Сяопин Джоу / Элисон — Книга 2: Самоцвет истинного намерения (Панчен Лодро Лексанг о «Виная-сутре»), занятие 4

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Курс: Xiaoping Zhou / Alison — Book 2: The Gemstone of True Intent (Panchen Lodru Leksang on the Vinaya Sutra) — Diamond Cutter Classics
Урок: Занятие 4 («Xuanzang's Tower»), встреча 26.02.2024
Ведёт: Геше Майкл Роуч, Элисон Сяопин Джоу (перевод на китайский)
Дата и место: 26.02.2024, место не указано
Источник: YouTube, канал Diamond Cutter Classics, плейлист PL1KVm5jgTljRBpdDsc-GnPM-ab-9EEPLy; расшифровка TurboScribe
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[Говорящий 1]
Hey, hey, hey everybody. It's time and I just want to take a moment to welcome all of the participants of the Sedona College of International Management here. We got a group of people joining today from SCIM and I just want to thank you all for participating and also let you know that um you know we're going to go on for a couple hours with uh Diamond Cutter Classics classes but you guys are welcome to go right at five or you know after one hour that is for your time zone because I know you have other to attend to so I know you've got a quiz and some other stuff to do but thank you for joining and welcome to Xuanzang's Tower and I hope you enjoy the class.

Are you there Ben? Hey Nick. Yes sir.

Where's where's the Xiaoping? I'm here. I hear her voice.

Can you see me? I can hear you. So that's kind of pleasant.

Oh no, no. Now you can see me. Okay.

Any uh any pep talk I'm gonna make? That's it. I just did a nice welcome for our guests and I want to thank everybody for being here joining us with for this next installment of Xuanzang's Tower and Allison if you're ready with the homework we're ready for you.

Okay. Mr. Ben called me. Called you what?

Mr. Ben wait until you become Ong Nguyen then you're gonna be sorry. Can you see my screen? Yeah.

Got it. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you. So first question is for our last Vinaya class. The author said that you put together a boat for you.

What is the name of this boat and what does this metaphor the boat refer to? Titanic. A big crash in Xiaoping's class.

Anybody? Okay. Look at the chat.

Okay. I think it's another sign of samsara right? Nope.

Yes. This boat actually mean refer to this book and the name is a gemstone of the true intent or the jewelry of true intent and it is a general treatment of Vinaya and it is made for the lucky people who want to master the Vinaya and also the author is supplying a cab shipton who is a high teacher and a wise man to help us to go to the other side. Xiaoping you have allergies or cold?

I have very bad allergies so I almost didn't sleep. I thought you're allergic to Stanley but he's not there. Oh.

I don't know. I'm still very allergic. I'm sorry.

Yeah. So please bear my voice. Okay.

Second one. What is the very first line in the Vinaya Sutra by Guna Prabha? Where's Upala when you need her?

Yeah. Upala usually is our representative. Sorry.

I'm just running a little late. I have to open my notes. And also this first line is about the essence of the whole Vinaya Sutra.

Anybody remember? I kind of remember but I don't get any money if I give an answer. Okay.

I'm going to reveal the answer. It talks about Vinaya's function. So what's Vinaya's function?

Vinaya's function is to help you get out of samsara. It is the essence of the Vinaya Sutra and he stated in the first line. Okay.

Third question. Usually after the pledge to compose the book will come a warranty of the value of the book. It's a promise that this book is high quality enough to waste your life.

And it's a four-part statement of quality. Please list the four parts. Good question.

Anybody remember? Subject, the ultimate purpose, the temporary purpose, and how they connect. Oh yeah.

Yes. Subject matter, short-term goal, and usually the short-term goal here is I'm going to finish this book to make a determination. The third one is a long-term goal, which is get out of samsara.

Fourth one connection, meaning is there a connection between this book and those two goals? Okay. Two words.

First one, connection. Eloquent explanation? Yeah.

Eloquent explanation. Is that $50 or $100? $200.

Yongjin? Tutor.

[Говорящий 3]
Tutor.

[Говорящий 1]
Wait, misspelled. An S? Yeah, I think there's an S.

NGS. Oh, sorry. I think so.

Yeah. Okay. This class, we're going to offer them as a recording the second class awards test.

Sorry? Okay. So for you, not for him.

Seiji, you're not muted if you mean to be. Yongjin is high teacher. And third one?

Brian Mendoza says scholar. Yeah, scholar, wise person. Yes.

Okay. Here is the three paragraph. Can you read it, Xiaoping?

Oh, yes. Yeah. Word, do you want to help her?

He already helped her. Yeah, I already did. You heard like the Chibita, you know what's Chibita?

Public horse. The community horse.

[Говорящий 2]
Public horse.

[Говорящий 1]
Public horse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

This ngak here means a statement inside the book, Xiaoping. Oh. So based on this statement, we can see that if we do the activities of studying, et cetera, okay, and this shukpa is engaged, right?

If we engage in the activities of studying and so on, what's this, the ter sam gom, Xiaoping? Ter sam gom. Ter sam gom.

The et cetera is sam and gom. Nick? Sam, gom?

Oh, yeah, contemplation and meditation. And then meditate. So he says education, et cetera, and et cetera means thinking about it when you're driving your car and meditating on it, okay?

Those three. When you engage in that, due to that, you will achieve nirvana and nirvana. Now, big question, Xiaoping.

In this school, what is nirvana with no remainder? Get out of samsara? What do you guys think?

Just nirvana without remainder in the school is when there's no more body. Yeah, body stops and mind stops, okay? All right.

It's like when you ask a homework question. Everybody body stops, okay? Yeah, and that's the ultimate purpose.

So word said we're going to have the short-term purpose, then we're going to have the ultimate purpose, then we're going to have the text itself, and then the connection between those three, right? The text leads you to the short-term purpose, which is to finish the text, and then the long-term purpose is to use that to get to nirvana without remainder, right? Cool.

Okay, cool. That's a good translation word. Let's go to the next one.

Wait, what about the last part, the nakidim? By the way, if you guys care, this ancient word comes in two versions. What's the other version?

Do you guys remember it? Which word, Geshe-la? The last word of the second line.

The commentator used the other word to replace the semi-ni. Yeah, sometimes it's spelled niger, N-Y-I-D. Sometimes it's spelled ninger, N-Y-I-N-G.

It's a very unusual spelling. So niger means ultimate purpose, and niger means essence per purpose. Same meaning.

And you can see it either way in the literature, and you shouldn't try to correct it. Like ningsamjorwa, nisamjorwa again? Like that, yeah, similar.

Okay, next paragraph. Xiaoping, you got to choose someone to read since you are so sick. I'm sorry.

Yeah, where can I see people? Where is the second place? How come all the people disappeared?

In the homework, they always disappear. When you do the homework, everyone disappears. Yeah, I think there's something wrong.

Then when you offer money, they come back. Oh, here. I found it.

Oh, there are so many SDM people today. Okay, Andy Ngoc, would you like to read? Oh, no, this paragraph, please.

[Говорящий 2]
Yeah, nice job, Andy.

[Говорящий 1]
Nice, nice, nice. Okay, let's see. Yeah, the ultimate purpose of this statement at the beginning of the Vinaya Sutra, okay, is connected, dzel, to the nekab kyi gupa.

The temporary purpose. Yeah, the temporary purpose. So the ultimate purpose is to reach nirvana and no remainder.

The short-term purpose is to learn the book, is to master the book, okay? So he says the ultimate purpose is connected to the short-term purpose, the immediate purpose, okay? And then that connection is the connection that we mean when we say connection, when we talk about connection.

So that's the fourth of the four qualities, is the connection. Does this book have a subject matter? Yes.

Morality? Ethics? Does it have an immediate goal?

Yeah, we're trying to finish this study of this book and meditate on it. Does it have an ultimate goal? Yes, we'd like to get out of samsara.

Is there a connection between the book and the short-term goal and the long-term goal? Yes. Yeah, that's the fourth of the four qualities.

Very, very famous. In Tim's book, this is going to be really important, okay? NGAG DI DGOS SOGS CHOS SHI.

Xiaoping, say DGOS SOGS CHOS SHI. DGOS SOGS CHOS SHI Yeah, very, very famous. The four qualities which start with the goal, okay?

The four qualities which start with the goal, okay? And NANG RTZEN DU GYUR PA means... Yeah, in the list of the four, there's the connection, the connection between the first three, okay?

The book is connected to the short-term purpose. The short-term purpose is connected to the long-term purpose. And therefore, the first three have a connection which is the fourth element, okay?

Cool? All right, next paragraph. Who's going to read, Xiaoping?

Let me pick another victim. NGUYEN THUY From Vietnam. Would you like to read?

[Говорящий 2]
Yeah, thank you, Professor.

[Говорящий 1]
This... This... Time, please.

LONG GYI TE SONG KHA RIMS KHA GYIS ME SONG PAI NE ZET PI ONG GYI TE SONG KHA RIMS SPANG PAS LAB TGE DANG RIGS DROP BA VES TANG Mimmt di shot YIN TE Nice! Okay, good. The subject of this...

So, Xiaoping, GYUR GYUR means the subject of this book. Okay? What it talks about.

DENG PHYIR means what, Xiaoping, DENG PHYIR, DENG PHYIR? Shastra, okay, shastra. DENG PHYIR means shastra.

Is this a shastra or is it a sutra? Shastra. It's a shastra called a sutra.

It's both, actually. It's Vinaya Sutra, okay? Okay, good.

The subject matter of this is sutra. Discipline? Yeah, or vowed morality, vowed ethics, but for a certain purpose.

What's the purpose? Renunciation? Yeah, to get out of suffering, to get out.

So if you're just practicing normal morality without that motivation, it would not be NGES SBYONG GI TSUL KHRIMS, okay? It would not be the morality of this book, okay? The morality of this book has to be for the purpose of getting out of pain, okay?

Cool. Then he says, SEMS PAR, anybody? Example?

Yeah, and he says, we can just take, for example, the vowed morality of a DGEMMA. Yeah, and the poem that you translated for the last seven years had a long list of people who can follow this morality. They could be novice monk, novice nun, intermediate nun, full monk, full nun, one-day vow, lifetime vow, okay?

Cool? All right. All right, not bad.

Should I tell it to Word or to you? Actually, if you're smart enough to find Word and you don't have to pay a lot of money, then I think you get the credit. Okay, here we go.

We're going, we're going to go work some more, let's see. By the way, I'm at my mom's house. Oh.

And we're taking care of her for a couple of days. Yeah, okay. Who's going to read, Xiaoping?

Let me pick another one. Yumi, would you like to read? No, it's Mama Yumi.

Oh, Mama Yumi, would you like to read with your baby? Yumi, how's the baby? Yeah.

Yeah. Beautiful, okay. Yeah, see, she's very well-behaving grandpa.

Yeah. Yeah, she's still sleeping now. Oh, okay, good.

Let's finish quick. Pa, pa, pa, peace, bye, chin, no. In, dunes, try, be.

Cheers to be, cheers, good. Yes, thank you. Hey, Yumi.

Oh, that's so nice. That's my granddaughter. Okay, about this.

Yay. My baby's a little bit younger. Okay, so he wants to prove his statement.

What was his statement? That the morality that we're covering in this book is the kind of morality that you follow because you don't want to suffer, okay? The example is a fully ordained monk, okay?

Then he's going to prove it and he's going to quote another book. He's going to quote another book. So, what's gyak che mean, you guys?

Gyak che. Extensive. Extensive.

Yeah, the big commentary. There's a big commentary on Vinaya, okay? And this is a, we found it in John Brady's database and here's the full name.

Duway Doy Gyak Che Drelpa. It means the big commentary on the Vinaya Sutra, okay? And the author's name is Dharmamitra, okay?

Dharmamitra. All right. He said, Dear Joppa Jawa Nyi, Joppa Jawa means, do you want to know the, what is jodja, you guys?

The subject matter. Yeah, what's the subject matter of Shalpin's book? It's the sutra of Chodipadak.

What's dipadak? People? People who practice these kinds of teachings.

It's the moral, it's the ethical code of the followers of this dharma, which means Buddhist, okay? It's the ethical code of people who belong to this dharma. In Tim's book, we learned that dharma can be what?

Any religion? Yeah, any religion, okay? So chodipadak means the dharma of these guys, which means Buddhist, okay?

All right. And then his big comment was sutra needs sutra. What's that mean, Ben Kramer?

[Говорящий 3]
Sutra, I mean, I don't know the morality of morality.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, ethics is ethics.

[Говорящий 3]
Oh, good.

[Говорящий 1]
You know, you want me to explain ethics to you? Yes, ethics is ethics. Super helpful.

Thanks a lot. Okay, that's why we call it ethics. Okay, Ben.

Yeah. Is it possible that one of those is the literal meaning of ethics? Yeah, in fact, it probably has to be.

Yeah, yeah, okay. Now, which literal meaning we got to talk about, okay? Okay, drama means, that's why we call it ethics, okay?

If you want to know what ethics is, then think about the word ethics, and there's an answer there. There's an answer in the word itself, okay? What's the word for ethics?

[Говорящий 3]
Tultrim?

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, well, there's a couple of words. Yeah, well, there's a couple of words. Dholwa.

We got nishanga. We got nishanga. We got bharta, and we got shila, okay?

And shila is probably the most common one, okay? So, shila means, Xiaoping, shila means to cool off something. To cool something off.

Like something's too hot, and then you shila, you cool it off. He said, ethics means ethics. So, what's he saying?

Ethics means, chill out, cool it off, cool it off, okay? Ethics means cool it off. Cool what off?

Here, up here, ngenjung. Renunciation. Renunciation.

Yeah, cool off the suffering of life. Cool off the suffering of life. What?

What's the subject matter of the Mother Sutra? What's the subject matter of the Mother Sutra? It's ethics.

Why ethics? Because it's shila. And again, for Buddhist ethics, it's only ethics if it helps you to...

Get out of samsara? Get out of samsara. Cool off the poor man of samsara.

Cool, you guys? You got it? You all right?

[Говорящий 3]
Are we assuming, Geshe Michael, that the original Sanskrit, if we had it, would show some nuance between...

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and that's why it says here, need to check with Aisha. She's the Sanskrit finder master.

So, then we'll check the original, okay? But we can guess it's shila. We can guess it says shila.

Okay? Cool? So, what morality are you talking about?

Us guys' morality. Why? Because it's the one that cools you off.

Cool? You all right? Got it?

Say yes, Shelby. Okay, and there's the quotation from Master Dharmamitra. Okay?

And who's going to read next, Shelby? Oh, okay. Katrin, are you translating?

Oh, okay. Then Yuliya, I think she's translating. So, Alex Sun, would you like to read?

You are muted. Are you trying to read? Okay.

Okay. I think we have to. It's a moony.

I said it. Okay. Eric, would Eric Xia, would you like to read?

They say, so, ji, host, de, dek, di, di, di, di, dak, di, di, je, sas, hi, je, sas, long, se, long, hi, hi, so, krim, so, krim, kris, kris, sun, ha, ni, ni, jung, jung, ji, ji, so, so, krim, krim, What does SIGCHIOR mean, you guys? A word that's used like a synonym or something? Here it means the piece in the definition that you just gave.

It means a little piece in the definition that you just gave. He's going to refer to one little piece in the definition we just gave and what is the piece? It's CHOS DIPADAK.

By the way, Xiaoping, you have to pay me for fixing it because otherwise it's crazy. What's CHOS DIPADAK mean, you guys? Us guys?

Yeah, us. The guys of this version of the Dharma. The guys of this dharma.

Means Buddhist dharma. Buddhist dharma. This dharma, guys.

Why did they say this dharma, guys? Because we're talking, we're saying that TSUL KHRIMS, what's TSUL KHRIMS, Xiaoping? Morality?

Yeah, what's NGES RJUNGS? Renunciation. Tired of suffering.

Tired of suffering. Okay. NGES RJUNGS GI TSUL KHRIMS, the morality that you follow because you're tired of suffering.

It's only in the view of NANG BA. The lineage of Buddhists. Here it means minds.

In the minds. Mindstream. Only Buddhist people follow this kind of morality because they're tired of samsara.

Right? Okay. And it's not in CHI ROL PA'I RGYUD.

Non-Buddhist practitioners. Yeah, you won't find it. Will you find morality in CHI ROL PA'I RGYUD, Nick?

Sure, yeah. But will you find NGES RJUNGS GI TSUL KHRIMS? Not according to this.

Yeah, because they don't really understand what's samsara anyway. You see what I mean? Okay.

And then he repeats the part about, you know, I'm talking about the morality which you find with a full monk, for example. Okay. A full Buddhist monk, for example.

Okay. All right. Whose next reader shall be?

Jasper Lau. Would you like to read? You are muted.

Thank you so much. Nice job. Nice job, Jasper.

Okay. If we TEN on this CHEN CHE, what's that mean you guys? If we TEN on this TEN CHE...

Depend on the scripture, this classical commentary. Yeah, if we use this book, okay, we can easily RTOG PA NGES RJUNGS GI TSUL KHRIMS. Realize the morality of getting out. Yeah, along with the specific rules, the 253 or the 364 or whatever.

Okay. Easily. If we use this Vinaya Sutra, we can easily understand what is the morality which gets you out of suffering.

Okay. And that happens to be the GNAS SKABS KYI DGOS PA, not the NYING DGOS of this book. The short-term goal.

Yeah, that's the short-term goal of this book. What's the short-term goal of this book? Just understand the teachings on ethical, valid morality.

Okay. Just understand. That's the short-term goal.

And the RGYAL CHE RGYAL PA, which is the same commentary, the great commentary on Vinaya Sutra written by the early Indian Dharmamitra, he just says, look, the DGOS PA of this book is to TSUL KHRIMS BSTAN PA, is to what? To get the teachings on morality. It's to teach us what's morality.

He didn't say NYING DGOS, and he didn't say GNAS SKABS KYI DGOS PA, but which one is he talking about? SKABS KYI DGOS PA. Okay, and they added a PA here, STAN PA, instrumental, but it's easier without it.

And the original book from from the TENGGYUR doesn't have an instrumental. Okay, does not have an instrumental. Okay.

Okay, which I prefer. SHAL PUNG, who's going to suffer next? If they read the book, they get out of the suffering.

What would it mean with the instrumental? It's kind of showing, because the DGOS PA is shown by TSUL KHRIMS. Okay, yeah. The word TSUL KHRIMS. Okay, who's going to read, Xiaobing?

Okay, Wang Minyan, Cindy. Do you like to read? Okay, you are muted.

Oh, she says sorry in the test. Do you want to try? Do you want to try it?

Or no? No. Okay, she does not want to read.

Thank you, teacher. It's fine. DUNG LAS DUNG LAS, would you like to read?

Xiaobing, don't ask them if they like to read. Just tell them they have to read. Okay, please read.

Yeah. Nice. MA'I RANG BDAG LAS BSTAN GO'I RGYI RGYIN RNGO RGYIN TE Nice.

[Говорящий 3]
Thank you.

[Говорящий 1]
What's RGNYON DGOS, you guys? Long-term goal. Yeah, the ultimate goal.

We're going to read the sentence backwards to English, right Xiaoping? The ultimate goal of this danger... What's the danger, Xiaoping?

Of this commentary? Yeah, this classical commentary. The ultimate goal of this classical commentary.

Now, for $50, Xiaoping. RGNYON DGOS PHAG MA'I RGNYON DGOS Nirvana without remainder? Yay, $50.

Collect from Xiaoping. Yay! The ultimate goal of this shastra is to achieve nirvana without remainder, which you achieve by using this shastra.

That's the ultimate goal. What's the short-term goal? Learn Vinaya.

What's the long-term goal? PHAG MA'I RGNYON DGOS Get to nirvana without remainder. Ultimate nirvana.

Final nirvana. Cool. Now he's going to quote a book.

Who's going to read it, Xiaoping? Oh, okay. Kai Ling Lim, please read.

Okay, thank you. NYAT CHO RIL LA DAI YI GO PAI YANG GO PA JOK PA BAIT STI DE YANG NGE PA YUNG BA ZE HE MO PA SAN TE NGE PA YUNG BA NI MYA GAN LA DAG PHAG PA'I GSUNGS PA'I PHYIR Yay, great. Thank you.

Now, Xiaoping, in here there's a big pun. In here there's a big pun. He says, do you guys want to know the Gopa of the Gopas?

The commentary of the commentary? No. You want to know the purpose of the purpose.

It means the ultimate purpose. Do you guys want to know the purpose of the purpose? And then we said, the short-term goal was to learn ethics, which is related to getting out of samsara.

Right? We said the short-term goal was to learn ethics, which is related to getting out of samsara. Sorry, renunciation.

Okay? We said the short-term goal was not to learn ethics. It was to learn ethics which...

[Говорящий 2]
Renunciation.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, which will get you out of samsara. Sorry, which is motivated by renunciation. Okay?

We are not teaching ethics. We are teaching ethics which is motivated by renunciation. Okay?

That's Vinaya Sutra. It's not an ethics book. It's an ethics book for people who are tired of suffering.

Okay? Cool? Got it?

Now he says, don't forget, renunciation is nirvana. He said, don't forget, renunciation is nirvana. Anyone can explain?

Maybe because you have renunciation to get to nirvana? Ben Kramer said it. He said, if you get out, that is nirvana.

Yeah, Xiaoping, it's a pun. The word for renunciation is getting out. And that's also a synonym for nirvana itself.

You see? So the goal and the motivation is the same. Wait, wait, wait.

The goal and the motivation is the same. It's a joke. It's a joke.

You want to get out? Yeah, then get out. Okay?

Got it? Practice the morality which is aimed at getting out because that's the morality that leads to getting out. Okay?

Got it? Getting out is the motivation for the ethics because I'm tired of suffering. And then the goal of following the ethics is to get out.

So he's playing. He's making a play. He's making a pun on the word ngenjung, which means to get out.

The motivation. And the goal is to get out. Okay?

Got it? It's very cute. Okay?

All right. There's the original quotation from John Brady's Dharma. We have to bow down to John Brady.

Okay. Who's next Xiaoping? This is a short one.

Oh, okay. Christina? Kasika?

Would you like to read? Sure. Thank you.

Keep going. I'm sorry. I couldn't take out this bold part.

Skip the bold part. Lhagme. Yeah.

Lhagme. Nice. Okay.

I'll give $10 if anyone can explain what's the bold part. There's a picture.

[Говорящий 3]
Yeah, there's pictures in the root text.

[Говорящий 1]
There's pictures in the root text. Okay? When it says DD, it means drawing.

Drawing you do. Okay? There's a drawing of which is really this other person called Kelsang Gyatso.

Like that. The nyinggö, what's that Xiaoping? Before you finish today's suffering, you have to be able to tell me what's nyinggö.

Purpose? Yeah, ultimate purpose. Like nying is like shit of nyingbo.

What do you call that in Chinese word? Shi? Xing.

That's it? Xing. Oh, Xing.

Oh, Xing. Yeah, Xing. Nying means heart.

Oh, essence. Yeah. Okay.

So, nyinggö means ultimate purpose. The ultimate purpose. Okay?

The ultimate purpose of this shastra. Shastra. Tantra.

Is the hlakme nyampe. You know that one Xiaoping. Hlakme nyampe.

Oh, it's the nirvana without remainder? Sure. That belongs to three different groups of people.

It's the nirvana which belongs to three different groups of people. Nyantas, Rangyos, and Sangyos. That's the three tracks Xiaoping.

What are they? Hinayana. Yeah, listener track, then self-made track, and then Buddha track, which is Bodhisattva track.

So, he says, I don't care. Either one of those three nirvanas is okay. Okay?

Even the lower one. Even the lower one is okay. Now, very important, and it's going to be important in words text, which we're having after this as dessert.

Okay? It's a very tooth-breaking dessert. Words text.

Hlakme kye ne kap su. What's that mean, you guys? Ben, ne kap su.

At that...

[Говорящий 2]
At that point, in this context?

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, at that point when you reach hlakme nyang de, nirvana without remainder, yeah, when you reach nirvana without remainder, what happens to the gyun of your rikpa? It's cut off. The flow of your mind is cut off, Xiaoping.

Who's school? Who's school? My homework school.

Yeah, it's just like when someone asks you a homework question before class. The mind flow stops completely. Okay?

So, listen, Xiaoping, in your school, final nirvana is partly when your rikpa, that's like dorje chupa, dorje chupa, jing gang jing. At? Yeah, when your mind stream is cut off, then you're finished.

What's the famous joke that the higher school will ask the lower school? Well, where are the guys who reach nirvana? Where's the guy who reach nirvana if it's the end of the guy?

Where can you find the other? Okay. And now there's a very interesting word.

I'll give you a hundred bucks, okay? You ready? All right, you got serious now.

I can see.

[Говорящий 2]
THAR THUG PHET PA GSUM All paths lead to the same place in the end.

[Говорящий 1]
GSUM They lead to three different places in the end. In this school, it's not true that all paths lead to the same place. All three paths lead to three places.

THAR THUG PHET PA GSUM Not THAR THUG PHET PA Yeah, the higher school, Xiaoping, the higher school say it doesn't even matter what religion you follow in the whole universe. In the end, you will reach the same place. But these guys believe ultimately there's three different kinds of goals.

One, listener goal. One, self-made Buddha goal. And three, bodhisattva track goal.

They say three tracks and three different goals. Three different harmony. And by the way, when we get to Tim's book, we're going to cover why THAR THUG PHET PA GSUM, which means what, you guys?

All paths lead to the same place. Okay, cool. All right, who's next, Xiaoping, for suffering?

Yinghui, please read. Excellent, excellent reading. Awesome, awesome.

Now, this is a very... This is the start of a big argument, Xiaoping. It's just like when Stanley comes home and...

If you tend on this venture, you guys, what does it mean, Nick? To rely upon this possible commentary. Yeah, you will get the khenpa, Nick, of a drachoma.

You will get the knowledge of an arhat. Yeah, if you use this book, you will reach the state of mind of an arhat, okay? Now, Xiaoping, is that a goal of your book?

Absolutely. He says, Nyinga Mayan. That's not the ultimate purpose.

He says it's not the ultimate goal. Because that would be hlak che. Your author says it's not the ultimate goal of this book to reach arhat.

Not the ultimate goal. Oh, sorry. Here's the key word.

You want the key word, word? The ultimate goal of this book is not to reach the state of mind of an arhat. Because you would have no mind if you were a hlakme.

Good. Got it, Xiaoping? It's a joke.

Okay, I'll say it again. You ready, Xiaoping? The ultimate goal of this book is not the state of mind of an arhat.

Make sense or not? In this school, it makes sense. Yeah, it makes sense, because he doesn't have a state of mind.

Okay, it's very fun. It's a very fun debate. We're starting a fun debate.

I don't care whether you think it's fun or not. Okay. It's not the nyingdra.

It's not the ultimate purpose of this book. To reach the state of mind of a person who's an arhat, it's not the ultimate goal of this book, to reach that state of mind. Because that state of mind, nyik, is not a thak tok gi nyin dang.

It's not a good quality that you reach at the end. Yeah, it's not an ultimate quality. It is not an ultimate quality.

Maybe it's a step towards the ultimate quality, but it's not the ultimate quality. The ultimate quality is when it's gone. Got it?

Cool. All right. I think we got room for...

We have some more time, Xiaoping. Who's got a minute? Rosanna, Singh, would you like to read?

Keshala. Yeah. Isn't this statement a little weird?

If he said thak tok thekpa sum, and now he's saying you should reach the mind of an arhat, because if you're a Buddha, do you blink out too? Yeah, it's just another arhat. But do you blink out?

So how could that be thak tok? I think you've got to say that they're the ultimate arhat. But they would have to be gone too, right?

No Buddha either? Yeah, they go away too. It's a good point.

And by the way, it comes up in the Abhidharma. In fact, the person who reaches... Any person who reaches arhat in the Abhidharma is an ultimate gelo, whether they have the two vows or not.

So, okay. Who's next, Xiaobing? Rosanna?

Do you hear me? Yes, yeah. Please read.

Okay. Great, okay. Shall I start from...

Yep. From up here? Yep.

Okay. Okay. I need to shorten here the image of...

Okay. Yeah, good. Nice.

Very nice reading. Thank you, Geshe-la. Xiaobing, it says, my position is definitely correct because when the root text...

What's the root text? Vinaya Sutra? Yeah, when the Vinaya Sutra says, and I quote, concerning the morality of getting out, okay?

Concerning the morality of getting out, wang tu che, concerning that morality, there's a reason why they say, getting out. Okay? There's a reason why they say getting out.

And by the way, the word for getting out is definitely getting out. Definitely getting out. ngenpar jungwa Definitely getting out.

So he's playing with that word again. Sometimes it means renunciation. Sometimes it means nirvana.

And here it means getting out. Definitely getting out. Got it?

Okay? Definitely getting out. So this guy, our author, who is our author?

Panchen Lodro Leksong. Nice, nice, nice, nice. Lodro Leksong.

Yeah, Panchen Lodro Leksong. He says, when the sutra says definitely getting out, okay? When the book says definitely getting out, it means, definitely means, dönme sawa.

Word? Do you know that one? Dönme sawa?

Beyond any shadow of a doubt. Beyond any shadow of a doubt. Okay?

Beyond any question. Definitely, the tar tuk form of what we want to achieve. Tar tuk form.

Yeah. When you talk about the subject matter of this book, it has to be the ultimate form of what we want to achieve. Got it, Xiaoping?

We're not talking about what you want to achieve. We're talking about the ultimate form of what you want to achieve. Therefore, it must be a state where you have no...

Remainder? Mind. No mind.

No mind. Okay? Do you see the pan word?

He's pulling the pan again. He's pulling the pan again. He says definitely.

Look. The root text said definitely. What's definitely?

It means ultimate. Okay. When you're talking ultimate, it has to be the cessation of the mind stream.

Cool? Xiaoping, he's going back to the word renunciation. The word renunciation has a piece in it called definitely.

Definitely goes beyond. He says, why the heck do you think it says definitely? It means ultimate.

Therefore, it cannot be referring to what for $50? The nirvana where you still have a mind? Say it better.

An arhat state of mind. A thought-shaking young dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

An arhat state of mind. It cannot be referring to an arhat state of mind because it says definitely. That means demisawa, beyond any shadow of a doubt.

That means ultimate, ultimate, ultimate. Okay? Ultimate.

Ultimate is when you have no mind left over. That's the ultimate goal of all these classes. No mind left over.

Word, I think I owe you $50. Collect from Xiaoping. I'll put it with Nick.

Again, I have a question. Yes. What is the Sanskrit for renunciation?

What's the word he's playing with in the Sanskrit? I don't remember. Okay.

You can look it up. I used to know. We learned it before.

What's the famous quotation? I know more. I forgot more books than you ever knew words.

Are you a diva? I'm kidding. I forget.

I got it. I'm looking it up. Okay.

Who's next? We still have a few minutes. Sarah said it.

It's vairagya. We're out of time, Geshe-la. Oh, vairagya means to stop your raga, to stop your desire.

Okay, cool. We'll let Xiaoping go. Xiaoping.

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She's not free.

[Говорящий 1]
She's going to have a big beer and a steak. Just kidding. She's going to record that.

And we are going to lead a discussion for 15 minutes. Yes. We're going to use this.

Okay? I'm going to turn off my mic because it's kind of noisy here. Okay.

Here we go. So in this class, we talk a lot about the ultimate goals and the pan of nirvana, renunciation. So anybody would like to start to share?

Is there anything? Maybe just mention one thing you want to bring home that you think could help your life or help your work. Just one brief point.

Me, it's that I'm just so happy that I've been following the Middle Way School because otherwise I just, you know, my goal would be to blink out of existence. So I'm very happy about that. And thank you, Keshi, Michael, and Venerable Jigme, for giving me the vows to be able to do so.

Thank you, Venerable Bhalla. Who's it is? Oh, yeah.

I can see. Oh, sorry. Go shopping.

Oh, easy, please. Oh, yeah. Something that stood out for me was about the motivation for the ethics.

Like we're not just talking about ethics. We're talking about there being a certain motivation behind your ethics. And I was thinking a lot about that, about, I don't know, how does that change it?

How does it change, you know, being nice to somebody with kind of no motivation or just kind of an ambiguous motivation versus the reason I'm doing this is because of this specific motivation. And in this case, it's, you know, renunciation, but you could think about other motivations you could have as well. So that's what stood out to me.

Yeah, great. Yeah, usually sometimes when we start to do good things, but we forgot what's the ultimate motivation. Another one, please.

Shuken, please. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Before I say something, I would like to remind all the ACIM TTs, please go to the Zoom because your quiz is starting now. So better be not late. Okay.

On top of that, since young, I have learned that to be happy in life, I should follow rules. In this case, morality. And I've been following rules for this only one purpose.

So I have been a good boy. I have been a good student. I've been a good child, you know, because I just don't want to get into trouble.

But learning this Vinaya, I realized that besides that simple motivation of not getting into trouble, knowing the ultimate goal is even more important. So I think especially in today's class, we really need to know why the real purpose, the ultimate purpose of us following the rules is more than just to be happy and out of trouble. So that is what I want to say.

Oh, great. Thank you, Shuken. Hi.

I have a feeling that this idea of renunciation and getting out and achieving the goals are all the same. And I noticed that when my renunciation gets strong and powerful, indeed, I'm working harder to keep my vows, to follow the rules, because when I forget to do that, I suffer more. So the renunciation is a good tool to keep me on track to achieve the goals.

Cool. Thank you.

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I love the part about the pun, the fun pun, the getting out and the getting out, that no matter how hard it is, remember to bring fun into it. And it'll be more of a joyful mind to get there.

[Говорящий 1]
Cool. Now, next time we have a code word between us, among us, getting out. Okay.

Another one, please.

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I think that's one. Go ahead, Chloe.

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Oh, I would just say it might not be rules. It's the shortcuts. It's the guidance to the shortcut to the end of the path in terms of what the vows are.

They are not rules. They are the shortcuts to get to the end point. Thank you, Krishna, for doing the vows, too.

Cool. It reminds me of my first book. At the beginning, it talked about there's a metaphor that Vinaya is a highway which will bring you to the city of freedom.

Anatole, please. I like the power of emphasis in this school. And I know that we ultimately know that we're not supposed to disappear, but it's like some kind of extreme disgust with the world the way it is in the broken sense.

[Говорящий 2]
And I like that they just take us to that place and say there's really nothing in this kind of world that we want.

[Говорящий 1]
So it's a little bit extreme to say we disappear, but it kind of drives the point home. Oh, cool. Geshe-la, it reminds me maybe it's a good band.

Getting Out is a good rock and roll band name. Yeah, yeah. I'm wondering how this system could stay around for 700 years if they didn't see anybody reach it, right?

That's what I'm curious. It's supposed to be someone's supposed to disappear, right? But probably they left a body.

I'm just curious how people can follow it for 700 years and nobody reached the goal. I don't know. Maybe they see a rich rambler body and they just left their clothes.

Yeah, okay. Okay, could be. I'm just guessing.

Yeah, I just mean nobody disappeared, but maybe in their perception the people disappeared. Geshe-la, I did read some ancient book. They talk about people fly away.

They reach the ultimate goal and they fly away to the paradise or they achieve rainbow body and only their clothes stay. Yeah, I think that's possible. Maybe it seemed like their mind just stopped, right?

Maybe if you are unhappy enough, if you're really depressed, then if you can just stop, you feel happy. Anyone? We still have seven minutes.

Yeah, I was wondering the idea of disappearing. Could this be referencing the sense of I? The strong sense of I, me, and mine gets completely negated, so the concept of a concrete self is gone.

So all that's left is clear light and interdependence. Maybe that's what they mean. Anybody want to share anything on this topic or other topic?

Anything you want to bring home is fine. At least your credit card debt would also stop, I think. This one?

Your credit card debt would also stop. Oh, that's a benefit. Okay, next one, please.

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I guess they say sometimes like we don't. There are certain words that they don't use when you talk about an enlightened being, like when you use a word like pharma, you don't apply that word to enlightened beings. You talk about merit or goodness.

[Говорящий 2]
And it seems like when we talk about the mind in an ordinary way, that the sort of thinking that an enlightened being does is just so very different from the sort of thinking that I do. Like when Jetsun Kappa talks about conceptual or non-conceptual, it's not that you're not having concepts or ideas.

[Говорящий 3]
We're always having concepts or ideas, but that an idea in your mind which doesn't think of things as coming at you instead of from you is so radically different than any other sort of conception you've had before that we call it non-conceptual because all the other concepts we've had before were wrapped up in thinking that things were coming at us.

[Говорящий 2]
And so, yeah, maybe there's this way of talking about mind in a way that when they're defining mind in the lower school, it's almost like they're saying broken mind, that that's written in there, that you have such a radically different state of mind that we don't even call it mind anymore. It's something way cooler. And so we say that stopped.

[Говорящий 1]
Oh, wow. Cool thinking. Thank you, Ben.

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Maybe, maybe.

[Говорящий 1]
Colleen, please. Well, I just, Ben inspired me to think about the goals because they said there are three paths to three goals. I just want to bring up the importance of what's your goal?

You know, the khatuk, you know, you can achieve your goal, but if your goal is to just go to McDonald's, that's not a good enough goal, you know, versus a goal to help all beings. You still do the work. You still drive the car.

You still use the field. But your end goal, you know, can be so different. The travel may be the same.

So I'm very lucky to be on the sanghya path, the bodhisattva path. Thank you. How does that fit, though, with what we were talking about, about all roads lead to the same place?

Like, how does wanting to go to McDonald's, like, it must though, right? Thank you, Lindsay. Anyone else?

So Lindsay, you're saying going to McDonald's is one of the three paths? No, no, it's just Chloe's example. So there are three paths, right?

And then also we were talking about how the higher schools, and we're going to see it in Tim's book, says that ultimately, like, it doesn't even matter what religion you follow. Like, ultimately, all paths will lead to the same place. And so Chloe was talking about how your goal matters so much.

You know, if you have a goal to go to McDonald's, like, you can definitely achieve that. But if you have a goal to, I don't know, like, fuel yourself so you can have more energy to help people, you know, that's a different reason for going to McDonald's. But we were also talking about ultimately everything does lead to the same place.

And so I was just throwing it out there if anybody had any thoughts about how it is that that would happen. And, like, how could you maybe have one of these lower goals and how would that take you through? I think my question still stands, though.

I don't think that when they say all goals, all paths lead to the same goal, that they're talking about, you know, standing on one leg for 20 years or going to McDonald's and eating as many, you know, or whatever. But of the Buddhist paths, they all lead to the same goal.

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Well, the beauty of going to McDonald's is it doesn't work. And so mistaken paths do reveal themselves, and you can go through a lot of attempts to life that just don't give you the results that you want, like nourishment, for example. Now that there's no food in McDonald's, you fill your belly and you feel sick and you get ill and you age faster, which is not what food is supposed to do.

And failed paths may help you to get closer to what works.

[Говорящий 3]
And then in the end, when you understand, when you try the things that work, it seems like you're going to naturally get stuck with those because nothing produces results but the truth.

[Говорящий 1]
Okay. So it kind of goes with that saying that misunderstanding must fail. It must end.

[Говорящий 3]
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[Говорящий 1]
Okay. Thank you.

[Говорящий 3]
Yeah.

[Говорящий 2]
That's my guess.

[Говорящий 1]
Great. Okay. It's great to end this debate, this discussion, that the truth will always win.

Thank you. I'll leave the floor to Nico Ben. Hey, Xiaoping.

Hi. This is my handsome brother and my daughter. I'm the handsome one.

Oh. Hi, we met before.

[Говорящий 2]
See?

[Говорящий 1]
We're very similar. Yeah. I have partial hair air conditioning.

He has complete air conditioning. I put hair from there to here. And he's been taking good care of my mom for two months, three months now.

Thank you. Hello, everybody. He's taking a break today.

Thank you. The cavalry is here. He hired me indeed.

Yeah. And I'm going to go watch some baseball in Arizona tomorrow. Yeah.

And he promised we're going to have a good dinner.

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Okay.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah. So nice to see you all. Oh, I got to see the news.

Yeah. History World News. I see the news.

Thank you, Xiaoping. By the way, don't forget two paragraphs to translate for next time. Yes.

Thank you. Bye-bye. Thank you.

Bye-bye.

[Говорящий 3]
Thank you. Thank you, Allison. Thank you, Kesha, Michael.

Thank you, live translators. Peachtree World News, we have you standing by and ready somewhere, yes?

[Говорящий 2]
Yes.

[Говорящий 3]
Yay. Thank you, Juan. Take it away.

[Говорящий 2]
Thank you as well, Ben. Thank you very much to everyone for your time and spending this time together. So, yeah, some of you may be here to watch the news, so here are the news.

What's happening? This is a quick overview of some of the activities that are happening in the World View Network these days, okay? So, Gina, thank you so much.

You always are helping us. You're a very, very, very valuable team member of this team. Thank you very much, Gina.

She's going to be helping us showing the materials. No, not yet. Yes.

Thank you. First, okay, Diamond Mountain. As you may know, this is a very, very beautiful, quiet place, ideal for having some retreats, like silence time, contemplation, meditation, study.

So, we just want to keep this idea in your mind of if any time you feel like it's the right time in your life for doing retreat, please consider doing it here. We just want to share with you this QR code. I think it's little, but it will still work.

I have tried myself in similar cases, and you can get more information about how to do retreat, what the price is, when are the dates available, just for you to keep in mind. This is a wonderful place. I, myself, have done many retreats there.

Beautiful. I have done other places, too. I think Diamond Mountain is better.

So far, I haven't found a better, more conducive place, and I really recommend it. And not only that, now we can go to the next picture. You can also organize events there.

In the next picture, it's about you organizing events, like not silence retreats or silent retreats, maybe, but more like whole events. You know, you bring a team of people, a group. They will support you to host your event over there.

You can have different topics. Many of you are, like, now leaders of different worldview organizations, so this is a great place. Actually, some of our friends are already planning on doing things like this, getting their own group, bringing them to Diamond Mountain.

They will support you very, very well, and having their programs over there. They are doing this these days, so check it out if it's an interesting idea for you. Please consider Diamond Mountain Retreat Center.

Okay, this is just general, how to say, context on Diamond Mountain. Now we go to a few events that are happening. Oh, yeah.

Well, before that, also Diamond Mountain these days is supporting the Apache program, which helps the Apache people that used to own all these lands, especially here in Arizona, to preserve their traditions, to preserve their culture, their knowledge, their wisdom as well, right? So they are like, how do you say, seed partners. Diamond Mountain and Geshe Michael are supporting them in this very beautiful mission.

So last time we show you a video on this project, but if you are interested to support this or be part of this project, here is also the QR code. You will be supporting also Diamond Mountain and helping a very big amount of people to preserve their culture, their traditions, their wisdom, and their lineages. So this is part of our Diamond Mountain projects.

They have many. We will be talking about more projects they have in future programs and days. Okay, so now, next thing, we're going to have a very cool event happening in Mexico.

So you can start planning now that it's like many months in advance. If you want to be part of this, I really encourage you. I always have great fun in Mexico retreat.

As you know, me and many people in these organizations come from Mexico. Some people even you won't believe, but they are from Mexico. Important people from DCI are from Mexico.

Anyways, we want to invite you to consider coming to this program. It's going to happen on July. Geshe Michael is going to be there.

Very beautiful. We're going to keep studying the steps on the path. It's a great time to visit Mexico.

Great weather, great culture, great food, great friends, great wisdom as well. So as you know, the teachers in Mexico are having now once a year this Latin America tour. And that's the next thing we want to talk about.

Just to let you know, they are planning the next Latin America tour. Last year was a great success. They were just visiting countries for first time.

Now, people want more. They're going to be visiting again. The dates are soon to come.

But if you feel interested to support this project, you can use this QR code and get more information about maybe how to be a sponsor or maybe even to go in one of these tours with them. Let's see what happens. Maybe, yeah, we have a beautiful chance to visit one of these countries as well.

That's Mexico. And one more thing happening in Mexico. Our friends from Green Stretch Pen.

Next picture, please. You know, they are doing a very, very wonderful job because they are helping thousands and thousands and thousands of kids with knowledge on how to eat better, how to take care of their health, mental and physically. They are doing exercises.

They are learning to do these wonderful smoothies to enhance their health. But also they are learning about the pen. So they are really, you know, like having a big impact in Mexico.

Thank you very much for all the people who support this program. Thank you very much to Anatole, to Aisha and to Kitty, who are tirelessly working on spreading this project all over Mexico. And if you want to know more about it or you want to contact them, here is some information you can use.

They are doing really, really wonderful job. And I just want to thank you very much for everything you're doing over there. Thank you.

Thank you. Okay. Next picture, please.

Yes. Okay. Sedona College Alumni Association now is looking for some volunteer help.

I really like this advertisement. You don't have to be crazy to join the team. They will train you.

Don't worry. So, yeah. Next picture, please.

You can show what they are actually looking for these days as volunteers. They are looking for alumni outreach manager, membership coordinator, program director. It sounds really, really cool.

If you would like to help them, Sugeng and Xin Tian are running this project. There is email. You can email them.

Skaa-downreunionatsedonacollegeinternational.com. And contact them. I think it's going to be very, very worth it to be part of this.

I have been watching some videos of what they've been doing in different events. And it looks so fun to be part of it. So, thank you as well for being doing this.

And if you feel attracted to this project, contact them, please. Next picture. Okay.

As you know, something big is happening. Kyoto is, like, blossoming these days with so much wisdom and fun and love. So, many members of the World View organizations are planning events there.

And I just want you to remind you a little bit of what's happening these days there. June 4th to 8th is going to be a Steps on the Path event over there. You can start planning your trip.

And there is going to be another one happening in December. It's the next one, the next picture. Yes, this is happening on December 2nd to the 7th with Geshe Michael on it, as you can see in the picture.

You can also start planning ahead, checking if you need visas, doing everything you need to be there. But if you have the great luck and you have the amazing opportunity to do this even sooner, next picture, please, come to the one happening in a few weeks from now. Yes, exactly.

This one is happening in March. March 19 is going to start. Many very experienced teachers are going to be there sharing this ancient wisdom in Kyoto.

It's great because this content is good for certification. You're going to study about 15 courses there. They're planning to do 15 courses over this certain period of time.

You can sign up. You can study this beautiful, beautiful ancient wisdom. You can share and spend time with good friends and have fun while you learn very, very meaningful content.

Happening March 19. If you can make it, some countries don't need a visa. For example, I'm Mexican.

I don't need a visa to go to Japan. God bless. So just jump on it.

Try to join us. Talk to Tim Lowenhaupt. He will give you more information.

And lastly, we want to have a special talk with a very dear friend of us, Ward. He is going to present a very cool program happening very soon. Ward, are you there?

[Говорящий 1]
I am.

[Говорящий 2]
Yay. How are you doing?

[Говорящий 1]
I'm great. Thanks, Juan.

[Говорящий 2]
Wonderful. I believe you. Now that you know the ancient secrets of Asian and Chinese medicine, I bet you're doing very well.

So I just want to talk to you briefly. We show a very cool interview we had with you last week about some content on Chinese medicine, actually. So can you share with us what are you planning?

We know you're planning something cool with this. Tell us. Invite us, please.

We want to go.

[Говорящий 1]
Oh, awesome. Thank you, Juan. Yeah, I've been studying Chinese medicine for about 21 years and practicing.

I became a doctor about 12 years ago. And I wanted to share kind of the distilled wisdom of what I've learned. And it's very practical.

People can start using it immediately. They can help their friends, their family, their pets, whoever, right away. And so I just made a course.

It's just five classes, ten hours. And in it, we're going to learn some key information that's fun and practical to learn to help ourselves, especially as practitioners. Sometimes people practice a lot.

They want to meditate a lot. They want to study a lot. And what happens is they get a kind of anxiety that's really particular.

Oh, sorry, translators. A kind of anxiety that's very particular to meditating a lot. And it's called lung.

And it's very uncomfortable. It's hard to deal with. And so I want to teach people how to work with that, cure themselves of that, help other people who are going through that.

That way we plant through medicine, plant great seeds to meditate well, to be calm. And we're also practicing many of our vows and just the Buddhist ethic overall, which is to help people and make people feel better.

[Говорящий 2]
Thank you very much, Ward. I myself am very interested about this. I'm planning to sign up for sure.

And just maybe a very, very general question. Like, is this like an introductory course? Or are people going to be learning the main principles on what it is, how it works, and how to start applying it?

[Говорящий 1]
Exactly. It's very intro. Anyone can start with it.

I just took, I did a beta with four people. I took them through the course. And I've been asking them how it's working for them after a few months.

They love it. It's helping them a lot. And it's fun.

And it's a place to connect to. It's a place for people to talk about their issues and an opportunity for people to help each other, support each other.

[Говорящий 2]
Great. So it's going to be two hours, no, four hours a week, right?

[Говорящий 1]
I'm taking off on March 19th because it's my birthday.

[Говорящий 2]
How old are you now?

[Говорящий 1]
I'll be 45.

[Говорящий 2]
You look like 33. I don't look a day over 44. The good thing is you look like 33, but you have the money of a 66.

[Говорящий 1]
I get my money from a 66.

[Говорящий 2]
Okay. Thank you, Gord. By the way, next class is with you.

So from here, you're going to take it. But I really want to invite you all to give yourself a chance if you feel interested on this topic. Because I have known Gord for many, many years.

And he's really just a great teacher, a great practitioner, very good friend. These days, he's even funnier than he used to be. So it's even better, you know.

Yeah, but he is really great. And he has helped me also with some, I don't know, medicine things or health things. And I think he's really good.

He has good hands in a good sense. Okay. So let's go with your word.

Thank you very much. And we'll see you sometime soon. Next Saturday.

Oh, yeah. We want to invite you to this event as well. Happening on March the 6th.

We are planning our next monthly event. Sign up. It's going to be very meaningful.

Hopefully. God bless you, Gord. We'll try.