Вордсмит — Книга 2: Трудные места школы «Ум только», занятие 60

[Speaker 1]
Doug, be more accurate to what's going on today. Zoom has so many messages for me upon logging in.

[Speaker 2]
I haven't got it. Okay. Nick, did you get my message there?

Probably not. Let me check. I'm just kidding.

I didn't send you one. Talk about your business, everybody. We got one more minute.

That's better. So a quick preview of the plan for today. Then we'll be to make to-do words class.

And then if you all would like, we'll stick around, meaning the mix nuts, and you can ask us questions and we can talk about our books. And we'll talk more about that. Ben's going to tell you more because it's 11 and he's on.

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I don't have a whole lot else to say than except good evening, good afternoon, good morning, wherever you are in the world.

[Speaker 1]
Wonderful to have you as always. We're excited to have Dr. Wordsmith prepared to lead class to begin. And then we'll have discussion at the end, of course, and delighted to have a special presentation from the Petrie World News, as per usual.

I hear they have two very exciting guests tonight that I'm particularly excited about. And then, yeah, we're going to stick around and do an hour of Q&A because that's fun. It's a joy to get to hang out and all interact together.

I feel like we all get a lot out of that. And so I'm glad that we have a spontaneous opportunity to make the best of our time together.

[Speaker 3]
Word, are you standing by and ready?

[Speaker 2]
And if you have like particular questions for particular mixed nuts, this is your chance to put them on the spot in front of everybody. Put us on the spot, not me, but anybody else in front of everyone. So feel free to have at us.

[Speaker 3]
Yes, I'm very well trained to respond with answers like, oh, that's a good question, but I'd like to hear what your thoughts are first.

[Speaker 2]
Good. Oh, thank you.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, Paula says I'm good at that. Right.

[Speaker 1]
So for example, I can always just ask Paula what you would think, or you identify the mixed nut that seems to specialize in that particular subject of the topic that you want to ask, and then that mixed nut can pick who they think is actually the expert on that subject and offload it to them.

[Speaker 2]
I saw Dr. Word here a moment ago. He could be having some technical difficulties.

[Speaker 1]
I'm here. I was waiting.

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[Speaker 1]
Hi. Okay. Hi, everybody.

Yeshula isn't here. He's partying, hopefully. Yesterday was his birthday.

I hope he's having a great time. So we are going to do a class on the Mind Only School, and I've had the distinct pleasure of reading and translating some other Mind Only School books, and I'm understanding more about my book as a result. Hopefully some of the understanding is reflected right now as we do this quiz.

Here we go. No. Yeah.

Here we go. All right. Anyone can answer.

Question one. We're now translating a quote from the 30. Why is this quote important, and who wrote the text, and who wrote the commentary we're using to explain it?

Just some background. Upalas has an answer in the chat. Oh, great.

Master Vasubandhu wrote it. That is correct. Why is this book important?

Let's go in deeper. Apparently there are a lot of discrepancies between what we have, and I can't remember exactly what that means, and what's in the commentary, and we're trying to get an understanding of the nyunyi, the messed up part of our mind, when it looks at the foundation consciousness, the quinchian misunderstands it as an outer object. That is all true.

That's not what I put, but that's probably better than what I put. Who wrote the commentary?

[Speaker 3]
Well, you're translating Je Tsongkhapa, yes?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, but we're now in a commentary of the 30 by someone else, explaining the verse, because the 30 is very, what's the best word? Trivial, I think, is the technical word. You can't tell what he's talking about.

It's like written in code. I had an opportunity to translate the book at the beginning of the year, and I could read it, but I can't understand it.

[Speaker 3]
Is this the one where we don't know who wrote it?

[Speaker 1]
No, that's Dunsang. This is by Master Siramati, and it's just called the shepa, the explanation of the 30. I'll give you the full answer now.

Yeah, this quote is important because the 30 is amongst some of the important root texts of the mind-only school. That's all I put. Je Tsongkhapa uses the 30 pretty frequently.

The root text was written by Master Vasubandhu, and the commentary we are using was written by Master Siramati. That's it. Hm?

Nice. Yeah, good times. What does the secret meaning, this is the book referred to, say, are the only nine that are always in attendance with negative consciousness?

I gave a hint in this next question. There's five and there's four. There's the four classic negative emotions and the five omnipresent mental functions.

Correct. Those are right. What are they, though?

What are each one of the nine? We've done the five.

[Speaker 2]
Many, many, many times.

[Speaker 1]
Nampa aspect. No, those are the sungdenga. This is the kundronga.

I'll give you a hint. One of them is sempa. Okay, sempa.

[Speaker 2]
There's one.

[Speaker 3]
Contact.

[Speaker 1]
Which one are we doing? We're doing the five omnipresent first? Sure.

I mean, yeah. So there's contact? That's one.

Two of you include sempa. Yeah.

[Speaker 3]
Movement of the mind?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, that's sempa.

[Speaker 3]
Okay. Directing the mind.

[Speaker 1]
Correct.

[Speaker 3]
And feeling and discrimination.

[Speaker 1]
Those are both correct. What are the four? I don't know how classic this list is.

It is pretty classic because usually there's six in the main mental afflictions, negative emotions. I'm just telling y'all.

[Speaker 3]
Ignorant desire and ignorant disliking.

[Speaker 1]
There's got to be two of them, yeah? You would think. But they're not.

But no. Ignorant desire is though, right? Yeah, yep.

Ignorant desire, misunderstanding in general, pride, and wrong views of some self-nature.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Don't ask me why. I don't know.

[Speaker 3]
The word.

[Speaker 1]
Can I clarify just super obvious things that obviously I would know if I paid perfect attention all the time, which I'm sure I do, but just for other people's sake. What we're saying is this part of the mind, the negative consciousness, whenever it's present, these are always present, all of these? Yeah, these are the mental functions that are always interacting with the negative consciousness.

Okay. Yeah. When Jason Kappa gave the definition of kunshi, foundation consciousness, in the earlier part of the text, he went through the same exact procedure.

He talked about the essence of the kunshi, and then he spoke about what mental functions basically work with it. And he's doing this for negative consciousness, the nuni as well. So in addition to the nuni, the negative consciousness's job of looking at the kunshi namparsepa and thinking it's the real me, it's also supporting all these other functions, or these other functions are supporting it?

I don't think either. I think these are always interacting with the negative consciousness when it is engaged. So just like the kundronga are always there when the mental consciousness is active, these nine are always active with the negative consciousness, meaning you always have contact with the negative consciousness.

Because the kunshi is not like that at all, the foundation consciousness. You can't engage it in the same way. So Jason Kappa is defining what it is, how it acts, what it can act with, and so forth, before he gets in discussion about the difficult points regarding its existence.

Okay. All right. I'll keep learning.

Thank you. Yeah. That's mind-only.

All right. Three. Three.

Why does Jason Kappa frame his discussion of the negative consciousness around one mind, I should put at, and at one given time? So when he mentions it, he says the negative consciousness in any given mind at any particular time, he makes sure to say that. How come?

Silence. This is a good time to meditate.

[Speaker 2]
Maybe it would give us a hint to give us one of the points that Jason Kappa was making about this.

[Speaker 1]
We haven't gotten to any points yet. He just starts with this. Because it can be active in a single mind at the same time and not be a non-virtue.

[Speaker 2]
Oh.

[Speaker 1]
Maybe it's even as simple as that. But just to make the point that he's talking about a negative consciousness and the kun-chi of the same person. Yeah.

That's what he said. That's what this says.

[Speaker 2]
So that we can't debate him and say, oh, yeah, sure, there can be a nye-nye of a different person.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, yeah. I think that's why. But the truth of the matter is, I haven't gotten there yet.

I thought it was worth talking about. Here we go. Tibetan.

I just did the nine. Maybe we can give some non-mix nuts a chance. Somebody who doesn't know should answer.

Shut up. I think maybe a few of my students might know. Okay.

We'll see. Anyone that's not a mix nuts. What's soruwa?

[Speaker 3]
Healing.

[Speaker 1]
Yay. Correct. What's duche?

It's a concept. Yeah, a concept or. It's discrimination, but it can be a concept too.

You're not wrong. What's sempa?

[Speaker 3]
It's the mind.

[Speaker 1]
It's the movement of the mind, but you're close. Movement of the mind. What's rekpa?

[Speaker 3]
Rekpa.

[Speaker 1]
You see it's rekja too. It's one of the links in the wheel of life. It's the sixth link.

[Speaker 3]
It's the contact with the object.

[Speaker 1]
It's contact with something. There's a debate about it. What's ije?

[Speaker 3]
Ije is the act of the mind.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Hina is answering. She wants to be translating too.

Yeah. It's specifically directing the mind.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
It literally says mind act, but it means the ability to direct the mind. What's duche?

[Speaker 3]
It's an ignorant desire.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Ignant. What's marikpa?

[Speaker 3]
It's ignorance itself.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Or misunderstanding. Either one, depending on the context.

What's nagea? Aikin. Pride.

Correct. What's takta?

[Speaker 3]
We see it as a self.

[Speaker 1]
Basically. It's that kind of ignorance, a wrong view where we have a tendency to think there's a self when there ain't. Yay.

Good job, Tin and Hina and other people who responded in the chat. All right. You're welcome.

Okay. I did my translation, but I submit that we should just go to the book because we're just doing the book translation anyway. I don't know.

Makes sense. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, it's fine.

I didn't type it in the book. It doesn't matter. We're going to explain the book.

Let's just do it as if I didn't do it. I can bother Geshe-la with this later. All right.

Here we go. The book. Now, this book, if you don't know, is by Jason Kappa, and it is about the mind-only school, the difficult points about it.

The more I read, it's right. A lot of the mind-only books talk about mental functions and other things that are pretty straightforward. This does not do that.

This is a commentary by Master Sthiramati commenting on Master Vasubandhu, who's commenting on the Buddha. It's commenting on the book called The Thirty, which is a very succinct book on the mind-only school of 30 verses. Because it's so succinct, it's difficult to understand, and we needed an explanation.

Here we go. Who would like to read this? Tibetan.

If someone doesn't volunteer, I will torture them. Tracy looks very happy to read.

[Speaker 3]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
This is chen. Say chen. Chen.

This is mu. Mu. Mu.

Te. Te. Har.

Ngar. Sempe. Dapne.

Yempa. Ngepe. Sik.

Gyi. Gyi.

[Speaker 3]
Chay.

[Speaker 1]
Jow. Correct. Good.

All right. We have the Sanskrit. So read the Sanskrit for funsies.

Yaaay! Yay! Okay, good job.

Okay, so let's go through it. What's yang? Everyone help.

Also. Yeah, yang means also. So this is the middle of something.

So we got... did I miss one? No, we already finished here.

Here's the thing that we're commenting on. Okay, this is the original verse, all right? And we're in the middle of it, and so he's going further, or going deeper.

Also, te rang shin.

[Speaker 3]
Nature of that?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, that nature which we're discussing, right? Kong. Which?

Yeah, which or what? Yeah, this is a question. And we see this one in the Diamond Cutter a lot.

Nyampa, what's nyam?

[Speaker 3]
Equal.

[Speaker 1]
Now. I think. Yes.

With an M, it means equal. With an S, it means, what do you think? So it's a question, like, what do you think about this self-nature, or this nature that we're discussing?

And it is ngar, ngar sem. My mind? Yeah, no, it's the mere mind.

It's the mind that me's, right? The mind that makes the I. So this is the very classical function of the negative consciousness.

So in the mind-only school, there's not six consciousnesses, like in the Heart Sutra, eye, ear, nose, tongue, feeling, and mind. There's two extra ones. There's foundation consciousness, which is conscious of everything.

And there's negative consciousness, which makes us have problems or mental problems. And the main thing it does is it looks at the foundation consciousness and it thinks, hey, that's me. Hey, that's a me.

Hey. All right? So it me's, right?

And so because of that me, you dak ni chen.

[Speaker 3]
You have the self.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, because it me's, because it has an I, you think, I have a self, okay? And what does this mean in this context, she jawa? It's a quote.

Yeah, a quote from where? A quote from the root text. What's that?

30 verse. Yeah. Okay, Tin's paying attention.

That's what it says, all right? Yeah. Te, now we're going to get into it.

Tetar. In that way? Yeah, in that way, the ngar, Sam, what's that, Tracy?

Also? No. No, the mind that says ngar.

Oh, the consciousness? Yeah, the mind that says me, it says I. It says me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It yin, dak ni. It doesn't exist?

It is, it does have a self. It believes in a self. In a self.

Okay, and this has a nge pe tsik. Now, nge pe tsik means, it literally means the certainty word or something, but it actually means like etymology. So this is all originally Sanskrit, right?

And here's the original Sanskrit as far as we have it. And there's a Sanskrit pun happening here that does not function in the Tibetan because it's a different language, right? So we're going to use the tsul of ne tsik.

What's that?

[Speaker 2]
The manner.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, the method of ne tsik-ing to find the connection between the word yi. Mind. Yeah, and this nge tsem.

[Speaker 2]
And man. I see it, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Exactly, so Geshe-la gave us a little clue here. Man is connected to mana. So man is a Sanskrit word that means mind.

It comes into English as the word mind. I think it's the man and human. The word measure comes from that and a whole bunch of other words.

So here is the Sanskrit. Okay, so here it is. The ma-na-na-ma-kam.

All right? This is the nge tsem dak-ni-chen. Here and here, this is atma, right?

That means self. This is the dak, right? And this ma-na means something mind, something mental, okay?

But there's a trick. Why is this word yi, which is very common in Buddhism because they're always talking about minds and mind, why is it important in our context? And what is its importance?

[Speaker 2]
It's referring to a very specific yi.

[Speaker 1]
Exactly, Nick, yeah. Exactly. What is that specific yi and why should we care?

[Speaker 2]
We spent so much time in this part of the book where we're talking about the nge.

[Speaker 1]
Exactly. So we're in the part of the book that talks about nge, which, by the way, people rarely talk about. Kunshi gets a lot of radio play, all right?

Nge, people don't seem to know as much about. But if we go all the way back, hold on, if we go all the way back to the first line in the book, okay? The title of the book is Yi Dang Kunshi Ka Weine, the difficult points, the difficult places concerning yi and kunshi.

So if you didn't have Geshe Michael, you might translate this as mind, but it doesn't mean mind. It is a shortening. It is an abbreviation for nge.

And it's from the Sanskrit. In the Sanskrit, they just call nge manas all the time. Jason Kappa didn't come up with this.

The mind-only scholars, I don't know if it started with Lord Buddha or someone else, called the nge just mind, which is very confusing, by the way. Thankfully, we have a Geshe Michael Roach. All right?

Do we ever elaborate at word? I mean, I guess something like, you know, klesha mana or mana klesha. Have you seen that in the Sanskrit sometimes?

I mean, that must be a nge. Yes, it is. Klesha manas is in the Sanskrit.

Klesha manas. Yeah, it's klesha manas, something like that. I think it might be in this section, actually.

Yeah, but for some reason, maybe because it's too long. I don't know. For some reason, they only do that.

There it is. Yeah. There it is.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there it is. Cool.

Klesha manas. All right? Yeah.

So it's saying, what's the connection between the nge, shortened yi, and its function of making eyes? Yes. So etymologically speaking, the root of the word is here.

The mana in mana means mind. Tin, what does iti mean? Iti.

[Speaker 3]
Set?

[Speaker 1]
Yay. Thank you. Yeah.

Yeah, shejawa. We call it the mind that makes eyes. And it comes from what we call the mind, which is the nyuni.

All right. This is worth, this is, I'm sorry, this is ngar semdak nyichen, is mana makam? Yeah.

Which is interesting, right? In the Tibetan, it seems to have more of a feel of having than making, right? But it sure seems like making in the Sanskrit.

Yeah, I was thinking that as a maker. But this, the r here makes it more of a maker. It's the, yeah, the mind that makes eyes that believes it has a self.

Yeah, cool. Great. Yeah.

I was thinking that a little bit too. Because kam is, yeah, kam means like a process, right? Yeah, I think often.

[Speaker 2]
I think so. I'm no Sanskritist.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, I'm not 100%, but I have that feeling for some reason. All right, next section. Who would like, thank you, Tracy.

Who would like to read? Haso?

[Speaker 2]
Yes, I can read.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, please read.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, very good, Haso. You can tell that this is translated from the Sanskrit and not originally Tibetan because of how they write it. So it's a little more difficult, but doable.

What's namparshepa, Haso? Namparshepa is like one of those that I almost know. I know, but I can't access.

Kunshi namparshepa.

[Speaker 2]
The foundation. What, mind? Just mind.

I was sure he was going to say it.

[Speaker 1]
Yes. Yeah. Whoever just said that, thank you.

I don't know. I couldn't, I don't see who. Yeah.

Consciousness. That consciousness has a ngoa, ngoa of its own. What's a ngoa?

Nature, the essence. Yeah. Yeah.

It has that. And by that, it's performing some kind of function in the sentence. Te, by that.

It's namparsem. Is there a certain mind? Yeah.

There's some kind of certainty that it jungs. Jung was.

[Speaker 3]
That is come.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Come arises. Yeah.

It creates some kind of certainty. I don't know what it is yet. And that certainty is dangjungpa.

Dangjungpar. Is equally. Yeah.

Yeah. This, this. Together with.

Yeah. Thank you. And this one, jungpar den, I should have added the den, sorry.

This means linked with or connected to. Again, this is translated, so it's difficult. Kyurna.

Yeah, if that happens. Yeah. Yeah.

If, if it is the case that is, that this conscious, the essence of this consciousness is linked to the arisal of this certain mind, this mind, which is certain. Then that, that sem, that jungs. The mind exists or comes about based on the thoughts that come about.

Yeah. Yeah. The mind that comes from that.

Knee. What's this knee? Identifies the subject.

Hold on.

[Speaker 3]
Now we got an idea.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Jessica got it. I think the most clear.

Everyone was right, though. Now we're going to go explain what we're talking about, about this mind. Kangtak.

[Speaker 2]
The person.

[Speaker 1]
Those who. Any.

[Speaker 2]
Whatever.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. In any case, any. In any case, and gene.

However many. Yeah, in any, in whatever amount. To.

Yeah, yeah, I think this means whenever and forever long. Yeah, because it.

[Speaker 2]
I think it's for however long to do needs together.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, this is for this. But this is Kangtak is like.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just more general.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it. It doesn't need some specific time when it engages like it can engage.

It's in this at any time. Right. Yeah, that's how I see it too.

Yeah. So. GT.

Or that amount of time. Yeah. How, however, it, it is some part then part.

[Speaker 2]
Nice. It is connected.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, it's linked. It is linked. Continuously.

Right. LinkedIn, LinkedIn. To me.

Misperception or misunderstanding. Yeah, some kind of ignorance. So, yeah, so the negative consciousness that that we're discussing that conscious that we're discussing its essence is some kind of ignorance.

Right. And it can happen whenever wherever for however long. So forth.

So if that's there then certainly the others arise. If that number shape of because that number shape of that consciousness as a nature of its own, then it is certainly the case whenever that one arises that those states of mind that are associated associated with it must arise as well. And so, whenever that arises and forever how forever long it arises, we can be sure that me Shay misunderstanding will be there, riding alongside.

Exactly. Yeah. And that me Shay can contact things can direct the mind all those things can occur with the me Shay that that is its core that is it's a homies.

All right. It's a screw. Okay.

Who wants to read the next section. That was good hustle good job.

[Speaker 3]
Anybody. Yeah, I can read. And you can read.

Yeah, yes. All right. Thank you.

Hey cheer trip long to my band. Hey, new monk. She tongue, Dr. She shall. So, yes.

[Speaker 1]
Professor Ben anticipated this. We're just talking about it, read the Sanskrit to. Yeah.

[Speaker 3]
Clear. Chat to be. So he don't need to be.

[Speaker 1]
So, yeah. Good. Perfect.

[Speaker 3]
Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. So this is what we've been discussing the essence of the country. So this is saying well therefore, therefore, the, the, excuse me the new me not the country is is drip.

The obstruction. Yeah, it's up stock, realizing it creates obstacles, and it's long, long my 10 or long do my 10 is neutral. Yeah, neutral.

This word neutral means the Buddha never said nothing about it. But that just means it came to me neutral. All right, it's not that everything the Buddha didn't mention is neutral.

Okay. Okay. And then, therefore, it's always dropped.

[Speaker 2]
So it's good friends with.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, joke. Drop a drop or drop or means friend in Tibetan.

So this by itself means a company. Right. And it's Dr. Oh, it's permanent. Yeah, always always friends with the new long sheet for negative emotion. Yeah, what are those for $0.

[Speaker 2]
Was that what we just covered like pride. Yeah desire, anger and jealousy. I mean desire anger and team.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Understand misunderstanding ignorance pride and, and the wrong views of a self nature of some self nature. Yeah.

Yeah. Shay job. Admittedly, yeah.

And why is it underlined Why are we underlining all of a sudden.

[Speaker 2]
No, I'm guessing, not because it's underlined in the scan. That's the quotation itself.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, because it's already we already put quotes that we pull out of other texts in bold. So guess you can't bold it anymore. So he underlined the bolded text to show what is actually in the 30.

All right, if you're wondering. Okay, I'm looking for more victims who wants to try next to read 10 good job reading, I didn't know you could read. Jessica, you want to try here.

Come on.

[Speaker 3]
Yes.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, go ahead.

[Speaker 3]
Similarly, to what time, me now. Me. New moon path down daily.

Chin.

[Speaker 1]
Perfect. Exactly. Read the Sanskrit.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you.

[Speaker 3]
Hi. Hi. Hi.

He. The.

[Speaker 1]
I will leave it with Sengri. Yeah, no problem. So, that sem, that jungs we were just talking about.

[Speaker 3]
The mind arise, come up.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, exactly. That mind that arises. What's this tak?

It's a dual case marking particle. Yeah, what isn't it, Tin?

[Speaker 3]
Tak, the dongs, dongs, the life.

[Speaker 1]
No, it's not the word pure, okay?

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, it's not dakpa.

[Speaker 1]
Yes, it's the dualizer. I'll tell you, I don't see it in the Sanskrit for whatever reason. I don't think chaita is in the dual case.

So, it's just interesting. We can't do anything about it, but he sure seems to mean that. I was just looking at it and thinking that same thing.

And I'm not sure. Yeah. It's dual.

I mean, he's about to say two. He clearly means two. It's clearly a dual particle.

But I don't think that jives with the Sanskrit that we have available, which is not a super important matter to us right now, but vaguely interesting. If you're a mixed nerd. Some cases are the same.

Sometimes there's no ending that's different. So, we'd have to check. But I don't know.

So, that semle jungwa. Semle jungwa actually means mental function. That mental function, semjung, is nampa ni.

It has two aspects. Yeah, it has two aspects. And I guess these are the two aspects.

Nongmongpa, tangikidation, pao. What's nongmongpa as opposed to nongmong? Well, it's negativities rather than negative emotions.

What about this pa? Things associated with negative emotions. Yeah.

Negativities. Does Geshe-la say that now, negativities? It's been a thing, yeah.

Okay. I've just been putting those things involved in negative emotions. Can't be too precise.

What's that? Can't hurt to be too precise. Yeah, it's cumbersome sometimes, but okay, it's all good.

[Speaker 2]
And the other stuff that comes from those.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, and other things. I guess we're going to talk about other things. Yeah, we are right now.

I don't know what they are. Okay, so the mental function has two parts. And those two parts, one part is everything involved in negative emotions.

Which means not negative emotions themselves, like not things in your mind like feeling bad, but all the stuff around you that is around you when you feel bad, like tables and houses and any given object in your world. All right. Next part.

Thank you, Jessica. Good job. Who wants to read this?

Venerable Codding and Anne, one of you. Bertha also has volunteered. Really?

Yeah. Okay, Codding slash Anne next, okay? Venerable Codding.

Bertha? Okay. Ready?

Yes, I am. Thank you.

[Speaker 3]
Okay, let's go. Venerable Codding. That's right.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you, Bertha.

Perfect. Try the Sanskrit for blessing.

[Speaker 3]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
I guess Anya means shin. What do you think, Kramer? Yeah, for sure.

It's Anya. And Anya is the dual. Oh, cool.

Awesome. I didn't know that. Thank you.

This time we're hooked up. Oh, yeah, here it is. Okay.

Okay. There's, I guess. Other than those is.

Yeah. The two other than those is. The two other otherwise is.

Yeah. Amongst them, I don't know. Yeah, right.

Yeah. They can be, they can be yewad.

[Speaker 2]
Divided.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Really divided. Yeah, because they can guess what says to distinguish from those others. I don't know.

Um, they can be divided. in what we mi.

[Speaker 2]
Admittedly, they can be divided, we say.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, it's like, yeah, we say, yeah, what we call the things involved in mental afflictions. And I guess he's gonna divide them now. Here we go.

Apparently there's druk of them. Who would, oh yeah, now, and or veterbal codding or both.

[Speaker 3]
It's both. Okay. Um, you know, cheer, cheer, cheer.

She, she, uh, dear. Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. Good job. Why don't you read the Sanskrit?

[Speaker 3]
I don't see the marker there.

[Speaker 2]
There's a little dot underneath.

[Speaker 3]
Oh, okay. Yeah, good.

[Speaker 1]
Perfect, thank you. So, nyongmongpa, those involving mental afflictions, are ang. Ang, yang, kyang.

What do those mean? Even, also, but. Yeah.

I think it's also here, but yeah. Also, juk.

[Speaker 3]
Shat.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, shat, six. Shat is rare in Sanskrit because it starts with a retroflex S. Yeah, shat.

Te. Now, we're going to. Karma at Diamond Mountain, coming up next month, starring Earl and Lisa.

Oh, shat karma, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the six things you can do to your body to cleanse stuff.

Te tak.

[Speaker 2]
Them. Them.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, thems, those. All of thems. Yeah, all of thems, all of those, which are jungpa, denpa.

Well, or they aren't in this case. Yeah, they are not. They're.

Associated. Yeah, they're ma. They're not linked.

Okay. Te chir. Yeah, because they're not.

Yeah, because they're not linked with the she, the four. So, yeah, so the four. What did we prove?

I don't know. I'm just the translator, sir. So there's four mental afflictions, negative emotions we've been talking about.

And apparently there's also six, and they're not linked to each other. I don't know. Hopefully we get our answers down here.

Okay. Otherwise, I got nothing for you. Who wants to go next.

[Speaker 3]
I can read. Who's that. In white.

Hi. Hi.

[Speaker 1]
Go ahead.

[Speaker 3]
Roche johnny so hard.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Good read the Sanskrit please.

[Speaker 3]
So he can eat the some cry.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Good. Yeah, this is like Saha right.

Saha ja right Kramer, like together spontaneous together. Okay. Yes.

So, do you remember any of these words, anyway, what's joke. Joke. On your own.

I don't know what your means, tell them. Yeah. Company.

Yeah. We say that we call it accompanied. When it is so far then, but we cannot link.

These are, these are the ones that are linked we call a company. So, I don't know what this is, I don't know if he's saying, you can either call it the list of four or the list of six, because there's usually a list of six mental negative emotions, and this is them. All right, ignorant disliking ignorant liking pride misunderstanding doubt and wrong view.

For some reason, only four of them have been picked from the usual list of six to make this list of four. So it seems like Masters theater Matt is saying, Hey, this list, the things involved in mental afflictions those negativities. It could also be six.

So, I don't know. Hopefully he explains it. Do we have a question or a comment or somebody raised their hand, maybe it was an accident.

Okay. Thank you. Hey, who wants to read next.

We only have four minutes left. Catherine. Yes.

Wait, that book I've been bothering you about.

[Speaker 3]
Oh, sorry. I haven't got the very well internet but yeah, that's fine. Yeah, too.

Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
It doesn't exist in Chinese.

[Speaker 3]
Actually, I have. I have found to make maybe modern versions.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, I'm looking for a classical version.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, no, no classical versions.

[Speaker 1]
No, there's no classical. I read this.

[Speaker 3]
Okay. Good.

[Speaker 1]
Perfect. Read this Sanskrit.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, good.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. Catherine, help me.

[Speaker 3]
The people who have mental afflictions.

[Speaker 1]
Just the stuff. Those are the people who have mental afflictions. Those things involved in mental afflictions.

Young. Young. Also have number one.

[Speaker 3]
Two.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, two aspects. And those are me gala. So, um, mental function, not nonverbal.

And it's drip. Oh.

[Speaker 3]
As long as drip. Drip.

[Speaker 1]
Obstructing, but it's long do Martin.

[Speaker 3]
Neutral. Commie comically neutral.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Correct. Both of you.

Exactly. So there's neutral obstacular. Yeah, neutral but obstaculizing.

So it can just be bad, or it can be kind of bad, but not that bad. Don't ask me. Um, we have one more minute, I will read the last verse.

So, um, them's them's negatives. Right. This bill apparently means door.

According to Mr. Kramer. Those two negatives. There's some J jocks about them.

There's some details about them. They can, because you can divide them. Yeah.

Into what we call drip. Long do my 10. I thought he just said the opposite.

That it wasn't confusing. Yeah. I thought he was saying they're two different categories, but this, it seems like he's saying this is a category of the gala.

I think we're gonna have to see but it seems like he's saying. Oh yeah. Numbers you're saying that.

Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
It seems like he's saying that you can also divide me gay one into subcategories.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. But then one of those categories is drip.

[Speaker 2]
That's weird.

[Speaker 1]
You're going to have to wait a whole month to find out the exciting conclusion. So this quote. That's my time everybody.

Thanks word. Wait, there's still time but not for this. Oh no.

To lead a discussion of how this is also practical. Oh, this is very practical I use this every day. I have here.

Up till now avoided these discussions. Hi. You can also ask random questions to take up to 15 minutes.

I prefer that. What did we learn what about even by way of some summary word to at least help us collect our thoughts.

[Speaker 2]
What we can mind this for.

[Speaker 1]
Well, I like to joke around about the mind only school, but it is actually very useful. And it is a great. I don't do any text.

I don't think so. It's a great stepping stone for my Jamaica to get to, you know, the ultimate pen. Because, you know, I like to think, I think like many of us that.

Oh, I'm always thinking about the ultimate nature of the pen. But I'm not. And sometimes you can't.

So you got to just encompasses if you can at least think mind only, you can still get enlightened in one way. So it's kind of. It's helpful to have a little backup when things times get hard.

So what mind only says is part of our mind is saying that. There's an eye that's not there. And that's not wrong.

You know how it all functions is might be a little. The details are a little different, but it's saying the negative part of our mind is constantly making me out of things that don't have a me or don't have a real self. Right.

And that's awesome. And it's true. And it's saying that that function that which is in our uni, which is in our negative consciousness, makes all our trouble, makes all our problems.

So if we can somehow end it, then our troubles go away. So and just thinking to yourself, well, the thing I think is there isn't the eye that I think is there isn't and not in the way I think it is. And so this upset that I have, you know, ignorant desire, pride that I constantly have is actually coming from that that misunderstanding and without it.

And if you can think that, I mean, at least once in a while. Hopefully in a fight or something, too. I guess you wouldn't be in a fight if you were thinking about it more often.

But that is very practical because that will stop a lot. Maybe it won't be ultimate, but it will stop a lot of problems. That's nice.

I was thinking that there's this there's this idea of looking out for number one, right, taking care of myself before other people. And this is the number one that the uni is focused on, that there's this idea that our mistaken understanding of ourselves is necessary for all these other wrong ideas that you basically you can't look out for number one, if the number one you're looking out for doesn't even exist. That maybe in a it could be quite fast, perhaps, even if you understood not that you don't exist, you exist.

It's great. I'm so glad you could make it tonight. And please continue to be a part of this community.

But that the you that you would serve, the you that is separate from people in a way such that you could serve them without serving other people, the you that you think you can put ahead of other people just doesn't even exist, just doesn't even exist. And if you can defeat that part of your mind, then maybe selfishness would disintegrate. Selfishness is dependent upon this idea of somebody who has a relationship with the world that isn't coming from our heart, that isn't evolving every moment, that the people I see outside of me, that I think are truly separate from me.

Somehow I have some me that is unconnected to you, that if I were broken of that misunderstanding, I could never even imagine. I could never even imagine trying to serve myself before other people. It would just seem crazy, impossible.

Crazy talk. Thank you, Mr. Kramer, Professor Kramer. Juan Jasso, did you have a question as well?

Yeah, it was just clarification.

[Speaker 2]
I found it very interesting that the phrase, what was it? Lungdu Matempa?

[Speaker 1]
How did that came to be, or translated as just neutral? And you briefly mentioned something I found it very interesting if you could deepen a little bit on it. Sure.

One of my favorite topics. So, Lungdu Matempa, which I'm putting in the chat right now, which is also shortened to Lungdu or Lungmatem, okay? This Lung means a transmission, something directly from your teacher's lips.

And it means things the Buddha said. So, if you look at the Vinaya, for instance, which is all the rules of how you should act, where Buddha said all kinds of things are you shouldn't do and you should do. So, he gave a Lungten for those, right?

A Lungdu Tempa. He actually uttered very specific rules and said, this is bad to do, this is good to do. Okay?

And so, when he didn't say anything on a topic, it's literally, he did not utter a word on it, right? He did not say specifically whether this is good or bad. That doesn't mean it is good or bad.

It just means he didn't say that. So, that is Lung said, Lungmaten did not utter those words, did not speak, did not give that teaching. So, that came to mean, in general, things that are neutral, meaning we don't know what the Buddha thought.

So, it's neither good or bad. Yeah. So, can we say something like in the scripture, it would say like, for example, like this particular topic is something that was not said in the transmission, but because you know what it means, you will translate it as this is something that is neutral.

Yeah, it's an idiom. It doesn't mean that in this case, it doesn't mean the Buddha didn't say it. It just means neutral.

It came to mean just the word neutral, like as an idiom.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, you're welcome. Yay, good question. Any other questions?

I can keep talking about Yunyi. Well, I'll keep talking. I think this whole thing about neutral and causes an obstacle is strange.

Okay. I think if something is neutral, how could it cause an obstacle, right? Jason Coppa gets into it some, and I need more clarification on it.

But basically, it seems like neutral means not that bad. It's not that negative, or it's not non-virtuous. We had some examples in my first text, The Golden Key, which you should go on the internet and buy immediately.

And in that book, we have some references, and it says things like being in meditation and not having a very clear mind. So it's not that not having that clear mind is some horrible thing, but it is going to stop you from achieving perfect concentration. So therefore, that is an obstacle.

But in and of itself, having a slightly cloudy mind isn't non-virtuous. But in that context, it does cause an obstacle. So maybe that's helpful for you.

[Speaker 2]
I'm thinking about connecting this particular aspect with the three doors.

[Speaker 1]
I think it's the three doors of emptiness, in the sense of you analyze the emptiness of the subject as a cause, as a result, and as it is in the present moment. So if it's an obstacle, in a way, in the sense of what it's going to cause, it should be a negativity. Because if not having a clear mind, let's say, at the same time it's planting a seed that it's going to, I'm guessing, bring a negative result.

Would you say it's the case or not? Will the result be negative? Yeah, in the sense that if something is an obstacle, it means that it's preventing something from happening.

But at the same time, it should be perpetuating the certain states of mind and planting new seeds, let's say that way. Yeah, I think in and of itself, the thing is not negative, but it would stop something negative if it's in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's literally like an obstruction in the road.

Like if there was a block in the road, if it's at the wrong place at the wrong time, it's going to be negative. But if it's stopping you from going into a pothole, then that in and of itself is not negative, but it is obstructing. You still have to go around it.

[Speaker 2]
Because your dull mind could also prevent you from anger, let's say.

[Speaker 1]
It could. I mean, if you want to go to sleep, your dull mind is fine because you need to go to sleep.

[Speaker 2]
I guess.

[Speaker 1]
But if you're trying to see emptiness, then that's a bit of an obstacle. Okay. Thank you.

Good questions. Anyone else? I'll do a little wrap up and then we'll go to Peachtree World News, I believe.

So, yeah. Mind-only school, in a sense, is kind of complicated. But the basic idea is this.

There's part of our mind that stores our experiences. And whatever experiences we do, whether they're good or they're bad, comes out as good or bad experiences. Okay?

And that's called foundation consciousness. And there's another part of our mind that watches that foundation consciousness for the good and bad things and interprets. And that interpretation basically is what creates our reaction to those experiences that come out and considers them, hey, you're hurting me, you're doing something bad to me, or that's my thing.

You should stop that. Right? And that's what makes what would otherwise be neutral experiences negative.

So, that's basically the relationship between the foundation consciousness and negative consciousness. That is all. Bravo.

Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Ward.

That's wonderful. I appreciate you taking the lead tonight, leading a nice discussion. Thank you very much for preparing well to be able to do a nice job of it.

It shows and we appreciate putting in the time to make a nice class for everybody. And Juan Jasso, are you ready? You're smiling.

That's a start.

[Speaker 2]
I was mute, but now I'm not. So, thank you very much. I actually enjoyed the class very much.

It's very interesting. I think Ward is a very good teacher. Thank you, Ward, for sharing with us.

Okay. Today, we also have another two very good teachers with us. You may know them from before.

One of them is called Nicholas, and the other is called Ben.

[Speaker 1]
They are around and they want to talk with us. I was talking with Ben about, well, not talking, but proposing him to talk about more in depth about what's the plan for the Good Night Reading Club.

[Speaker 2]
Like, how can we start accessing these books? How can we actually sign up for it? What's going to happen?

We'll get to know more in detail because I've been hearing about it. But through this, I still don't know how to start right now.

[Speaker 1]
So, Nick and Ben, are you around? We are. Yes, we're here.

Okay. We just need, let me see. Oh, yeah, yeah.

That's what I was trying to see, your beautiful faces. And Ben, can someone in the Zoom spotlight Ben? Yes, because we are having a multiple discussion here.

[Speaker 2]
So, can you tell us a little bit of how long have you been cooking this plan? Because I bet this is something that has been cooking. I remember even from the very beginning of the Schwanzen Tower, Geshe Michael at some point said, like, the classes are going to be free, but then at some point, we're going to try to encourage you to sign up for something.

So, tell us a little bit about the story about how to actually use it and the implications you see in the near future for it.

[Speaker 1]
Nick, you're going to be stronger in details, and I'm going to be stronger in storytelling, maybe. I'm sure you're sifting for links right now. I will tell you that the story of the conception is that we have a teacher who is very wise in looking into what people need.

And our best ideas are often to defer to a teacher who can see things that we can't see. So, there's this need in the world. We're reading our phones at night.

I used to be a much better, like a well-read guy. And now I have this thing, and it eats pieces of my brain. I would stare at it for a while, and I see the battery life go back up.

And I know even when it's not plugged in, it just means that it ate another piece of my brain. And that's the real power that charges these. And so, yeah, our teacher, our director, saw a need and encouraged us to support people in having an excuse to put devices away at night.

So, we always want the program to be free. And even when we charged money for programming, all you had to do was write to Nick and say, hey, man, give me a break, man.

[Speaker 2]
Telling them the secret now, it's too late.

[Speaker 1]
We still let everybody in the program. We're just finding ways to support the program, and it is our belief. This is what they call putting your money where your mouth is.

As we say, if we say we can support ourselves better by giving things away, then we probably shouldn't charge you for this. Does that make sense? If we really want to keep this program alive, then it's probably very important that we give it away.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, and I would add to that, that for us, there's levels of priority, right? And we really want this program and these ideas to last forever. And we want the chance to go for hundreds of years so we can translate everything.

And for that, we need help. And the most important thing to us is that it's available. So, anybody can come all the time.

[Speaker 1]
And the main thing is that we're able to spread these ideas to the world and help people put them into practice.

[Speaker 2]
And so, as Ben mentioned, the classes are accessible to you and help us make it happen with small or large financial subscriptions. And that's kind of the motivation for developing the Good Night Book Club. And it wasn't actually Ben and my brainchild.

You were seeming to give us credit. And it actually seems to be still evolving and it's coming from the mind of Geshe Michael Roach. And I will show you what it is, since you're asking, to the best of my knowledge, in its current iteration.

So, the important thing for you to see in this picture here is this, what Geshe Michael calls the valise. It's a small bag with a time lock or a lock. And you put your electronics in there at night.

And what you take out that's been stored in there for the day is your Mixed Nuts book. So, put your electronics away. Take out something good to read, like a Treatise on the Mind-Only School, or lighter reading, perhaps, a Treatise on the Abhidharma School, or Logic, or The Middle Way, or The Wheel of Life.

So, there's going to be lots of interesting books that, on one hand, are available on tablets, but you're not going to look at them on your tablets at night, because you subscribed to the Good Night Book Club, and you're going to read them on printed paper. And depending on the level that you join at, you can read translations in your language or in English and help us correct them.

[Speaker 1]
And if you subscribe to quite a substantial subscription cost, you will receive, not too substantial, okay, medium, you will receive beautiful hardcover versions like you see posted here. So, please subscribe. It helps to keep these classes for free, and it helps to keep our efforts in motion to translate all of these books.

And I'm going to post some QR codes for you, other than these, because I have more for you.

[Speaker 2]
And, Nick, is this ready to start happening? Like, can I, could I sign up, like, tonight or anytime? Tonight, yes, start immediately.

Although I have something to say about that, so thank you for asking. Here's some QR codes, by the way. Depending on your region of the world, you will subscribe through a different link, okay?

And that's, we have these people who are gracefully coordinating the subscriptions, and they will make sure you get the books that you have subscribed to, and you can start immediately. That said, and I wanted to mention this, there's a little bit of, we're still having some hard stuff happening in the back end. Some of the countries where the developers for these landing pages live are having serious problems, and so occasionally their internet can be out for a while.

So, some of the pages are not updated, so apologies for that. And, you know, we're, bear with us. We're waiting for our web builders to come back online.

As you know, there's some parts of the world that are less peaceful than others right now, and so we're just, like, waiting for our web builders to fix a couple pages. But if you subscribe, if you give your information there, you will be subscribed. The descriptions won't be accurate, maybe for another day or two on some pages.

But if you sign up here, you will be subscribed, and depending on how much you subscribe for, you will, you know, gain access to various tiers of subscription.

[Speaker 1]
If you have any questions, you can reach out to me or a handful of others, or Ben will direct you to the right place.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, and do you happen to know what's the very first book that you're going to receive if you sign up?

[Speaker 1]
I mean, let's say in the United States.

[Speaker 2]
I believe that the first book that you'll receive when you sign up will be the book that I worked on, The 60 Verses on Reasoning, along with lecture notes by Gels and Jake, which is a pretty good book. But it depends on your karma, you know. Your karma might not be as good, and you might get, like, something else, like the only school, Great Ideas of the East, or something like that.

Okay, thank you very much. And what else is to be known? So you're going to get a bookcase for your computer, but another little thing for your cell phone, right?

I don't know the specifics, Juan. Where did you hear that? I think it's one bag.

[Speaker 1]
I think, I can't, I remember Geshe-la was saying something during the Kyoto retreat, because what's the point if you put your computer away, but you still have your phone around?

[Speaker 2]
I don't know, just saying. If you try to keep your phone out, and you put your laptop in the bag, then I think Rob Haggerty comes to your house and confiscates all your electronics for 48 hours. So it may include Rob.

I think it's one bag. I think it's one bag, and you're going to get all, I think you pay separately for the bag. It's part of your contribution.

Okay, so in order to get to know more, we will have to scan that QR code and dig in a little bit.

[Speaker 3]
Can I fit my, will my seven-year-old fit in the bag?

[Speaker 2]
In order to get this level of detail, like what size of electronic devices or children will fit in the bag, you have to subscribe, and this is part of the excitement of subscribing. That's helpful. Yeah, and I think a seven-year-old is a little past the limit, but if he's flexible, which I reckon he is, given who his mother is, I think you'll be able to fit him in a valise.

That's really exciting. That's really exciting. That's going to definitely help me sleep at night.

[Speaker 1]
It's a big program we've got going on here. This is revolutionary.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, so thank you very much. We will have to check it out. I'm actually getting the QR code right now to do further explanation after the program.

So thank you very much. Thank you very much. Best wishes with this program, with this project, I mean.

It looks interesting. It's like a big step on the preservation of this ancient wisdom.

[Speaker 1]
I've seen this whole Diamond Cutter Classics company growing, including each one of their members.

[Speaker 2]
I had the fortune to be able to attend some of the first terms in Sedona, and I can see as an observer how much all of you have been growing and learning, and it's wonderful.

[Speaker 1]
Sending my best wishes. Keep it up.

[Speaker 2]
Thanks, Juan. If you guys have questions about this, you can also ask that during the Q&A, although we'll do our best to answer.

[Speaker 1]
We might not be able to give you the perfect answers unless Lindsay is here.

[Speaker 2]
And just before we move on to the next Q&A, I want to also share with you and with the audience something very beautiful and cool that just happened yesterday.

[Speaker 1]
Because as many of you know, Geshe Michael's birthday was just yesterday.

[Speaker 2]
So we have some special secret agents all over the world. In this case, we had some assets who were able to give us some exclusive content that we want to show with you. Okay, so I'm going to share my screen and I'm going to share this super cool content that happened yesterday.

Okay, ready? Share with audio. And there you go.

Oh, my God. I haven't had that card in ages.

[Speaker 3]
Oh, my God.

[Speaker 2]
I hope you like it. I hope you like it very much. Actually, we do have one more video, but I don't know if we have time.

It's like four minutes long or maybe we save it for next time. What do you guys think? It's a speech Geshe Michael shared in Kyoto.

[Speaker 1]
You want to see it now or some other time? Who could resist? There are so many people excited to hear.

You can't do that to people. You knew that when you asked, right?

[Speaker 2]
I guess. Okay, let's watch it. It's a very cool inspirational speech.

And here we have it. Sorry. Yes, share.

It's a pleasure to meet each one of you. And what all of you are doing is incredible. And I think 2024 is going to be even more, even better.

You can see Nick is there. So you guys know me later. But the early years were quite difficult.

And you are seeing the growth after many years of hard work. I just want to say that I'm very, very happy. And I'm very, very grateful to each person here.

[Speaker 1]
非常感恩在座的每一位 And I have a strange night. I hide in my house.

[Speaker 2]
And most of my friends know I don't even go outside until one o'clock or something.

[Speaker 1]
And I just meditate, translate in the morning. I don't go anywhere.

[Speaker 2]
And then I go to meet Seiji and we film. And then I teach almost every day now.

[Speaker 1]
I have to teach. And it means I have to trust other people to do all the business. And you can't believe, but I don't know where is the company bank account.

I don't know how much money we make. I don't know who is working for the company. Nothing.

And you guys take care of everything. Especially the design staff and organizers. And honestly, for the first time in my life, I have enough income to relax.

[Speaker 2]
And I don't have to, to be honest, I don't have to think about money. I don't spend a lot of money. As you know, I give it all away.

[Speaker 1]
But I'm very, very grateful for the peace of mind. I don't have to think about money. And I can focus on the content.

So it's very rare in your life to have a chance to do your passion all the time. And somebody like Seiji and the rest of you guys, to do all the hard work. And I know it's hard work.

Because I did it for my teachers. And I'm really very grateful. My life is like a dream right now.

It's so pleasant to be with all my friends here. And it's pleasant to have all these friends. So I wish you all a long life.

And please make a commitment to take care of people. We don't know how long grandpa will last. But you make your own commitment to keep going.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you very much. Hope you like it. I find it very inspiring.

Geshe Michael motivating each one of us to take personal responsibility. And we want to wish Geshe-la a very, very happy birthday. And many, many more.

[Speaker 1]
Please stay and keep guiding us. Keep helping us. And teaching us.

Thank you very much.

[Speaker 2]
And I will go back to you. Who is leading the Q&A event, maybe. Nick?

And all the rest of the Mixed Nuts who are here. There's Tim. If you're a Mixed Nut, come on.

Get ready.