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[ШАПКА ДЛЯ ЦИТИРОВАНИЯ] Курс: Xiaoping Zhou / Alison — Book 2: The Gemstone of True Intent (Panchen Lodru Leksang on the Vinaya Sutra) — Diamond Cutter Classics Урок: Занятие 12 («Session 13» по плейлисту) — очная встреча в Китае: разбор 12 обетов средней монахини (шести первичных и шести вторичных) и раздела о трёх видах нравственности по Абхидхармакоше; дата по плейлисту 14.12.2024 Ведёт: Геше Майкл Роуч (очно); перевод на китайский и чтение текста — Элисон Сяопин Джоу; синхронный перевод для аудитории Дата и место: 14 декабря 2024; университет в Китае (в стенограмме звучит как «Jin University», классы CSP/EMBA — ASR, needs-source) Источник: YouTube, канал Diamond Cutter Classics, плейлист PL1KVm5jgTljRBpdDsc-GnPM-ab-9EEPLy; расшифровка TurboScribe ================================================================ [Speaker 1] In this video, I'm going to show you how to make a paper airplane. Let it in, just let the love, love, love begin. Wants to love everybody, everybody wants to be loved. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Everybody, everybody wants to be loved. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, everybody wants to love. Everybody wants to love. Everybody wants to love. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Everybody feels the love. Everybody steals the love. Everybody heals the pain. Okay, please go back to your seats. [Speaker 2] Our staff is going to call CSP students. This is a live lecture, so please put your phones outside of the classroom. [Speaker 1] I don't know, but she hasn't written. Yeah, it doesn't, maybe Xiaoping. Xiaoping first, me second. Or put Xiaoping here. You have to plug this in if you do a homework. Okay. You could e-mail me your homework if you want. If you want. He has, this guy. We have a translator. If you need a translator, please get one from Dongdong and Sonia. [Speaker 2] Our staff is sending it out. If you need one, you can get a translator. Chinese is too quiet. [Speaker 1] Maybe we can just start without looking at it first. Okay. You want to put it? Yeah. Oh, okay. Thank you. So today will be simultaneous translation. So is the translation okay? Can you hear me? Is the sound okay? Anyone else have any questions? If you think the volume is too low, you can adjust it. Is it okay now? Is it okay? Sorry, they are still fixing the translation machine. Is it okay now? Okay. Is it okay now? If it doesn't work, you can ask the translator to sit in the back. In the back corner, see if the sound is better. Is it okay now? Okay. Is it okay now? Okay, good. So now we are going to do the homework. And today's homework is just one big question. In the previous class, we talked about the agreements that the intermediate nun agrees to honor, or the meaning, the things they agree to give up. So we covered the six primary ones. Wait, can I introduce? Yes, please. Okay. We're having a translation class. And we have three classes per week, every week, for the whole year. And wherever we are, we have our class. And Juan Haso, who is the head of the Peachtree World News, he helps us to put it on. And we have 12 great translators. And fortunately, we have good support for them from many friends, and thank you for that. And each one is translating a different period of history in the last two and a half thousand years. So each one is learning a different language. So Xiaoping is learning one of the oldest books. And she's been translating Vinaya, which means the rules of good behavior. And there are, I think, seven or eight different sets of rules of good behavior. For example, lifetime layman vow. Or you could be a novice monk or nun, beginner monk, beginner nun. You can be a medium nun. You can be an advanced nun. You can be advanced monk. Later you can take bodhisattva vows in Nara, Japan. Understand? They know about it. Oh, they know. And later you can take diamond wave vows. Okay? So she's covering the vows for intermediate nun. Okay? Not baby nun and not senior nun, medium nun. And they have to keep 12 things, but here's the first six. Okay. You ready? Thank you. So out of the 12 vows today, we just want to review the six primary vows or six primary things that the intermediate nun agrees to give up or agree to honor. Okay. So anybody remember? Who listened to the last class? And do you remember any of the vows? I also listened to the last class. [Speaker 2] Okay. Anybody? Okay. Any clue? Okay. [Speaker 1] First one, the clue is if I give you a clue and you still couldn't answer, every clue you're giving me $100. No, that's just for standing. [Speaker 2] Okay. [Speaker 1] So you can buy your wife new things. First one, the clue is walk. Walking. Walk, walking. No. Yeah, you never walk along part of a path or road more than half mile long. [Speaker 2] Okay. Second one, the clue is swimming. [Speaker 1] Swimming. That's just a part of it. No. No, never swim from one side to the far side of some body of water. Like a lake or a stream. Yeah. Cannot cross any water, any long distance swimming. Maybe dangerous for the nun. [Speaker 2] Okay. Third one, it's about touch. [Speaker 1] Never touch what? Never touch credit card. No, it's about never touch the body of a male who is not a close relative with any part of your own body. Okay, so the third one is never touch the body of a male who is not a close relative with any part of your own. Okay, third one? That is the third one. Oh no, fourth one. No, it's about sit, sit. Yeah, never sit together alone with this kind of male. Who is not your close relative. Yeah, meaning the intermediate nun cannot sit alone with a male who is not their close relative. Okay. Oh, sorry. Fifth one, you didn't see anything. What's the fifth one? What's the fifth one? Somebody sent. They saw my note. Yeah, but clue is go between. Message. When you're in the high school, you're too shy to talk to the boy directly. So you tell your girlfriend, can you tell that boy I like him? And that girlfriend is called go between. So monk or nun is not allowed to do this. Okay. We are specifically, we are not allowed. Yeah, so never act as a go between, relaying messages between a male and a female. Fifth one? By the way, these are not for everybody. These are just for nun. Oh, yeah. So don't worry about it. Yeah, this is for nun. [Speaker 2] Don't worry. Sixth one. [Speaker 1] It's about hiding or secret. Keep secret. No, this is about never hide something wrong you have done. Don't keep your secret. If you tell somebody you did a bad thing, the seed is almost finished. If you don't tell anybody, it will stay strong. The seed will stay strong. Therefore, you should buy a dog. [Speaker 2] Dog. Dog. Okay. [Speaker 1] Yesterday. No, they, by the way, they have to be able to understand you. Okay. Three vocabulary. First one. Ngo kya. Difficult word. Very difficult word. Roxanne must know. Nobody knows. Okay. Your duty. Duty. No. [Speaker 2] Oh, sorry. [Speaker 1] Ngo kya means specific. Specific? Personal specific. Like these six are ngo kya for intermediate nun. Okay. Specific. Okay. They are their own. Kya means their ... It can mean your good deeds, but it also means your part, or your duty. Like that. Like your duty. Your personal duty. Ngo kya means your personal duty to keep these vows. Ngo kya. Difficult word. So, ngo kya means your personal duty, but here ditur meaning means personal specific. Yeah. Connected to nun, or connected to monk. Each one has ngo kya. Okay, okay. Second one. Pancha. Yes. The thing to be given up. Future participle. Yeah. In the future tense. It's both. Both. Like, that is not to be done. In English we also have, that is not to be done. It means future tense, but it means now. Okay. Second one. Eliminate. Yeah, give up. He knows the news. Can I also say giving up, right? Yup. Okay, eliminate. Okay. Yay. Okay. The object is pancha. The verb is bhogwa. Okay? Yeah. Alright. Are you a little, right? Where did you get that? Did I do the wrong one? Let me see. That's okay. Okay, that's okay. You translated this. Hang on. That must be up here. That's okay. Okay, that's okay. You can do that. Oh, Geshe-la, I think it's because when I download the file from you, it doesn't show this color. Okay. So I didn't know it was called pancha. We can do it. That's okay. [Speaker 2] Oh, okay. Yeah, the one you sent this morning is this color. [Speaker 1] Okay. [Speaker 2] Sorry. [Speaker 1] Is it correct? Hang on. Okay. Yeah, you're here. Okay. That's okay. That's okay. Okay. Excuse me. Oh, thank you for making the screen larger. Could you make it a little larger, please? Oh, okay. Slowly. Okay. Okay. Geshe-la. Hang on. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hm-mm. Okay. This morning we had six vows, like don't swim across a lake or something. Those are the primary vows for the intermediate nun. She's not older nun, and she's not younger nun. She's in the middle. Then she has actually twelve vows. So this morning we did six, and now we're going to do the second group of six. By the way, some of these vows are personal. They have to do with sex, for example. And it's a little bit feel shy to read it, but this is to keep the monks and nuns celibate, to make sure they save that energy, and they don't have sex with another person. So there are many vows about how to control yourself. Okay, here we go. Je Tsongkapa means like secondary or corollary. Okay, it literally means harmonious, right? Harmony, tumba. Je Tsongkapa means what? Je means things, Dharma. Dharma. Je Druk means six items, six different items. Okay. Kangshena means what? What are they? Yeah, you told us the main vows for medium nun. What are the secondary vows for medium nun? Usually the secondary vows are not as serious. If she breaks them, the karma is less, okay? These are like second important group, okay? First one. Zesungwa is the past tense of zimba, and it's talking about ser. Go? Yeah, yeah, don't touch money, okay? A nun and a monk is not allowed to touch money. Okay, forget keeping money. You're not allowed to touch it. You're not allowed to touch money, okay? Real monk, real nun, not allowed to touch money, okay? In the old days, they don't have cash. They don't have alipay. They just have gold. So the vows don't touch gold, okay? First one. Should we say gold or money here? I would say gold. Gold, okay. Okay, don't touch. It literally means don't keep gold, okay? My teacher won't touch money. He make me do it. You count the money. Okay. Dome is a difficult word. It means a female's sexual organ, okay? Between the legs, okay? [Speaker 2] Dome. [Speaker 1] This dome has a meaning, okay? Buni means the hair between the legs. The hair of a woman between the legs. That nun is not allowed to shave it. Drek means to shave the hair, okay? Because it's more, it increase her desire. She will have more thinking about it. Like that, okay? Not allowed to shave it. That's the embarrassing one. You're catching a cold. No, president can't catch a cold. I caught a cold this morning. Sorry. Sa you know. Earth. Koa means to dig. Dig the earth. And a real monk, real nun, not allowed to dig in the earth. Like we are not allowed to plant. Because... You will hurt the worms. You will kill those worms. And you will kill others. We are not allowed to dig. Okay. Second. This next one is very interesting. [Speaker 2] Tsa means... [Speaker 1] By the way, here is Mrs. Bell. She should have a V. [Speaker 2] No, no. [Speaker 1] Tsa means grass or green plants. Living plants. Living plants. This is not allowed to... Chupa. Dorje nye. To cut. Not allowed to cut living plants. The nun is supposed to not cut living plants. Do you know why? It's the home of the... Don't want to talk. You're destroying the home of the small creatures. Animals and insects both. Okay. This is very interesting vow for pollution. Air pollution, water pollution, you know. I think if this vow is made nowadays, they will say, you're not allowed to drive a gasoline car. You have to drive a... Xiaomi? Nice Xiaomi electric car. Okay. Nun should drive Xiaomi car. Okay. Like men. But don't touch gold. But I like this vow. Now, $100. Those handsome guys. The other handsome guys. What was the famous example? Somebody broke this vow. Yeah. There's a famous story. A monk was staying in a retreat. Probably he's in the IR retreat group. And then every day he has to go out to get water. And there's a plant blocking the door of the cave. And he's bald. He shaved his hair. So every time he go outside, the branch scratched his head. Then he's like... Then he said, but I have vow, I cannot cut it. Then he waited for one week. Then finally it scratched, big scratch. Then he said, this vow is really stupid. Then he just cut it. And because of that karma, he was born as a sea animal with a hundred heads. He was born as a sea dragon with a hundred heads. Each one is cut open. And he has to live like that. Now the important thing is, it's not that he broke the vow. It's that he said, this goddamn vow is so stupid. Then indirectly he's criticizing Buddha. So you can say, look, this vow is not for me. I'm not a nun. I hope the nuns can keep it good. It's not for me. I'm not attracted to those vows. That's okay. That's not a bad karma. But if you say, God, that's stupid vow. Then it's a very bad karma. Geshe-la, that means every time we have Vinaya class, we need to remind the audience. When we talk about vows, they are aware. Not to think the vows are stupid. Well, you can say, this is not for me. And this is not mine. I don't want to live this life. Mostly this is for people who are doing a lot of retreat. Like who decide to spend their whole life in retreat or something. But not for normal people. It's okay. You don't have to do that. You can reach Buddhahood without monk's vow. You can reach Buddhahood. Okay? Dynamically. Okay. Okay, we got four extra vows. Number five, jin nal ma che tsa mi jang. Jin lap. Jin lap. Blessing. Jin lap means blessing. Then, monk or nun is not allowed to keep food in the house. Okay? We have to go to the city and we have to beg for food. The name for monk in Sanskrit is bhikshu. Bhikshu means the person who beg for their food. Beggar. Okay? Homeless. Okay? They are the original homeless people. Then, it means they have to ask for food from other people. They are not allowed to buy food. They are not allowed to keep food. Okay? Because it distracts them in their meditation. What am I going to have for breakfast? By the way, I was doing business in Sri Lanka and my friend, businessman, he knows I am a monk. Then he said, Geshe-la, you never had a chance to go ask for food. Then I said, no, I never. In America, you will starve. There is nobody going to give you food. So, I said, he said, you want to go with the monks? And he arranged for me to go with the monks. You want to know the good part or the bad part? The good part is they give you a bowl. It's this big. Okay? That's the good part. The bad part is people throw food in the bowl random. Like, here is the rice and then here is the soup. Then last one, I remember the lady, she goes, oh, you Western woman. She took ice cream cone and put it on top of the rice and vegetable. She put ice cream cone. Then you have to eat the ice cream first. It's very funny. Then I told my friend, I think I like the American monks. Okay, next last one. SONG CHOG CHEN PA SA MIN CHA SONG CHOG. You know, CHOG means the collection of things. And SOG is the verb. So, it means you're not allowed to store food. You're not allowed to keep food in your house. The last one, number five. If you do keep food, you have to bless it. There's a special prayer. I'm doing retreat. There's nobody to bring me food. I ask Buddha permission to keep food in my house for one week or two weeks. Then that food is called prayer food. Then that food is, you can eat it. Okay. So, number five means if nobody did the prayer on the food, you cannot eat it. Then some teacher, they love to do the prayer on the food. My friend, he's assistant to a big, big teacher. And that teacher love to do the prayer on the food. So, they took a flight from, I don't know, Asia to Germany. And they offered the food to the teacher. And he said, he told the assistant, we have to do the prayer. Then he start. SANG NYE CHEN NAM SONG KYA'I CHO NAM LA BYANG CHUB PA DANG NI BSKYAB TSUL KHRIB DRAG GI DZIN ZANG GI MA'I ZIN ZANG GI DRANG LAM PHEN YIN ZANG GYI And then he prayed, prayed, prayed, prayed. He prayed for like one hour. Then the stewardess came. Now I'm sorry, we have to clean up the dishes. we are landing. Then he didn't get his lunch. They just get the prayer. Then he don't like this teacher. He said, I'm not flying with him again. That's the number five. Number six is, generally you're not allowed to eat food which is stored in your house. You cannot hide some yo-towel under your bed or something. How do I know about that? These are called the secondary vows for the medium nun. Jey ten chun drukpo. Dewa shepa dak tu kak. Let's read that last line. Dewa shepa. Dewa shepa dak tu kak. In Sanskrit, what's dewa shepa? You have said that. Shepa is past tense up to go. Gata, gata. And what's the first part? One, one, two, please. Sugata. Sugata. Sugata in Sanskrit. Sugata. He kak, go. What's that mean? No, he said you cannot do. He said you cannot do. It's pretty hard in here. Can you guys make a... No, she's sick. We keep it. Dak tu kak means... Dak tu means always. Buddha said no... Prohibited? Yeah. Keep it all the time. Dak tu. Okay. All right. Any more? You got any more for me? Are they not immobile? Are they not what you want? What you plan for today? No, we're okay. Okay. Yeah. Should I read or ask? Ask some poor victim to read. Okay, okay. In the translation class, we ask the student to read also. Tim, please. Tim. Okay, here we go. [Speaker 2] kona re, kyab dir so-sor tarpe dompe yewa chepe se, shen sum la phama nini kyi yewa che ne, nyen le la de tar mi chepe gyu sen chi yin che na. [Speaker 1] Nice. Nice pronunciation. Tim, if it comes at the end of the sentence, what is she na? [Speaker 2] Everything before it is someone else. [Speaker 1] Yeah. [Speaker 2] It's like a quote. And if someone were to say, or if we were to say. [Speaker 1] Yeah, so a lot of these books are written in debate style. So the other guy will ask a question. Tough question. Then we have to answer it. Okay. Then that will always end with she na. She na means, suppose some guy want to fight with us. Okay, she na. Then everything before. Tim's going to translate. kona re. [Speaker 2] Somebody says. [Speaker 1] Yeah, that's the other guy. He has a question. Somebody comes. In the book, somebody comes. I have a question. I have a question. Okay, what's your question? kham dir. And by the way, heavy prenasal. Kham dir. [Speaker 2] Kham dir. [Speaker 1] And I am prenasal for no good reason. Kham dir. [Speaker 2] At that time? [Speaker 1] Yeah, at this point. At this point. [Speaker 2] Okay. [Speaker 1] At this point. What point? We are teaching intermediate nuns vow. Okay. Later we will do full nun. Later we will do full monk. Okay. Right now we're focusing on the twelve vows of the medium nun. Okay. Kham dir. Sosa tharpe dompa. [Speaker 2] The vows of individual freedom. [Speaker 1] Yeah, you are dividing all of the classical Buddhist vows. Okay. yewa chepay tse. At that time. With the other three sets of vows, which means full monk and nun. Intermediate. Sorry, full monk and nun. Namaste monk and nun. And you can say left home life. Or you can say one day vow. Okay. Something like that. Sorry. In the three higher vows, you divided them into pa and ma. [Speaker 2] Into male and female. [Speaker 1] Yeah, you divided into male and female. By the way, the carving here had a mistake. They connect pa and ma and they make pam, which is a very normal, benign word. So this mistake is very delicate. Okay. This carving mistake is very difficult. You need grandpa to tell you they made a carving mistake. Okay. Otherwise this sentence doesn't make sense. Okay. Pa ma. Male and female. Ni ni. Two? [Speaker 2] Of the two that we divided, there's two. Of the two, there's two types. [Speaker 1] So ni ni means two each. Each of the sets of vows. You talked about three kinds of vows so far. And you split them, you split each of them, ni ni, into two groups each. Male and female. Okay. yewa che ne. But when you got to nye ne, when you got to the one day vow. Okay. When you got to the one day vow. [Speaker 2] Why didn't you make the same division? [Speaker 1] Yeah, why didn't you divide into male and female? Anybody have a guess? So monk, monk. Full vows, we divide monk and female. Medium vows, we divide monk and female. Starting monk's vows, male and female. But one day vow, we don't divide male and female. Why? It's shorter period of time. Too short. It's too short. It's only one day. It's only 24 hours. Okay. Here we go. Who's going to read, Xiaoping? [Speaker 2] Your neighbor. Adiropa already took it. Is that day? [Speaker 1] Day. [Speaker 2] day gyu tsen yu de nyen ne. Good. Nyen ne. [Speaker 1] Nyen ne. [Speaker 2] kyi dompa de shen nam le wa. gyun tungway. [Speaker 1] Good. [Speaker 2] gyu tsen. gyu tsen. kyi yinpe ye che. [Speaker 1] yinpe ye che. gyu tsen. Anybody? There's a reason. There's a reason for that. Reason for what? Why you didn't divide the one day vow into male and female. day gyu tsen yu de. There is a reason. What's the reason? Nyen ne kyi dompa. The one day vow is shen nam le. Comparative. Van. Van the other ones. It's tung. Shorter. Too short. Much shorter. Okay. Monks nun vow, whole lar. One day vow, one day. One day. Okay. So, therefore, that's the reason. gyu tsen. Okay? Because of that reason. gyu tsen kyi. Okay? Got it? The gyun is an interesting word. It means the flow. The flow is shorter. It's only 24-hour flow. Okay? What's the Sanskrit for gyun or gyu? Tantra. Tantra. It means flow. Okay? The ancient word for diamond ring means flow. Flow. Okay? That you have to study. Okay. Who's going to read? You feel alright? You want to keep going? Okay. Juan, please. [Speaker 2] Okay. Yeah, that's a mistake. [Speaker 1] Okay, sorry. That should be ... Sorry. Should be like that. dik chen. [Speaker 2] dik chen le le Should I keep going? [Speaker 1] Yep. [Speaker 2] dik chen le nyen nge la pa ma nyi su ma che wa ni du tungway so che sungpe che Yeah, and then you have to clap. [Speaker 1] che sungpe che You have to make the face also. Okay. shen nam means other vows. Other than the one day vow. They are gyun tungwa. [Speaker 2] They are shorter period of time. [Speaker 1] Yeah, good. They are shorter period of time. Why? They are nyen chik. [Speaker 2] One day. [Speaker 1] Nice, nice. When you say nyen shak it makes it clear 24 hours. Okay. nyen shak chik ta means limit and chen means possessing. Possessing. They have a limit. They have a one day expiration date. Okay. After 24 hours they finish. By the way, you can take them again the next minute. I know people who took one day vow their whole life over and over again. A lot of medicine buddha practitioners do that. [Speaker 2] ta chen gyi donpa They bow or they... [Speaker 1] Yeah, nice. They are a vow that is finished in one day. 24 hours. Then he quotes dik chen. Say dik chen. Say tika. Now if you want to talk like an Indian I told you many times. Curl the tongue. Then you can talk like Indian. Okay. You can try. Please try. What do you say Mr. Rose? I will not sell the diamond for this money. No. Okay. This is a typical Indian tongue. So, dik chen. Tika. Tika means commentary. Ancient word for commentary. In modern Hindi it means okay. Tika. But you have to shake your head. Tika. Can you take me to New Delhi? Tika. Is your taxi cab working? Tika, tika. Then after two minutes it breaks. Okay. Dik chen. Nye ne means one day vow. Pa ma nye. [Speaker 2] Both male and female? [Speaker 1] Yeah, both. Ma chewa. Ma yewa. [Speaker 2] Are not different? [Speaker 1] Yeah, are not divided. They are not divided into two. Because... du tung. [Speaker 2] The length of time? Yeah. The shortest of the time. [Speaker 1] Yeah, thank you. This lady have a big company in her family and she's serving tea to me and everybody else. I think she's cool. Must be a nice person. [Speaker 2] I don't know. Okay. [Speaker 1] I'm kind of amazed. That's very cool thing about Chinese people. Okay. American will not do that. Okay. du tung we so. She sung be ye che. Because quotation from the book. And this author, he likes to quote dik chen. Dik chen is an ancient commentary by Gendun Duk. Okay, Gendun Duk. He was the baby student of Tsongkhapa. At the end of Tsongkhapa's life, he was one of the last students to come. Okay. All right. That's it. Okay, now you have to look at my... I put it. You can put it. You got it already. Oh, how do you do that? Hmm. Now he's checking all my bank account also. Okay, I trust Ivan. Okay. Who's going to read next? Stanley? Make your husband... I mean, make him do some work. Okay. Der yang sen ki... Chang sen. Chang sen ki su chun ke len kyang. De dong pa ke mit len de. Dong pa la ge juk. Jey juk. Rik ki go ne ye na. Nice. So ta ki dong pa. Sak me ki de. Sam den ki de. Tang sun yuk pe chud. Nice. Very nice reading. This is a controversial sentence. By the way, so Xiaoping spent six or seven years translating a basic Vinaya text. And she finished. And that book should come out this year, okay? Twenty-five. Yeah, yeah. This next year. And then she finished it. It was difficult. And now, I said, okay, now you're ready for the... In English we say the grandpa, the ye ye agong of all Vinaya. And this author lived about 500 years ago. And he's unbelievable. Unbelievable. And very difficult. But he's the best of the best. So we took his book, okay? And now he's going... He's like a super geshe, okay? And he always has interesting debate. And we can learn a lot from his debate, okay? So here's the debate. BYANG SEMS KYI TSUL KHRIMS BYANG CHUB SEMS PA Stanley. BYANG CHUB SEMS PA BYANG CHUB SEMS PA Yeah, bodhisattva. TSUL KHRIMS Morality, okay? SKYE LEN SKYE LEN means you can agree to keep... SKYE LEN means take with your mouth. You can agree to keep it. What? Bodhisattva's morality. But, KYANG KYANG is a big word in debate. KYANG But, DE SDONG PA SKYE MI LEN I think he's saying, I don't agree that's... I don't agree that's this vow. I don't agree that is this vow. Okay. Can you say the bodhisattva vows are not vows? Cannot say. Can you say the bodhisattva vows are not this vow? Yes. Now we're talking about monk and nuns. We're not talking about bodhisattva vows. So he says, you can talk about bodhisattva vows, but they are not vows today in this class. They are not vows today in this class. This class is Vinaya. Okay, got it? Or this class is Abhidharma system. [Speaker 2] Okay. [Speaker 1] Now, what's that mean? SKYE MI LEN DE SDONG PA LA What's a SDONG PA? SDONG PA means vow. SDONG PA means vow. DE GYUR RIGGY GONE Very difficult expression. DE GYUR RIGGY GONE means... DE GYUR RIGGY GONE means if you stick to the literal meaning of the word. Okay. SDONG PA means... SDONG PA, what's the literal meaning of the word vow? SAMAYA in Sanskrit. In Sanskrit, SAMAYA. What's the meaning of that? It means to control yourself. And it means to tie somebody up. I don't know. Your kid is being crazy. Like he wants to eat some poison or something. Then you tie him. That's called SDONG PA. Like crazy person, they have this special suit. Tie the arms here. That's called SDONG PA. Vow in Buddhism is called crazy person suit. Seriously. Seriously. So he says... Now the word self-control, SDONG PA. The word control, SDONG PA. DE GYUR RIGGY GONE, in general, that word can be divided into three types. In general, all moral restraint, all controlling yourself, has only three kinds. There are only three kinds. Classically, in Abhidhamma. In Abhidhamma. Number one. SO SO THAR PA'I DONG MA. [Speaker 2] Pratyamoksha. [Speaker 1] These eight sets of vows. Eight sets of vows. Is the first one. Vinaya. Monks and nuns system. But we also have two other kinds. This is very interesting. SAKMEGGI DONG MA. Yeah. Pure. And then, SAMBDENG GI DONG MA. Meditation vow. So there are three kinds of morality. Okay? Three basic kinds of morality. Number one. You took monk or nun's vow. Okay? Then you control yourself. That's called crazy person's suit. Okay. SAMBDENG is easy. Okay. When you are in deep in meditation, you don't need these vows. Because you are sitting on your ass. In the room. You are not trying to kill somebody, steal something. You cannot lie. You are not talking. Pratyamoksha vow is physical. Pratyamoksha vow is physical. Bodhisattva vow. Tantra vow. Tantra vow include mental. Monks and nuns, the vow is physical or verbal? It's not mental. Okay. So he said, SAMBDENG means, if you are deep in meditation, you are protected from doing bad deeds. Verbally and physically. Okay. If you are deep in meditation, you cannot lie to someone. You cannot hit somebody. You are sitting in your house in meditation. Okay. So that's called SAMBDENG GYI DONG BAR. If you are deep in meditation, you are protected automatically by the meditation. It's very interesting. Some monks and nuns, they try to meditate as many hours as possible. Every day. So they can avoid lying, cheating, killing. Alright. Now, SAKME GYI DONG BAR, the one in the middle. Pure? It's like Vimala. Yeah. It's like Amala. That means, you are already close to Buddhahood. And you're not gonna kill somebody. You're not gonna lie to somebody. SAKME means, you are pure person. It's mainly only Buddha. Buddha is pure. Even if Buddha is not in meditation, he or she cannot lie, or they cannot kill people like that. Okay. They have super self-control. So that really, in the Abhidharma system, there's only three kinds of morality. Number one, the eight vows of Pratimoksha. Okay. Number two, you're almost a Buddha or you're a Buddha and you can't do bad things. Number three, you, deep in meditation, you don't have time. to lie to somebody. Okay. Alright. Now, don't forget this debate. The guy is making a debate. He started this sentence. What did he say? Bodhisattva vows are not morality. Bodhisattva vows are not morality. Then we say, why you say that? That's crazy talk. He said, it does not fit into the three types of classical morality. It's not the eight Pratimoksha vows. It's not for Buddhas. It's for Bodhisattva. And it's not only for people in deep meditation. Therefore, Bodhisattva vows don't fit in the Vinaya system. They are not, they are not a monk or nun vow. They are something else. Actually, they are something higher. They are something higher. They are not normal monk or nun vow. They are higher. Okay. They are higher. Okay. Very interesting debate. Okay. Okay. Then, he proves his idea, because he quotes, he quotes Abhidharmakosha. Nowadays we have to say, Abhidharmakosha. Because now we have another Abhidharma friend called, Samuccaya. We are studying two Abhidharma, two different Abhidharma systems. Alright, who's going to read Xiaoping? Okay. By the way, we have five minutes, and just relax. Enjoy. Lunch is coming. Rosanna? Rosanna? Yay! Thank you. Okay. So, dzö means ancient Abhidharma book, two thousand years ago. Okay. And he's trying to prove there's three kinds of morality. He's trying to prove it. Then he quotes Abhidharmakosha. This is one of the oldest Buddhist books, except for the sutras. After the sutras, this is one of the oldest. Domba. Vow. Yeah. How many vows are there? What kinds of vows are there? Domba. There's a Sosatarpa. The liberation vows. Yeah, Pratimoksha vow. Then, dechen, similarly, there's a samten. Meditation. Yeah, automatic vow, because you are shut up. Okay. And then, sakme. [Speaker 2] The pure vows. [Speaker 1] Yeah. Meaning, almost you don't have any mental afflictions. So, how can you have any? That itself is a vow. That itself control you. Ge means, ge is distributed. Okay. The word ge is spread to the two words before it. To start or to arise. Yeah. So, what do you think it means? You guys think about it. The vow which ge from samten or sakme. What's it mean? In English. The vow which comes from Yeah, when you are in meditation, you didn't take that vow. Oh, I promise to keep, I promise not to hit anybody while I'm in meditation. Okay. You didn't make a commitment. It came from your meditation. It automatically grows. The the vow, self-control, automatically grows when you're in deep meditation. Okay. Nobody gave it to you. You didn't make promise in a temple. Okay. And what's the other one? Sakme. Yeah. When you got rid of your last mental affliction, then kye, you got a new vow by accident. Okay. You're not going to hurt anybody after you become Buddha. Okay. All right. So, the last, there's three kinds of vows. First one you have to take in the temple. Second one, third one, they just grow automatically if you are meditating or if you're Buddha or almost Buddha. Cool. That's Therefore, he says, the bodhisattva vow is not this vow. He said this. Okay. Don't forget. In a debate, listen to every word. If the guy say it is not a vow, you attack. If he say it's not this vow, you say, yeah, that's correct. Cool. All right. We have two minutes. Grandpa never wastes two minutes. I'm serious. I'm serious. What's the worst question to ask Geshe-la? Geshe-la, you have a minute? Okay. So, who's going to read, Shelby? Roxanne, continue. Maybe, we don't have any. You want to try? Quick. [Speaker 2] Okay. Yeah, chun diwa. [Speaker 1] Chun diwa. Yeah, nice. Beautiful. Yay. He's been quoting the Abhidharma system. Therefore, he's been quoting the Abhidharma kosha system. Therefore, if he says, rang del, Roxanne, what's he talking about? [Speaker 2] What I really meant. All the commentary to... [Speaker 1] All the commentary to the kosha. So, who wrote it? Same author. [Speaker 2] All the commentary means... [Speaker 1] Vasubandhu. Vasubandhu. Yeah. So, he's quoting Vasubandhu's explanation of Vasubandhu. Okay. Cool. Okay. And he says, dongpa nampa sum. There's three types of vows. There's three types of vows. This is his commentary to his own root text, which we just read. Okay. That was a long time ago. Okay. There's sotsa tarpa dongpa. [Speaker 2] Liberation vows. [Speaker 1] That belongs to chun diwa. Chun diwa means those people in this system. What's this system? Vaibhashika. Okay. Vaibhashika. The lowest Indian system. Okay. That's the vows that these guys accept. But only in one realm, Roxanne. Which realm? [Speaker 2] Oh, the dopa desire realm. [Speaker 1] Yeah. Kama doctrine. Of three realms. Normal world. Okay. In the normal world. Now he says, samteng gi dongpa. The automatic... [Speaker 2] Vows that come from meditation? [Speaker 1] Yeah, the vows you get automatically when you are in deep meditation. You don't have to take them. They come automatically. Those vows relate mostly to the sukham. The form realm. Yeah, form realm. Because the form realm is a place that you get to by doing a lot of meditation. And while you're there, you are usually in meditation. So, you can say the second kind of vow, which is the one which is born from concentration, especially relates to the second doctrine, the second part of the universe. Okay. Now what's he gonna say? Not what you expect. sarpa me pe dongpa. The pure vows? Yeah, the vows of a person who has no more problems. That's really sarpa me. Okay. That's only Buddhists have that. Buddhists have that one. Okay. And that's a quotation. He... Now, the other guy used that quotation by Vasubandhu to prove to us we are wrong. Because this book is Vaibhashika system of Vinaya. Okay. This book is Abhidharma system of Vinaya. Okay, cool. Okay. What's wrong with what? He's correct. He is. I say he's correct. In the Abhidharma system, he's correct. There's only three kinds of vows. Buddha never... In the Abhidharma system, he didn't describe bodhisattva vows. If you're curious, the concept of bodhisattva comes in the Abhidharma kosha in one sentence. And I don't think it's meant the same way. Okay? They just don't have it. They just don't have it. Now, Xiaoping is begging for her homework assignment. So, you're going to translate dena, something? Yeah. And you're going to translate sakme. Okay? Those two sentences. Thank you. All right. Let's give Xiaoping a hand. Thank you, Geshe. To keep studying even when you're sick, it's... You have to do it because you're going to get sick. Okay? The reason we study this book is so we can stop suffering. But while you're studying, you're going to suffer. Okay? By the way, when you study something important, you are finishing your bad seeds. And then you get sick. Diamond Cutter Sutra said, Jin Gang Jing said, if you finish your bad seeds by coming to class, you will catch a small cold or you will get stomach problem or something for a few days instead of going to the hell realms. Okay? So, when you get a cold in the class, you have to say, Yay! I don't have to go to the hell realms. Okay? Got it? Seriously. That's not me. That's the Buddha said it in the Jin Gang Jing. Right? Okay, stop here. Yeah, I have one more announcement. Okay. Is that okay? Oh, yes. Yeah. So, Grandpa wrote a hundred and twenty-three books. Wrote or translated? And I think the best seller is called Diamond Cutter Business Book. And they translate the monk meet the diamond or something like that. And that's sold like a million copies in forty-five countries. How many books? Three million? It's translated into forty-five languages. Over a million. It's hard to tell. Like in Vietnam, it's the number one seller, but it's all black market. Grandpa got famous, but Grandpa didn't make any money. So anyway, Chinese government long time ago approved this book. Twenty years ago. And they said it is legal to sell in China. That's probably why I met some of you. And then seven years ago, I wrote a new ... I made some addition material, and we sold a twentieth anniversary. Then Stanley started to request permission to print twentieth anniversary in China. They gave permission, but it took five years. So we call it twenty-fifth anniversary. Okay, and just approved. This week, this last week. And it has some extra material. And they are not available generally yet. Only a few copies available. Whenever a few copies are available, it's an opportunity for fundraising for the university. Don't forget, I am not making money. Xiaoping not making money. Stanley not making money. But every day we have to think some way to squeeze more money out of our friends. Then a few days ago, Stanley brought the first copy from China. Then me and Xiaoping are fundraising, fundraising. Now, old business trick, which I'm going to teach you later today. It's called two bad choices. I'll explain it later today. In your case, you have two bad choices. Number one, you can give a donation of one hundred thousand rinminbin or more, or more, to the university. And you get two things. You get the book, signed by grandpa, and you get your name on the university building somewhere. I told Xiaoping, if someone give a lousy small donation, let's put their name in the toilet. Michael Roche Memorial Toilet. No, but if it's a big gift, at Princeton also, they will put your name on the building. Your family's name. Those of you went with me to Princeton, I showed you where I stayed, my room. That's called Dodd Hall, D-O-D-D, Dodd Hall. And that's the family name who donated a hundred years ago. And we keep that name for the whole university. So, if you make donation of over a hundred thousand rinminbin, we give you the Dodd Hall. We put your name on a building at the university, or something smaller. Somewhere in the university. Now you say, Geshe-la, that sounds great, but I don't have this much money. Oh, then for you we have special program. How old is Geshe Michael? 71.99. Tuesday I'm 72. Right now, that's why I'm going back. My wife will kill me if I'm not there for my birthday. If I don't go back for my birthday, that will be my last birthday. So, now I'm 71.99. So, if you lie, you cannot afford a building, or a hundred thousand or more. Then just give 7199 rinminbin for one birth. It's a 1,000 US dollar. Okay, then I sign a book, give you a book. Only can get many books. Yeah. By the way, so I gave you two options. Understand? No, if you cannot give, that's fine. Sometimes I don't have any money at all because of my cafe. Then that time I don't give any donation. And that's okay. We still love you. But if you can give something, give something. If you really don't have money, I will smuggle you a book. But don't tell Xiaoping. Don't worry, I will give them also. Okay, alright. Alright, so talk to Xiaoping or staff. You can pass around, look at it. Thank you guys. Another announcement? No, I just tell them when they can get it. [Speaker 2] It's a domestic edition. But now we don't have this batch. You can't buy it outside. This batch is a special offer. [Speaker 1] Very limited volume. Thank you Stanley for hard work. Thank you everyone. [Speaker 2] Thank you teachers. Let's say goodbye to the teachers. Thank you. Thank you. Let me grab my phone. You can't buy it in China. You can't buy it outside. This special edition is not for sale. It's for Jin University and other projects. But there will be a flat edition in the future. But you can only buy it here. You can write your name on it. [Speaker 1] Okay, very good. [Speaker 2] You can leave all your headphones on the table. Or you can give them to your colleagues. Let's say goodbye to the teachers. Please stay. We will have some attention. Let's say goodbye to the teachers. Love will keep us alive. I would die for you. That's right. Baby. There's nothing I wouldn't do. There's no more emptiness inside. Please stay. We have a few things to tell you. First of all, if you take your headphones, please put them on the table. [Speaker 1] Our staff will take them away. Please help to take the trash on the table outside. Especially the glass bottles. You can't leave glass bottles in this room. Thank you again, CSP students. Thank you very much for your participation. [Speaker 2] The class will start at three o'clock in the afternoon. The first part will be shared by Ms. Qian Xiao. So I hope you can arrive a little earlier. Because she usually arrives early. [Speaker 1] Three o'clock. Yes, three o'clock. We can arrive ten minutes earlier. After that, there will be a special class of EMBA. In this hall. MBA students will be in Hefeng Hall. [Speaker 2] In Hefeng Hall. Okay. The morning class is over. Enjoy your lunch. Thank you.