500 образов для медитации на шагах пути к просветлению, занятие 56

[Speaker 1]
idam 56, an early complaint about the idea of emptiness. For example, how the people who like the first turning of the wheel might criticize the people who like the second turning of the wheel. The people in next text, the Hinayana people, they are uncomfortable with the word emptiness.

In fact, they don't use it. They say, no self-nature, right? And we say, why?

And they say there's a basic problem with it, is that then there's no right or wrong. If everything's, if nothing exists, then we should just do whatever we want, okay? It doesn't matter if we hurt people, because other people don't exist.

You know, you can steal money, you can steal other people's wife or husband, and it doesn't matter, because they don't exist, okay? Then if you really understand emptiness, and the question at this idam is what? Why are right and wrong more real, more important, if you understand emptiness?

Who wants to take a shot? Daniel? Yeah, good.

If the world is a blank screen, empty, okay? So, I like the word blank because it comes from blank, which is white. Cool?

White screen. The world is blank. Blank white screen, okay?

Then my seeds are projecting people and things onto it, right? If you understand emptiness as a blank, blank, white, movie screen, then you understand it's more important to be good to people, and it's more important not to hurt people, if you understand emptiness. Got it?

So, what's the original complaint of the lower schools? If nothing exists, if other people don't exist, really, then I can do anything I want. The world is open, okay?

Then the Madhyamika guys say, no, no, no, you got it backwards. It's more important to be nice if you understand emptiness. If things are empty, it's more important to be nice, got it?

Because that's this blank screen that you project your world on, and if you want a nice world, you got to be nice to other people, okay? Got it? How does that—okay, you want to go deeper?

Jasmine, where's Jasmine? I got a new idea. Let's ask people the interconnection between idims.

How does this relate to the goose? You're right Daniel, but let the Austrian do it.

[Speaker 2]
Good, good. And Daniel called it, don't throw the baby out with the water. It's an old English expression.

It means if you're washing a baby in a tub, take the baby out before you throw the water out. It means you threw away too much, right? So, if this idea is correct about right and wrong, then don't go too far.

Khyap chewa, right? Nick had it. Gag ja khyap chewa.

Your gag ja is too fat. It covers too many things, okay?

[Speaker 1]
There do exist husbands, they're just not real the way we thought, okay? They're coming from me, and you better be able to divide the milk from the water, okay? The husband that you want to stop is the one, I didn't do anything.

I walk in the room, I didn't do anything. You start yelling at me, okay? That's the one that's a gag ja, right?

Okay? If things are empty, it's more important for you to be moral. A sign that, let's flip it the other way, okay Jasmine?

I mean, you can play with these things. A sign that person, therefore, a sign that a person really understands emptiness is that they are extremely sweet to other people, okay? So, if you meet a, I was gonna say asshole, but my mama asked me not to say bad words.

If you meet a person who's really irritating, okay? It's on, who really bothers other people actively, it's unlikely that, it's less likely that they saw emptiness, or they understand emptiness, okay? Got it?

So, people, the more you understand emptiness, the more gentle you should become, okay? It's just more logical that that person should become more and more gentle, okay? And avoid doing negative things.

Does a person become perfect the day they see emptiness directly? No. You got billions of years of bad habits.

I'm sorry, it's not gonna happen, okay? You start working on them effectively, okay? You have more ammunition, but you're not a perfect person, okay?

Don't think that, okay? Somebody told me if a person can't fly they didn't see emptiness, and I'm like, a high lama told me this. Okay.