the teaching.

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My teacher told me. I'll take care of it, man.

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I'm ... I take responsibility. Okay?

So, during this meditation, when we start the meditation, how do you feel about helping all the countries' people in the world? Does it feel very far away, and you are not alone?

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And there are many Buddhas going to help you.

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Or, do you feel ...

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I'll take ... I will do it. How strong is your courage?

Okay?

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Let's meditate. Let's do this meditation.

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How strong is your courage?

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Are you little Bodhisattva, or are you big Bodhisattva? Okay, here we go. Don't forget to buy this timer.

I'll show you later. Okay, here we go. Ready?

Is it more important to sit up straight, or is it more important to have chin mudra in the meditation? Which one more important?

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Sit straight.

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Turn off your cell phone.

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Okay?

[Speaker 1]
More important than straight. More important than chin mudra. If the telephone ring, it doesn't matter, you have chin mudra straight, your meditation is destroyed.

I don't want to hear one time today there's a Hello Kitty telephone ring. Okay, everybody turn off your cell phone. Here we go.

Five minute meditation. How strong is my decision to help all people, doesn't matter what they look like?

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Even the little people, called strong is my courage.

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Here we go. Five minutes.

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Keep your eyes closed. Three deep breaths.

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Count them from the out-breath first.

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Okay, you can open your eyes and stretch.

[Speaker 1]
Good for jet lag, Adam. Katie.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Alright, I'm going to go—we're supposed to take a break pretty soon. We'll take a break, not pretty soon.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, I want to talk about number eleven.

[Speaker 1]
There's a pen. Turn into a pen. Then Buddha said, if you want to do this big job, Mahabodhisattva job, there's one tool you need.

If you have that tool, you can bring everybody to Nirvana. If you don't have that tool, you cannot.

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What's the tool? Bi.

[Speaker 1]
Okay? Pen. It means kong shing.

Then Kamalashila starts a very interesting discussion.

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If I say those words to my Lama, he gets angry.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, Geshe Michael, is there some discussion not interesting in Kamalashila? Okay, everything is interesting. Then, in Buddhism in ancient times, in Kamalashila's time, this is late in the Tang Dynasty.

So, Kamalashila lived not long ... right Stanley? Not long after Xuanzang.

Eighty years after Xuanzang. That's why we don't have this book in Chinese ...

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yet. Yet.

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Because Xuanzang already reached the tower in Xian. He didn't bring this book. But at that time in India, there's a lot of argument about kong shing.

When did the arguments about kong shing begin? When Buddha said sabay kong, kongpoy so, sojir kong, kongju so.

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Then, immediately, students start to argue. What did he say?

[Speaker 1]
He said, pen is kong shing. I don't understand. Then, people start to misunderstand five minutes after shin jing.

Up to now. Then, in India at that time, people ... some people said, there's many kinds of kong shing.

Fifty percent kong shing.

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Seventy-five percent kong shing. And there's a hundred percent kong shing.

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Then, different people have different goals in their life.

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In DCI, we say five goals, right?

[Speaker 1]
First one, financial independence. I have enough money to do anything I want. I don't have to ask my husband, okay?

You know, do we have enough money to buy a car? Independence means, oh, I want a new car.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, buy it.

[Speaker 1]
Everyone would ... I would enjoy to have this kind of money.

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Second goal, beautiful partner. It means family partner and business partner.

[Speaker 1]
Third one, I like to have perfect health to do ballet when I'm 63, okay? Or sword play when he's ... he's doing.

Fourth one, in my mind I like to have perfect peace.

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Fifth one, then I would like to help the whole world.

[Speaker 1]
It's not fun to eat a delicious dinner if everyone else around you is starving. Okay? It's not enough to make yourself happy.

If everybody else is unhappy around you, it's difficult to enjoy your happiness.

[Speaker 2]
These are the five goals of everybody, all Buddhist people. Then in India, during late Tang Chao, in Kamalashila's time, even Kamalashila's teacher, Shantarakshita, they start to have a little bit strange idea.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, Geshe-la, the people who want to get rich, financial independent, they only need 50% kongshin.

[Speaker 2]
If you want inner peace, you can do with 75% kongshin. Then if you want to save all people, then you need 100% kongshin.

[Speaker 1]
Then Kamalashila said, no, that's crazy.

[Speaker 2]
You know?

[Speaker 1]
If you believe half the world come from seed, but half the world doesn't come from seed, you can't even get rich. Real estate has kongshin, but stock market doesn't have kongshin.

[Speaker 2]
Then you can't get rich. You must understand 100% kongshin. Everything comes from my seeds.

Stock market come from my seed, real estate come from my seed.

[Speaker 1]
How many investments don't come from your seed?

[Speaker 2]
How many investments don't come from your seed? Then Moscow here, I mean nobody's ...

[Speaker 1]
said Nizhny Novgorod, they said ... she went like this.

[Speaker 2]
Zero.

[Speaker 1]
Zero. Okay?

[Speaker 2]
This is kongshin.

[Speaker 1]
How many different investments don't come from your seed? She said ... okay?

Should be the Chinese people should ... okay? Zero.

[Speaker 2]
That zero is kongshin.

[Speaker 1]
Understand? So, in this part 11, Kamalashila is saying, don't think there's a 75% kongshin, 50% kongshin.

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Everything kongshin. Everything in your life is coming from your seeds.

[Speaker 1]
It's not like your wife is coming from your seed, but your kids are not coming from your seed. You are crazy. And this is lower school.

[Speaker 2]
This is lower school.

[Speaker 1]
We call mind-only school.

[Speaker 2]
Okay?

[Speaker 1]
They call mind-only school. Half the world comes from its side, half the world comes from my side. Or lower middle way school.

[Speaker 2]
Kamalashila said no.

[Speaker 1]
If you ...

[Speaker 2]
Buddha said, here, if you want to help other people, bring them to nirvana, you must understand kongshin 100% Very interesting in Buddhism. The person who saw kongshin first time directly for 20 minutes, they see kongshin the same way the Buddha sees kongshin. There's no higher kongshin, lower kongshin.

[Speaker 1]
In English we say, you either saw it or you didn't. You either saw it or you didn't.

[Speaker 2]
Many people come to me, Geshe-la, I think I saw kongshin. I say, if you think then you didn't. When you see it, you know.

It always goes together. Did you see kongshin?

[Speaker 1]
Yes. You don't say, did you see kongshin? I think so.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, that's not kongshin.

[Speaker 1]
Then I can say, I don't have to think about it. No, you didn't see. Because at that same time, you see yourself in the future as a Buddha.

[Speaker 2]
Oh Geshe-la, I saw purple light and I felt kind of happy. Is that kongshin? No.

[Speaker 1]
Okay? Alright, last thing before the break. Ultima cosa.

Cosa? Cosa. Cosa.

Ultima cosa.

[Speaker 2]
Last thing.

[Speaker 1]
Now, at the end of that sentence, Buddha says something very controversial. I don't know why I have to see a controversial teacher.

[Speaker 2]
Buddha said, after you bring everyone to Nirvana, after you Nirvana-cise everybody, nobody reached Nirvana.

[Speaker 1]
That's like the joke I told you yesterday from Mumbai. Pear was in the airplane.

[Speaker 2]
Pear and Takako, you were in the airplane.

[Speaker 1]
Just for you, I'll tell the joke again. Very fast. I was taught this joke by a nine-year-old in India.

[Speaker 2]
Geshe Michael, I have a joke. What's the joke? There's three people.

One's name, somebody. One's name, nobody. One's name, Mr. Crazy. Then they got a big fight. Very bad fight. Something very bad happened.

Then one of them called the police. What? Something very bad happened.

Police said, what happened? Oh, you won't believe it. What happened?

Somebody killed nobody. Then police said, are you crazy? Yes, how you know it's me?

[Speaker 1]
Why are we talking about this joke? It means Buddha said, if you bring those people to Nirvana, nobody comes to Nirvana.

[Speaker 2]
Then, what's that mean? Okay?

[Speaker 1]
It means you should learn a meditation where you sit very quiet, think about nothing.

[Speaker 2]
Look at the wall for three hours. Nobody meditating.

[Speaker 1]
Okay? No, that's stupid idea. You know that.

[Speaker 2]
What's it mean nobody reached Nirvana?

[Speaker 1]
To understand this me and K, we're going to do the husband and wife fight, okay?

[Speaker 2]
You stay there.

[Speaker 1]
This time you're the husband, okay? I'm the wife.

[Speaker 2]
Then I work all day.

[Speaker 1]
I'm so tired. Then I took the kids to school.

[Speaker 2]
Now, in Asia there's a new system.

[Speaker 1]
Before there was a division. The man will make the money.

[Speaker 2]
The woman will cook and raise the children. Now there's a new system.

[Speaker 1]
The woman cook, the woman raise the children, and the woman make all the money.

[Speaker 2]
And the husband watch internet TV.

[Speaker 1]
Then the woman in Asia getting tired of this new system.

[Speaker 2]
Come home. So tired.

[Speaker 1]
Brought the kids to the school. Went shopping for dinner, food. Work all day to make the money to take the kids to school and buy the food.

Then come home late because you have to go shopping and pick up the kids. Okay? You're hoping when you ...

[Speaker 2]
when you walk into your house, the husband will be there to support you.

[Speaker 1]
So, you open the door and you say ... and then the husband say ... do you remember?

[Speaker 2]
Where's the dinner?

[Speaker 1]
I was working.

[Speaker 2]
I was buying the food. I have to take the kids to school. Husband say ...

you are stupid.

[Speaker 1]
Okay?

[Speaker 2]
Now, understand most important thing. Please remember, at that time there are two husbands in the room.

[Speaker 1]
Okay?

[Speaker 2]
There are two husbands in the room. First one, not coming from your seed.

[Speaker 1]
Okay? First one's not coming from you. Okay?

He's the pen which is coming from the pen.

[Speaker 2]
Then there's a second husband behind the first husband. Who is this husband?

[Speaker 1]
Coming from your seeds.

[Speaker 2]
Who planted the seeds? It's always the same guy.

[Speaker 1]
It's called me. Okay? You have to plant your own seeds.

How did you plant the seed to have your husband call you stupid? Last week you told your kids, Mommy has to go to a meeting at work at eight o'clock. We are going to school half-hour earlier.

I want you ready. Seven o'clock. Clothes ready.

Even your shoes are tied. And you are standing at the door with your school books and you aren't ready. You are crazy, you are getting everything ready.

[Speaker 2]
Seven o'clock come, check your phone, you know, open the door to the kid's room. Mommy, Rita and Jeffrey on the van!

[Speaker 1]
They are still in their pajamas. Where's the shoe?

[Speaker 2]
Nobody knows.

[Speaker 1]
Then you're going to be late to your important meeting.

[Speaker 2]
Then you planted a seed.

[Speaker 1]
You are the stupidest kids in Taipei. You are the stupidest kids in Taipei.

[Speaker 2]
Those words touch your mind.

[Speaker 1]
Then they make ... they touch the mind.

[Speaker 2]
Then they impress. You can see on my hand a little mark.

[Speaker 1]
Within a few hours that mark become a karma seed. And that seed stay very quiet in your mind for one week.

[Speaker 2]
Then you open the door. Come home. Then the husband say, you are stupid.

Where did it come from? Yeah, seed Who planted it? Who planted it?

I did. When? Last week!

Remember with the kids? That husband who's coming from your seeds is the second husband in the room. So, now we have two husbands, right?

[Speaker 1]
Mister come from seed, and mister come from his own side. Okay?

[Speaker 2]
There's two husbands in the room. Now, question for you.

[Speaker 1]
Which one's yelling at you?

[Speaker 2]
The second one. Who come from your seeds? Okay?

[Speaker 1]
That's the second one. Big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big question. Good translation.

Which husband are you angry at? The first one. The first one.

[Speaker 2]
Why?

[Speaker 1]
You believe he decide to criticize you. If you understand the yelling husband come from you, who will you be angry at? Yeah, you'll go in the bathroom.

Close the door quietly.

[Speaker 2]
Stand in front of the mirror. You're so stupid.

[Speaker 1]
Okay? Why you plant a husband like that? Why you don't tell the kids that you love them, they are beautiful, you are so happy to have them?

What if they die today?

[Speaker 2]
The last word should be I love you. Why you so stupid? Okay, understand?

[Speaker 1]
Why are you talking about this? The husband you're angry at is always the husband who never existed, cannot exist, and will never exist. You cannot have a negative emotion without misunderstanding where that person comes from.

[Speaker 2]
If you understand where that person come from, it's not possible to blame them, and it's not possible to get angry at them.

[Speaker 1]
What's the word in Buddhism when you stop being angry forever? Nirvana. Nirvana.

Okay? Now, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. When you take someone to nirvana, you don't take husband number two ...

one?

[Speaker 2]
One to nirvana.

[Speaker 1]
Okay? Because that one doesn't exist. What did Buddha say in the Jingang Jing just now?

When you take people to nirvana, no one reach nirvana.

[Speaker 2]
Okay?

[Speaker 1]
That's the meaning.

[Speaker 2]
That's the meaning. No one who's not coming from you, you can take to nirvana.

[Speaker 1]
Comfortable?

[Speaker 2]
Okay?

[Speaker 1]
Alright. Okay, we have one more big thing to do. We have about half an hour.

I'm sorry to keep you late, but Kamalashila is waiting for 1,300 years.

[Speaker 2]
You can wait for half an hour. Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Now, next thing is very difficult.

[Speaker 2]
In the Jingang Jing, Buddha says those bodhisattvas, they should give things to other people.

[Speaker 1]
What they have, they should share with other people. Then, this mentioning giving is to represent the six perfections. Giving.

[Speaker 2]
Don't hurt people.

[Speaker 1]
Don't get angry. Be ... have fun when you're Buddhist.

Don't forget to meditate.

[Speaker 2]
Think about the pen. So, when Buddha mentioned giving, he means all six. Then he says, when the bodhisattva gives something to the other people, he or she should not stay in things.

[Speaker 1]
And if they do stay in things, we cannot call them a bodhisattva. Then, this is very confusing. Then of course, all of us, we want to be a bodhisattva.

We want people to call us bodhisattva. So, we want to know, what does Buddha mean when he says, don't stay in things? Then, tonight and this weekend, we are going to go deeply how to see kongshin directly.

And to understand that, you have to understand what are all the things in the world. There are changing things, like my income. Change a lot every day.

Okay? Then there's unchanging things, like space.

[Speaker 2]
Okay?

[Speaker 1]
And where is kongshin? How many changing things are there?

[Speaker 2]
Basically, three kinds of changing things. We will learn it this weekend.

[Speaker 1]
One is physical things.

[Speaker 2]
Okay?

[Speaker 1]
Second is mental. Third one is ideas. What's an example of an idea?

Michael.

[Speaker 2]
Michael is not this body.

[Speaker 1]
Michael is not this mind. Michael is an idea. Okay?

So, Buddha said, if Michael wants to be a bodhisattva, he cannot stay in physical things.

[Speaker 2]
He cannot stay in mental things, and he cannot stay in person.

[Speaker 1]
Then he ... then Kamalashila starts to explain one by one.

[Speaker 2]
What's it mean to stay in jang? What's it mean to stay in a physical thing? What's it mean to stay in a mental thing?

And if I'm doing it, how can I stop? Because I want to be bodhisattva. And Buddha said, if you stay in all those things, we cannot call you bodhisattva.

You want to go deeper? Why didn't Buddha say, if you stay in things, you're not a bodhisattva? He said, if you stay in things, we cannot call you bodhisattva.

In Buddhism, calling and coming out of mind is the same word. That's important. Michael also coming from seeds.

Because I come from seeds, I can become Buddha. If Michael come from Michael, Michael cannot become Buddha, because Michael cannot change. If Michael coming from Michael's seeds, then Michael can become Buddha.

Just plant good seed, then Michael will change.

[Speaker 1]
But if Michael come from Michael, if Michael come from Michael, then I cannot become Buddha.

[Speaker 2]
If Michael come from seeds, then I ... you know, it's easy. Just plant a Buddha seed.

[Speaker 1]
If you want shikwa, you have to plant shikwa jongtsu. If you want Buddha, you have to plant Buddha's jongtsu. Okay?

So, even Michael not coming this way.

[Speaker 2]
Michael coming from Michael. How do we know this?

[Speaker 1]
Then Kamalashila, he goes deep, deep, deep, deep, deep.

[Speaker 2]
Okay? I love it.

[Speaker 1]
Last two months, I forgot everything.

[Speaker 2]
I'm just reading Kamalashila every day.

[Speaker 1]
My lama got a little bit upset. You don't call me.

[Speaker 2]
You don't write to me.

[Speaker 1]
What's wrong? I said, Kamalashila. Then, what did Kamalashila say that's so interesting?

He gave a long explanation why Michael's not coming from Michael. You want to hear about it? I'm glad, because I worked really hard on this, and nobody else in the world wants to hear about it except Taiwan people, and China people, and some Mexico people.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, so here we go.

[Speaker 1]
Kamalashila gives three examples.

[Speaker 2]
I will finish in 17 minutes.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, ready?

[Speaker 2]
Difficult. In English, we say, put on your thinking hat.

[Speaker 1]
He gives three examples. Okay, number one. In Buddhism, we talk about liberation.

[Speaker 2]
You can think of it.

[Speaker 1]
Right now, we are in a jail. Why?

[Speaker 2]
In this jail, you have to get old.

[Speaker 1]
In this jail, you have to lose your family. In this jail, you have to lose your own life. In this jail, you have to lose everything you worked for in your whole life.

[Speaker 2]
Then, can we get out of this jail? Stay here.

[Speaker 1]
So, our life is like actors on the stage. We are moving through life, okay?

[Speaker 2]
We are going through life.

[Speaker 1]
So, K is the present time, and I am the past time. In the past, Geshe Michael was in the sansara jail. Then, he practiced, meditated, practiced, meditated, practiced, meditated, year after year, and then he came into the present time, and he reached nirvana, and he lead the jail.

So, let's say this happened later this year. I don't know. It didn't happen yet.

Let's say June 25th, 2016, Geshe Michael reached nirvana. Then, back in January 2016, Geshe Michael was in the jail of sansara.

[Speaker 2]
Then, he practiced, practiced, practiced, meditated.

[Speaker 1]
Then, finally in June, he reached nirvana.

[Speaker 2]
Then, Kamalashila asked a question. Listen, understand.

[Speaker 1]
What's a connection between the Geshe Michael who got out of the jail in June, and the Geshe Michael who's in the jail in January? Who connects those two things? Now, you have to understand in Buddhism, we say correctly that if two things are connected, they must both exist.

Yesterday, we talked about an elephant which is purple and has two heads. It doesn't exist.

[Speaker 2]
You cannot catch that elephant with a rope, and connect you and that elephant, okay?

[Speaker 1]
It's not possible. Why? He doesn't exist.

You cannot connect a thing which doesn't exist with a thing which does exist.

[Speaker 2]
It's not possible. In 2016 June, that Geshe Michael exists or not? Be careful, be careful, be careful.

This one's in the jail—sansara jail.

[Speaker 1]
This one is in nirvana. When Geshe Michael is in nirvana, on June 25th, 2016, does the January Geshe Michael exist or not? No!

If he exists—if that one exists in June, then Geshe Michael's in the jail and out of the jail at the same time.

[Speaker 2]
Okay? At 3 o'clock, the 2 o'clock Geshe Michael's finished.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, can you please buy a cappuccino for the 2 o'clock Geshe Michael?

[Speaker 2]
No, I'm sorry Geshe Michael, that one's gone. Okay, we know that. Agree?

Then you have a problem. Then there's no ... there's no connection between that Geshe Michael and this Geshe Michael.

Okay? Then, if you think carefully, there's no Geshe Michael.

[Speaker 1]
How can there be Geshe Michael without Geshe Michael who was born?

[Speaker 2]
If there's no continuum, how can there be Geshe Michael?

[Speaker 1]
That's the first question of Kamalashiva. Okay? And if you think about this question the wrong way, you are staying in things.

And then we cannot call you Bodhisattva. Okay? Understand?

[Speaker 2]
Okay, that's the first problem.

[Speaker 1]
You want some more problems? I'll be like your boss at work, I will give you extra problem. Then what about karma?

Geshe Michael, in January, he pushed somebody in the subway, then in ...

[Speaker 2]
and in June, somebody will kick him in the bottom, because karma always grows.

[Speaker 1]
Okay?

[Speaker 2]
So, in January, I pushed somebody, and in June, you know, somebody kicked me in the bottom, because karma grows.

[Speaker 1]
Kicking the bottom hurt more than push. Okay? Because karma always grows.

Now, in this question, Kamalashiva makes a new word in the Sanskrit. Nobody else in India, in Buddhism, used this word. How do I know that?

Wu Lao Tse and John Brady, they finished ... all the books from India are in the computer, but they finished it. Four thousand ...

[Speaker 2]
four thousand six hundred Buddhist books. It took him 25 years. They are all on the internet, free.

You can check. In this time, Kamalashiva uses a new word, and nobody else uses it.

[Speaker 1]
That Geshe Michael who pushed somebody on the subway, he calls him the doer, the doer. And the Geshe Michael in June, who got kicked in the butt by somebody, he calls him the eater, the eater. Okay?

He's eating the karma, which was made ... which was ... this guy made a cake.

[Speaker 2]
This guy ate the cake. Understand? So, Geshe Michael in June, is the eater of the karma.

[Speaker 1]
He has to eat the cake which was cooked by Geshe Michael in January. Okay? Clear?

Not clear. Why?

[Speaker 2]
Who connects them? How can there be connection? When that eater ...

when it's the time of the eater, the time of the cooker is finished. There's no cooker. At the time of the cooker, there's no eater.

[Speaker 1]
How can you connect something which exists with something which doesn't exist? How? Who connects the eater with the cooker?

Because the cooker is finished by the time of the eater. This is a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very deep question.

[Speaker 2]
Who made karma? Who made karma? System of karma.

Where's that come from?

[Speaker 1]
Okay? Got it? It's a beautiful question, because the purple ...

sorry, the person who made karma made kongshin.

[Speaker 2]
Who made these two systems?

[Speaker 1]
Okay? If you don't understand the answer, you are staying in things, and we cannot call you bodhisattva. Okay?

[Speaker 2]
Got it?

[Speaker 1]
That's a million lifetimes. We can spend another five minutes. Then he asked another question.

Here's a Geshe Michael, when he was six years old, and he started to go to school. And his mother dropped him off at the school, and she was young and strong and beautiful.

[Speaker 2]
Fifty years later, Geshe Michael seed a woman. Oh, mom! How does he recognize her?

How does he know this is mom? She got older, not so strong, not so beautiful, but face is basically the same.

[Speaker 1]
So, how can Geshe Michael recognize that mom?

[Speaker 2]
Oh, he has memory. Who put the memory?

[Speaker 1]
When she dropped you off at the school, you looked at her face, you remember, you saw her face.

[Speaker 2]
Forty years later, you see the face. Oh, I know this person. Okay, this is my mom.

Okay? How can you remember? That one is finished.

What's the connection? What connects them?

[Speaker 1]
When you have a memory, or when you recognize ... Kamalashila says two cases.

[Speaker 2]
When you remember your mother, or when you recognize your mother. How does it work? Because the one is finished already.

[Speaker 1]
Okay? He has a very cool answer.

[Speaker 2]
You can understand. It's not difficult. I like it.

[Speaker 1]
It fixes a lot of problems.

[Speaker 2]
By the way, I put the three pictures for you. Number 13, guy in the jail. Then, who made connection between him and the guy in the jail?

Because one of them is finished, or one of them hasn't come yet. Second example, why did I put a mailman?

[Speaker 1]
Then, I told you we have new language in the world. It's called DCIEs ... we got a ...

Stanley, what do we call it? DCIEs?

[Speaker 2]
DCIEs? DCIEs?

[Speaker 1]
DCICIAN? I don't know. Not disease.

Okay, and I have a new language for karma. I call it the postman. Why?

Me and Scott and Auri, we live in the smallest town in the world. How many people live there?

[Speaker 2]
I think three, I don't remember.

[Speaker 1]
We have one restaurant.

[Speaker 2]
It closed at two o'clock in the afternoon. Okay?

[Speaker 1]
It's worse than Taipei. Okay? Not Shanghai.

They're open all night, I think.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. Then, the post office ...

[Speaker 1]
there are two old ladies who work at the post office.

[Speaker 2]
They didn't even move for 20 years.

[Speaker 1]
If you go in there, I want to mail this letter. There ... to go to mail a letter in my town, if you write a letter to yourself, and you go like one minute to the post office and drop it off, it will take five days to come to your house.

[Speaker 2]
You can walk it in five minutes.

[Speaker 1]
Okay? Then suppose I write a letter to Geshe Michael.

[Speaker 2]
You are really stupid.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, I write a letter to Geshe Michael. You are very stupid.

[Speaker 2]
Then I give it to these two old ladies. I put my own address on it. Then it takes them two days to stamp it.

[Speaker 1]
It takes them two days to carry it to my house. Then, number twelve is it?

[Speaker 2]
Fourteen. The postman bring it to me. Here's your letter.

[Speaker 1]
I open it. What's it say? You are stupid.

Now, question. Should I get angry at the postman or should I get angry at Geshe Michael who sent the letter five days ago? Me!

[Speaker 2]
If my husband called me stupid when I come home, he's just a postman.

[Speaker 1]
He's just delivering my own letter.

[Speaker 2]
Who wrote the letter? I did.

[Speaker 1]
When? When I yell at the kids, you are most stupid kids in China.

[Speaker 2]
Okay? Understand?

[Speaker 1]
Okay, that's number fourteen.

[Speaker 2]
Number fifteen.

[Speaker 1]
How do you recognize your mother's face? The answer is in number sixteen, and with that we can finish our study of Kamalashila. The other pages we have to do next year, I'm sorry.

[Speaker 2]
But, sixteen is the most important.

[Speaker 1]
Listen. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Okay?

That Geshe Michael in January 2016 is like a caterpillar, okay? And the Geshe Michael in June, he's like butterfly. Mariposa.

Remember mariposa? Yeah, in Spanish, mariposa. Okay, he's like a butterfly.

Then you know the caterpillar, he will make a small house—in English we call it cocoon, cocoon—he will, I don't know, he puts it out of his mouth, you know, and he makes a little house, and he goes in, and he closes the house. How long does it take? I don't know, two weeks?

Two weeks later? Two or three weeks? Months.

Two or three months later, that cocoon opens, and the butterfly comes out. Now listen. Geshe Michael in June is butterfly.

Geshe Michael in January is the caterpillar, and the Geshe Michael who stretch from January to June is the cocoon. Okay? Then, we're almost there.

[Speaker 2]
We're almost ready to stop staying in things.

[Speaker 1]
We're almost ready to stop staying inside Michael. We are very close to understanding who makes Michael.

[Speaker 2]
If we understand who makes Michael, then you can call me a bodhisattva.

[Speaker 1]
The understander is a bodhisattva.

[Speaker 2]
Okay? Who made the cocoon? Who made karma?

Who made the law of karma?

[Speaker 1]
Here's the law of karma.

[Speaker 2]
Don't forget, we had three examples.

[Speaker 1]
That Geshe Michael was in the jail. This Geshe Michael is free. That Geshe Michael made the cake called karma.

He planted the seed. This Geshe Michael received the cake.

[Speaker 2]
He ate the cake.

[Speaker 1]
That Geshe Michael saw his mother for the first time.

[Speaker 2]
This Geshe Michael recognized the mother. Who connects them?

[Speaker 1]
Cocoon. Cocoon.

[Speaker 2]
Who made the cocoon? My seed. Okay?

My seed made the cocoon. Listen, my seeds make karma.

[Speaker 1]
Buddha's people ...

[Speaker 2]
we don't believe God made a karma. We don't believe even Buddha made a karma.

[Speaker 1]
Who invent this system that if you hurt somebody on the subway in January, you will get hurt in June?

[Speaker 2]
Who made this system? Who made the cocoon? Who connect them?

I did.

[Speaker 1]
How?

[Speaker 2]
From my seeds. Cool? Cool.

Cool.

[Speaker 1]
Understand?

[Speaker 2]
If you understand it, we can call you a bodhisattva. Okay, anyone who understand raise their hand, or almost understand. Come on, everybody raise your hand.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, I can call you a bodhisattva. I bow to bodhisattva.