Вордсмит — Книга 2: Трудные места школы «Ум только», занятие 65

[Speaker 1]
Hey there, how are you? All right, how's it going? Good, good.

Did anybody have fun? Yeah, did you get to the beach today? Not today, no, that would have been fun.

Yeah. I was at a park over the beach pushing on my swing for a half hour and that was nice.

[Speaker 2]
That's not bad, a little dose of ocean air at least.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, at least, cleans out the sinuses. Oh look, there's some people. Hi everybody, welcome to Xuanzang's Tower.

Glad to see you here. Thank you, we're glad to be here. Thank you for hosting.

It's so good to hear from you, Kat. Thank you, and we're looking forward to a evening slash morning, maybe afternoon, somewhere of exciting classes. First is Mr. Words, there he is, in person, in class. And I thought you got a webcam for a second. And then a Q&A, a fantastic Q&A. So do you have a homework ready for us, Mr. Word?

All right, good. We should only use one mic, right? Can you hear, can everyone hear me?

I think they can hear you. Oh, it's this mic. Yeah.

Well then. Okay. All right, is everyone ready?

No. Perfect, neither am I. Okay, another exciting edition of Difficult Points.

So we're doing a mind-only book by Jason Kappa, and it is hard, and you're not gonna know any of the answers, don't worry. Yay. I don't need to.

All right, question one. We're talking about the part of your mind that messes up the rest of your mind, all right? We are in a section of our text that is going through the different considerations concerning the negative consciousness, all right, the messed up part of your mind, as outlined by Master Vastubandhu in his 30 verses.

Currently, we are on the fifth of those considerations. What is the question it asks? What are we talking about?

[Speaker 3]
Where is the nuni?

[Speaker 1]
What about the nuni? What'd you say? Where is it?

Where is it, yeah. What is it? Uh, kinda.

What'd you say? He said, what is the nuni? Yeah.

We kinda did that. You can ask her. We already did what?

Yeah. It's a little more specific. Where?

Where does it locate? Yeah, nuni. In which realm?

Where is the nuni? Wait, wait. Yeah, what level is it on?

What level does it exist on? Related to the person? Yeah, exactly.

What level of reality is the negative consciousness of a person with respect to that person? I guess that's the question. Yeah.

Okay, good. What was Jason Copper's answer to the above question? So what level is the nuni on?

Whatever the person has been born, the nuni would be at some level. You're right. Do you pay attention in class or something?

What if they're meditating? It's still on the level they were born in. But why?

I don't know. Negative consciousness is on the level of reality that the person who has that negative consciousness was born into. Yeah.

That's what Jason Copper said. And Master Vasubandhan. Okay, three.

What is the next of these considerations and why is this and its predecessor a little strange as concerns the outline of our book? That's a cool question. I have no idea what to answer.

I don't know why any of this doesn't matter. Well, one day when you're, after you die, everything, I wish I knew. I confused Oscar, which was the point.

Is it, where is it, when does it, it gets turned on or turned off? Yeah, yeah. That's the, yeah, that's the current consideration.

That's number six. Perfect. But why is it weird as concerns the outline?

I don't know that. I can't say. You told me.

Jason Copper doesn't mention it in the outline. That's why it's weird. Oh, I see what you're saying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's tricky. This and the last one, he doesn't mention in the outline.

He mentions the first four considerations, but not five and six. I don't know why. So the next consideration is when, is when the negative consciousness stops.

It is a little strange because although Jason Copper discusses them in our text, he does not include them in his outline of the topics to be discussed. He does include the first four. Yeah.

That's all. All right. Deio.

To threaten. Deio. Yeah.

Deio. Deio. Deio.

Deio. Deio. What does kandukepa deio mean?

Deio? What's the day of return? If I told you that, you'd know, you'd get the answer.

Whatever is born into. Yeah, yeah. Whatever, whatever level that person was born into.

Day is suck, actually, I think. Yeah, yeah. That's not real.

That person's level? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Oh, it was just the end of the line.

Okay. Whichever level that person was born into. By the way, I think it's the only triple.

Giptong means two vowel sounds in one syllable. Like, and it's very rare to have three in Tibetan. It is.

Do you want to show off in a hangman game or something? Okay. Triyu, like a little monkey?

Triyuis? You can say that. A little monkeys?

Triyui, of the little monkey. Yeah, of the little monkey. There's another one.

If you had to end a sentence like that, it'd be triyo. Triyo. We have four.

The little monkey, period. Okay, I think there's a little monkeys, period. Okay, true.

All right. What does that mean? Turning the wheel backwards is what it means in the...

It does. In the Wheel of Life book, it means when does the wheel, starting and stopping the wheel or something. Yeah.

Forward progression and backwards progression. Exactly. In this one, it refers more specifically to when does the negative consciousness function or when does it literally start and stop or something like that.

When it is functioning. Yeah. Okay, the next one's long because we're running out of...

Things to write. Okay. Wang tope jangchub sempa sagepa yenche.

What does that mean? Up to a bodhisattva who has achieved the level of... The eighth level.

That would be menche. Oh, you're right. Yenche.

The levels. You're super close. One word off.

Yeah, yeah. You have to include the one mentioned. Yeah.

Eighth and above. It's tricky. Yeah, got it.

It's people on the... Go ahead. Yeah.

People who have achieved the power on the eighth bodhisattva level and up. Yeah, like that. Are there eighth level bodhisattvas who have not achieved power?

Maybe. I think there are. Okay.

I think there's two kinds. Really? I believe those who have achieved power and those who have not.

I was worrying about it lately. Okay. Yeah, I'm worried about level zero.

You're worried about level eight. Okay, here's a translation of mine. Can you read?

Student translation, how about that? Yeah, that's okay. Okay.

I'll read the... That's Chinese. Chinese.

Okay. Nice. Let's see here.

Actually, he had just mentioned two different kinds of nyungi. So nyungi is the negative part of your mind. It's one-eighth of your consciousness.

And it's focused on your refrigerator, your karmic refrigerator, which is the seventh part of your mind. It focuses on it and it takes it to be a self-existent me. And then because of that negative part of your larger mind, you do bad things, you hurt people, things like that.

And that nyungi, that negative state of mind, is divided into two types. And in the last paragraph, he gave you the two types. And now he's gonna say the first one is this and the second one is that.

Do you remember the two types? No, I tried to look and I couldn't figure it out. Yeah, this is difficult.

This second is impossible. So, you know, today's a bad day to come here. Nyungi mute.

Read this one. Okay. Nyungi mute.

It's not on the screen again. You wanna share your screen? No, it's okay.

Just read it. Nyungi mute. Okay.

Yeah. de tar chen na nyungi mute ngar sem pe yi dang he ma tak pe yi to. Yeah, so he's dividing this negative consciousness into two parts, two kinds.

One is the one that looks at your storehouse of karmic seeds and says, that's me. Okay, and it has a strong feeling of me and that causes trouble. But then he mentions a second version of the same state of mind, negative state of mind.

And he says, that's called just after mind. That's called just after mind. Okay, then it needs explanation.

Okay, then we go back to work. Yay. So the first one, okay.

Okay. Which is what? Just after mind?

No. I don't know. You mean the nyungi?

Yeah, the one who's looking at me. The one who says me. Okay, the first of the two forms of negative consciousness, okay.

The first one creates a condition, ne chen ne, right? Uh-huh. That binds us good to the six, to the tse ma of the collection of six of this, the collection of six consciousnesses.

Oh, the signs? Yeah, meaning probably the object, okay. The signs, okay.

So when you perceive an object, you see signs. You never see the whole object. Your eye is jumping around.

You see black, you see ear, you see chin, you think Stanley. Your mind feels Stanley. So, okay.

So it's attached somehow to the indicators, tse ma, of the six kinds of awareness. So there are eight total consciousnesses. Six are the normal ones in the Heart Sutra.

Seven is the negative state of mind. And then eight is the karmic storehouse, okay. Yeah, so the first one, which is what?

The one that's... The one that looks at... No, no, negative consciousness?

Yeah, no, the one that looks at the refrigerator and it says, that's me, that's me, okay. That state of mind creates an opportunity to be used and binded, bound. Bound to the indicators picked up by the six consciousnesses, okay.

And therefore it becomes kunanyamoba. Totally negative? Yeah.

Yeah, makes us kunanyamoba, right. Makes us kunanyamoba, okay. Messes us up, okay.

Now he's got a weird one, okay. What was the second one, do you remember? The right after one?

The one right after. And that's all he said. It's a state of mind just after that.

Negative consciousness, which is the seventh of your consciousnesses in the mind-only school, has a second form, which is called the just after form. And here he's gonna define it, okay. Nibbani, the second one.

What's second, man? Is, yeah, secondly, tsultrim kyi dema takyan che. Now that's weird, okay.

What's a dema takyan? It's one of the four conditions in the second chapter of the Abhidharmakosha. The condition of what is triggered right after the consciousness perceives something?

Well, it means the factor which triggers something just after, okay. So dema takyan means just after and a just subsequent condition. But it doesn't refer to what comes just after it.

It refers to the condition that triggers something just after it, okay. All right. So supposedly, the negative part of your mind triggers something else just after it, okay.

And somehow that's important enough to say it's separate, okay. What does it trigger? Let's see if he says here.

Che ne dang dak tong che. This is very, very intriguing and I have no idea where it's here. Yeah, rang dak tong, rang dak.

On its own, it stops. It stops, okay. That moment of awareness stops.

And due to that, tong, okay, because it stops, it go je, go je. Begins, it splits up. This je means opens an opportunity, go kap, go kap.

So it opens a chance. It gives a chance. It provides an opportunity, go je, go je, okay.

For what? For the next moment of consciousness, all right. The ending of a certain part of your negative state of mind from moment to moment provides an opportunity for the next moment of consciousness.

And I never heard of this and I don't see how they got it. It's gonna play a major role in the whole discussion today. And I don't get it personally.

I could see where if the thermic refrigerator stopped, that might create something in the next instant or something. But I don't see why specifically a negative state of mind should be responsible for your general awareness to continue. I don't see why.

See what I mean? When this negative state of mind, when this negative state of mind blinks out from moment to moment, in that millisecond, it provides an opportunity for normal consciousness to arrive. It's difficult.

It's really difficult. So in this kind of a situation when you're halfway into a book, you just say, let's go ahead and see if it burns itself up. And if not, we all forget about it, I guess.

Okay. That's what I do. So the first one is expected, right?

What was the first function of your negative consciousness? To look at the foundation conscious and say, it's okay. Yeah, to look at your karmic refrigerator of all your seeds and say, that's me.

In a mistaken way, along with four different- Mental afflictions. Yeah, four different negative emotions are triggered by thinking that's me. All kinds of pride and arrogance and fighting with other people.

But why it plays a major role in the continuation of awareness is weird. That would imply you couldn't keep thinking if you ever thought not negative. You see what I mean?

Yeah. And that's a big argument later, right? But that's weird.

Yeah. If you ever stopped your negative awareness, by the way, that's the section we're in. We're in the discussion of, can you stop the negative part of your own consciousness?

And then he says, by the way, the negative part of your consciousness provides an opportunity for the consciousness of the next moment. So do you want to stop it? That's just weird, right?

It starts to get into the argument about if you achieve nirvana, then do you just believe it? Yeah, it harkens back to Abhidharma mistakes, but those are three schools ago. Okay.

Let's keep going. That's the only thing you can do when you can't understand anything. Does it say it's the only thing that triggers the next consciousness?

It does not say that. Okay. Next paragraph word.

Yay. Okay. Sure.

Yeah, good. Chike Du, so he's going to quote somebody to back up what he said. About what?

Two types of negative consciousness. Okay, he's going to... And by the way, in his presentation, which one comes first?

The me. Yeah, the me thing. And then comes the providing opportunity for the next moment of consciousness.

Okay. When he quotes scripture, it's reversed. Just so you know.

Okay. So which one do we expect now? It's going to be a scripture which supports the idea that the negative consciousness provides an opportunity for the arisal of normal consciousness in the next instant.

Okay, good. Yeah. Which scripture is he quoting?

Chike Du. It's word's book. I think it's word's book.

Let me go. And let's go see here. Oh, you're right.

Sometimes he's right. Okay, Mayana Sangraha. Yeah, okay.

Here we go. I can't see your whole... I can't see the...

Oh, sorry. Yeah, there we go. Okay.

Let's just check your translation. Do you want to read or have someone read? Oh, you read already.

I read. Chike du de la yin ni nyi te. What's that mean?

On the subject of negative consciousness, two aspects. Good. Deva tapay ken chepay.

Yeah, you see, because it provides a just subsequent factor. Because it provides a factor for what comes just after it. Okay?

That's called deva tapay. By the way, those are normally mental. A mental state which provides an opportunity for the mental state of the next moment.

And in Abhidharma, that's crucial. Why? Because that's where...

It's about perception and how you perceive things, right? Deeper than that. The cruise path lies.

Huh? The cruise path lies. No, well, that's a good guess.

That's a pramana. It doesn't have to be something that is becoming... Does it prove that?

Yeah, are you? Yeah. How can a normal consciousness all suddenly act as a cause for the next moment in which you see ultimate reality directly?

Because they are so dissimilar. How can a normal state of mind be a demakakyan, just preceding condition for the direct perception of ultimate reality in the next moment? And that's a reasonable concern if you're an Abhidharma person.

Because why? Because you want to see it. You want to trigger that.

Yeah. If there's some state of mind that would trigger the direct perception of ultimate reality and get me out of suffering forever and help me save all other beings, then it'd be nice to know how I get there. How do I trigger it?

Okay? Okay, good. Jigme de la nyi de demakakyan chepay nesugyurpa.

Guess what nesugyurpa means. To transform, right? I would say somehow it provides a space.

Really? You see what I mean? I thought it was short.

I thought it was long for nesugyurpa. Yeah, it is. But here, I think it's the idea of goche to offer an opportunity.

You know what I mean? Okay. I think.

Number shepa gagma thang. What's that mean? When the consciousness ceases.

Yeah, just after consciousness stops, that state of mind, ye che jawa, the thing called ye, which is negative consciousness. Chitta, right? Yeah.

Is it chitta? Manas. Manas.

The thing called manas provides a place. You see what I mean? You and me provides a place for the arisal of normal consciousness.

Okay. Okay, so that's the second function that we read about, about. Okay, somehow your negative awareness provides space for your whole mind to exist in the next moment.

But that's got lots of problems with it. Yes. Because then if you get rid of the negativeness in your mind, your mind would have to stop.

And we're not in the Abhidharma school. We're not in the school that says nirvana is when you stop. Okay.

All right, next one. All right. Something easy.

Who's going to read? Do you want to pick on somebody? I love picking on people.

That's what teachers are all about. Except for handing out a hundred dollars, yeah. I don't know.

Okay, good. Second part, which is going back to the first point before. Okay.

That's long for negative consciousness. Yeah, negative state of mind has four different... All four negative emotions.

Yeah, all four negative emotions. Jeetsal Nathal, the view of destruction, right? Nga'o Nyangpa'i Ngagyal, the pride that thinks of itself as me.

By the way, I assert that Nga'o Nyangpa'i Ngagyal in this book is not the same as the Nga'o Nyangpa'i Ngagyal in your first book. Really? Yeah.

In his first book, he had how many mental functions in the back, in the appendix? 51. I remember fixing them in the gym, in Pottingley, because V had trouble opening her locker.

And I had an hour in the lobby. By Nga'o Nyangpa'i Ngagyal, pride which thinks me, yeah. Pride which focuses on me.

So normally that's just one of the nine or 11 forms of pride in general. But here, I think it's a special thing where you're thinking self against you. See what I mean?

There's a difference. Okay. And three, dakwa chakpa.

Is that, oh. Yeah. This is just chakpa towards dakwa.

See what I mean? He had explained it as... Yeah, he explained it as wanting to feel good.

Yeah. Okay. And maripa dang takti sung dang.

Misunderstanding is continuously linked to the... Okay. Whatever comes before dang would normally be what you're connected to.

You see what I mean? But then what is? So, you know.

Continuously linked to, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, that's legally what it says.

Yeah, okay. Okay. These are the negative states of consciousness, okay?

That part we expect. The other part we didn't expect, okay? How it provides an opportunity for the general awareness at the next moment.

We don't know why. Okay. Okay.

Do you want to keep going there? Did you do more? Yeah.

Can you read that last sentence again after the text? Yeah. Daily membership continuum, this.

I think he's summarizing those four. You see what I mean? That's a totally messed up state of consciousness.

Okay. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. All right. Next turn.

Rob was like, I'm out of it. I mean, then Rob might disappear. You want to go back?

Alison, Alison. Yeah. Xiaoping.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, now I want to be called Xiaoping.

[Speaker 1]
You do?

[Speaker 3]
Shall we?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Okay. Whatever you want.

I can mispronounce your name in any way. Please read this. Thank you.

[Speaker 3]
Yay.

[Speaker 1]
Good. Thank you. Yeah.

Wait. Yeah. Try to show both at the same time.

Okay. This consciousness. Good.

The chick ball I was wondering about. Does that mean first here? Yeah.

That which by itself. Okay. Right?

That's what I decided on. Yeah. That's okay.

Okay. Well, I would say its first condition is that it provides a place for the rise of consciousness. That's what he's saying.

And then secondly, okay. Yeah. The first one here is somehow it has to be, it's just providing you a place.

Okay. By itself, maybe. Yeah.

And then secondly, it makes you messed up. That's easy. Okay.

Makes you messed up-ish, right? Yeah. Okay.

It's just to say, yeah, no, I think he's explaining nyunyi. You see what I mean? Nyunyi.

I think the second piece here describes nyun. The third piece describes yi. Oh, wow.

And how he got the, I guess nyunyi can number shepa or something like that. You see what I mean? But he's explaining why we call it a number shepa.

Because it is aware of its object, it is a consciousness. Okay. Yeah, okay.

We call it a consciousness because it's aware of its object. You see what I mean? Yeah, sure.

So he's, I think this paragraph is explaining the name. You see what I mean? Yeah, that makes total sense.

Okay. Yeah, the first part, yeah, number shepa and the next part. Yeah.

No, no, yeah. Yeah, the first part goes back to number shepa. Okay.

But that's the part we don't understand. It provides a place, right? It provides a space for consciousness.

Okay. Okay, let's make Xiaoping do the next one. Okay, last one.

dempa takpa thang na sempe cher yi ni nampa ni so she so. Yeah. We say she, it comes in two forms.

Nampa ni, because number one, it's a dema tangent. Yeah, it's a thing that will occur immediately after. No, it provides a space for what occurs immediately after.

See what I mean? Yeah, it is a condition which provides a space. Yeah, good.

And secondly, easy. And it's a messed up state of mind. Which ngar sempe, which thinks me.

Yeah, me, me, me, me. Okay, got it? We still don't understand the first one.

He has had a long quotation from Master Sangha. It doesn't really help us understand the first one. Is there a karmic reason why?

That the ni would provide a space for your normal consciousness? Normal or suffering, maybe. Well, if it's lumaten, if it's neutral, it's like some kind of neutral template or something.

I mean, is it possible that the existence of egotism, say, is what creates the karma to have a messed up state of mind in the next moment? That's what happens to me. That's an interesting question, but it's not clear.

And I don't think anyone's talked about it yet. It bothers me. Okay, all right.

Again, let's go. I get to go now.

[Speaker 3]
Yay.

[Speaker 1]
Let's go back to grandpa. Yes. Where is this guy?

Now, I have a proposal. That's called a key, again. I know.

Oh, okay. You know, there's a method in my heart, a man. What is that?

I don't know what I'm talking about. That's not the problem. It's happening.

You know, something's happening. I see. There we go.

Can you guys see points at which? Okay, good. I got lost in Tsongkhapa, in his commentary.

He's commenting on his own poetry, okay? So it was so difficult that when we first tried to translate this book, we gave up. And we went to an easier explanation of the same poetry.

And we finished it, and we published it. And it's well done. And I think it's a great contribution to this topic.

But I want to go back to the verse that we're supposed to be at, which to me, when I get lost, I like to go back to where the hell am I supposed to be? Okay, so here's the verse from Ward's first book. Can you read?

Gopa? Sure can. Gopa nyam shak, ne kyap du, wang tob ja chom, par tok kok.

Yeah, and in verse 34, what's the book by Tsongkhapa called that we're reading the poetry of? Difficult points? Difficult points in mind, and- Not vision consciousness.

Yeah, refrigerator consciousness. And it's a pun or something, because he didn't say difficult points in messed up mind. He called his book, Difficult Points in Mind and Storehouse Consciousness.

He did not say difficult points in messed up mind and storehouse consciousness. Why he left out the messed up part would be a doctoral thesis, okay? But here's his poetry.

And what's he discussing, Ward, at this point? He's talking about, when does the negative consciousness cease? Like, when are you free of negativities and how does that relate to the existence of the negative consciousness?

Yes, and under what conditions can you stop the negative part of your mind? Which is kind of the equivalent of nirvana or something, okay? Like, under what conditions can the negative state of mind be stopped?

And that's why we got into these two functions of negative state of mind. Number one, it messes you up. Number two, it provides an opportunity for the awareness of the general awareness, you know what I mean?

Then if you stop it, doesn't that cause problems? Okay, got it? Good?

Here's the original poem. This is the verse we're in, okay? It is stopped temporarily.

Make up. In cessation, cessation meditation means when you're so deep into meditation that your general mind and the various functions of the mind are temporarily frozen, on a gross level, on a deep level they're not, okay? So during a deep, deep meditation, your negative state of mind, number seven, blinks out, or goes into frozen mode or something like that, okay?

Then he says, and in the meditation, capital T, what's he meaning? What's the meditation? Yeah, direct perception of emptiness.

This is why we translated it with a, okay? If you say meditation, it's a problem, okay? Lots of people are in meditation and they're having negative meditations.

Like every time you hit somebody. So those are two temporary conditions under which the negative part of you is shut down or temporarily frozen, okay, to come back later. And then here's the ultimate conditions.

It is stopped finally. When power is achieved, what's that mean, we had it in his vocabulary. Wong told, it means achieving a certain level of Bodhisattva on the eighth level of- Yeah, I believe it's an advanced level in something like that, okay?

And if you become a Drachoma, Arhat, okay? If you become, in this school, if you become an Arhat, you lose your seventh consciousness forever, okay? You have no more negative consciousness, okay?

So don't forget that's where we are, okay? And by the way, I read his commentary, his first book. It doesn't help at all here.

That guy skipped this whole section. Smartly. That's why his book is easier.

By the way, there's another verse that relates to this topic, okay? The next verse, and we're gonna get to this verse, okay? Yeah.

There's problems if you get rid of your negative consciousness, okay? We'll get to that later, all right? Okay, let's go to the actual book that we're supposed to be in.

Okay, so we finished these four parts. Yeah. And we marked- You still see the golden key, Geshe-la, I'm sorry.

Sorry, what? You still see the golden key. Share your screen.

Reshare. Thank you. Can you see it?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, these are the four sections that were translated.

And by the way, we made a mark of differences between the ancient scriptures quoted by Tsongkhapa and the ancient scriptures as they exist in our database. Okay, and there's a problem here, Mr. Brady. That they were just establishing the translations of the ancient Indian literature during Tsongkhapa's time.

And he preferred other translations. And he quotes those. And then those translations, because they didn't make it into the big one, got lost.

They were on paper. The big one was on wood. So, when you have a quotation by Tsongkhapa from the Indian classics in one of his books, oftentimes it's different from the version we have.

And the differences are, somebody should write a book about the differences. Because he preferred a different translator. And this is a great translator who was one of the people who was first sent to get Atisha.

And he, by the way, is the only one who survived of his group. And then he came back, Nakta, Motsawa. And he survived and came back.

And Johnson Copper prefers, that was 400 years before Tsongkhapa. Okay, but he prefers his translation, okay? Anyway, sometimes it helps to read the difference.

Okay, so there's the version that we have in the Dergate carving, like it is. And then we mark the differences which words graduate students are going to study. Okay, let's get this bigger.

Who's going to read one? This is a big piece. You could really frustrate somebody.

Yes. Tracey. Tracey, are you?

[Speaker 2]
Hi, thank you. Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Wow, you're amazing. I don't know. I told you this.

I don't know what drug you took. Share. Ah, share, yeah.

Okay, here we go. I mean, one day she didn't know any Tibetan and then the next day she's reading it quite well. I don't know.

Gyalte wan tope semba. Yes, if semba, if this means chanchu semba, you see what I mean? Oh, you think?

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, so the D is, where's the D? No, I mean, it's a nickname. If a chanchu semba who has wang topa.

Yeah, okay. If you got one of those special bodhisattva who's got power, which is advanced eighth level, ninth level, 10th level, okay. Is it a Dhamma talk again without the power?

Oh, right, yeah. That's good, yeah. Or a drachomba.

Arhats muni shri nirvana? Yeah. Yeah, or a person in parpe nyam shak.

Someone in the meditation? Of the direct perception of emptiness. Nye nye me.

They don't have a functional nye nye? Oh. No, they just don't have functional, they don't have- One at all?

Negative consciousness at all. During those states, the negative consciousness is shut down, okay? Out of the eight kinds of consciousness in which school?

Mind only. Mind only school, they only have seven, okay? Which is kind of nirvana, all right?

If they don't have negative state of mind at that moment, okay, got it? At that moment, I say they also don't have yikin number two. Yeah, they don't have mental consciousness?

They don't have any consciousness at all because they lack the negative state of mind, which provides an opportunity for the general consciousness of the next moment. According to you, then, these people in these high spiritual states should stop thinking at all. And that's this controversial second function of the negative mind, okay?

And I would have the same problem, you know? Okay, so why should I shut it down? Because then it's going to shut down my whole mind.

Okay? gyur te, nye gyur te, kyang mep. They wouldn't have it.

By the way, this is a Shaynard. Right, it's a question? This whole thing is one long objection from somebody, okay?

He says, well, then according to you, if they shut down the negative consciousness, they shut down their mind. gyur te, why? Because the nye nyi, which provides the dak yin of yikin number shepa, mep.

Yeah, because the nye nyi, which provides the boss condition, the main condition of the general consciousness, it doesn't exist. Yeah, and I'll give you a little piece here. Dak yin, which means a condition within the person, also sometimes means, it doesn't mean the main factor anymore.

It means factor included in a particular individual. And that's what it feels like here. Okay.

Yeah. Is that particular person? Yeah, that particular person's mind will be shut down.

Why? Because they lost the nye nyi for that period of time, therefore they can't have- They lost their negative consciousness. And according to everybody, we just had Arya Sangha.

Right. The negative consciousness is what allows your mind to continue. Okay, it's really irritating.

Probably why my mind is continuing. Yeah, maybe that's the name's existence then. Well, you still have the same problem, that if you suddenly get rid of all your negativities, you would stop thinking.

Yes. It's uncomfortable. Not if you didn't have a mind.

Okay. Okay, now that's the first half of his objection. If what you say is true, then when you achieve these high spiritual states, you should become mindless.

Because the thing that provides the opportunity for the continuation of mind itself is missing. Then secondly, yang, also, if you're a Wangtopa guy- Hey, someone who's achieved power in a Doi Sa level or up. Or you're a Dachomba.

Someone who has achieved nirvana. You should have achieved nye nyi yeshe. You should have achieved the wisdom, which is one of the transformations.

Yeah, exactly. Discrimination has become equalized. It's weird, yeah.

Equivalent wisdom. It's a state of a high bodhisattva. The five keeps transformed.

So nye nyi yeshe means equivalent wisdom. Roughly, sees all things as emptiness. How's that?

Equally. Something like that, okay? So he says, let's take those high, high arhats and those high bodhisattvas, okay?

They should have achieved equivalent wisdom, right? Why do you say that? Well, look, nyongmong chen yi ne gyur pe.

Here, ne gyur is what you said. Transform? Yeah.

They have transformed the negative state of mind and it has transformed into equivalent wisdom, okay? To a high state of knowledge, okay? Because all of your, especially in diamond way, especially in diamond way, each one of your keeps transforms into one of the five great wisdoms, which connects to the five buddha families.

You see what I mean? So he says, well, they should have this negative state of mind. It should have shifted into this high wisdom, which sees all things as equal, meaning empty, okay?

Got it? Shey Patar, nye nyid dok. The nye nyid stop, ends.

Yeah. Reverses? Well, I think he means here, negative state of mind would stop because it has been transformed into a different state of mind.

Neutered? You see what I mean? Your tendency to be negative has transformed into a tendency to treat all beings equally in a way, okay?

All right? In which case you don't have negative mind anymore. And then you wouldn't have any mind anymore.

But you do have a mind because it transforms. So he says, I don't get it. I don't see how you can say it provides an opportunity for the transformation of mind.

And that if we lost it, it would provide no opportunity for the continuation of a transformed mind, which is now a different kind of wisdom. Okay? He's got those problems.

I would have the same problems. I like it. By a kind of, some Indian dude.

[Speaker 2]
That's a silly question.

[Speaker 1]
Why does he separate out the eighth level bodhisattvas and the Arhat because- Yeah, it is interesting because- Because when an Arhat, I'll conclude. Yes. And that's exactly true.

Once you get through the seventh bodhisattva, bhumi, you should be an Arhat anyway. No need to mention it. But maybe it means non-bodhisattva.

Yeah, he means, yeah. Wang Topa means someone on the bodhisattva track who became an Arya. And then?

And then a chief power. And when he says Dharchomba, maybe he's implying Lord. Yeah, exactly.

I think so. I think that's correct. Okay.

By the way, I went and got some relevant quotations. He says it's by Chandragomi, right? Or somebody else said it's by Chandragomi here.

And I don't find it. So anyway, you can spend some time and look at that. I think I did spend some time.

I couldn't find it. Okay, good. Makes me feel better.

Suddenly, he shifts out of that verse we had. He's done? He's done with that verse.

He's done with saying that there are temporary losses of negative state of mind and there are permanent losses of negative state of mind. And then suddenly, this other verse comes in. And apparently, it's Je Tsongkhapa's answer to what question?

Well, what about Arhats and Wangtong? Yeah, what happened to their brain? He's concerned the same concern I would have.

If their negative consciousness is what provides an opportunity for the moment of consciousness that comes next, then shouldn't they just disappear? Or they don't exist anymore? And then he throws in this 35th verse, verse 35.

And we're gonna go there. He's gonna take us there. Who's up, Wu?

Oh, let's see. I feel like I'm dodging a bullet to get through this class about my brain exploring. I spent like five hours on this.

I was like, man, I hope I didn't get too far. Ah, Tim, you wanna read this line? Sure.

You wanna come up? Oh, Tim. Yay, Tim.

Tim's amazing. Is he translating? Oh, of course he is.

That's why he's such a good translator. By the way, we gotta thank the translators. How many there are?

I don't know, 18 or something. He's translating into Vietnamese. He's translating this stuff into Vietnamese as we go, which is weird.

By the way, I propose, Nick, that we make a more concentrated effort during the Q&A time to take questions in the opposite way, because we don't have them so far. And I think it would make people feel more included if they could ask the question in Vietnamese or ask the question in Chinese, and then it was translated this way. Because we don't do that.

And it occurred to me that there's probably a lot of people who can't speak English who would love to ask a question. So let's try it. When you start your Q&A, can you try that?

I don't know. We got seven more minutes. Anastasia Mansorova, do you wanna read this line?

Yeah, sure. Okay. Sure.

[Speaker 3]
Nice, good.

[Speaker 1]
DI LEN LA means my answer to the above concerns. Is we're gonna examine two questions. CHEN PO means we're gonna examine two questions.

First one is what, Warren? What happens to the mind during the meditation? In that deep state of meditation, do you or do you not have a state of mind?

Okay, that's the first question. And then the second, by the way, that question's coming because supposedly in deep meditation your negative state of mind is suspended, which implies that your whole mind should stop because that's one of the two functions of negative state of mind. Okay, so that's gonna be the first debate here.

The second debate is gonna be whether or not you possess a mind which is stained, which is messed up. Do you have a state of mind at all when you're in a deep meditation if negative state of mind is suspended? Here, first question.

Second question, if you do have a state of mind during that period, would it still have impurity or not? In which case it would be a negative state. Whoa, then it would come back.

Okay, good questions by the other guy. By the way, Tsongkhapa rarely lets a fool talk in his book. The questions that people pose to him in his book, when he creates an opponent, he creates smart ones.

He creates good ones. And I really respect that. That's so amazing.

All right, who's gonna read? Do we have time? Five minutes.

Yeah. I'm gonna read the whole article. Oh, who wants to read?

It's pretty long. I'll pick Jessica. Jessica, do you wanna read?

Are you available?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, thank you, teacher. Sure.

[Speaker 1]
Nice. Excellent. So in his answer, he's gonna quote Gongdo.

What's Gongdo? Oh, the book about what I really thought? Yeah, who wrote, it's a commentary, it's a commentary on what I really meant.

Who wrote it? Lord Buddha. Lord Buddha.

So it's not in the commentaries, it's of somebody else. Yeah. It's a sutra called a commentary, okay?

What I really meant, okay? Tsongkhapa is quoting it here, and you will not find this quotation in the sutra, okay? Or anything close.

Now, here's the thing. This is where I spent two, three hours on. And I didn't get my NDSE work done.

The, down below on the next page, he's gonna quote that sutra again. And that quotation also is not in the sutra. But it's quoted in Dönsang.

Oh, it is? From the sutra. Both of them, or just that one?

No, only the second one. Okay? So his unknown author, which may be Vasubandhu, but probably not, quotes a sutra in a version that no one else ever heard of.

And I found the second quotation. Tsongkhapa has pulled his second quotation of the, what I really meant, from that commentary. And that's a part of what I really meant that no one else ever heard of, okay?

So it was reasonable to assume the first part that he pulled from the same sutra should be pulled from that same commentary. But it's not. And where it's pulled from, I've searched 5,000 books, it's not in there.

So go figure, all right? Good luck. But by the way, the fact that we have Jigamberi's databases, no one in history has had that capability to find this thing.

Nobody, ever, for 2,000 years. So we're extreme, we should do it. Thank you.

Okay, don't throw things. I know, don't get so excited. Don't get lost.

That's gotta be, so, okay, Jigamberi. Yes. He gets excited.

He looks like he's setting up for a show, a big show tomorrow. Yes. Whoa, yeah, I hope my alarm doesn't go off.

Don't ever leave. All right, read more, Nyamsakit Seyong. Nyamsakit Seyong, during the time in which you, with that meditation is occurring.

Yeah, good. Yikit ze gyun, the gyun of the ze of the yi. The very substance of the mind is, has been.

The flow. The flow has been. The flow of the raw material of the mind itself.

Che. Has been cut. Low.

Ended. Meh. So it don't exist?

Or he could be saying it is not. But he doesn't need you again. Yeah.

Well, he could be saying that, what do you call it? Discontinuation is not the case. He could be saying that.

Oh, okay. Okay, it's not the case that your mind discontinues when you're in deep meditation, okay? Hmm.

Because Gongdol says, this sutra, which doesn't say it, okay? By the way, the key here is kunshi, which means what? Foundation consciousness.

Yeah, refrigerator mind. It's only mentioned three times in the whole sutra. And this is not one of them.

Okay, so kunshi de nyongyong. What's that mean? The foundation, that foundation consciousness is also lessened or somehow made less?

Yeah, good. Even if kunshi shrinks to its smallest form, even if the refrigerator shrinks to its smallest form, let's say, you still have a nam she, which is jukpa, which is- Continuing.

[Speaker 3]
Continuing.

[Speaker 1]
In conjunction with- The nuni. Yi, he says. We don't know if he's talking about yi, okay?

By the way, I think that Dori Gongdol does mention yi. So anyway, about temperature. And nyong she could say- And as well, during the meditation.

Good. Mikpa kunshi nye. If you think about it, I think you can get it right.

It requires pausing. The nye is funny again. Nye what?

Yeah, I figured like close, or which takes- Who takes kunshi as its nyepa? Exactly, which takes us, when the nuni takes kunshi as its object- Good. That kunshi is close at hand.

Yeah, okay. Okay? Sure.

When the negative state of mind is looking at the refrigerator and calling it Michael, that state of mind, that refrigerator mind is close at hand to the negative state of mind. Negative state of mind is communing with your foundation consciousness and saying, that's me. So it's close at hand, which implies that the negative state of mind has not stopped, shut down.

That's what he's trying to say. Its object is right there. So come on, it's not like it's shut down, okay?

And it continues to be again. A cause or cause, causal condition, but a cause? Yeah.

It continues to be an immediate condition. Mm-hmm. Kunshi lejong.

For the arisal of the foundation consciousness, for it to happen? It says kunshi le. From which it occurs?

So the negative consciousness actually occurs due to the foundation consciousness. That's tricky. So it's watching the thing that it's part of and it's happening due to?

Is it a karmic result? Is the negative part of your mind a karmic result? Everything is, so yes.

Then it must be coming from kunshi. Right, because everything is. From the refrigerant.

That's an interesting back and forth because we just heard that the negative state of mind had to provide the immediate cause for everything else. And now the kunshi is providing the opening for me. Okay?

So juktar. Just like this other six collections. Yeah, if you see this cup, then the seed for that has been in your foundation consciousness.

It opened and then you saw the cup. In fact, the cup is in the foundation consciousness. Due to my negative consciousness, which is in my foundation consciousness.

Now that's an interesting question. Okay. Then juktar means then you can look at blue and the famous example is blue.

Where? I'm not outside. Yeah, inside your mind.

And that leads to the final statement and I'll go sit down and we'll do Q&A with words. What's the, where is the blue? The blue is inside your- Is inside your foundation consciousness.

And what is emptiness according to the third school of Buddhism? No. No outside.

Peace? And not the kunshi. It's not thinking that the thing that you're witnessing as you witness is happening outside.

Yeah, it's understanding that the blue is not outside. When you see a blue thing, this coat. Sorry, these pants that I can't show you.

That you think is outside, okay? If you believe it's outside. To understand that it's not outside is a perception emptiness.

Now, last thing, for a hundred dollars, everyone goes, how would that help you as a person? Because when, because you would think when you were yelling at your husband or your husband's yelling back at you, you'd be like, this is just happening in my mind due to the fact that I yelled at the kids last week. So I shouldn't yell back because it's going to happen again in my mind.

A hundred bucks to the bank. All right, good class work. I'll see you later.

Thank you, Kinshala. Thanks, Katie. Is there a drink for me at all?

There's a drink. No. You have it under there.

You have somebody's drink there? Okay. And by the way, everybody, after the afterwards discussion here, and then we have P2 World News, and after that, we will have a Q&A with Tim Lowenhaupt.

So stay tuned for that, and ask questions in your language, and we will entice your translators to translate it into English for us. Yes, any language that we know. This discussion?

Discussion? Q&A or discussion? Discussion.

Either will work, okay. Well, either, whatever. Bring up something controversial.

I'm sure. I think there's more. Sorry.

So our last point was pretty controversial and difficult, and that's the whole point of our book, right? So Jason Copp is taking all the hardest parts of the Mind Only School, which is like, there's like about 60 books, and it's like, I don't know, thousands of pages, but somehow, I don't know how, he knew all of it, and he's extracting all the most hard parts from there and talking about it and discussing it. And so right now, we're discussing a point which I had never heard about, which is that the negative part of your mind, and which is the part you want to get rid of, right?

That's every school of Buddhism is trying to somehow reach a state of happiness and then further on, right? So that part of your mind, what it's doing is supposedly, according to this section, it creates by its very nature, a space where things can occur. So we're asking the question, if that is true, then there's all these difficulties that arise from there.

And the last point, which I probably think is the strangest or most difficult of them, is that everything is in your foundation consciousness, the eighth part of your mind, okay? Everything according to this school. And so that includes the seventh part of your consciousness.

So supposedly, the seventh part of your consciousness somehow is a cause or condition for everything else to occur. And yet, it has to occur due to the eighth part of your consciousness. So it kind of sets up a cycle, which seems difficult to figure out which one does which and what is happening.

So that's what we could discuss or something completely different, I don't care. Tim, do you have a question or a comment? Oh wait, no, he's translating.

Anybody? The guest will be on the front row. I mean, I have a thought and then you guys can discuss, okay?

Yes, sir. We're trying to figure out why negative state of consciousness should provide an opportunity for the mind of the next moment. And is it related to karma, you know?

And is the mind of the next moment, is it assumed that the mind of the next moment is suffering? That's my, I'm just gonna throw that out. I don't know.

I have a couple comments about that, Kim. Okay, I'm waiting. Well.

And by the way, we also got Arhats in there, so. Yeah. Well, it's talking about Arhats and these other high beings in the sense of they have somehow overcome this.

So if they overcome negativity, then what these consciousness, everyone's supposed to have them. So if, you know, is it like a lobotomy? Where does it go?

But in this school as well, the kunshi itself, the foundation consciousness has some kind of negative value attached to it. It's not considered like a neutral thing. It is stained.

So both of them have some kind of stained quality. So I'm always like, but it's the foundation of everything. So to me, it's quite confusing.

I don't know. Well, all the seeds there are dirty seeds. Okay.

Can we say that? We can say that. I mean, if it's spontaneous to hold the seeds, then all the seeds are dirty seeds.

That makes sense. So is it, and then you gotta talk about the relationship with the seeds and the foundation consciousness, which we have discussed in depth in our first book, The Golden Key, which you should buy at Diamond Cutter Press. No, you shouldn't buy it.

We should sign up for the nighttime. Oh, and you'll get it for free. And you get it.

It's a free gift. In the U.S., I don't know if it's the problematic conclusion about the equal wisdom. Yeah.

Okay. Stanley asked a question about somebody had an objection in our book. And their objection was, hey, Jason Koppel, if what you're saying is true, then what about when people reach these high states of no negativity?

Isn't it supposedly the case that their mind becomes something like beautiful where everyone is equal in the sense of their emptiness and so forth? What about them? Dr. Brady, is he there?

His specialty in Diamond Way, one of his specialties is the five deities. And one of those implies the nature or the transformation of your five deities, your nine of the five deities. Right.

And the one which transforms into equivalence. Douche. Yeah, right?

Discrimination.

[Speaker 3]
Discrimination.

[Speaker 1]
I think he chose it by now. I'm almost definite, it's Douche. Then you don't discriminate anymore.

Right. Something like that. So why did he bring up that particular wisdom?

Yeah, I'm not sure. But I do have a comment about the base question or the point, which is, I think, because what did we discuss just prior to this? We discussed the four negative emotions that relate to the nuni.

And the nine in all, four plus five, mental functions that relate to it. And the five, the group of five is those omnipresent mental functions. So I think part of it is in that.

Because think about it, if the nuni, the negative consciousness is always accompanied by five states, which you have all the time, one of which is discrimination, right? Discrimination, contact, thinking, attention, and feeling, right? Then, so if somehow to engage those five, you have to engage the nuni, then that would mean it is necessary for the nuni for, to have all those five perceptions, which are always happening.

I think nuni has those five, always has those five, but that's not the only place where the five relate. I think, I would say that. Right, aren't the five also associated with general consciousness, the main mind?

Well, the main mind in this school is kunshi, not only kunshi, it's kunshi. And they are associated with the kunshi. And it was in the book, it was in the early part of the book.

So I agree. I meant the consciousness. Right, but if the nuni has to constantly engage the kunshi to the fact of the me, then anytime the nuni engages, which is all the time, if you're sansaric, if you're someone who hasn't achieved wangtok, jachom, and pakbe, namshak, right?

So therefore, those five are always constantly being engaged by the nuni. So therefore, it's still relevant, even if there's other places those five can occur. I don't know.

Who says no, but there's something to be explored there. I mean, that's where only place Dushe is relevant or has been mentioned. So I don't know though.

I have to find out why they're calling negative state of mind necessary for the continuation of mind itself. How would we find out? Yeah, where are we gonna go?

Where are we gonna get some help? I don't know. I would go and go for, I would make a separate mind-only folder and I would just search Dema Thak or Dema Thak Hin and then like poke around.

I don't know. That would be a good start. Oh yeah, my proposal was to go to other mind-only commentaries, I assume, which are probably gonna try to deal with the problems in some cover.

Right, right. Are there commentaries to the commentary? Oh, there's many.

Oh, there is? Yeah. Uh-oh.

Forgot I asked that. Yeah, this one is easy to degrade. There should be other people like Johnny and Sherpa who have discussed it.

That'd be cool. We might need that. We might need that.

Yeah, they truly don't have any mind-only. By the way, all the mind-only school symbol works are cataloged in a separate folder. Oh, that's cool.

So we can search both of them. We can turn those on to that. Tangier and Congier are on Sumbong.

No, just Sumbong. And then you create a search field and go for just that field and then you look for Dema Thak. Exactly.

So you can do that. Yeah. I'll do it again.

Okay, that's time. It is time, but it's a birthday. Oh, you have to do that right here.

There's a birthday. Okay.

[Speaker 2]
And many more. Let's do a prediction.

[Speaker 1]
Where are you going to sit? Yeah, it's my cake. We'll give you a page number.

Okay, you hold the cake. I'll hold the book. Okay.

The interpretation of what? Oh. All right, your page number, like one to like 400 something, 457.

[Speaker 2]
Be like 54 is my page. Fuck.

[Speaker 1]
All right. All right, here we go. Okay, that's already.

We don't let images out of the temple, smiles the keeper. At this point, a question naturally arises. If the two incorrigibles are the Wesley twins, then by pure and simple logic, the temple keeper himself is Argus Filch.

I don't know where the whole part of the book is. Argus Filch. It's all about the paintings.

Okay, let's talk about paintings then.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, maybe I take a picture after.

[Speaker 1]
So there's a thing called, what do you call it? Meeting the Dharma, Chunzhen, right? And I think it's amazing.

When you go to a temple, they don't say you look at the pictures or something. They say like you meet like these amazing, these angels, these beings. So I think it bodes well to think about that in the next year.

[Speaker 3]
Okay. That's your aisle ready.

[Speaker 1]
That means many angels to you. Thank you. You're welcome.

Thank you. Thank you. I think that's it.

Take care. Take care. Thank you.

Yeah. Okay. But now for Pichu World News.

Awesome. Thank you, Ward. Yes, thank you.

Thank you for coming by. Thank you, Pichu World. Thank you for coming.

Thank you. Mr. Korn. Hey.

Thank you, Ward, for coming. Yeah. Thank you.

Yeah. No, no, no. He's gonna be tomorrow.

Tomorrow we have a special program at 6 a.m. By the way, anybody who's here locally, it's invited if you want to come. 6 a.m. is difficult, but if you can make it, we're gonna provide coffee and snacks.

[Speaker 3]
Where?

[Speaker 1]
It's gonna be at Chopin's and Stanley's house in Rimbrook. If someone wants to come and you don't know where it is, talk to us at the end and I'll let you know. If you don't wanna come live, you can join online and we're gonna show the poster in a few more moments.

But first, yeah, they cool. So, yeah, okay. We were listening to this very interesting discussion in the Mind Only School.

And when Geshe-la was talking about like, how to say, a problem comes up. What happens if this mind, depends on this mind, but at the same time, one of these minds is creating the other mind, so they seem to be mutually dependent? There may be a problem.

I don't know, but it seems that there may be a problem. So, there is a very interesting and relevant topic that it's coming up very soon and we want to invite people. It's in preparation of the Angel Debates the Devil.

We want to show a poster because some of our friends are gonna be, number one, sharing some classes that Geshe-la has thought about it. And then they are gonna kind of lead a discussion on it. And for that, we have with us here, Niklas Shaw.

He's gonna be leading one of these discussions and we want to have a brief talk about it. Who is the model? Sure, sure, yeah.

When he was younger, I don't know, just kidding. It's Juan. It's Juan.

It's Johnny O. It kind of looks like Johnny O, yeah. Yeah.

Could you tell us a little bit about what are you intending to do with this? And this is what I thought when I hear like these interesting ideas coming up in the Mind Only School, then I felt like, well, in the Angel Debates the Devil, I think one of the jobs of the angel is to clear even the finest maybe mistakes that our inner misunderstanding could have. Why are you involved in this project and what do you hope for you yourself to achieve and for the people to achieve if they attend?

Well, big questions with such little time. I'm involved because I love this book and I'm just helping out with some friends in the Asian Classics Institute. To share or to help kind of promote excitement about this event because Geshe Michael for the first time in several years is gonna be teaching this book again.

And I'm really excited about it because I was going to the live classes of this book and was really into it. It's cool because it's very different from most, probably any other book that I've seen so far that we have in our database. The writer is speaking from the perspective of ignorance or what we can call the devil.

And he's saying, yeah, just think emptiness is this. Just think emptiness is like nothing. But he gets increasingly subtle in his mistaken views.

So he starts explaining emptiness almost as some way that we would accept it. So it gets confusing where we're trying to understand is this the angel or the devil? Is this a correct explanation of emptiness or not?

And the idea is that it's the devil. It's a mistaken idea that we might still be holding onto. So I think it's a really cool text if we are interested in meditating on emptiness and trying to see emptiness.

It's a really cool book to help us refine our understanding of this very subtle and slippery idea. So we just- And this first session is happening on Wednesday, May 15. Yeah, I'm gonna get up at six in the morning for you guys.

So come get up with me. And just quick question, what school is this book written in? Oh, that's interesting.

So far, I believe that it's written from the perspective of the middle way. The angel, the one who's trying to lead us to the correct understanding of emptiness. And then the misunderstandings are from all different kinds of perspectives.

With respect to emptiness. And there's also mistaken explanations of contemplation and meditation. And when you say middle way, which of the two parts do you mean?

I guess you'll have to tune in to see, but- We will have to see. It seems that we have a good friend here that wants to add something to the advertisement. Yes.

Great. So Geshe Michael just looked at me and said, oh my God, you'll have a class tomorrow, Wednesday at 6 a.m. And no, he does not. No, I do.

So it's fine, Geshe-la.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you. What we're doing is, back in the COVID days, we recorded three episodes of The Devil Debates the Angel, Angel Debates the Devil.

[Speaker 1]
And we never released those videos. Oh, exclusive content. So this is- Yes.

Yeah, so this is exclusive content. So we're gonna be releasing those three episodes as a warmup to our event in Mexico. That's wonderful.

That's wonderful. And if you want to come to Mexico, we're gonna be showing you the QR code very soon. And Nick has agreed to lead a deep discussion after watching that previously unreleased content of Geshe Michael's.

Wow, that's amazing. That's amazing. I'm glad we are announcing this.

So now you know in the audience, and I know, so we can sign up for this. Wonderful. And then the next session is gonna be June 11th.

I think Gels is gonna be leading it. And then 6 a.m. as well. And then July the 6th, just after the American wonderful Independence Day, you are gonna be doing it, right?

That's great. The 5th? That's the 6th.

It's gonna be the 6th. So yeah, check it out. Use the QR code.

And sign up for it. Thank you as well. Thank you as well.

So now we're gonna go just to a quick review of general programs that are happening these days. So yeah, as I told you, I'm gonna show the QR code if you wanna sign up for tomorrow's P3 World News event. Then you're gonna get to hear a lot of wisdom, a lot of cool projects coming up, and a lot of good projects that have been accomplished by many of our friends, teachers, and organizers.

We are celebrating the great luck of having teachers and teachings in our life. So you can come online, or if you're in the area, everyone is welcome to come. We'll have, as I say, coffee and snacks for you if you come.

That's our bribe. Yeah, what came all the way from Tucson for the coffee and the snacks. So that's great.

Thank you for coming. I know, just kidding. But now let's go to a review of what's happening these days.

We want to let you know that the Impossible Anger course is still happening here in Sedona. It's gonna keep going until the 21st of this month. And that very same day, there is gonna be a very cool Q&A.

We're gonna show you the QR code if you wanna sign up for that. Everyone is welcome, free of any charge. And I think it's gonna be very interesting.

That's gonna be happening May 21st. Okay, then next, what's happening? In June, YSI is having the Lady Niguma Heart of Gold Foundation Level 1 course the June 1st to June 4th.

And just after that, they're gonna go for the advanced teacher training, Shine Like a Diamond, from then, from the 4th to the 27th. If you're interested on these events, you can find more information in their website, yogastudysinstitute.com. And then they're gonna have the retreat in Japan, where Errol and Benji are gonna be teaching Enjoy the Infinite Free Life.

And that's gonna be June 9th to June 13th. So all the first half of June, YSI events are gonna be booming all over the world. Okay, next one, please.

Then here is what we were talking about, the QR code if you're interested to sign up for the actual event happening July 26th to 28th in Mexico City. By then, we hope that you're gonna see having a lot of context, bless you, with the prerecordings and the, how to say, guidance classes and sessions that our friends are gonna be teaching. But there is a QR code you can start registrating now.

You can come live or online. Next one, please. We're almost ready for the next session.

But first, we want to also encourage you if you have a special affinity to save the planet in the sense of the environmental work, Diamond Mountain is doing a wonderful, wonderful job. They are planting many, many trees and plants. They are reestablishing the environment in order to bring more water and rain to this beautiful retreat center.

I have been participating in some of these sessions. And this last time that I was in Diamond Mountain, I was already able to see the difference in the areas that Sky Harvest has been working on. You can see the nature is getting power, it's getting stronger.

So if you're interested on this, soon we will have some of our friends talking about this. And then in preparation for, that's gonna be in preparation for this event, October 11th to the 20th, where Geshe Michael is gonna be teaching wisdom of Ariana Grande and health practices as well. You can preregister using this QR code.

I think it's gonna be very wonderful. Hopefully we'll see you there. And next one, please.

Just to remind you that also our friends, teacher Sarani and David Sumathi are gonna be teaching the Heart Sutra Retreat in Barcelona in October, October 31st to the November 10th. And finally, remind you also that Geshe Michael is gonna be teaching Steps on the Path in Kyoto, December 1st to December 7th. Look what a wonderful, beautiful picture with the Sakura flowers.

Thanks to Xiaoping and Stanley. I think I was there when the picture was taken. It's very, very beautiful.

Rob Haggerty took the picture? Oh, okay. Rob Haggerty took the picture.

But they were organizing a picture session. So anyways, very, very beautiful. The city is amazing.

I hope one day, if you feel interested, you can make it to Kyoto. Yes, she's excited. That's all for now.

And let's welcome Q&A. Who's leading Q&A? We go back to Younique?

Okay. Okay, thank you very much. That's all for all.

And if you want, if you can, sign up for tomorrow, 6 a.m., P3 World News. See you tomorrow morning, for those of you who come, or not, Saturday at next translation class.

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