Вордсмит — Книга 2: Трудные места школы «Ум только», занятие 71

[Speaker 1]
We're live. Word, we're having an advanced pizza eating class here. What?

I have a doctorate in pizza eating. Oh, I should have invited you. I'm sorry.

I know. I lost. I got lost in the mail again.

OK, we're looking forward to your class. I am. We sure would.

Paula's here to answer all the homework questions. OK, the homework is from like three months ago. That's OK.

Tonkappa's been waiting. OK, that's true. OK, we'll start the homework.

It is quite ancient, but. We can't see your word. Yeah, it's kind of nice.

You can't see. Can't see what? We just see a blank screen.

Oh, see, it's like this.

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Can you turn your video on and off?

[Speaker 1]
My video is on. It's been on the whole time.

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There you go.

[Speaker 1]
You just can't. There you are. Yeah, nice.

Yeah. Lovely. Easy homework.

Yeah. A little frozen. My internet might be unstable.

All right, ready? I don't know if you can hear me. I can turn my video off.

We can hear you. So far, so good. We can hear you.

Oh, wonderful. OK. And we're ready.

OK, great. Your homework is emptiness. Indeed.

What happens to the mental awareness when it is in a meditation that is beyond the world? Oh, word, we cannot see your homework. Oh, it's shared.

My internet might be unstable. I don't know why. No one can see it?

We cannot hear you. Oh, there it is. There it is.

We got it. We got it. It took the sunlight and was in the wrong position.

All right. To engage mudabarna. When a non-Buddha is in that kind of meditation, their mental consciousness is temporarily not ascertaining.

Great, yep, that's right. Ascertaining. I love to ascertain.

Number two, what is two in total referring to in our quote from A Raveling Which We Thought, which you do not remember at all? No.

[Speaker 2]
That reminds me.

[Speaker 1]
Thank you. What is two in total? It's difficult.

What does that mean? Your thoughts and your awareness of your thoughts. That E actually probably means negative consciousness, because that's what we're talking about.

But the other part's right. All right. OK, here we go.

Why is it considered impossible in some systems that the negative consciousness is flowing together with the mental awareness during a meditation that is unstained? No, you can't answer again. I'm not even going to try.

Why is unstained and a negative consciousness not go together? Because the negative consciousness is necessarily stained. Pretty much.

Pretty much. In this section, they were talking about the core. What's core mean?

It's terms of negative consciousness in this section, Nick. The terms that come along with it. The mental functions that are stained.

Yeah, exactly. And we've been talking about them for months. Years.

There's four of them. Due to the fact that it results in the seeds that's generated by the four negative emotions that are in the negative consciousness. This is retinue.

All right. OK, here's some fun vocab. I don't know if it's sexy, but it's fun.

The screen is not catching up with, for whatever reason, it's lagging a bit. So bear with us. I don't know of this.

Yes, bear with me as well. I'll read it. Neljor Chöpe Loponni.

Who are they? Lopon? Oh, here we go.

Lopon. Oh, oh, oh. The two masters of yoga, of activities.

Yogachara. Yeah, the two. Oh, it's Master Bhaskarbandhu and Master Asanga?

Yeah, probably. I think it's word until cover. This is not Jeopardy, by the way.

I forgot a lot. I forgot a lot between lives, good.

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Who are Masters Bhaskarbandhu?

[Speaker 1]
Yes, that's correct. $800 to...

[Speaker 2]
It's our daily double.

[Speaker 1]
OK. OK. Yala?

[Speaker 2]
Make it 100.

[Speaker 1]
Gibson says in 100? Make it. Yeah, it's like one in 100 or something.

For $100. No, but it's an idiom that means in the unlikely event. Yeah, exactly.

There's like a little chance. Yeah, there's a one in 100 chance that. Yeah.

OK. OK, Korwa Jisipa. That's kind of a joke, right?

Kind of. In that all of this is kind of funny. No, you can say Sipa Jisipa.

Yeah, right. That's what I was wondering too. This is right from the book.

If you have a problem, you have to mail a letter to Jason Kappa. 1400 BD. How long we'll be in Samsara or something or however many.

Yeah, as long as Samsara goes on. Right, for however. Yeah, until the end of society.

Wow, nice. Geshe-la, here's my bad translation of this hard book. I love bad translations.

It makes me look smart. Nice. You're going to be a genius after this.

All right. Should I read the West Changi for our audience? All right, here we go.

Okay. Yeah, and the, the book is really good. Yeah, and the big question is, can foundation consciousness become totally purified in the mind-only school?

Don't forget that foundation consciousness is what nyunyi, negative mind, focuses on and thinks it's me. Me. Yeah, me and mind.

So it's a very cool question. would it be possible to purify foundation consciousness? The question is going to come up soon.

Would a Buddha then have a foundation consciousness? It's a very interesting question to me. Okay, Deyang.

Moreover, ,BDAG MED PA NGON TSA'I DU MTHONG BA'I, The mind that sees lack of self-direction while in meditation. ,YI GZHAN GNYENG CHAGS KYI TSE, Yeah, while in meditation. ,BSAGS MED DU RGYUR BA, It's unstained.

,KHUN ZHIG LA RANG GI BSAGS MED KYIS SA BA NI, ,GNAS PA LAS RGYUR PAR ZHIN TE, I think it's in the place where it's unstained. ,GNAS PA LAS RGYUR PAR ZHIN TE, There's a very unusual idiom word, and I'm not sure this is it, but GNAS GYUR means transformation. Yeah, it does.

Do we have it here? I don't know. Maybe not.

But let's do it logically. Let's do the translation logically. So you are seeing emptiness directly.

Your mind is in deep meditation. That mind has become unstained using Abhidharma language. And then, the SA BANS in the KUN ZHIG, while the Arya is seeing emptiness directly, what happens to the seeds in the foundation consciousness?

,BSAGS MED KYIS SA BANS, ,GNAS PA LAS RGYUR PAR ZHIN TE, It's tempting to think of it as transformed, meaning they switch. They were stained and now they're unstained, somehow. Because the mind that holds them has become unstained, do the contents of that mind, which is all your mental seeds, do they become unstained?

Do they transform? This suggests that they do. And at that point in time, while the Arya is seeing emptiness directly, for example, the YI also.

Yeah, nice. Tim said NYON YI. And this whole section as word wellness, he's going to have to make this executive decision, which YIs are referring to NYON YI and Tsongkapa's being lazy to mention the word YI.

And he just says YI, as he did in the title. The title of the book he names, Thought and Foundation Consciousness. And he doesn't say negative thought.

He says, oh, they know. Thanks. Okay.

I think it's what all the cool kids did in Mind Only. I guess so, yeah. I think they were just trying to save paper.

Feel the intent of the sentence. The seeds inside your seed-holding consciousness transform into pure. And at the same time, the something becomes pure.

Mind or negative consciousness. I messed up mind, because they usually go together, KUN ZHI and NYON YI, in the title of this book. So I'm saying if you feel the sentence, it's probably saying NYON YI.

Yeah, messed up mind. Also gets, by the very nature of things, CHEN NYID KYIS, the seeds there become what? They transform, or they exist.

Yeah, they also transform. He's suggesting that the seeds in messed up consciousness become pure, while you're seeing emptiness directly. Okay?

Which is weird. All right? And then that messed up state of mind, along with KUN ZHI, starts engaging as SAK MED BA'I.

No. Unstained. Somehow, during the direct perception of emptiness, in the mind-only school, both of these two extra kinds of consciousness, which is storehouse consciousness, wow, there's a biplane going by, storehouse consciousness and its friend, negative consciousness, which is focusing on storehouse consciousness, and says, this is me, they both somehow become purified, temporarily, during the direct perception, which doesn't last more than 20 minutes, usually. So for 20 minutes, everything is fine. Okay?

Yeah, good. Okay. They become a state of consciousness, both going along together.

Yeah, nice. I would say, yeah, somehow, they both temporarily become pure as snow. Okay.

Yeah, now, what's a natural question you might ask? What is the natural negative consciousness? Yeah, when you come out, do they go back to black or something?

Do they go back to plain old bad seeds? I don't know. Let's see.

Next paragraph. This is a nice word. Let's go to the next one.

Oh, thank you. Okay. Yeah, we're not seeing your translation.

It's not scrolling. Oh, I don't know. I can put it in the chat.

I don't know what's going on. It's like it's set up by Slow Boat to China or something. By the way, that's an idiom, actually.

It's called Slow Boat to China. It means they're... Oh, now it's...

Okay. Now, de le lang means what? What happens after you get out of meditation?

Yeah, this is the word lang, which means to get up out of your bed when you wake up. In meditation, the study of meditation, it refers to coming out of meditation. It's like coming out of a dream or something.

So when you come out of your what meditation? Yeah, seeing emptiness. You get sakhcheki sambhas come back.

Your stained mentality rushes back in. Yeah, stained thoughts come back in your mind. An example would be gela.

Virtue. Virtue. Good karma comes back, because it's still karma.

It's dirty karma. We call it dirty good karma. Why is it dirty?

It goes away. It ripens and goes away. He's very interesting.

Tsongkhapa's giving you an example. You came out of the direct perception of emptiness. You got your old messed up mind back.

And now you can do good deeds. Got it? He didn't say sakhmedyawa.

He didn't say unstained good deeds. He said good deeds. ngundu gyur na means they manifest.

And from the sabhans of the nyomongshi, From the sabhans of the four negativities? Yeah, the four negativities. Those sawa nyomongshi, ngundu gyurpa.

Those main negativities, they manifest as well? Yeah, they come back to life. The seeds for the negativities come back to life, and then the negativities come back in your mind.

And then that makes che, your mind, yi, nyomongchen. Messed up. Which mind?

Your negative consciousness. Yeah, your negative consciousness goes back to being negative. That makes sense.

Cool. Okay, you got more for us, Dr. Woon? Maybe, I forget.

Yeah, here we go. It's not scrolling, but I guess it'll catch up. I'll put it in the chat.

It's like when I just have something. I can read until it starts. We got it.

We got it now. Who's going to read the Tibetan, Woon? Should I do it?

Yeah, if you'd like to. Yeah, just to make it fast, and then we'll go to other people for the text. Nice.

Someone made a mistake of giving me a dessert word, I'm sorry. So anyway, it says, I mean, that mind is also coined as something to be associated with. Yeah, what's nekab mean?

What do you think this nekab means? Temporarily? Yeah, during the direct perception of emptiness, the mind is unstained.

Go ahead. Jay Sankapa said there's two ways to end the kundalini, nekab and tartuk. So he's commenting on the nekab.

Yeah, what does that mean in English? Temporarily and ultimately. So how to end it forever, and how to just end it for a little bit.

Yeah, so if you're in a direct perception of emptiness for 20 minutes, you don't get to be stained. Sarkpa rinpoche, some people would say that. So, and then, de dar nyonmongpa chen kyang yinpa de nyonmongpa chen kyang yinpa The thing which possesses the negativity is during your nyongju.

Sanskrit. Balanced. Samapati.

Samapati, meaning two things are balanced. Wanting a hamburger and having eaten one. Okay, again, something like that.

Don't listen to agitation. Sama, you're in an equal state between them. In the middle of the room.

Three of them. Temporarily, okay? nyonmongpa chen kyang yinpa de nyonmongpa chen kyang yinpa During that gyun, minjung.

That flow doesn't end, doesn't stop? Yeah, good. And that's a point at which the seeds are not stained somehow.

Okay, good. Good. While you're in the direct perception of emptiness.

That's good. Good? Yes.

Okay, translations. Okay, if they're doing something, they're going to say... Yeah, parkpay lam la means during the direct perception of emptiness, right?

nyonmongpa chen kyang yinpa de They are in that deep meditation. This gyundu I think would mean during that period, right? During that flow or something?

Yeah, during the length of that flow of the direct perception of emptiness, they don't have these seeds nekapli. Temporarily? Yeah, for the time being.

Okay, cool. Anyway, it's a very interesting... It's an interesting argument because when the mind only starts talking about these new kinds of consciousness in your mind, we want to know how they act.

How do they behave? Could they be pure? Or could you purify them temporarily?

If their nature is negativity and you are seeing emptiness directly, are they still negative during that 20 minutes? What would you say? What would Tsongkhapa say?

He'd say, not really. Yeah, different seeds for that time. Okay, cool.

All right, let's go back to Word's book. Where are you? Here.

Okay. We're at Sakwa Mepa again. Yeah.

Okay. By the way, this is still Dönsang. This paragraph is still Dönsang.

Okay, who's going to read Word? By the way, I'll repeat it. This book Dönsang, which means the secret meaning, is being quoted constantly by Je Tsongkapa.

It means he has a high regard for this book, which is rare for Tsongkapa. And we don't know who wrote the book. And no one's ever translated it.

Okay. Might be. Geshe-la, we're trying to translate it right now.

Okay, good. Good. Good.

That's great. That's wonderful. It's very difficult.

I don't know, but no one will know, because it's all difficult anyway. Okay. Well, first of all, no one's going to read it.

Second of all, there's no one to correct us. Yeah, that's a perfect situation.

[Speaker 2]
If a tree is wrong in the woods.

[Speaker 1]
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I think it's cool. There you go. We're going to publish it for free.

Let's go back to words... I'm sorry, Geshe-la, I pushed a button and stopped your share. Could you share again?

I'm going to try. Stop pushing my buttons. Okay, I'm stopping.

Okay. Word, who's going to read? Or did we read?

Kimchi? No, we didn't. Kimchi, are you available?

Kimchi? I don't know. That's kind of...

Yeah. Okay, when the screen comes up. Yeah, I'm sorry.

There we go.

[Speaker 3]
I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah.

Wow, awesome. Unbelievable.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, that's another words kid, I guess. Word, let's translate, sarpa meppa? Unstained.

Yeah, togma meppa. Unstoppable? This means for time with no beginning.

Yeah, with no beginning. Yeah, I just saw no S. Yeah, time with no beginning.

Yeah. Angirik le. Okay.

Your own, this could be your own nature, this rik. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It is not rongrik, why?

It's not apperception. Well, there's a gi. There's an S, okay.

Oh, that rik. Yeah, it doesn't mean rongrik in the sense of the mind's ability to perceive the mind itself, which is an important mind-owned word. But this is not that word because it's spelled different.

Okay, so rongrik le. Dagmeppa. Yeah, your own nature as having a lack of a self.

Yeah, lacking any self nature. Harkpe lam. Yeah, seeing that during direct perception of emptiness.

Good. Kunshi nampa shepa. Foundation consciousness.

Yeah, and I would like to read this dung as a young, I don't want to change it, but I think the sense of it is young, which would mean what? It also arises along with the new need? Yeah, no, just meaning you don't stop having a foundation consciousness just because you're in the perception of emptiness.

Something like that. Okay, and he's quoting what? Gunsam.

Yeah, he's quoting this unbelievable superbook, okay? And what's that say about the seeds in the kunshi at that moment? Yeah, they must be inactive, the bad ones especially, and they have to be somehow temporarily pure, okay?

Mollified. So Kappa's using that ancient Indian book, which some tradition says was written by Vasubandhu, we don't know. Some people say no, some people say don't say that, I don't know, okay?

But it seems pretty good. All right, there's the quotation in two pieces. Let's keep onward.

Sure. Who's going to read, by the way? By the way, I love listening to your super students read.

It makes grandpa feel like my life has had some meaning. I have a new generation. Yay, thank you, Ken.

Let's have, I don't know, who's here? Maria, do you want to read? Are you here?

No? I guess she's not here. Okay, well, then we'll have Anatole read.

Do you want to read, Anatole? Ooh. By the way, everyone should thank Anatole.

He's been working night and day to edit the stuff. Yay. He's working tirelessly.

In addition to learning all the songs I asked him to learn.

[Speaker 2]
It's going pretty well.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, pretty well, me. It's got to be perfect. Hi, Kitty.

Hi, Kitty. Hey, Kitty, if your dad makes a mistake, you can kick him, okay? All right.

[Speaker 2]
Daytar.

[Speaker 1]
I think I just made a bad comment.

[Speaker 2]
Suspended right there. Daytar na ndi lukki kyang nyam shak na nyonmong pa shi ngon gyurut du me pa denri ma chendu nyok pe nyon yid me kyang yid dey shi dang drel wey shak met du ngyur pa ndut pe na tak ngyur pa ndut do.

[Speaker 1]
Nice, okay. Now, this is tricky. Therefore word, ndi lukki kyang.

Therefore, in this system's view as well. Good, nice. In this system too, he's going to say something about in this system as well.

What system? Yeah, mine. Well, again, wait a minute.

Yeah, it could be the first of the two opinions here. Exactly, yeah, yeah. Okay.

I think so. In this system as well, during nyam shak. During meditation, during the meditation of an ariya?

Yeah, I like to call it balanced meditation or something like that. There is no ngon gyur of the nyonmong shi. There's no manifestation at all of those four negativities.

By the way, it didn't say nyonmong pa shi me. It said nyonmong pa shi ngon gyur du me. What's the difference?

Yeah, the difference is, it's not that they have disappeared altogether. It's just that they're not manifestly perceivable. Yeah, they're not showing themselves.

Okay, mepe. Therefore, this nyonpar is a very interesting word that we haven't had almost ever. What's it mean?

It means like gross or stained or icky or something? Yeah, muddied or, yeah, nyonpar is like muddy water or something like that. Okay, too much hand or stinky.

Yeah, yeah, that grossness of a gross nyoni doesn't exist either. Yeah, at that moment when, when the person is in such an emptiness, the nyoni met, there's no consciousness. Yeah, so what he's saying is, what he's saying, you got to be sensitive to what he's saying.

There's no, there's no filthy version of the messed up mind, which is to say there might be a un-filtified version of the messed up mind. Okay, that's what he's saying. Okay, there's no messed up, messed up mind, but there is a- Un-messed up, messed up mind.

Yeah, good. And un-messed up. Sakme, which doesn't have the classic four negativities.

Okay, here, but dupay, dupay. That's, that's what that Luke thinks. Yeah, nice.

It goes all the way back to the very first line. That system says this. Everything between that system and says is their opinion.

Okay, we just had to finish their opinion. Therefore, dak yin yupa duno. Therefore, they believe that there is a- A condition which is contained by the person.

Yeah, it's called a, it's a weird kind of cause. There's different weird causes in the weird book of the weird translator, Stanley. It's called dak yin, and it kind of means a, it kind of means a, it kind of means an entity within your being which affects what you have or you don't have.

Okay, so he's saying there is, there is something there, but it's not messed up anymore. Okay, the seeds or the negativities are still there, but somehow they're temporarily clean while you're seeing emptiness directly. What were we expect, what might we expect to happen when you come out?

They somehow reverse.

[Speaker 2]
It's not messed up, messed up. He goes back.

[Speaker 1]
Maybe he's, but he finishes with that opinion, and now he wants to express another opinion of a different group of people. Okay, and here's this other opinion. Who's going to read, Warren?

Yeah, I don't know. Is there anyone there that wants to read again? Is it, is it- Oh, they're dying.

They were begging me. They said, they offered to pay you if you let them read. Okay, I'll send you PayPal, and then whoever pays first.

I don't know. Somebody come up. I don't know.

I can't see.

[Speaker 2]
Can you see them?

[Speaker 1]
I see- They're all gunking down now. Gibson's there. Gibson, you read.

Come on, Gibson. Come sit down. Your house is full, Gen.

Yeah, well, it's not a very big house. I'm not complaining. I hate clean.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Yes, please.

[Speaker 2]
Lug Nipa. Hey, nyeng shang na yi ni yu la, he yang sak kye shu yu pa tu den.

[Speaker 1]
Lug Nipa? Let's let him translate, Warren. Let's see how he goes.

Lug Nipa.

[Speaker 2]
Four.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, the second subsystem here says, during nyeng shang- During the Balanced Meditation. You still have yi.

[Speaker 2]
You still have messed up state of mind.

[Speaker 1]
Now, we don't know if that, yeah, we don't know if it means nyun yi, just yi, but probably since it's our subject, it's probably nyun yi, messed up state of mind. It is there. And they say that not only do you have messed up state of mind, but it's also sak che.

Sak che.

[Speaker 2]
It's also stain.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, it's a dirty, messed up state of mind, okay? It's not a clean, messed up state of mind, which is what the first school said, sub-school. Okay, let's let him keep going, okay, Warren?

[Speaker 2]
Sure. o na nyong bukpay sakpa yu tang shen na me tok.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, so you said this second version of the messed up state of mind has stains. Sak che. And then somebody comes with a, what do you call it?

Question? Hypothetical question or something. And they say, oh, does it have stains?

Yes. Are those stains the kleshas? Which is what stain usually means.

Oh, at that point, the guy's seeing emptiness directly, right? Yeah. Do they have a messed up state of mind?

Yes. Do they have messes? And he says, man, no.

So who knows what the hell he's saying? Is it messed up? Yes.

Does it have messes? Yes. Are the messes mental afflictions?

Nope. What are they? Go on.

Let's let this handsome remarked man do another one. Yeah, if it didn't have mental afflictions at that moment, then how could you say it was messed up? Or that it had stains in it?

If you ask. So we're asking him, is it messed up? Yes.

Does it have afflictions? No. Well, then what makes it messed up, please?

And here's the answer. Thank you, Gibson. You got all these victims here.

You could have Gibson choose another person, and then he'd be really popular. Gibson, choose a victim for me, so I seem nicer. Tim.

[Speaker 2]
Tim.

[Speaker 1]
Tim? He's one of my favorite victims. Come on, Tim.

Yeah. Everybody's favorite victim. That's his name, Vic Tim.

You know why he chose me, Word? Because when you're irritated, you don't yell at people. Word?

You might disagree about that. You got the cursor.

[Speaker 2]
It's because I forgot my type. You wanted everyone to know. OK.

[Speaker 1]
Go ahead.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, this is a tough sentence. I'll say the pieces, first of all, OK? It says, this dunyi, mental state number seven.

Yeah. Negative consciousness. Yeah.

That's the Mind Only School's nickname for negative consciousness, is state number seven. So if you're getting really pissed off, you can say, I'm feeling like I'm in state number seven. And only people who know.

OK. So state number seven involves two different things. You got to go to skip to the end of the sentence.

State number seven involves two different things. And they are both potentials. They are both potentials.

NUS PA GCIG. NUS PA GCIG. OK.

So there's two potentials. And you go backwards from NUS PA GCIG. Number one, it has this potential.

Number two, it has this potential. And then he describes each of the two potentials. The first potential, Tim, it has a NYON MONGS SKYES PA'I potential.

[Speaker 2]
It has the potential for a negative emotion to arise.

[Speaker 1]
This SKYES PA is BYED PA PO NGOS SU YOD PA. A direct agent is present. So you can't translate it as arise.

It arose? No. It's already there?

[Speaker 2]
Instigated.

[Speaker 1]
Triggered.

[Speaker 2]
Instigated.

[Speaker 1]
Triggered. You see, when it's spelled with a D, you can't say it arose. You have to say it triggered something.

It pushed something. OK. So it has the power, which is implied by power also.

It has the power to trigger NYON MONGS. Negative emotion. In it, when you LTA BA to the KUN ZHI, When you look at the KUN ZHI?

And you say, That's me. That's me. OK.

So it does have the capacity. This seventh state of mind does have the capacity to trigger at least one negative state of mind, which is the one that says, KUN ZHI is me. I am the foundation.

I am the storehouse consciousness. And then there must be a second negativity that it can trigger. Here's the second one.

THAR NI NA TSOG DOR PA'I YI ZHES It has the mental state which places a variety of labels upon things. Yeah, which labels things. It is a mental state which arises simultaneously with a certain foundation, which then holds two objects.

In other words, it has the capacity to trigger a SHIDDHIP. Obstacles to omniscience? Obstacles to omniscience as opposed to...

Mental afflictions. Obstacles caused by mental afflictions. So he says it has both potentials.

It could short-term negative feelings, or serious wrong views that would actually block you from reaching Buddhahood. He says it has both capacities. All right.

What's the BSTAN he's talking about though? LHUN CIG KYE BA'I BSTAN BYAS NAS BYAS SU BRDZIN PA I would say it acts as this tendency to hold to objects, acts as the basis for the arising of a mental state which puts names on things. Yeah, I just got it.

I just got it. I agree. Thank you.

Now he's going to describe the first of these two in a little more detail, and Tim's begging to read it. That's nice. Go for it, Timmy.

I'm going to cut it here so he doesn't have a hard time. That feels much easier.

[Speaker 2]
DE LA DANG PO NI YID NUNG MONG CHEN DU SBYOG CHE YIN CHENG DE YANG JI ZHIG NUNG MONG PA LUS PAR MA PHANG PA DE SRID DU BCUG LA MA RIG PA DANG LTA BA RLOG PAR NA RDOG PA'I PHYIR BSKYED PA YANG DANG Good.

[Speaker 1]
DE LA DANG PO NI means the first of the two capacities that he was mentioning. The first one was the capacity for negativities to arise when this seventh state of mind looks at the foundation consciousness and says, that's me. So certain negativities that arise from that.

Let's talk about those. We're not talking about the deeper one. The first one, NI NUNG MONG CHEN DU SBYOG CHE This is what makes a state of mind clay-shick.

If it has the capacity to... If a state of mind has the capacity of looking at the foundation consciousness and saying, that's me, then it has the capacity to trigger negative emotions. NI NUNG MONG CHEN DU SBYOG CHE YIN PHYING That capacity is enough to say that that state of mind is clay-shick.

If it could look at... If a state of mind is capable of looking at storehouse consciousness and saying, it's me, it qualifies as a clay-shirker. Making you clay, giving you clay-shicks.

That's what it is. SBYOG CHE That's what it is to be messed up. What?

To look at the storehouse consciousness and say, that's me. That's what it is to be messed up. That's how you get messed up.

How's that? SBYOG CHE means that's the single qualifying attribute that makes a state of mind messed up. If it can look at the seeds collectively and say, that's me, that's a me, that's Michael, then that qualifies as a messed up.

[Speaker 2]
Because you're looking at a soft system?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, exactly. PHYING PHYING DE YANG GCIG NYON PO MA LUS PA MA SPANG PA DE SRID DU Now, when you add GC, and then you say blah blah blah blah, and then you say DE SRID, after that, what's it mean, Warren? It's saying, how long?

Until this long? Yeah, for such length of time as... In English we just say, for so long as you.

But in these Asian languages, oftentimes you have to say, for such long as that long you have. So, until such time as you SPANG PA, all your NYON MONGS. As you destroy or eliminate all your negative emotions.

Yeah, and don't forget that this construction in many Asian languages, and in Russian for example, it has to be double negative. Until such time as you have not destroyed your negative emotions. Which in English means, until you have destroyed your negative emotions.

Meaning, for as long as you haven't. Until the day you destroy your negative emotions. Which you could say in English as, for all the days that you haven't destroyed your negative emotions.

Okay, all right. For that MONG, DE GZUGS. DE SRID DU GZUGS.

It engages. Engages in its objects, okay. But, if you can LHOG PA, MA RIG PA and LTA BA.

If you can stop misunderstanding and some wrong view, some kind of wrong views. Wrong view. It will NG DO.

It will reverse. Yeah, it will stop. When you can stop your misunderstanding, and you can stop your wrong way of looking at things, then this tendency to be kleshic or messed up will also be stopped.

DOG PA'I PHYIR DOG PA'I PHYIR Therefore, and I added a SA. Just understood, it's not a correction. It's just Tsongkapa being cute.

From the eighth. And all his readers know that that refers to nirvana in the eight levels. In which you have destroyed the capacity for ignorance.

Okay, from that level on up. It's only half a sentence so far. You got to ask Mr. Tim to complete the shantung. Please, Timmy. And an important comma that should have been there.

[Speaker 2]
NUPA LOGS DE LOGS PAS NUN YI LOGS SO Nice.

[Speaker 1]
DRAG CHEN PO'I TIM And arhats.

[Speaker 2]
They have DBANG PA, both the TSA WE NYON MONG and the NYE WE NYON MONG They've given up both the negative emotions and the roots of them.

[Speaker 1]
No, the secondary and root.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, I see.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, primary and secondary. The PA is important. We're not going to talk about it today.

NUPA DBANG NAS Therefore, because they have they have LOGS PA, the NUPA to create ZIN PA YING DU GANG ZAG They've stopped the ability to trigger the holding up to things. To people. For people.

Yeah, good. LOGS PAS And when you lock by that when you stop that you can no longer JOG it that state of mind as NYON MONG CHEN JOG means established. JOG CHEN You can no longer establish that mind as having kleshas, having mental...

Yeah, being kleshik. And since you can no longer... If you can say that the tendency of that mind to hold to the self-existence of a person has been reversed then because that's reversed there's nothing you can say that makes that person kleshik and then you would have to say we have reversed the...

[Speaker 2]
Negative. Negative.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, then finally seventh state is zeroed out. Okay? So, apparently it is possible to do a, you know, what do you call it?

Seventhectomy. There's all these questions in Buddhism. Could you remove the seventh state of mind and the patient would still be alive?

They say yes. It implies yes. It is possible to extract seventh consciousness from a human being and they would now be a special human being.

It's not that like they would die or something like that. Cool. Okay.

Geshe-la, why does it say lok so and not lok ho? That's a great question. It's a mistake.

I'm sure it should be lok ho. Yeah. I mean, there's a tiny chance it's quoting an opinion he doesn't agree with, but I don't think so.

So, lok ho. It should be lok ho. Yeah, lok ho for a future reference.

By the way, we have two versions of this text input. So if it were me, and if I were preparing for a class, I would cut out the phrase just before it, yang meypay nyu nyi. You see?

Then I would go to my gopher. By the way, Ben Kramer and his Indian counterpart programmer is working extremely hard. Yeah.

Hang on just one second. Oh, shit. What's the thing?

Okay, so you can see my gopher program now. I put a piece of this quotation here because we want to see what was the last syllable of the sentence in another edition of our text, and then we can confirm that it's a mistake. Okay, so I will...

The search setting is set, right? Oh, sorry. yang mey...

I'm sorry, I've got to copy that.

[Speaker 2]
You're not using the new version.

[Speaker 1]
If I've got a version that works, I use it.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, that's my rule. Okay, no, I'm sorry. Okay, and we're going to search the Sumbra.

Okay, and here we go. Yay. Local.

There it is, local. Yeah, that means Geshe Michael was not local. Okay, yeah, it should have been local.

And that's how beautiful and fast it is to check something with gopher. You can check. It just searched.

It just searched a million pages and found the one, two-syllable thing we wanted. And if you don't learn how to use it, you're a loser. Okay.

By the way, I chopped out the instructions for effective searches from the Bible, and I put them in AL4. But you don't have that version yet. Okay.

All right, we got time for one more line. Where do you want to do it for good luck? Sure.

I need some good luck. I don't see your screen anymore, Gen. I don't know why.

That's your internet. Stop blaming the Rimrock Advanced Internet. It just came back.

Okay. Okay, good. So I'm going to look forward to your translation of this paragraph.

It's hard. Don't get too excited. Don't get too excited.

Okay, wait. So let me go back and just... Let me see.

Yeah, can you do these two paragraphs? Okay, so it's unkyang and dini ni ring. I can.

I will. Yeah, by the way, I repaired one of these words. It was brahma, and I fixed it to everything.

Oh, that's... Just so you don't lose any hair over it. Too late, Gen.

I'm talking for both of us. Okay. All right.

Nice class. And thank you again for teaching so many people to read. And again, I don't know how you do it, but God bless you.

All right. And give a hug to your four beautiful ladies. Okay.

Thank you. Thank you so much. Okay.

Okay, and we send you some pizza in our hearts. What? I want some in my stomach, in my heart.

Okay, we'll see you next week up here. Okay. Thank you.

Thanks, Geshe Michael. Thank you, guys. Nick, any final wise words?

No, no, just let everybody go. But thank you very much for teaching, Geshe Michael. We're so happy to have you.

Yeah, I'm happy to have me too. Thank you, everybody. And we'll see you soon in a couple more days.

I'm going to teach my class. Awesome. That's right.

Yeah, stick around. Okay, you guys want to leave it on? No, you got to go.

Okay. Bye.