Нагарджуна, курс 3 — Мудрость Арьи Нагарджуны, курс 3: Пустота мантры (2021, Аризона), занятие 11
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[Speaker 1] Hi, welcome back to Nagarjuna. I made a mistake at the end of the last class. I said, oh, we're finished with the chapter, but we're not. We're still in the same chapter. I think it's chapter 16, which is about, talking about being chained to samsara and then getting nirvana, which is releasing the chains, and getting away from samsara. And this second half of this chapter doesn't take very long to teach. So I thought you guys might like to see something so you could appreciate the work of trying to translate these texts, trying to find these texts. So you're kind of at the end of the food chain. You are, speaking of chains, you are getting all this information, all these teachings, because of other people who work so hard to find the books, catalog the books, scan the books, input the books, save the books. And I'm talking about A-L-L and all of the hard work they do. So I kind of, my part is the easy part. I just explain something that I get the book because other people have worked so hard for over 30 years to find these books and to bring me books. They're like these guys that go out in the world and find the books and they bring them back home and I get to sit and read them and share them with you. So I kind of wanted to recognize that huge effort of John Brady and his whole team of A-L-L and also all the gold clubs and the Club de Oros around the world. And all of you guys are working so hard to raise money. And I think sometimes if I'm you, I will think, well, what do they do with the money? Where's the money going? And I thought you would appreciate seeing how your donation became this class. So first of all, the donations made 20, 22 years ago. We were trying to find Choney Lama's books. And they were, in those days, it was very hard to get a copy of any of Choney Lama's books. And my teacher showed me one book of Choney Lama and I was like, wow. And I studied, he has 250 books like this. He said, come on Rinpoche, give them to me. He's like, no, you can't get them. And I was like, what do you mean we can't get them? He says, we made a mistake. And I'm like, who's we? He says, my monastery, Serenade, we made a mistake. I'm like, well, what's the mistake? He says, we didn't want other monasteries to get Choney Lama's books because then we could win all the debates with the other monasteries. So we kept all of Choney Lama's books very carefully. I'm like, well, what happened? He said, well, we kept them in the library. And I'm like, well, what happened to the libraries? He says, well, during the Cultural Revolution, the library was bombed and it all burned up. Every copy burned up. We made a boo-boo. We put all the copies in one place so nobody else, probably that's the karma, right? So nobody else could get them and then they all burned up. And then we ran away. And that's why I'm teaching you right now. And I'm like, hmm. So we started looking for Choney Lama's, any copies of Choney Lama's books. And finally, Jason Dunbar, who was a great ALL, early worker for ALL, he went to Tibet and he went to Choney Monastery and he begged for scans of Choney Lama's books and he got them. And he got all of them. And I'd like to show you one here. And you know, in those days, copy machines in East Tibet, Choney District, they weren't too good. But you can see it's a pretty cool carving. And that's what it looks like. The end paper, the sideways letters on the left side, they say TSAD GIC, TSAD GIC, which means TSA BA SHES RAB GYI GCIG CA. TSA BA SHES RAB GYI GCIG CA. GCIG CA means commentary. And TSA BA SHES RAB is root text on wisdom. So you find the name of the book is at the end. And then the page number is there, which is RAB BDUN. I'm sorry. Yeah, RAB BDUN, which means 67. And then there'll be a volume number, which is probably GNAR. And that means his collected works on multiple volumes. So if the page gets separated from the book, which often happens, because they're not bound together, then you can find the book and put it back in. Because teachers are always giving pages to their students and saying, memorize that. Give me back the page tomorrow. And they never do. And so there's the copy from Choney Monastery. And it was the only copy that we could find. And so anytime we had a question, we didn't have any place to check. We didn't have anything to compare it to. You see, there was no other carving available to us. And it often happens that you have a question about a carving. Is the carving correct or not? So then we ended up going to Russia. We found, I don't know, 141,000 Tibetan manuscripts in the collection of the king. The Tsar of Russia had a collection. He was a book collector. Russians are inveterate book collectors. They love books. And he collected 141,000 manuscripts. And we found a second copy. So here's a, you can see in the next picture, this is a copy of Choney Lama's works. Much better carving, as you can see. And more clear. And it took 12 years to catalog those books. It took 12 years not to copy them, not to scan them. It took 12 years to write the names down. And we had three guys working full time. And then once we saw in the contract, we had something in the contract that said we can make copies of our monastery's books. And we got permission to make copies. Let me see that copy again. Now, if the guy holding the paper down while the roller is going across the ink on the woodblock looks up at some, probably not a girl, but something. And then he has to get these big stripes down the page. You see on the right side, this blank spot. And then Geshe-la has to try to guess what was there on the woodblock. And it's really, really difficult sometimes. So it's very important to have multiple woodblocks. It's very, very important to go around the world and try to find another copy. And it takes money to fly from East Tibet to Russia. It takes money to talk Russians into letting you work on their books for 12 years. And that's what you guys are fundraising for. It takes a lot of money. It has, I would say, five to $10 million so far. And we're about 5% finished. So if we want to have these classes and if we want to be released from the chains that bind us to samsara, whoever it is that is bound to samsara, we need these books. And then we need money. It costs money to fly around and go into ancient libraries and spend months and months, years, 12 years. It takes money. Those guys who lived in St. Petersburg, St. Petersburg is the most expensive European city because you can't grow anything there. When I went there, they said, don't spend much money on dinner. And so I said, okay. And so I went to dinner. I said, all I want is a salad. And they gave me a salad. And the next day I said, okay, I didn't spend much money on dinner. What'd you buy? I bought a salad. Oh my God, that's the most expensive thing. That's like $50. I'm like, why? They said, you're in Russia. It's too cold. You can't grow vegetables here. Duh, you should have had some sheep meat or something. And so it costs money to stay there. It costs a lot of money to stay there for 12 years. And also all kinds of problems. We got, one of our staff got kidnapped by the mafia in Russia. They said, $50,000 and we're going to kill him. And you know, that's expensive. So anyway, one more thing I want to show you of why John Brady is so brilliant and why his project deserves your help so much. Let's just see the next slide. Now, this is the wood block from Choney Monastery. Probably it was printed sometime around 1700. I mean, carved around 1700. And if you know Tibetan, look at the fourth line, okay Tim? You want to read it slowly? From GZHAN. GZHAN Come on. [Speaker 2] GZHAN NYID RGYUD DANG BRAS BU NYID DANG Keep going. DANG NYID TSE ZHIG NYID DANG Okay, good. [Speaker 1] It says BRAS BU NYID DANG NYID TSE ZHIG NYID And Geshe-la's translating, Geshe-la's preparing for this class, and Geshe-la's going crazy because it doesn't make sense. There's something wrong here. Like Geshe-la, after many, many years, you smell something's missing. Like there's something's missing here. And by the way, Tim, you can appreciate it. He's got pears here. He's got members of pears. He's got RGYUD and BDE BU. Cause and effect. Later he's going to have SOR BA and SOR BA PO. The feeling and the feeler. And then between that, you've got thing defined with no definition. You've got thing defined. It's a list of pears, but there's one single guy in the middle. It should have what word is missing. This is what is defined. We need the word for definition. CEN GYIS. CEN GYIS is missing here. So Geshe-la spends three hours. He struggles, struggles, struggles, struggles. And then he says, the god damn block. There's something wrong with the block. That guy was also looking up at something and didn't carve definition in the block. So what did Geshe-la do? Yeah, I got to go find the other block. But if ALL hasn't had the money to fly to St. Petersburg and stay there for 12 years, I won't have a second block. Got it? That's why we need the gold club. And that's why you guys have to support the gold club. Even $5, even $1. If there's enough mice, they can hold up the Titanic. That's the whole story with the gold clubs. It's not big rich people. It's a bunch of small people who give $1, $5, $10. And then we hold up the Titanic. So I want to play with you. Geshe-la decided there's something missing from the block. Geshe-la went to the second block. Let's go see it. By the way, I did this in the car this morning. Now, Tim, read the third line. CEN GYIS DANG GZHAN ZHIG NI Yeah, what's there? The word that Geshe-la predicted should be there. There's definition. GZHAN NI and ZHAN ZHIG. Go back, go back. Make it big. [Speaker 2] Now, $100. [Speaker 1] How the hell did they change the wood block? Somebody corrected it, like 200 years ago. Somebody sat there like Geshe-la for three hours and said, something's wrong here. And then they corrected it. But how do you correct a wood block? You shave off the letters and you dig a square spot. Then you take a piece of wood and make it the same size and you glue it into the block. And then you re-carve it, but there's no room to re-carve it because we're adding a word. So what do you do? You shrink everything. Look at the third line. It's very cool. You shrink everything. The guy's trying to carve it like this. Could you just fit in two more words? What? Come on, you can do it. And you can see this guy sitting there carving. It would take about, I don't know, three, four hours to carve it. And he's carving everything smaller. So if you look at the picture, you can see that it's very cool to me. Some guy took the block, cut out the missing part, and glued it in. And that's why it's smaller. Got it? Cool? Isn't that cool? Now, if Gold Club doesn't send guys to St. Petersburg Library, then I cannot explain the book to you because there's something wrong with the book. Got it? And then it's wrong forever. If we don't fix it now, trust me, no one else cares about it. I'm kidding. So yeah, I think it's cool. All right, now let's go to the impossible book. The book's already impossible, but if there's words missing, it gets a little more difficult. All right, here we go. ,GAL TE NYE BAR LEN CING NA, ,NYE BAR LEN BYAS CING MI RGYUR, ,NYE BAR LEN MI CING STE, ,NAS SKABS GANG ZHIG CING BA RGYUR, Don't forget we're talking about being chained. CING BA means chained, right? Chained. Who's chained to what, by the way? We are chained to what? Mind and body. Which are, oops, messed up. We're chained to a messed up body and mind. We are chained to a mortal body and we are chained to a f-ed up mind. Okay, that's the chains. Okay, got it? Who's chained? Michael. Okay, Michael is chained to a messed up body and mind. Okay, is Michael the chain? No, I mean, you chain somebody to a wall in a dungeon, right? You chain a prisoner to the wall. Is the chain part of the wall or is the chain part of the prisoner? Neither. I mean, it's between the prisoner and the wall, right? Got it? So, and by the way, in the Abhidharma, the chain is a separate entity. It's very interesting. They say, there's your body and mind and then there's Pachi and the chain is some kind of mystical third thing that keeps Pachi chained to his body and mind. Then Nagarjuna is like, come on. Either the chain is part of the body and mind or the chain is part of the guy who's chained to the body and mind. But the chain, where else is the chain going to be? The guy dies, what happens? The chain just sits around then the whole universe is filled with chains. Who's getting chained? Who's chained? And then I'm going to skip to this last line. SONG DANG MA SONG DGONGS PA'I BRTAN SONG DANG MA SONG DGONGS PA'I BRTAN $100. DGONGS $100. Yeah, he's correct. It's not meditation. No, nothing to do with meditation. We learned it like a hundred times, but. Very similar spelling and exactly the same pronunciation because it has a prefix. For $50, I'll give you a clue. It came before. It came in the second chapter, $25. Walking, yay, $25 for Gyeltsen, good, awesome. All right, oh, he's chained, okay. That's all right, don't tell me. Yeah, walking. What's it got to do with chains? $100. Yeah, wait, he's showing me. Yeah, here. Where's the? Yeah, where's the... Okay, there's a part of the path that you walked. There's a part of the path you haven't walked yet yet. The part of the path that you're walking on is supposed to be somewhere between, but you can't define it. And that's very similar to the idea of the chains. The middle point, the part of the path that you're stepping on now, GOM. Because GOM is always active stepping. It's not really walking. It's putting your foot down. Where's the part of your path? Where is the exact part of the path of the present moment? Where's the present moment? That's where the chain is. Got it? It's cool, right? Where's the chain? Oh, it's like halfway between you and your body and mind. The gardener is like, got it? Halfway between you and your body and mind. So let's do the language here. ,GAL TE NIR BA LEN CING NA, If you are chained to your body and mind, ,NIR BA LEN CES CING MIN GYUR, then you're not chained. If the chain is part of your body and mind, then the chain is not part of you. How's that? ,NIR BA LEN MI MI CING DE, Then if you let go of your body and mind, you wouldn't be chained anymore. If you died, you wouldn't be chained anymore. You'd go to nirvana. If the chain is part of your messed up body and mind, then when you drop a body and mind, as you keep doing, then you should be unchained for a while. ,GNAS SKABS GANG ZHIG CING BAR GYUR, Then what point is it where you're chained? Now, same argument. You tell me where it comes from. For $100. God, you guys are making so much money today. Ready? Everybody's like... Did the chains exist before the guy was chained? Now, what's the $100, Geshe-la? You take me back to a previous verse in this series of classes. That's good. But we were talking before that. By the way, the ninth chapter's name is, was there something there before? The ninth chapter's name is an investigation of whether something was there before. And it referred to one of the senses. Yeah, when you look at something. Yeah, is the eye there? Is the little girl with the telescope there? She walks outside and then the stars are there? Does the perceiver come first or the seeing comes first? Which one? Does the little girl walk out with the telescope and then looks at the stars? Or how does it work? Does the little girl with the telescope walk out of her house and then look at the stars? She has to. She has to because there has to be a telescope before there's astronomy. But she can't because she's not an astronomer until she looks at the stars. So the whole thing's impossible. Now take that here. Chains. Did the chains come first or the chaining came first? [Speaker 2] You can't be a chaining until you've been chained. [Speaker 1] Yeah, good. You can't be a chaining until you've been chained. But you got to have chains to get chained first. The whole thing is something messed up. And the point is, if there's trouble in the kitchen figuring out why the husband's upset, you have to look for other options. Maybe it's all coming from you. Maybe it's all coming from you. Okay, that's the bottom line. Maybe it's all coming from you. Maybe you make the telescope and then you make the girl and you make the astronomy. All coming from you. But they are not causing each other out there. Duk, duk, duk. It looks like duk, duk, duk, but it's really duk, duk, duk. Okay, got it? That's all. If you realize it's duk, duk, duk, then you can do medicine Buddha mantras. But if you think you're duk, duk, duk, you're in trouble. If you're out there doing medicine Buddha mantras, you're in trouble. If you realize that the mantra comes from you, the illness comes from you, the fixing comes from you, then you can use a mantra. Cool? Yay, let's go to the next one. Oh, by the way, next picture. Is the guy shackled or not? [Speaker 2] Wait, no, the guy before that. [Speaker 1] Is this guy shackled? No, because there's no chain here. Therefore, the chains have to come first, right? Never mind. All right, okay. Next verse. RE ZHIG PHYING PA MI DRUL DE MA GCIGS PA YANG DRUL MIN GYUR This is very subtle. It says, RE ZHIG means provisionally, for the time being. Okay, for now, RE ZHIG, for now, PHYING PA MI DRUL DE You cannot take off your chains. Look, it's kind of like, look, look. You can't take off your chains. Why? First of all, he's like that. First of all, Nagarjuna, first of all, you cannot take off these chains. You cannot not fight with your husband. You cannot take off these chains. Why? Because you see the chains. You cannot take off the chains. Why? Because you think those chains are coming this way. Then you, the way you think about the chains is the chain. Got it? Okay, you can't. He just says, hey, let me tell you something. What? You can't take these chains off. Why? Because these chains are coming this way. And thinking they're coming this way is the real chains. It's very sexy. Thinking the chains are coming this way, when you look at the chains, it's the real chain. And if you look at the chains, then you're going to be chained more and more. You guys. Okay, got it? Very sexy. MA CING PA YANG GROL MIN GYUR Even if I took the chains off, you would still be chained. Okay, got it? CHING PA'I GROL BZHIN YIN GYUR NA CING DANG GROL BA'I GROL GCIG GYUR If there was a middle point in the stepping of the foot on the path between being chained and unchained, then somewhere the part of the path where you have been and the part of the path where you will be have to touch. If there's a place between chained and unchained that can touch, then you can be chained and unchained in the same moment. It's not possible. Like, you can see Nagarjuna going. Okay, we can make a dance, right, Rebecca? Some kind of Hawaiian thing. Okay, next verse. BDAG NI LEN MED NYON YIN DAG NYON DE BDAG GYUR GYUR RO BZHIN Let's just start with the first two lines because this gets heavy. This gets difficult. BDAG NI LEN MED NYON YIN DAG If I could not NYE ROL LEN PA, that would be NYON YIN LAS BDE PA If I could stop NYE ROL LEN PA YIN, I could reach nirvana. What's NYE ROL LEN PA? Yeah, if I could stop taking on new bodies and minds, that's nirvana. If I could stop taking on cancer-filled bodies and anger-filled minds, that would be nirvana. If I could stop that. NYON DE BDAG GYUR GYUR RO BZHIN I would like to make nirvana my own. BDAG GYUR GYUR I would like to make nirvana my own. Then you're already in trouble because me, my, me and my, that's the definition of the misunderstanding, which is which link of the Wheel of Life? The blind man. Which link? Number one causes everything else. The minute you say, I want nirvana, then you're already in trouble. Who's me? Who's I? What nirvana? BDAG GYUR BYAS BDAG GYUR BYAS means I want to make it mine. But, Christina, the word for mine, the word for me, atman, also means self-nature. Self-nature. When we say BDAG MED, un-atman. Un-atman, no self-nature. The word for me in Tibetan and Sanskrit is the word for self-existence. So when the Garjuna says, hey, what do you want to do? I want to reach nirvana. What do you want to do, nirvana? I want to make it mine. Oh yeah, self-existent mind. Yeah, cool. Got it? Atman. I want the atman to own the nirvana. But atman don't exist because atman means self-nature. DE DAG GANG ZAG RDZIN DE NYID NYES LEN RDZIN PA CHEN PO YIN Your desire to make nirvana your own is just an advanced form of misunderstanding. Whoa. Your desire to make nirvana my own is link number one in the goddamn Wheel of Life. Duh. I want to get out of the Wheel of Life. Yeah, okay, how? I'm going to make nirvana my own. Yeah, cool, that's the first link in the Wheel of Life. Got it? You should be laughing. I don't know what's going on. Let's do it again. I want to get out of the Wheel of Life. Yeah, really? What are you going to do? I'm going to make nirvana my own. Oh yeah, that's the first link in the Wheel of Life. Very good, very good. Okay, got it? It's kind of funny. All right. GANG LA NYA NGAN DE SKYE MED SKYE MED KHOR BA ZAL DBANG YOD MIN PA This is very difficult and you need Choney Lama. The line says nowhere could you create nirvana. Nowhere could you SKYE. This is the D, SKYE with a D, which means to create as opposed to be born. Without the D, be born. With the D, create. What's the most famous use of this verb? That's pretty close. That's actually true. How about SEMS SKYES? To give birth to the mind, to give birth to the wish-fulfillment. So, but here... Okay, $100 question. God, you guys are making so much money today. Choney Lama says the word SKYE here, which means to create. You want to create your nirvana, right? You want to bring, you want to create your nirvana. He says the word create here is a code word for DRON GDOG in the pair called DRON GDOG and CORN DEVIL. Yay, $100. Jigme, can you pay Jigme $100? Now, which Jigme takes the money and which Jigme gives the money? And where's the line between? Yeah, overrate. So what's it mean here? When you say, I want to make nirvana mine, you are creating a fake nirvana. You are creating a self-existent nirvana. When you say, I want to make nirvana mine, you are creating nirvana. And then Choney Lama says, when Nagarjuna says create here, he means a self-existent nirvana. Got it? ,KHOR BA SEL BA YOD MIN PAR, ,KHOR BA SEL BA means you couldn't also remove that nirvana. ,SEL BA here, which before meant a jet day for $100. Damn, $100 to drive. Before, SEL BA meant to drive the existence of a thing. Here it means SEL BA, like clear light SEL BA, to remove. If you try to make a nirvana yours which is self-existent, that would be also a nirvana that would always be the same and could never move anymore. ,DE LA KHOR BA CI ZHIG YIN, What do you think nirvana is? What do you think nirvana is? That's who's asking. CI ZHIG I'm sorry, you guys who are creating a nirvana, what do you think samsara is? What do you think? What do you think samsara is? Now, you want to know some frustrating thing? The answer is missing from both carvings. The answer is missing from both carvings. It's amazing. Nobody noticed it for 370 years. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what they're doing in those monasteries. But it's in the tenure. It's in Nagarjuna. The line exists in the carving of Nagarjuna because he's quoting the verse here. So I went and found it there. Thank God for Club Darul. So I can go find it in another... From India. I found it from India. And the line was missing. The whole line was missing. The answer to the question, what do you think samsara was anyway? And then the answer's wrong. The answer's missing. So here's the answer. NYA NGA'I BDE PA'ANG CI ZHIG RTAG Here's RTAG. Yeah. NYA NGA'I BDE PA'ANG CI ZHIG RTAG What the hell did you come up with in your mind when you were wondering what the hell was samsara? CI ZHIG RTAG What did you come up with when I asked you? We're talking about nirvana, right? Just freedom samsara. But when I ask you what the heck is samsara, you start wandering around. RTAG A dumb pariksha. You went the wrong way in your examination. Got it? You did a stupido pariksha. Pariksha stupido. You did a dumb pariksha. Okay, got it you guys? That's the missing line. Now maybe it was impolite and he didn't want to have it. Let's look at the picture here. If you can explain the picture to me. It's a roulette wheel. What's the point? [Speaker 2] In your pursuit of nirvana, in your pursuit of nirvana, you are ball. Do you have a very smooth chance? Like you're just going around. [Speaker 1] You're spinning the wheel again. The way you pursue nirvana spins the samsara again. Yeah, cool. Good job. Your pursuit of nirvana, for me, spins samsara again. Congratulations. Your pursuit of nirvana is spinning samsara again. That's the point here. And I would say, I don't want to scare you, but doing Medicine Buddha mantras the wrong way would make you sick. Could sustain the suffering of your body. I'm not saying you get cancer from doing Medicine Buddha mantras. I'm not saying that. But what I am saying is, it's possible to do them in a misunderstood way, which would sustain illness. It would spin samsara rather than stopping the wheel. That's heavy. That's heavy. We have to understand that to make the mantras work, we already have to protect life, or the mantra won't work. And you will die while you're doing mantras. Got it? Okay. It's a good time, yay, depressed time to go. Yes, question? [Speaker 2] The question, yeah, that wouldn't mean that it's better not to do any mantras at all. It's just that it wouldn't benefit you. [Speaker 1] It's a good question. I'm not hearing the question. Yeah, Geshe-la, does that mean I should stop doing mantras if I don't understand emptiness? No, you should keep doing mantras. Why? Because when you do mantras, you have a foundational sweet intent. And that foundational sweet intent will help you understand emptiness later. So if you don't understand how the mantra works, keep doing the mantra, because it can help you understand how the mantra works. But don't go too slow to understand how the mantra works, because you will die at first. Really, seriously, no joke. But yeah, anytime you do a mantra, it's a good seed, maybe for future life, if you don't work on emptiness at the same time. So do your mantras for half an hour, go read Nagarjuna for 10 minutes, come back to your mantras for half an hour. That's a good balance. But don't ignore Nagarjuna and say, I'm going to sit all day and do mantras. Because it's very possible you will die before you get the benefit from the mantras, or you help anybody. So keep sprinkling in the shubra of Nagarjuna. And don't say it's too hard for me, because sansara is hard and you got to figure it out. All right, get to know Sanskrit. Yay, let's talk about sansara, sansara. Hey, you got that? Yeah, the pronunciation is sansara. What's that note at the bottom? Please don't pronounce this as sam-sa-ra. That's a mistake about the M with a dot under it. M with a dot under it is not M. They just didn't have any other letter to use. I'm sorry. So please, it's not M. It's M with a dot under it. M with a dot under it means like those French guys, like Coquet. Coquet, who's, they talk like this all the time. He says, Geshe-la, you must come to Paris. You will have the best, you know. It's that nasal, okay? So the M with a dot under it just means, uh, sansara, sansara. Don't say sam-sa-ra. It happened that, I don't know, the British made this mistake and it got stuck. Every day I start saying sam-sa-ra, sam-sa-ra. Sounds like a guy's name, really. Hey, meet my friend, Sam-sa-ra. Okay. And it's especially irritating to me. By the way, recently somebody put out a video with my picture in it and the Sanskrit was all misspelled. Please don't do that. It makes me crazy. So if you're going to use my name or my picture, please, please, please, please, let me check it first. And somebody else had Tibetan and it was all misspelled in the same time. So please, please. Because I feel, maybe you can see I feel passionate about it. Okay. So Sri Lanka is misspelled. Sivananda Yoga Center is misspelled because they dropped the diacritic. They dropped the pronunciation sign in the same way that the dot got dropped from the M. So here's this poor Mr. Sivananda whose name is mispronounced forever. And this poor country whose name is mispronounced forever. It's Sri Lanka. It's not Sri Lanka. But the dot got dropped off. Okay, got it? Same thing with sam-sa-ra. Okay. Geshe-la, if you want to irritate Geshe-la, you know how. Okay, sam means to be together, along with. By the way, by itself, it's sam. And then sur means to flow. And the European is sur also. And it's found in serum, which is a flowing stuff. And strudel, which is interesting, comes from sur because of the whirlpool look of a good cinnamon roll. Okay. And doesn't that make sense for the Sanskrit of? Sam-sa-ra. So strudel and sam-sa-ra are inextricably connected. If you ever have a strudel, give it to me and I can take care of it. Because that's sam-sa-ra. Same root. All right, that finishes. Let's review what happened. We were trying to find, who is it that's going to get to nirvana? And who is it that is chained to their body and mind? And you guys got to think about it. Everyone says, I want to get to nirvana. Everybody says, I want to escape the wheel of life. Did you notice the houses in the wheel of life? Did you notice the two guys in the boat in the wheel of life? Who's the two guys in the boat in the wheel of life? [Speaker 2] Who's that? [Speaker 1] Mingsuk. Mingsuk. [Speaker 2] Not... [Speaker 1] Yeah, body and mind. It's body and mind. When you get out of the wheel, you're going to have to leave behind the boat with the body and mind in it. Well, then who's left? Are you going to go around without a body and mind? Here, meet my friend. I can't see him. Yeah, I saw he don't got a body. What does he think about Democrats and Republicans? Well, he doesn't think. He doesn't have a mind. He left that behind in the wheel of life. Well, where is he? You got to think about it. You keep saying you want to go to nirvana. What's that? I want to dump this body which is going to get cancer sooner or later, okay? No matter what you drink. And I want to get rid of this mind which is all messed up with jealousy, et cetera, et cetera. Okay. What happens after you get rid of it? Oh, I didn't think about it. Yeah, I want to get off this bus. Then you're standing out in the middle of the desert. You say you want to get off the bus. Yeah, but I wasn't thinking what would be left over. All right, you got to think about it. Okay, see you in the next class.