Бен Крамер — Книга 2: Драгоценность истинной мысли (Геше Йеше Вангчук о Дхармакирти), занятие 7

[Speaker 2]
I want to avoid boring people to tears. I want to try to corner you on some bibliography questions.

[Speaker 1]
Who, me, boss? You're talking to me, boss?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, God bless. Any time. I don't have anything.

[Speaker 2]
I might do it during my class, but if you want to.

[Speaker 1]
Let's save your time and let's save your class time. And now see what?

[Speaker 2]
Well, maybe. It's when I have you. I mean, we could hold off maybe till the next class.

Yeah, give me a couple days. Immediately bored out of their minds.

[Speaker 1]
I've been disabled on my screen sharing. Well, I should just go to my screen, right? They can't see anything?

[Speaker 3]
I bet it's about to get picked.

[Speaker 1]
OK.

[Speaker 3]
Can we fix the lighting on Geshe Michael? His face is in shadow.

[Speaker 1]
Come on, it's better that way.

[Speaker 3]
No, it's not.

[Speaker 1]
You're going to get the gleam from the top of my head if you put more light on it, it will slide.

[Speaker 3]
No, actually, that's what we do see is the gleam on the top of your head, and not your facial.

[Speaker 1]
You're laughing, Sugeng, but you're going to be that way later, OK? I'm telling you. I will be very proud.

Thank you. All right, let me see. Is that it?

We got it, Ben?

[Speaker 2]
Yes.

[Speaker 1]
That's it. Let's go to this term. So here's a progress report for this term.

OK.

[Speaker 3]
Spread it out. Spread it out.

[Speaker 1]
Or make it wider. How about here? How about?

Sorry? At the bottom, if you click on that. Oh, OK, got it.

Oh, that doesn't show up on mine. Yeah. I can do this.

Let's see. I can cut the video. Let me see here.

I like something.

[Speaker 2]
I do, too.

[Speaker 1]
That's better. OK, all right. I'll figure out the cursor later, OK?

Ben, when you cursor.

[Speaker 2]
It's fine. We can see it well when you're sharing your screen. It's pretty easy to see.

[Speaker 1]
OK, great. So here's our progress report. We've been doing ancient biographies of Ben's author, who is a famous logician.

And in Buddhism, clear thinking is at a big premium. So to understand how you can prove an idea and the rules for proving an idea are very important in Buddhism. So his book started about 1,500 years ago.

A very great thinker outlined how the mind works. And it's very exciting for nerds of Buddhism. And our plan for this term is to do, again, you guys are lucky because you got to the history class today.

We're just telling his personal story. And then the logic comes next class, and you would have a headache. So we're just going to be talking about his life story.

And it's a beautiful story of how he became a great master. So this project is estimated, can the ears still hear me? For eight years, this will be an eight-year project.

He started, this is his second book in the last five years. So his first book took five years. And now he started this book.

And that will be an eight-year project. And so we plan out the publication, Rosa and Ali work. They are working even five years ahead, sometimes three years ahead, to get the books out.

So we project that Ben's classes will finish in January of 2024 for his new book. Xiaoping's partner's book is scheduled to be finished in 2052. Sorry, 46.

26 years it will take to finish her partner's book.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
And we have an option that we recently found a biography of the author of our book. So this new book, who explains the ancient Indian book, was written by a very esteemed Tibetan Geshe who passed away about 15 years ago. And he was a great, great master of this topic.

And he was the teacher of one of my teachers. And he sent the manuscript out of Tibet over the Himalayas to John Brady's team. And they input it.

And I was the editor. It's an explanation of this ancient book from 1,500 years ago. And it was a big hit, a two-volume book.

I think it might be a peer review. And then he died in a car accident, the author. But we found John Brady's team found a biography of the author recently, about two months ago.

So we have it now. It's been input. It's been preserved.

It's in the database. And we'll be working from this manuscript. It's very exciting.

I wanted to test Ben's knowledge of the title of the biography of that author, your author's biography that you're going to spend the next eight years with. So we have a modern author writing an explanation of a book from 1,500 years ago on thinking clearly, or states of mind in meditation and things like that. So Ben, you read.

And Ali's going to critique your pronunciation.

[Speaker 2]
GNYEN NA BA, GNYEN NA BA.

[Speaker 1]
Start the first line.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, Geshe Yeshe Wangchuk Gyi Rang Nam.

[Speaker 1]
Good. Geshe is Geshe. That's the technical spelling, Geshe.

His personal name was Yeshe Wangchuk, which means what, Ben?

[Speaker 2]
Wangchuk, the guy with a lot of cows.

[Speaker 1]
And it's the translator.

[Speaker 3]
OK.

[Speaker 1]
Somebody asked, I think it's Rich in Wisdom. I think it's Nick. I'm not sure.

So Wangchuk means Ishvara, which means the god of India. And so his personal name was God of Wisdom, Yeshe Wangchuk, the author, the modern author who did the commentary. And what's Rang Nam, Ben?

[Speaker 2]
Um, I mean, it's his story? Yeah, I'm going to say it. He wrote it.

It's an autobiography.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, Rang Gyi Namtar. It's an abbreviation for Rang Gyi Namtar. It means his autobiography.

So we have located his personal writing of his life. And we found it. John found it.

It was input by the refugees. And it was shipped here to our translation group. OK, here's the long title of his autobiography.

Go, Ben. You're still checking.

[Speaker 2]
Gyi Ngawa Nyona Sha Ra Rang Gyi Rangchen Drupay Tam.

[Speaker 1]
Not Rangchen.

[Speaker 2]
Rangchang Drupay Tam.

[Speaker 1]
Drupay Tam. This is a tough subtitle, OK, Ben?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
It's terribly misspelled. So that helps a lot. So Gyi Ngawa is a word you guys don't know.

[Speaker 2]
It's true.

[Speaker 1]
It's a very funny Tibetan word that you guys haven't learned yet. And it means Mr. Lazy Bones. And he's calling himself with modesty.

He was a great, great star. In fact, he was in charge of all Buddhism in Tibet. He was a great, great scholar.

And what do you call it when you speak of yourself in humility?

[Speaker 2]
Self-discouraging.

[Speaker 1]
Self-deprecating. Self-deprecating. He says, this is the biography of Mr. Lazy Bones, OK?

And then he tries to write the Sanskrit. Or someone mistyped it. Someone wrote it wrong.

It should be this, OK, Ben? What's that?

[Speaker 2]
Dnyane Shvara.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, which means God of wisdom in Sanskrit.

[Speaker 2]
Dnyane Shvara.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, it's Ishvara. When Ishvara meets Dnyana, wisdom meets God, the I changes to E. So when you connect those two words, it has to be Dnyane Shvara instead of Dnyane Ishvara.

And they messed it up completely. Because no one has studied Sanskrit in Tibet for 1,000 years. OK, 600 years.

Then rang gi rang means I'm going to do it to myself. I'm going to do it to myself. Rang gi, by me, to myself.

And sang duwa, our human computer, who you guys met at the hotel. Word? We got sang duwa in there?

Isn't that related to alchemy? Get out of here. I finally found something you don't know.

Like a little, like a letter or something, right? Give it up. Give it up.

You're making it worse. I was trying to show off. Irritating.

No. Sang means an ant nest. OK, word?

You ready? Sang du. Sang du means to dig up an ant nest.

And it's a colloquial Tibetan for to expose another person's faults, to show their dirty laundry. We say show their dirty laundry. And in Tibetan, you say you dig their ant nest.

It means you show all their secret faults. It's called digging out their ant nest. Now, rang gi rang, Ben.

[Speaker 2]
I mean, I'm going to dig out my own ant nest?

[Speaker 1]
It's extraordinary. He says, I'm going to hang out my dirty laundry for you guys. Mr. Lazy Bones is going to show his dirty laundry to the world, which is very, he doesn't have any dirty laundry. He was a great, great lama. And he's just being modest in his thing. He called his autobiography Showing My Dirty Laundry to the World by Mr. Lazy Bones. It's a very beautiful title. And tam means, it's a beautiful word that means discussion with friends, a discussion with friends. So he has, the title of his autobiography is, Ben?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Take your time and make it beautiful. I want to impress my mom. He's a great man.

[Speaker 2]
Your mom bought me tickets to visit Sarah maybe 15 years ago. And I thank her.

[Speaker 1]
Yay. Yay. He paid for his airplane ticket to the monastery 15 years ago.

He still remembers.

[Speaker 2]
Of course I do.

[Speaker 1]
Probably wants to go again. I don't know.

[Speaker 2]
I don't know if I remember anything I learned there, but I remember that she sent me.

[Speaker 1]
OK, we want the title. Take your time. Take your time.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, exposing before friends this ant's nest of my own life, this one who is called the Lord of Wisdom.

[Speaker 1]
Mr. Oh, yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, this lazy bones known as the Lord of Wisdom.

[Speaker 1]
This lazy slob known as the, it's a beautiful title. And that's what he has entitled his own autobiography. And he was a great, he was the best scholar in Tibet.

And he was, even the government appointed him in charge of all Buddhism in Tibet. So he was, is this possible, Tim, that my, OK, here we go. That's not where I want to start.

Let's see here. Oh, OK. So then we're going to work on the biography of the person from 1,500 years ago.

And here's where we're going to start, OK? So please read. And Christina Kasica is going to critique your pronunciation, OK?

[Speaker 2]
Please start.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
SIG PU THO BAR MDOD PA NA Perfect?

[Speaker 1]
Excellent. Christina says perfect.

[Speaker 2]
OK. I tried to hit that retroflex hard for her.

[Speaker 3]
Good. Thank you, Ben.

[Speaker 1]
OK. NAM NGE is an abbreviation for TSE MA NAM NGE, Pramana Vinaya Chaya, which is?

[Speaker 2]
Sustaining Accurate Perception.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, an ancient commentary on clear thinking.

[Speaker 2]
By Dharamaltara.

[Speaker 1]
Dharamaltara. The nickname of that ancient commentary is Dharamaltara, which means Chod Chok.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, the highest thing.

[Speaker 1]
The highest thing in the world. And by the way, that's the name of the author. So that ancient book is called Dharamaltara's Commentary on Clear Thinking, OK?

So Chod Chok is his personal name, OK? So we're going to have a quotation from a commentary on an ancient book of logic written by somebody named Highest Thing in the Universe. Here's his personal name.

I guess he was also a Lazy Bums, probably. And his personal name became the name of the book. The book became named, so people call it, Mr. Highest Thing in the Universe's Book on Logic, OK?

And we have a quotation from it. We're studying the life story of the original author 1,500 years ago. And here we have another snippet from his life.

So we're trying to, in each of our translations, we're trying to tell the story of the author from ancient sources, because nobody's done that, OK? Here we go. Go, go.

Oh, sorry. What's Lopan been?

[Speaker 2]
The master, Acharya.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, and Chokyi Longpo?

[Speaker 2]
Is a Dignaga.

[Speaker 1]
Nice. Ancient logician, teacher of the one who wrote our book. So we've been studying the teacher's life.

He was staying emba, or emba.

[Speaker 2]
Alone in a secluded place.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, in a poop, in a bean.

[Speaker 2]
At the peak of a mountain, perhaps.

[Speaker 1]
Poop means cave, OK? He was staying in a cave. You know this story.

Shik here means a, a cave. And he was making tsumba about his gompa.

[Speaker 2]
He was making tsumba about his meditation, making tsumba. Trying hard. Making great efforts at his meditation practice.

[Speaker 1]
Nepal means he was hanging out in a cave in the Himalayas, working hard on his meditation. And Ben, tell my mom and her friends the story. Why, it says here, he got discouraged.

Can you tell us why?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, so he, he sat down to do his practice and to write a book to collect all of the works that he had written to help people. He wrote the first words on the wall to start to make the commitment to perform this great book that would collect all of his earlier works on clear thinking. And he, having written this on the wall, having committed, made a prostration to those who had come before him and a commitment to do the work.

He went out to get his evening meal. When he returned, the words were gone. And so he rewrote the words again.

And when he went out the next night, again, the words disappeared. I believe this happened three times. And on the third time, he wrote again and he added more words.

He said, whoever is erasing these words, you should stop. If you, three things, if you, if you think somehow you can erase these words, you can't because I wrote them from memory so they can never be erased. Also, there's one I'm forgetting, but he says.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, he said, if you think they're, what was it?

[Speaker 2]
He said, if you think they're wrong, then debate me.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, he said, if you think this writing is wrong somehow, then show yourself and let's debate openly. And there was a second one, I forget.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, right. So suddenly before him appears this wild eyed Yogi who disagreed with him and wanted to fight him off and stop him from teaching. And they had a mighty debate.

And of course he was the greatest debater of his time. And so they debated and debated and Dignaga won the debate by the ferocity of his logic. But the other guy was mad.

And so he breathed fire and destroyed all of Dignaga's stuff. Everything he had prepared for his extended retreat to sit and write this, what would become a classic. So he was bummed.

He said, I came here for the sake of all beings to convince people of truth. And I couldn't even help one guy. And this one guy who I was gonna try and convince, not only was he not convinced, but he just got real mad.

And all I've done is inspire affliction in him. And I give up, I can't do it. And I'm gonna take this piece of chalk that I use to write this and I'm gonna throw it up in the air.

And so help me when it hits the ground, I give up on all beings. And he threw the chalk up in the air and it didn't hit the ground, but instead there it was in the hand before him of Manjushri, the Lord of wisdom. And Manjushri said, hey, my son, don't do it.

Don't give up. I will take you into my own care as long as it takes to reach the goal of caring for all beings. And so it is said then that he followed him away and Thich Nhat Hanh stayed with Master Manjushri.

And we don't know what happened then except that we do have this book. So this is our exciting cliffhanger.

[Speaker 1]
Yay. One detail that's gonna be important tonight if we get that far is that this God of wisdom, this angel who caught the chalk so it wouldn't hit the ground. He said, I will help you until you saw topa, saw topa, saw topo, saw dumbo topa.

[Speaker 2]
Achieve that saw dumbo, the first level? Yeah. Yeah.

Until you see... Truth directly, ultimate reality.

[Speaker 1]
The ultimate reality directly. I'm taking care of you, don't worry. I'll stay with you.

That's important for tonight, okay? All right, here we go then. Korwa le yin jung, which means korwa le ngen jung.

You know ngen jung, it's the same thing.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, renunciation, so...

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, he gave up on the world. He said, people are too difficult to teach. This guy come and erase the book that I'm trying to help him with.

ngen jung ne, sem jen gyi dun le shen du chok. shen du chok means he turned away from the needs.

[Speaker 2]
Tending to the needs of all beings.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, he said, I give up on taking care of all living beings. I'm just gonna chik bu drul, chik bu drul.

[Speaker 2]
Work towards my own freedom only.

[Speaker 1]
I'm gonna get to a personal nirvana and F you all these other people. There's too much trouble to help other people. I'm just gonna work on my own nirvana.

He made a commitment. Then, kye chak de la. Oh, you gotta read.

And Tim is checking you.

[Speaker 2]
Kye chak de la.

[Speaker 1]
Make a mistake sometimes for his, so he has to tell you what to do.

[Speaker 2]
Sure, I will accidentally do that. Kye chak de la, pa pa jam pel jun ne bu, kye wo ngen pa je su tun par sem tar wey shen du chok. Shen gi wang du gyur de sem chen kun la fen par ne pey sem.

Oh, thank you. Ye shen du chi chir tong nyom su je che sung pa tong.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. You have about 10 minutes. Kye chak de la.

[Speaker 2]
Then at that moment.

[Speaker 1]
Pa pa jam pel.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, the Lord Manjushri, the Aryan Manjushri.

[Speaker 1]
Jun is the ancient word for pep.

[Speaker 2]
Pep. Pep, came.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, he came. And he said, poo.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, son.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, my son. I'm gonna go backwards from darwa, okay? Darwa means chicken, meaning a coward.

I think darwa means a coward, okay? Don't be a darwa like kye wo ngen pa, like sem chen ngen pa.

[Speaker 2]
Like the, what are, dark beings or?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, like bad people. Like, don't be a spiritual coward. What's that all about?

[Speaker 3]
Got it.

[Speaker 1]
Don't be a spiritual coward like those lousy people, okay? Je se tunpa means don't fit their kind of behavior. Don't give up on people when they hurt you.

Don't give up on people when they hurt you. Don't follow that model, okay? Shen wang, you know, don't get shen wang to that attitude.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, don't be overpowered.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, don't be overpowered by that attitude. I want you to panpa seng kun.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, yeah, benefit all beings.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, and you have that sim.

[Speaker 2]
You have that.

[Speaker 1]
That has the nupa.

[Speaker 2]
State of mind that has the ability to serve all beings.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, you personally have the power to serve all living beings if you want to, okay? Chi chen tang nyong. Chi chen tang nyong.

What are the four immeasurable? Again, Mama, can you say that again?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, I mean, I, you know, why?

[Speaker 1]
Upecha.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, well, I mean, equanimity, but why would you have to have? Why not have equanimity?

[Speaker 1]
No, no, it's not that. This equanimity is a bad word. Why you don't care?

Why you don't have love for anybody? Why you just leave everybody, okay? If this tang nyong means to give up on somebody, okay?

This tang nyong means to give up on people. Why you want to give up everybody, okay? Why you want to act like those people who give on other people that model?

Why don't you be more noble, okay? This is the advice of the angel, okay? Sungpa.

What's Sungpa?

[Speaker 2]
He said.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, the angel said. You guys got about five more minutes. You get to hear.

Please read. We'll take a break for a moment. Hang on, I got to get the car keys out.

Okay, word. Can you criticize Ben roundly? And I'm going to make this sentence shorter.

Okay. Go ahead, Ben.

[Speaker 2]
Lendu.

[Speaker 1]
Try to say it straight for him.

[Speaker 2]
Lendu chomdende khorwani separ kaway dungel luma tang dembe sembar minula By the way, non-refugees type in the ancient letters in Roman and English letters, so it makes it easier for people to read.

[Speaker 1]
And there's a lot of silent letters, unfortunately, for spelling, for spelling reasons. Okay, good. Lendu, okay.

What's that mean? Lendu. Nick, you got it?

Lend, as in time, right? Dungel instance.

[Speaker 3]
In response. In response. To answer.

[Speaker 1]
As a response. In response. This Lend needs to give an answer.

In, he addresses Manjushri as chomdende. Ben.

[Speaker 2]
O'Conqueror.

[Speaker 1]
O'Conqueror. This khorwa is ka is sepa. Hard to bear.

Yeah. I can't put up with this. I can't put up with this.

I can't stand it anymore, okay? I'm getting duma duma dungel.

[Speaker 2]
Ben? I'm sorry. Many pains, much suffering.

[Speaker 1]
Too much trouble. Sempa means sepa. Sempa is the ancient word for sepa.

Minu. Minu.

[Speaker 2]
Minu, I have no patience for this.

[Speaker 1]
I can't stand this anymore. I just can't, I can't put up with it anymore. Sempa also means a bean, so be careful.

Don't say, I can't do the beans. The vegetable beans. It's spelled the same.

Okay, so be careful with that. This is what, when people don't translate it well, they look it up in a dictionary, it says beans, and they say, he said to the angel, I don't eat. Now you get, you see it everywhere, okay?

Okay, here we go. Ben, you're on again. We're checking you.

[Speaker 2]
Zengyang dampa mayembe. Kewo lak gawe yowar. Checheng ketongyang dakla.

Jengi malap nga de la. Chi shik gi chi she sumba dang.

[Speaker 3]
Good.

[Speaker 1]
My mind is dampa mayembe. I'm sorry, my mind is gawa towards Semchens who are dampa mayembe. This is Deyaga speaking.

My mind is gawa towards people, kewo, who are dampa mayembe.

[Speaker 2]
Who are impure?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, yeah. I'm attracted to hanging out with people with bad attitude. Okay, okay.

Yowa, my mind yowa.

[Speaker 2]
Who moves towards that?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, I keep getting distracted because I actually am attracted to bad friends, okay? And I can tongkyo.

[Speaker 2]
I can see you.

[Speaker 1]
I can see an angel face to face. But if you don't jengi la.

[Speaker 2]
If you don't bless me.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, chi chi, chi chi.

[Speaker 2]
From your precious lips?

[Speaker 1]
No, it means what am I gonna do?

[Speaker 2]
Oh, what am I gonna do?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, okay. So Dignaga says, I can see you. And that's kind of odd because normally I'm attracted to bad people.

But if you don't bless me right now, I don't see how I'm gonna finish the book, okay? Like that. So you have enough time to hear the punchline.

Here we go. Please read, and Xiaoping's gonna check your pronunciation. Please make two mistakes for her.

[Speaker 2]
Lendu, boo. Jis, si, sa, ma, top, ki, par, du, kye, ki, ke, wei, she, nyen, ni, nga, ni, to, she, sung, te, mi, nang, bar, gyur, to.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, she says that.

[Speaker 3]
Yay.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
All right. Now you know Lendu, Mr. Kravitz.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, then the Lord said back to him.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, the angel says back to him, poo.

[Speaker 2]
Poo, sun.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, until you sato.

[Speaker 2]
Until you reach the level, until you reach the first stage of bodhisattva.

[Speaker 1]
And you see?

[Speaker 2]
The ultimate reality directly.

[Speaker 1]
Until you see emptiness directly, which is our big spiritual, what do you call it? Peak experience. Until you have that, par du, I will be your kye wei she nyen.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, I will be your close personal spiritual friend.

[Speaker 1]
Which is the long version of?

[Speaker 2]
Geshe.

[Speaker 1]
Geshe. The word geshe comes from here. The word geshe, or spiritual guide, comes from 2,000 years ago.

And nowadays it's a degree or something, okay? But here's the original, kye wei she nyen. Your spiritual guide, nga nyi, nga nyi.

[Speaker 2]
Myself, I myself.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, you got me. Me and nobody else. The nyi means nobody else, okay?

You got me and nobody else, he said. And then, mi nangwa.

[Speaker 2]
And then, oh, he disappeared?

[Speaker 1]
The angel disappeared.

[Speaker 2]
Shoot, okay.

[Speaker 1]
Yay! What do you mean shoot? It's a good ending.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, it'd be cooler if he stuck around, but I'll take it.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, now we got with my mom to do one more little piece, okay? Don't forget, we are quoting an ancient logic book, which also wants to introduce the author, okay? And what you see in the bold is from John Brady's database.

We searched millions of pages, about five seconds, and we found that excerpt. I mean, it takes less than 10 seconds. I used to do it by hand.

I used to go through hundreds of books and try to find it. And now he's got this database. God bless John.

Please live a long. So there's the original. And we can always go to the original and check it to see if it fits the one that was written only a thousand years ago.

And it happens to match, okay? That's the end of it. Meenamwa, he disappeared, okay?

And then we get more because we can go to the original manuscript and see what happens after that, you see what I mean? We can see what's the rest of the story. Which I'm not going to tell you because this part is more interesting.

Okay. And then we'll stop. Then we'll let my mom go to dinner, Ben.

Please read. And who's going to... Connie, you up for this?

[Speaker 3]
Yeah. Whoa, okay.

[Speaker 1]
Jess, please read, Ben. Connie's going to check you.

[Speaker 2]
Sure.

[Speaker 1]
Khache.

[Speaker 2]
Khache, jnana shri tikle, gyukyi sangye ma tok gi bardu she jung ho.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, so khache used to mean what?

[Speaker 2]
It used to mean someone from Kashmir.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, someone from Northern India, Kashmir, which was a Buddhist kingdom a thousand years ago. And nowadays, khache means?

[Speaker 2]
A Muslim.

[Speaker 1]
A Muslim, because they used to live there. And his personal name is jnana shri, which means what, Ben?

[Speaker 2]
Jnana shri, the glorious wisdom.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, glorious wisdom. And he wrote a tika. In fact, it's misspelled here.

And we correct the ancient manuscripts as we go. And we keep correcting them. So, it should have been, okay, he says, he says, he did not say, Angel did not say sangye ma tok bardu, he said sangye ma tok bardu.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, even better. Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, not just until you reach that peak experience, but until you reach the result of living a life with that peak experience, until you reach the state of a Buddha, I will stay with you.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, until the, I will, I will hang, I will protect you until the day you become a Buddha yourself. So, it's not until the day you reach, until you see ultimate reality. It's not until you become an Arya.

I will protect you until you become a Buddha. I will hang with you. I will be your geshe.

I will be your shengyin until you become a Buddha. So, he corrects the other book. This ancient author says, he did not say until you see emptiness.

What he really said was until you become a Buddha, which takes about a zillion years longer. Okay. This is from a restaurant.

Is that a good time, Dee?

[Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Okay.

[Speaker 3]
Time to go.

[Speaker 1]
Xiaoping, can you help my mom? Okay.

[Speaker 3]
And, we're gonna try, you know, the boss is frozen and it's not just me, right? Someone tell me it's not just me.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. It's not just you.

[Speaker 3]
Not just you. Okay. He's gone.

[Speaker 2]
Oh. So, I guess I'll, I'm gonna sing a song for everybody tonight. I don't know, I got nothing.

[Speaker 3]
No, no movie of some little child playing.

[Speaker 2]
Not handy. How's everybody doing? How are things?

Good, good. Glad to hear it. Yeah.

Pretty good. Pretty good here too. Thank you.

[Speaker 3]
Hey Ben, will you be my spiritual friend until the day I reach enlightenment?

[Speaker 2]
Oh yeah. You're stuck with me. I wouldn't be willing not to be your friend as long as you'll have me.

[Speaker 3]
Me too. Me too. Me too.

[Speaker 2]
I'm in. I'm in all the way around. Same.

All you gotta do is the same back for me and then we're good.

[Speaker 3]
Hey, we're good.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, great.

[Speaker 3]
What's up? We're golden.

[Speaker 2]
Deal. Yeah, delightful.

[Speaker 3]
I wonder if he realizes he's not there.

[Speaker 2]
Probably. I hope that he does.

[Speaker 3]
You're cheese. Can you eat some cheese now?

[Speaker 2]
I'm Natasha.

[Speaker 3]
Okay.

[Speaker 2]
Now, right. Yeah, it's just a TV pro... Oh, tell us the latest dad jokes.

Oh boy, what are the dad jokes? I don't know, Paul. Lately, yeah, my son likes to repeat things that I say.

And so he just, I'll be talking to him and he'll say, you know, he'll say whatever I say to try and be annoying. So what works on a five-year-old, right? He said, he'd say, hi, son.

He says, hi, son. Say, are you copying me? Are you copying me?

And then I'll say, I'm a smelly butt. And he'll say, I'm a smelly butt. And I'll say, yeah, you're a smelly butt.

You said you're a smelly butt and that won't work on him for long. But at the moment, it works on him every time. So that's, yeah, that's my amazing dad joke for the week.

It's not really a dad joke, but that's the joking I'm doing. Yeah, I bet he'll come back.

[Speaker 3]
It's funny to be- I just texted Tim.

[Speaker 1]
Is Tim still in the room? Oh yeah.

[Speaker 3]
I just texted him.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, that's a good idea.

[Speaker 3]
Maybe I should call him.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, I'm sorry. We're having, actually, Michael, computer problems.

[Speaker 1]
Got it.

[Speaker 2]
There's a lot of things open.

[Speaker 1]
We're trying- They're all ready. Things I have to do.

[Speaker 2]
Things he has to do, so.

[Speaker 3]
Oh yeah, if you've got words spoke open, just don't. I mean, it's full of, you know who, trying to stop it from being published. So how was it translating this last term's work, Ben?

Was it fun?

[Speaker 2]
Oh yes, it is fun because I'm a strange character that has fun doing bibliography entries. So yeah, I did, I don't know, what was it, 40? I can tell you because I have it in front of me so that I can bother Portage and Michael about it.

Oh, only 39 bibliography entries as our author goes through a survey.

[Speaker 3]
Oh, right, right, right.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, literature on the topic of accurate perception.

[Speaker 1]
Ben, am I back?

[Speaker 2]
I hear you well. Yeah, and then I think, yeah, you're back. You are.

And then Tim, I don't know if you want to re-spotlight Geshe-la's video.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, we're still at the top, right?

[Speaker 2]
We're rolling. Yeah, we've got another, what, five, 10 minutes?

[Speaker 1]
Okay. Yeah, 25 after. Okay, I went and got you that commentary, Ben, and by the Kashmiri, and here it is.

And here's the, by the way, you want to read the actual, what they said? Let's read that. I'm taking you into the Kashmiri commentary, okay?

Here we go. Please read and- Here's a question, by the way.

[Speaker 2]
Who's calling, it's Geshe-la Wangchuk calling him Kache, so- No, no, this is Bhutan Rinpoche or somebody, right?

[Speaker 1]
It's an old biography book.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, okay, cool.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, which is 1400s. Okay, here we go.

[Speaker 2]
Pabpa Jampel Nyi- Please read. Sure. Pabpa Jampel Nyi-Kyi, Dzungdru Shek Ne Rikibu Kyöni Semchen Tamche Kyi Dönchawar Serpa Yina Chi Chir Dak Nyi Kyi Dönchay Di Tong La Semchen Kyi Dönla Thorwar Kyi Shik Che Sung So Stop there.

[Speaker 1]
That's a good place to stop. You can translate this if you go slow and think carefully. Okay, so let's do it.

Pabpa Jampel Nyi- Shek, dzungdru means into the presence of somebody. Dzungdru means into the presence.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, well, I mean, Shek into the presence of the Arya Manjushri himself.

[Speaker 1]
No, the instrumental comes after the subject of the sentence.

[Speaker 2]
Hmm, oh, oh, he himself came into his presence. Yeah, the Arya Manjushri came into his presence.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, and then he refers to him as Rikibu.

[Speaker 2]
Uh-huh, yeah, son of noble family.

[Speaker 1]
Son of noble family, nice. If you have serpa.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, if you have patience.

[Speaker 1]
To chawa the dirt of all living beings.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, to work for the good, the benefit of all living beings.

[Speaker 1]
Good, dem chi chi daki den.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, then why would you work just for yourself?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, why the hell are you thinking just to get everybody up and just work for your own nirvana? What's wrong with you? See, right?

This author is supposed to be the one who says that Manjushri said, I'll help you, I'll be your geshe until you achieve Buddhahood. But the wording is a little different, isn't it? Okay, and then he says di tong.

Now, I'm guessing word might wanna win 10 cents. This is not the verb perceive because why, Ben?

[Speaker 2]
There's no mao, no mao.

[Speaker 1]
Nice. This is the imperative of the verb tong, as in tong yong. I'm sorry, tong len.

This is the imperative, tong, tong.

[Speaker 2]
Tape? Yeah, you should tape.

[Speaker 1]
Give it up. It's not len, it's tong. Give it up.

Give it up, give it up, man. Di tong, give up this attitude, okay? And you remember the definition of joyful after...

Tsongkhang gela drowa o.

[Speaker 2]
Taking joy in doing good.

[Speaker 1]
Take joy in sem chen gyi dun.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, take joy in working for the good of all beings.

[Speaker 1]
Tong, tong this attitude where you wanna take care of yourself. And drowa, about being hassled by all your students all day. Just drowa, okay?

Give up and give yourself up to it, okay? And Ezra, okay? Gyi shik, gyi shik.

Gyi is the ancient word for chepa. And shik is the ancient imperative, Isa.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, you must, you should.

[Speaker 1]
Got it, dude. That's what you're supposed to do. That's what I want you to do, okay?

Got it? Nice. Then the Lopangi Sobha.

[Speaker 2]
Then the, like he paid reverence?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, yeah. Oh, sorry, he replied.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, he replied, I'm sorry.

[Speaker 1]
He offered in response, okay? Well, I don't know this one. Okay, keep going, go ahead.

[Speaker 2]
Pappadaki sem yowa di ngo mi tokso.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, he says, oh, Arya, my sem is yowa.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, my mind is unsteady.

[Speaker 1]
Now.

[Speaker 2]
I'm deeply distracted.

[Speaker 1]
I'm gonna, we're gonna look up this word, which I don't know, okay?

[Speaker 2]
That's cool, me either.

[Speaker 1]
Me too, me rare. Okay. Yeah.

[Speaker 3]
We are at time, Geshe-la.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, but we gotta look up this word or we're gonna go crazy. Okay, so here we go. Over to Gopher, yay!

Okay. Don't worry, Joel, we're going to yours eventually. Okay.

But I'm just in a rush. Okay. Ngo mi tokso.

Might be spelled tok. That's Joel, that's why we need different options. It won't work with different options.

And the ngo might be misspelled. It could be really, okay? So you gotta have this capacity to have four near four, or it's not helpful, you can't use it.

And we're gonna look it up. The easy place that you look it up is the English, Tibetan English dictionary, but it's not as thorough as the Tibetan-Tibetan dictionary, okay? But when you're in a rush, you start with the easy dictionary, and it's pretty good.

And there's a bug, about one out of 20 times it comes back all red. And we're gonna try, I think five years. And I'm gonna try to find somebody to help me.

Maybe I can hire Rosa to find somebody. That problem's been about 10 years, it happened again. The browser is a feature in our project.

That's not it. Here are the green fruits. Probably not.

[Speaker 2]
You didn't stop sharing the screen, so it's sharing the whole one.

[Speaker 1]
Sorry. Wait, I wanna share it.

[Speaker 2]
Wait, you were sharing, it was the red one.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, the drunk one. Irritating, by the way. Gen-la, I found it.

What's it say, word? It's in the great dictionary. I'm actually listening.

I know, but I wanna use the easy dictionary. Okay, what does it say? Noh tokpa is the same as pen tokpa, it means to be useful, yeah.

Good, pen tokpa. Okay, now we can finish the class. Here we go, Ben.

Nomi toksa, this wandering mind of mine doesn't help. It's just use, okay? It's no use.

Pen me tokpa. Pen me tokpa is a very common colloquial expression. Lomi tokpa is 2,000 years old or something.

It's just a pain in the ass. I'm gonna try quickly, because I know we're cutting into somebody else's. Oh, sorry.

Okay, don't worry, I'm getting there. Okay, I'm gonna do it fast, Ben. Pabbe Tsum, the Aryan replied.

By the way, before he was a chom dun de in Arya's Marriage, khyer sanggye gyi sarma chin par du, until you reach enlightenment, nge yong su sung. Yong sung is an ancient word for geshe, and it means holder. I will keep you close.

I will be your close keeper. It's called yong dzin. In fact, the word is used always for the Mr. D. Tutor. It's called yong dzin. And here's the verb.

I will yong dzin you. tokpa ma che chik, don't worry about anything. Tokpa means an unfounded word.

You don't have to worry about anything. I'm your man. de ne lo pen kyi rab tu mangpo tsam la.

Then the master got inspired and wrote the many chapters of his classic book. Yay, end of story.

[Speaker 2]
Boss, did you wanna give an assignment?

[Speaker 1]
Card, translate your book. What do you mean an assignment? I don't know.

Remember last term you would give us a little passage that you would suggest we would have translated by the next class? Oh yeah, I'm up for it. Thanks for remembering that, Ben.

I'm not gonna do the rest of that sentence. Let's go to your actual test. You're right.

Translate these two sentences, Ben.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, boss.

[Speaker 1]
Pen de, and then de lo ma, okay?

[Speaker 2]
Okay, awesome.

[Speaker 1]
And I want you to do the first line of the next part. Okay? De lo ma, chikidapa.

And that'll be sexy.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, good luck. Okay, thanks, boss.

[Speaker 3]
Can we do?

[Speaker 1]
We're losing Geshe Michael again.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, stop muting me, whomever's doing that. Yeah, he asked for a 10 minute break, Nick.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, Nick says yes. Yeah, yeah, that sounds great. Okay, we can do 10.

[Speaker 3]
Can you hear me?

[Speaker 1]
533, oh.

[Speaker 2]
Hey, Joel.

[Speaker 1]
542, we'll come back. Five, six, whatever time it is there. Yeah, that's a good question.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, you gotta recalibrate there, Nick.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. So for the gopher search that just happened, was it like a this and this, or this and this?

[Speaker 3]
No. This or this, near, that or that.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. This or this, near, this, that, or that. That or that.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah. Within X lines, near, that, or that. Lines of that or that, yes.

Yeah. Okay. That's what I was, yeah.

Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay.