Стэнли Чен — Книга 2: Красноречивые слова о сути океана высшего знания (Гьялцаб Чже о «Своде высшего знания» — Абхидхарма-самуччае), занятие 5

[Говорящий 1]
I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Oh, I know.

Thank you. I got it. You're up, Mr. Chen. Now I'm using my computer. Nick, you're still awake. I can't believe it.

I'm hanging in there. Nick, I got some especially exciting questions for you to be awake. There's so much fun.

It's just for a minute. And you're going to give me money if you can't answer. Oh my goodness, the pressure is on.

I'm going to share the screen. I'll pay you rent for using your house for Sean Song's tower. Whoa.

That's never going to happen. Don't let him think about it. OK.

Welcome back to Abhidhamma class. This is the fourth one. This is the fourth one.

I'm having trouble connecting the previous classes because we are just starting this new text, Abhidhamma Samuccaya, by the older brother of Master Vasubandhu, who is Arya Sangha. So I need some help from all of you. So in the last class, class three, back in Kyoto, Geshe-la taught this verses, this verse summary for the whole book.

Dung-ni, dung-ni. He said, dung-ni, dung-ni. Just dung.

Just dung. Oh, dung. And it's generally used for memorizing the core ideas of the whole book or a big chunk of the book so you know what's going on.

It's a summary in verses. And so that's the first question. Here are Tibetan.

Here are some English notes of the key words. And then I found the- Ancient Chinese? I found the ancient Chinese from Dunhuang Cave.

Yay, Dunhuang Cave. And it doesn't match. Whoa.

Oh, well, actually, 60%, 70% of the keywords match. But how we put them together is what I'm having trouble with. So it mentions about definition of things, presentation, order of the things.

And it mentioned about metaphor and the point of the metaphor. And he also mentioned there are four summaries, four samuccayas, in a way, and four discernments. And the truth and the dharma has definite divisions.

And that's the summary of the whole book. Yeah. If we don't understand it, it feels like Arya Sangha is trying to confuse us.

So if any of you have any ideas, I would love to hear. Because I'm working with master words to match the Tibetan, English, and Chinese. And we haven't succeeded yet.

Yeah. Any of you have any ideas, like how to put them together? So you're asking to match the phrases that are in English, phrases that are in Tibetan?

Or if you can make sense with the Tibetan and the English keyword notes, that would be very helpful. Well, the second line is, this will be a presentation of those definitions. So that's the first one.

OK. Did it mention definition of what? Or?

No, it just says presentations. A presentation of those. Semite.

OK. Well, a bigger problem I have is the four summaries of four, what do you call it, discernments. That's coming.

It's coming? Yeah, your whole class is about this. Oh, yeah.

Let's leave it there. It's a long story. OK, maybe that's why it's confusing.

It's a long, long story. OK, OK. Yeah, it's going to be confusing like this.

OK, even after the class? No, after the class, it'll be semi-confusing. OK.

Yeah, the four discernments are line, non-pardonable, sure, yeah. Four things to be done. Uh-huh.

Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, OK.

Yeah, and the truth and the dharma did match, does match the Chinese. So I think we got the verses, but we need a flow to put them together. Yeah.

OK, let's move on, because we'll have some hope from the coming class. It's coming. OK, great.

Question number two, what are the five? So this is interesting, because Gyaltsa Jai is quoting the younger brother, Master Vasubandhu, he spoke the logic of the explanation, which doesn't exist in Chinese. I checked, it seems like it only exists in Tibetan, not even Sanskrit.

And but I found some recent ancient scholar who translated some part of this book into Chinese. So we are quoting five points. You can say five ways of explaining any classic book.

It can apply to any classic book. It's his methodology, basically, of writing commentaries, of teaching any book, which is really useful for all of us who are doing teachings. Anyone remember anything?

Five points? Gyaltsai.

[Говорящий 2]
If it's the five, I think it is. And the first one is purpose.

[Говорящий 1]
Purpose, yes.

[Говорящий 2]
And like a summary. That's the second one, abbreviation.

[Говорящий 1]
Right, abbreviated summary.

[Говорящий 2]
Yeah. And the third one is an explanation of the book.

[Говорящий 1]
Right. Or you can say the words. OK.

Yeah.

[Говорящий 2]
Things relating to the book.

[Говорящий 1]
Or how they relate to each other also, how different parts of the book relate to the relationship. OK.

[Говорящий 2]
Arguments and response.

[Говорящий 1]
Great. Yeah. Yeah, that's it.

That's it. Great.

[Говорящий 2]
No, I don't know.

[Говорящий 1]
Notes are good.

[Говорящий 2]
Just counts, yeah.

[Говорящий 1]
Also in the first step. Yeah. So yeah, it's cool.

So to put it in plain English, when you teach something new to people, tell them what's it for. What can you achieve? It's a sounding thing that Peter always do.

And then a second thing is, then what are you going to teach me? If I want to reach this goal, what am I learning from you? So it's a summary or abbreviated meaning of the book.

And then they want to go deeper. So you take them through the words carefully in details. And then if you want to take them deeper, you can teach them how different parts of the book or chapters of the book relate to each other, basically like the structure of the book in a way.

That's my understanding. And then the last one is some difficult points that is worth some arguments or some questions and some response, some answers. The Chinese is there.

Next one is going to be interesting. This is for Nick, who are trying to be awake. What's the flow of this fight?

Is there any loss of relationship? Anyone want to try? Well, Peter, yeah.

I mean, obviously, when you understand what's needed for you, the point of the purpose, you probably want to have a trailer first. Like how much... He said the first thing, if you know the purpose, then you want a trailer.

You want to see how much effort they have to put into it. The trailer is interesting, you want to know the whole thing. Right.

And then when you have the whole thing, you want to know how you can use it. Basically, how is it... You want to get deeper in how it works.

Great. And then finally, you probably have one or two questions that you can model through in your mind. Beautiful.

Yeah, it's very close to what Master Bandhu said. Very close, very close. Let's see.

The English is a little rough. I'll translate the Chinese. It's more precise.

It says if you hear about the benefits of the book, then you have respect for it. That's why we teach it first. Or the goal.

And then you teach the summary of the whole book. And then you teach the detailed meaning of the words, the wordings. And these two have some order.

First, you do the summary first, then you do the wording. And then you talk about how different parts of the book connect to each other. Then you can see the actual structural order.

The last thing is you talk about difficult points through argument and response so that people understand there is no conflict among different parts of the book. Yeah, that's basically the idea. So I have five sexy Tibetan words for you.

I think this doesn't have a lot. I think Raymarie and Carol. I think.

It's supposed to have a B, too, in this case, right, Ken? Yeah, B-R-G. Sorry, B-R-G.

I think. Yeah, I think. Carol, what is it?

Call and response. Yeah, argument and response. Yeah.

Then some change. Some change. The connection.

How they relate. Yeah. Nice.

Yeah, how they relate to each other. Can I say relationship? But it's too much.

That's OK. Yeah, OK. The meanings of the words.

The meanings of the words. Yeah, meaning of the words. That's the meanings that's included?

The abbreviated meaning. Like summary. Summary.

Like summary. Yeah, OK. Purpose.

Purpose. Yeah, so it's the backward order of the five. Nice.

Yeah. And now is the attempted translation. OK, good.

Can you read it in Tibetan first, Stanley? Yeah. I have to make a comment here.

This mistake is so dangerous that I can see, and I've experienced it in your book so far, the carving has eloquent mistakes in it. So it's going to be a real challenge. So this is not a stupid mistake.

The person has put a very attractive word, important word, possible word, and not correct. And so someone who knew what they were doing has edited this, probably before it was carved, and they put in some really dangerous errors because they're possible but they're wrong. OK, so this is gongpa, which means the true intent of something, but that's not at all what the first one is.

It should be gupa, without the NG, which is a very unusual error. The person who inserted this error was good and dangerously good and wrong. So I think it's going to be like that in this book.

It's going to take some very delicate correcting, the woodblock. So here we go. And by the way, we already threw out one carving, S2 wrong, and now it looks like we're going to have another one.

But this one's more fun because this person is really intelligent. OK, so here we go. Togmar and Nihilinga, nyamba dan dzinpa la.

This dzinpa is swadhyaya. Reciting? Yep, loladzinpa for reciting purposes.

To memorize, to memorize, loladzinpa. So the first thing, it takes a big investment of time to study this book, which is, what, 50 years, we said, or something? We're looking at, how many years, 40 years?

I stopped counting. Yeah, we're looking at maybe 40 years to finish this book. It's a big investment of time to learn a book, and then especially in ancient times, to memorize.

Loladzinpa. OK, so kuppa means, yeah, we want the person to think, assign kind of a reverence for the process of learning this book in class and then going home and memorizing it. And this kuppa means we want them to feel so lucky to have the chance to study this book and memorize it.

And they're not going to invest that kind of time unless it has a kuppa, and not a gongpa. Yeah, right. Gongpa is like true intent.

Deeper intent. I mean, it's possible, that's the problem. It's not correct.

What's the kuppa? Because we know from what we already learned. Purpose.

Yeah. If this book doesn't have a very, very deep purpose, convincing purpose, compelling purpose, if it doesn't have a compelling purpose, I don't know why I should spend 10 years, 20 years studying. OK?

So it's a sales job. Yeah. Gupa jupa ja.

Yeah, we must, at the very outset, we must say, here's why this book is important. Here's what you're going to get out of this book. So naturally that should go first.

OK? Gupa. What's the benefit?

What's the need to study this book? OK? Good?

Yeah, the translation's good. Translation's OK. In other words, they would feel...

Where's the respect? Can you pull it up? Gupa.

Yeah, they have to respect the book enough to want to spend the time. So therefore, the first thing you should isolate is why. Why study the book?

All right. But the person that... Yeah, OK.

Gupa de yupa tse me tokpa. This is a little bit different. We're hoping that our reader or our student will tokpa with an S.

I understand. Will realize, not think. Without an S it means think, maybe.

With an S it means grasp. What? We're hoping that they will use sema.

Perception. Accurate perception. Accurate perception.

To see that the gupa yupa. Oh, there is a... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So the first half of this second sentence says, we're hoping that the potential student will tokpa with their sedma that the gupa is yupa. What's that mean? That it has a perception.

Yeah, we're hoping that they will have an accurate perception, wherein they realize. And the spelling of retoks is so powerful, it cannot be translated as think. It has to be translated as realize.

We want them to realize, with their own personal accurate perception, that gupa yupa. And then... Oh, I'm sorry.

That sema depends on another state of mind. That perception that the book is worth studying depends on another perception. Rak le.

The realization that there's a reason to study this book depends on di dun tokpa. The brief meaning, the summarized meaning? Yeah, they got to have some general idea what the whole book is about.

And then they can have a sema that this is worth something. And then they can have the decision to spend the time. So first they have to...

Is this book worth studying? And give me an elevator pitch. Give me a two-minute description of your...

Give me a two-minute description of your 40-year project, and I'll tell you whether I think I should spend my time on it. So it's interesting. He has a list of points about this book, and the list is backwards.

You mean the first point is the goal to reach? Yeah, the first point should be the last point by the end. I want to study this book.

Oh, well, you better hear a summary of it first, or you're not going to know whether you should study it. Okay, got it? It's a dasa bandhu.

And the fascinating thing, as Stanley alluded to, is that this complex relationship between these two brothers, where the younger brother was going to cut his tongue out, if you remember, and then was given a 20-year project by his brother. And they must have been competitive in some way. They had the same mom, different fathers, different social statuses.

And here's the younger brother advising the older brother about the proper steps to undertake writing one of his greatest classics. The younger brother is telling the older brother how to write one of his greatest classics. You could write a play about this.

Isn't the younger brother, wouldn't he have been older than the older brother because the older brother disappeared?

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That's a point.

[Говорящий 1]
I mean, you got us. The story is the older brother spent time in heaven and lost 50 years. Tim's debilitated.

Okay, next slide. Naked, white. It's okay.

Yeah, okay. DE'ANG TSIG RGYUN STONG PA LA RAG MED PA Yeah, this RAG MED PA over and over means depends on. Okay, depends on.

It's another way of saying B-R-T-E and B-R-T-E to rely upon. RAG MED PA is an ancient word for to rely upon. Getting a nutshell summary of the book, which you need to understand the purpose of the book, that also depends on TSIG RGYUN STONG PA.

Meaning of the words? RGYUN STONG PA, those. Understanding.

Yeah, of grasping the meaning of the words. Okay, here I'll give you a short... You ready?

I'll give you a short summary of this book. You ready? NA BYAS DANG RIN PA DANG RIN GYEL BA NYE GAL NYE So if you don't understand the short presentation, it doesn't help.

So he says the third point here is you better understand what the words mean of the short presentation, or you can't have, I can't understand the short presentation, which you need to understand the purpose of the book. He's going backwards in his life. Okay, got it?

That means you have to study the whole book anyway. Yeah, you have to study the whole book before you know if the book is worthwhile. It's an old Buddhist trick.

Okay, number four. Yeah, in Kuala Lumpur. It's on there on the page.

Lupa is not here. Okay, yeah, you can understand the wording in point three if you understand that the korim is logical. Korim means the order of the presentation.

And that gets into a very deep subject, which we're going to explore this time. The name of the book is Abhidharma Samuccaya. Samuccaya means a collection or a companion.

And there's four samuccayas. The samuccaya is made of four samuccayas. Inside the samuccaya.

Inside the samuccaya, there's four samuccayas. There's four summaries inside the summary. And so there's an order to these four summaries.

And inside of them, they have different points. So is it logical? Is the flow?

So number four is all about flow. Korim means flow. Is the flow gyelwa or not gyelwa?

Yeah, does the flow make sense or not? Does the flow make sense or not? And that depends on samjang.

Means how was the book put together? Was the book put together in a logical flow? If the book has been put together in a logical flow, you can understand the wording of the summary, which will help you understand the purpose.

We covered four things. Now, what's the fifth word? Gag dang dang riba neng min gyewa.

Arguments. So there's different kinds of rikpa, with an S. Yeah, there's different kinds of logic.

When you use the third kind of ramana, what's it depend upon? Authority. Authority.

Authority, yeah. Yeah. Is this book correct?

Can I trust this book? That's one of the types of logical perception. Can I trust this book?

Can I trust this author? Can I trust this speaker? And one of the tests is, one of the tests in that kind of logic is ma chi.

That cold, cold, cold. Internal consistency. Yeah.

Does what they say later match what they said before? And with any human being, that's a pretty good test of their integrity. Does what he says match what he said last year?

Or is it consistent with what he said last year? You see what I mean? And that's the ma chi here.

Ma chi means, it's one of the tests of logic. Is this person's teaching consistent over time? Or do they contradict themselves?

Secondly, is it rikpa internally? Today, forget yesterday. Forget what they said last year.

Does it have rikpa now? Does it make sense? Yeah, does it make sense in the present moment?

A, does it contradict what they said before? That's one kind of logic. Secondly, does what they say this morning or what they say later this morning match?

Does it make sense? Or does it contradict itself? Okay, good?

You can go with me. And that's the process of gyal len. Good thinking.

Argument. Logical argument. And it means internal logical argument of the student.

Did this teacher's statements from the past and the present fit each other? And the student has to debate themselves. And that's gyal len.

Very interesting. Gyal means they have to raise contradictions and len, they have to answer them. So gyal and len, two processes here, gyal dang len.

The good student will raise questions about the teacher and the teacher's teaching, and then they will answer them. Gyal len. Cool?

By the way, what's another word based on this one word for $100? Yes. Gul.

Huh? Gul. Nice, $100.

Yay! That's 33.33 for each girl, okay? That leaves for Papa.

If I was you, I would collect 100 from Rob Haggerty, 100 from Ellie, and 100 from Shelpene. That's what I've been doing, Geshe-la. Thank you for your discipline.

What's the word he said, by the way? Say again? What's the word he said?

What's the answer he gave? I forgot what the answer was. Gul, R-G-O-L, like a debater.

Nga-gul. Nga-gul. Chigul means, nga-gul means, well, chigul means later debater, and nga-gul means earlier debater.

And that's a way to say in Buddhist debate, the person who initiates the debate and the person who answers the debate. They're called earlier arguer and later arguer. So that verb is here.

You see a version of that verb here with gul. B-R-G-A-L is a form of that word, R-G-O-L, which means debater, okay? Len means logical answer.

Denlapapa means, yeah, you have to represent Shepaja. You have to understand the presentation. To really appreciate whether or not you should get into this book, you have to question it in Buddhism.

It's very beautiful. It's wonderful, okay? In Buddhism, the first thing to do if you go backwards in this list is to question the teacher.

And the best students I've ever had were people who were pain in the ass, and they kept asking me questions about stuff. Okay? Cool.

They're curious, and they wanna know why. On that note, boss, can I ask a question? No.

I was thinking about you. I don't know. I mean, if you wanna take the time of this precious book that he only gets once a month.

You know what? Do it, do it, Ben, do it. Oh, I'll do it soon.

That's the problem. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Think the gay verse.

I'm always extraordinary with him here. So this is not three things, right? Ngachi, Rigpa, and Mingelwa, but this is Mingelwa applying to Ngachi and Rigpa?

Like it looks like three things. That's how I would translate it, yeah. But I think it could be argued.

It's an arguable point, yeah. Okay, what would it even be the other way? I just read it wrong, and I just thought of it.

Yeah, I mean, I separated out the Ngachi because it's on my mind. I saw it just yesterday or something. Oh, yeah, it was in the different kinds of a confirmation of authority.

It's a big subject in authority. The three tests of gold, actually. We had it in DCI yesterday, or the day before, and that discusses Ngachi at this point.

And that's what happens if you spend all day with the scriptures. All right, here we go. Back to the book.

Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Oh, that's not your book. That's not your book.

I got to get rid of these guys. Hang on. Oh, that's not up to me.

Brr, I'll be Sam. Yeah, I'll be Sam. I'm sorry, I should have done this before.

Okay. Where are we? Brr.

Oh, there it is, yeah. Okay, here we go. Wait.

Yeah, we didn't finish the last. This one. We did?

No? Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay, good.

Here we go. Okay, Stanley, pick on somebody to read because your reading is too good. Oh.

Oh. You here? Hello?

Nipa la ni dun nga nge shepa nam. I'm on his side. Brr.

Lü nam shak gi sik dun. Je drak tu shepa o. Nice.

This is one of those outlines where they don't tell you what number two is. So he says, point number two has two points. And I always go and get it for you.

It's kap su pape dun shepa means let's get down to the real stuff. Kap su pape means what has come down. Let's get down to the real subject here, okay?

The relevant point. How's that? Oh, okay.

We're going to give a... By the way, we're at the beginning of a 40 to 50 year project. And he says, you can kind of summarize this whole book in dun nga, yeah, in five topics, okay?

And they happen to be the same five. Oh, really? Yeah, they are.

Oh. I think. Oh, okay.

Okay, we'll get there. Okay, we're going to use those same five ideas, like let's talk about the arguments, let's talk about the meaning of the words. Oh.

And then we're going to explain shepa in detail the meaning of the... lu nam shak means the presentation of the entire body of the text. Lu here, body, means body of text, which we also use in English for the whole book, the body of the text, okay?

So we're going to outline the whole 40 year project in a bunch of sections, and then we're going to get into the separate parts, okay, of the body of the text. Keep going. Let's see.

Dumbo, oh, yeah, who's going to read? Anastasia? It's a very popular Russian.

Yeah. Anastasia. Anastasia, okay, you want to try?

Anastasia.

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Yeah. Dumbo lana le, dumbo tan cho di, cho pe domi.

[Говорящий 1]
Nice.

[Говорящий 2]
Don su di la. Then ne di cho ja tokpa yin la.

[Говорящий 1]
Good, nice, very nice. You sound like one of those word refugees. All right.

Dumbo love, the first one, which is kind of overview, has five parts. Yep, and it's the same five parts, actually. Okay, we'll get there.

Okay, okay. Starting to get confusing. Yeah, it is confusing.

Yeah, I'm going to give you the first of the five, which was what? Purpose. Purpose.

You know, why should I study this book? What do I get out of it? Okay, and he says, dumbo tan cho di gupa.

What's the purpose of this scripture, of this commentary? Okay, meaning the Abhidharmasamvichaya. Okay, what's the gupe den ni?

Okay, what can I get out of this book? Okay, and now we're going to get detail answer, all right? And he says, nu su di la ten na, if you lend yourself, nu su, to this book, nu su, directly.

If you rely on this book directly, okay? If you use this particular book to guide your practice, di dzun ja tok, you will talk with an S. Realize.

You will realize it's subject matter, okay? Dzun ja means subject matter, okay? Makes sense.

Well, the uber purpose, the over purpose, the grand purpose, and then he's going to have a bunch of little purposes, okay? The grand purpose is, we want you to understand, we want you to learn the topic that this book is talking about. That's why we wrote the book.

We want you to say, wow, that's great, I understand. So that's why, okay? What's the reason to study this book?

You'll understand. You'll understand the main points in the book. That's the over purpose.

Which is Abhidharma, too. Abhidharma, yeah, Abhidharma. Abhidharma, by the way, is the 700 years of philosophical thought immediately following Lord Buddha.

Okay, and he came at the end, and he wrote a summary of it, okay? Then came the big disruptor. Yeah.

Nagarjuna. Nagarjuna, Arya Nagarjuna. Okay, good.

Okay, all right. Gyepa na, this gyepa means in detail. Gyepa na means if in detail.

And what it means when you're transcending is, would you like some detail? Yes.

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Yes.

[Говорящий 1]
So he said, look, the over purpose of this whole book is to understand all the topics in the book. But there's other short-term goals in the book. And by the way, when you read these goals, you might get more interested in this book, and that's the whole purpose, right?

So he's got a logic to his flow. He's trying to convince us to keep reading his book, about the book, got it? Okay, and I've numbered them for you.

He's got nine different purposes. And these are lesser purposes under the grand purpose. The grand purpose is understand the book, practice it, become Buddha.

And then the lesser purposes that contribute to the grand purpose. Here we go. Who's going to read, Stanley?

You. Let me choose a question. Mr. Wang, do you want to try?

Let's read it together. Vivian. Yay, hi Vivian, we love you.

I forgot to say some things I mentioned to Abhidharmasundari. Yeah, but it's in the house, it's too late. Vivian?

Mm-hmm. Lam, lam, la. Gu cha.

Gu cha. You can kind of have pa.

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Pa, pa.

[Говорящий 1]
Pa, cha. Pa, pa. Chan boy.

Chan boy. Yeah. Rick.

Rick Chang. Yeah, yeah, Rick Chang. Rick Chang.

Rick. Nam. Nam.

Nam. Nam tap. Pa.

Pa. Nam tap, pa. Pa.

Tung kyi. Tung kyi. Lam.

Yeah, nam. Lam, la. Mick.

Pick. Pick, pick. Pa.

Pa. Pa. Pa.

Ya wa tang. Ya wa da. Ya wa da.

Okay, here's nine specific purposes for this book, nine specific purposes to study this book. Dulja. Xiaoping translated dulwa.

Oh, tame your mind, something like that? Yeah, it means object of dulwa. Disciple.

Wild horse. Dulja. Yeah, dulja means disciple, discipline, thing to be disciplined.

It means wild horse. So if the dulja, if the disciple is Thekpa Chenpo, if they belong to the Mahayana class of people, our goal, and by the way, can we say that his earlier ones are maybe more important to him of the nine? I don't know.

But I want those Mahayana students to become khepa. Masters? Masters.

I want them to become masters. What? Of the Thekpa Sum.

The three... Triyana. The three...

Oh, wow. The three tracks. I want them to become masters of the three tracks.

Why? They should understand the three tracks within the path, the path of the three tracks. What are the three tracks here?

I'll tell you what they're not. How's that? Hinayana, Mahayana, and Vajrayana?

Yeah. Hinayana, open Mahayana, and secret Mahayana. That's not the three here.

It's the listeners, right?

[Говорящий 2]
The self-made listeners.

[Говорящий 1]
Listeners, self-made listeners. I never saw this happen. Yeah, yeah.

Okay? All right. All right.

But it's interesting that he wants... Who does he want to master in the three tracks? Mahayana.

The Bodhisattva track people.

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Oh, yeah.

[Говорящий 1]
Wow. Yeah. That's a very...

Cool. Why? Because this book is...

Mahayana Abhidhamma. Oh, I'm sorry.

[Говорящий 2]
Yeah.

[Говорящий 1]
This book is higher way, lower way. Higher. Oh.

Yeah. Whoa. Are you in both?

Yeah. Oh. Yeah.

You would have said that. Right. It's a Mahayana, Hinayana text.

Yeah. Okay? It's a very unusual text.

It's a crossover. It's a historical crossover and a philosophical crossover between the Mahayana and the Hinayana. It is the ultimate crossover book between the two.

Okay? So the first goal, the nine mini-goals, is specifically if the student is Mahayana, we want them to master all of the Nyanas. Why?

Because they're cautious. Yeah. You can't teach people of every capacity if you don't understand all the capacities.

So you might have to learn lower philosophical ideas in case you run into a lower philosophically minded student. Okay? Got it?

Your toolkit should be big. And it takes a lot of time to master the lower teachers. And it's not a waste of time, because you might need someone who needs that.

Okay? Okay. So that's kind of his first of his nine mini-goals thing, after the big goal.

Here's the second mini-goal. Who's going to read it to me? Chloe, please.

You want to come up? Yeah. You can sit on this side.

It'll be easier for you. Okay. You can move this.

Helper.

[Говорящий 2]
Helper. Helper.

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Helper.

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Helper. Helper. Helper.

Helper. Helper. Helper.

Helper. Okay. Helper.

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You want to leave her up here and pick on her more? What's the English? Let's finish this sentence and make her do more.

Yeah, let's do that. Okay, good. Helper.

Helper means normal, as opposed to special. Helper means normal as opposed to special. Does this mean like if we, in English, would say, oh, that person's special, they're at, like, in a sarcastic way?

No. This phelpa means the great majority of disciples. Kind of like medium-range disciples, I guess.

Medium-capacity disciples, dulja, disciples. Who? Nyenta and Rangsangye.

Listeners and self-made Buddha disciples. Lower two tracks. He already covered the person who's on the higher track, because they're on all three tracks.

And the other one, Rikchen means that type. Rik here means class or type, personality type. If they're lower personality type.

By the way, what distinguishes them normally is they are working for themselves, and they're not particularly working for others. So let's say we have students who are that type of student. We still are responsible for them.

Namkhyang, di la lap, misspelled elegantly. Okay, and it's, and you know, this really scares me. Okay, this is the lap in Jinla, which means black, or this means wave on an ocean.

And it's a word. It's a real word. It's an elegant word.

It's an unusual, important word. And it's totally wrong here. It should be slaps, which means to study.

Okay, if they study this book, okay, not if they're a wave on the ocean of this book. They will, by the way, that's the lap in Jinla, which means blessing. So it's a difficult word.

Again, rang gi lam la. They will become khyepa in rang gi lam, in their own teaching. Me, the Mahayana guy, has written a book from the Hinayana point of view to help the poor Hinayana guys who are not too good at their Hinayana point of view.

Okay, it's a really, it's a funny thing to say. I wrote a book so that you guys who won't agree with it will understand your system better. Okay, that's very Nagarjuna.

Yeah, isn't that what he did in the 60 verses again, pretty much? That's what the 60 verses is. You're totally right.

Let's make Chloe do one more sentence because she's so good at it. You got the cursor. Cursor.

[Говорящий 2]
PHEG PA CHEN PO'I DE NYID LA MA THOB PA THANG LO PA THAG PA THANG THOB PA THANG DE SOM SA WA'I MA ZHUG PA NANG LA CHUG KYIS There's a problem there.

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There's something wrong. It's two keys in a row and one of them is wrong. I see.

[Говорящий 2]
RANG PHYI CHEN NI MA NOR WA'I CHEN NAS War.

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War. MA NOR war.

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MA NOR war. CHEN NAS THAG PA CHEN PO'I LA ZHUG PA THANG Nice, nice, nice.

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Nice reading. Thank you. Okay, thank you.

Thank you. Yay. PHEG PA CHEN PO'I DE NYID The great...

What? Mahayana. Mahayana.

Right. DE NYID means basket. PITAKA.

PITAKA. Like tripitaka. Tripitaka.

Okay, now he says, now it's interesting. Point number, goal number three, he goes back to the Mahayana people. We already covered the Mahayana people.

But now he says, by the way, there's a subcategory of Mahayana people. Who are they? Well, there's a lot of stuff Matopa.

There's a lot of stuff they didn't get. There's people who say they're Mahayana who don't get most of the Mahayana. So I got to, that's another reason why I love this book.

Okay. Or they even have a Manto. They even read some of this stuff.

Okay. Either they didn't get there, or they misunderstood it when I taught it before, Mahayana. Or the worst one is the Texan guys.

Doubters. Doubts. They have doubts.

And in Tibetan, the verb is to eat a doubt or to chew on a doubt. Sala means to chew. Okay.

So there's people who are chewing on their doubts. Therefore, they don't really take Pachambo Lanjuk. They don't really enter the Mahayana.

They say they're Mahayana, but either they don't get it, or they misunderstood it, or they have doubts about it, and they never really got into the Mahayana. Mashup. Mashuppa nama.

This KYIS shouldn't be here. And it's a very odd... Somebody went through this and corrected it.

Like they were talented and wrong. Okay. Chökyi.

Now he's talking about the tsenyi, meaning the qualities or the characteristics, not definition here. It doesn't mean definition here. It means qualities.

Rang or chi. The things that make a thing a thing. Rang or chi.

Rangchen and chitsen? Rangchen and chitsen. Whose text do we have it in?

Adam's.

[Говорящий 2]
Adam's.

[Говорящий 1]
Was it Adam? Yeah. The thing as an idea.

Car. Car, quotation marks, as an idea. And then the thing you're going to drive home.

Right. Hopefully. Okay.

Rangchen. So this means, I want them to understand the concept, and I want them to understand the applications, the general ideas and the actual things. Rangchen tsenyi.

And I don't want them to know one. Be mistaken about it. And I don't want them to be mistaken about it.

Dene. I will teach them in an unmistaken way about the general and specific qualities of all things. And then they will truly, thekpa, chenpo la, njupa.

And to Mahayana. I'm going to take care of pseudo-Mahayanas. Okay, cool.

Yeah. All right. We still got some time at home.

Yeah. Yes, Shantana. We should go all night.

All right. Oh, so the chu is just things here, like the rangchen and chitsen of things. So chuky without the S?

Yeah, it's a common expression. You say the, you can say the rangchen of chu and the chitsen of chu. Got it.

You got what I mean? Yep, thank you. Okay, good.

Nice question. It seems like that's the Abhidhamma thing, to divide everything. Well, it's a very, the second school, it probably leaked into the first school mostly.

Oh, okay. All right. Who's going next then?

Linzi, please. Linzi! You want to come over here?

Okay. You do the cursive, okay?

[Говорящий 2]
suk su sin kyang gongpa na sop kyi tenpay do gey pring dupa sok to na go mongpa gyurwa nanpa, what? Nanla, sorry. Teng gakpa tang.

Gakpa tang.

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Very nice reading. You should stay and do one more, okay? Now, when you add the word sin to a verb, you guys remember?

Past tensilizer. Already? Yeah.

Now, in the case of a person who has already shoot. Already entered the Mahayana. They're actually already into the Mahayana, but we taught them not so, not so, not so gongpas.

Various, various, various types of meditation. Yeah, we taught them very many different concepts. And I'm going to skip to the second line word because it's so cute, it reminds me of you.

Go becomes mongpa. Their head gets so confused and deluded. Yeah, they're already into Mahayana, but when you hit them with a lot of great ideas, they're going, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Go mongpa means, they're just like, whoa, whoa, whoa. When you get those ideas, doro geng jing dupa. You can say paro du chenpa geng jing dupa.

Yeah, the long present pranamita, 100,000 verses. The medium present pranamita, 18,000, 20,000, 25,000 verses. Or the dupa, only 8,000 verses, et cetera.

When they turn those great presentations with zillions of great ideas in them, especially about emptiness. Go mongpa is a word that means like you're very drunk or something. It's like, ah, go mongpa.

They get all go mong, you know? Their head gets all mongpa, okay? And we're hoping that we can pendok.

Here's the verb pendak. We got to give them a hand. We got to lend them a hand.

Pendakpa means, you know, we got to reach out to them in their drunken confusion and help them out, okay? These guys already shook. They already entered the Mahayana, but they're totally confused by...

It's really the breadth of the Mahayana is too confusing. So we have to reach out and grab them before they drown. Okay?

That's purpose number four. Here goes purpose number five from Lindsay. You are on time, boss.

[Говорящий 2]
Rang don.

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Drang dun.

[Говорящий 2]
Drang dun. Gido de la ga.

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Ga.

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Dra ji shin du zin pa kak ne. Kak ne.

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Yeah.

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Tong pa ni ki pa wei krak pa. Krak pa.

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Yeah.

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Tong wa tong.

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Nice. Very nice. Really nice.

You have some talent for it. Here we go. Turn me.

All right. Very good. Yeah.

Yeah. So drang dun means, it has to be interpreted. Like the Buddha said, kill your father and kill your mother.

What he meant was, be willing to leave the home life if you have a higher calling. Jesus said that. His mother came and said, why can't I sit with my son?

He should come out outside and meet his family. He said, I am with my family. I don't need to go outside.

Because he was sitting with his disciples. He told his mother, I am with my family. You don't have to ask me to go outside.

So she's like, drang dun means, it's not to be taken literally. There are scriptures meant to be taken figuratively. So that's drang dun.

Those scriptures, do de, which are to be taken figuratively, not literally. Some people zimba them. They take them, dra gyi shimpa.

Exactly how they sound. Literally. They take them literally.

Oh, I better find a knife. That one. Because I'm supposed to kill my mom and my father.

So it's a huge mistake. Those people who, they got teachings which were meant figuratively. And by the way, there's an interesting presentations about the difference between figurative and literal and figurative.

And there's very interesting distinctions in Tibetan. So anyway, dra gyi shimpa means literally. And not to be interpreted.

Dra gyi shimpa. We have to cock those people. Or else they'll murder their parents.

Yeah, cock means we have to stop them. We have to stop those people who are misunderstanding what was meant figuratively, and they're taking it literally. Because those kind of people will chakpa jikpa if they hear about tongpa nyi.

They'll get scared if they hear the real view of emptiness. F-ing freak out. Chak means terrified.

Jik means frightened. Chak means terrified. When they hear about emptiness, and they think the whole world is nothing, from an authoritative source, they'll freak out.

So we got to bangwa that freak out. We got to prevent that kind of a freak out. That's another reason why I wrote this book.

Geshe-la, are these points by Gyeltsenji or Arya Sanyin? Well, it's Gyeltsenji's commentary, but if you follow the root text, you'll see he's following it. Oh, I see, I see, I see.

But I would say this is Gyeltsenji's comments. Do we have time for one more? We already have time for one more.

Let's do one more for good luck.

[Говорящий 2]
All night, all night, all night. All night, all night, all night.

[Говорящий 1]
I met some guy in Beijing, actually, who said if you teach all night, I'll invite a cook from the Hilton or something? Some five-starred, yeah. To make a ginseng pizza for you from an ancient ginseng.

And I said, I'm into it. And we gave up around three o'clock. But it was a wonderful night.

You can guess it's Shanghai. Okay, Lindsay's going to give us one more.

[Говорящий 2]
Du du pa. Du du pa la ga wey do ngor.

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Ngor.

[Говорящий 2]
Ngor. Du le dong tong min. Ji nam rong ge war she pa nam dor du te ten pa tong.

[Говорящий 1]
Nice. This is the do in sutra, but it also means brief. Brief.

So dor du pa means brief. Some people, gawa. Some people do that, they like it.

They enjoy a brief presentation. They're like, just give me the short book. Some people like a brief presentation.

To them, lor. Okay, very delicate mistake here. Whoever made these mistakes was good.

He had dor for lor. Okay, really difficult. Lor means to them.

Okay, to those kinds of people who like brief presentations, do le dong. You should she pa dor du. You should tenpa them dor du.

You should explain it briefly. Yeah, give them a brief presentation for God's sake. They want brief, then brief, okay?

Okay, but you can take the sutras that discuss the meaning and the names and the synonyms in great detail, and, what do you call it, abbreviate it? Abbreviate it for them. What do you call it in text?

Condense. Condense it for them. What do you call it?

Such notes. All right, make it easy for them, okay? Now, I'll give you 10 cents.

If you can guess the next one. The long one. Yeah, someone said a long one.

Then you should give them a long one, have you got it? But Stanley's going to translate seven, eight, and nine. Okay, Stanley's going to translate seven, eight, and nine for next time.

Okay. Did we finish the whole sentence? We did, yeah.

DUR TE BSTAN PA, DUR TE BSTAN PA goes together, and it means to present briefly, in brief. DUR TE BSTAN PA means give them their presentation in little chunks, little pieces.

[Говорящий 2]
Instagram.

[Говорящий 1]
And they'll be happy.

[Говорящий 2]
Instagram.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah. TikTok. Yeah, Instagram.

I'm waiting for the day when you can't say TikTok because there's not enough time. Thank you so much, Kishi Michaels. Thank you, Stanley.

[Говорящий 2]
Thank you, everybody. Thank you, live translators. Please stay tuned, especially members of Wordsmith's Mixed Nerds Army of Sputnik translators.

Thank you so much, everybody. See you soon. Stay tuned, this, that channel for Wordsmith.

[Говорящий 1]
Thank you, Word, for doing this. You're welcome. Wait, Geshe-la, can I ask you a question?

Uh-oh. Yeah. Get on the side of there.

Can you give me a doordoo, ten la bop of a Daini grammar case? Yeah, I would love to. It's an oddity of the locative.

Yeah. Which means, I like to say, we elected him as president. It's the as, it's the as.

It means for the basic object to become a specific form of that object, oftentimes with people, okay? Or like that, okay? How's that?

That's Daini. Yeah. As, the preposition as, in the sentence, we elected him as president, yeah.

And which in Tibetan has to be a logarithm, has to be a postposition, yeah. Easy. Okay, see you later.

Bye, Geshe. Good luck on your class. You got it.

I don't know what you're doing, but they're sure learning well. It's kind of frustrating for me. I don't know what I'm doing either, again.

Yay, that must be true. Goodbye. Bye.