Тим Ловенхопт — Книга 1: Совершенство мудрости, занятие 60

[Speaker 1]
Kind of keep the flow of the class. That's why I was kind of excited about it. Awesome.

So let's see here. I did put together a homework today. Sorry, translators, you don't get it ahead of time, but you know, that's how these things go.

All right. So we're in the middle of Master Hari Bhadra's biography and he has two dreams. And actually, I had a moment to clarify some of the questions we had on Saturday with Geshe-la this afternoon.

So it was kind of cool to get a little bit of clarity and homework will illuminate it. So Master Hari Bhadra had two dreams. Does anyone remember what the content of the first dream was?

And then you weren't here, so you don't have to answer. I know. He had a dream of, was it a dream within a dream?

We were wondering. It turned out it's not a dream in a dream. It's actually two separate dreams.

Okay. Two separate dreams. So one of the dreams was about a monk named...

I don't think he had a name. Or something. No, it wasn't his name.

He didn't have a name, unfortunately. I mean, he probably did have a name, but the biography does not mention it. And then there was a dream about Maitreya.

Yeah. So let's just focus on the first dream, please. So the first dream was with a monk.

Do you remember what the monk looked like? He was wearing a... Sorry.

Oh, that's okay. I'm so happy to hear you. So I actually got clarity on it.

He wasn't wearing saffron robes. He had the aspect of saffron color. So Geshe-la said that he had golden colored skin.

And then the expression that was there was Chilam Sepa. And we thought that he was doing beautiful activities. But Chilam Sepa, in this case, meant that he had an elegant way of being.

Just the way that he moved. Just his general aspect was extremely elegant. And do we remember what he did, or what he said to Master Haribhadra?

What the message was? He made a prophecy that he's going to go to the East. I wasn't making a...

I mean, we do say Lungten, but he didn't make a prophecy. It was a little bit different than a prophecy. It's kind of an instruction, right?

Yeah, yeah. It was more of an instruction. It was like, you should go to the East.

Right. And so, and towards a place called Kasarvani, or Kasarvani, something like... We don't know.

It was written in Tibetan, West Chinese. I couldn't find it in India at all, or anything. But someplace towards the East named that.

Geshe-la didn't know the name of the town either. Okay, cool. Now he has a second dream.

Who did he meet in that second dream? Udpala. Our lord and protector, Maitreya.

Yes, he met Maitreya in the second dream. And what did Maitreya look like? And what message did Master Hari Bharadwaj receive?

He was speaking the 8,000 verses. Well, he had spoken the 8,000 verses as an offering in the beginning of the dream, and because of that, he then met Maitreya. Oh, I see.

But do you remember what Maitreya looked like? I don't know. He had a golden face, ornamented by some kind of chitin.

Stupa at the top of his head? Yeah, right. And I asked Geshe-la, and he said exactly that.

He had a golden face, and he had some kind of like headdress or something in the shape of a stupa on the top of his head. And then what? And did he have his hand in the mudra of giving teachings?

Yeah, which hand? His right hand. Nice, good memory.

Yes. And then what message did Master Hari Bharadwaj receive from Lord Maitreya? If there's so many versions nowadays, which one should we follow?

That was Master Hari Bharadwaj's question too. Right. And so he asked if he would be so kind as to compose a book, which would be a compendium of one of those ideas.

Right. It was more he just gave him the permission to compose explanations of those commentaries. And was given permission to do so.

Correct. And when we say given permission, what was the expression that we thought about? We used a different expression that Geshe-la uses a lot.

What happens when you get close to a teacher within like a certain radius? You get roped into projects. Right.

You get a project. Right. So we loosely translated one of the words.

He gave him permission to write commentaries, which really was more like, hey, go ahead. Here's your project. Go write them.

Cool. And the third question is, how did Master Hari Bhadra then set himself up to write all those commentaries? And what can we learn about our own fundraising efforts from this?

He headed west and looked for a sponsor immediately. That's right. He got a project and the first thing he did was look for a sponsor.

Go west, my son. Go west, my son. Nice.

So then when he went west to look for a sponsor, how did he acquire a sponsor? Something about thousands of Sangha members. What did he do to entice the sponsor to give him money?

Didn't he teach him cool stuff? He taught him cool stuff. Yes.

Like Geshe Michael does to a sponsor? Exactly right. Yeah.

So what can we extrapolate about our own fundraising efforts for whatever projects we have? Learn to teach cool stuff because you're going to need it. Learn to teach cool stuff.

Yes. And I think that's a cool way of fundraising is just teach people the cool stuff that they need to know. And then when the time's right, ask for support.

All right. Three words. Meelam.

[Speaker 2]
Dream.

[Speaker 1]
Dream. I'm watching some faces here. Dream, right?

And we didn't mention it in the explanation. What's Moong Nay? What's what?

If I can't pronounce it correctly. Oh. Moong Nay.

Moong Nay. Yes.

[Speaker 2]
Retreat.

[Speaker 1]
What's that?

[Speaker 2]
One day retreat. One day vow.

[Speaker 1]
Fasting. Some kind of fasting. Fasting.

Right. And one of the things that Masaharu Bajir did after his first dream is he fasted for three days on his way to the east. And then he met Maitreya.

And then we had a whole discussion about whether, you know, should we take this literally or not? Should we all go and start fasting for three days if we want to meet Maitreya? And we discussed how it might be a figurative thing and not necessarily a direct practice.

And then the last one. Nangwanto'o. Clear water.

Noah. Being given a project. Yes.

He accomplished the project. He accomplished getting a project. Yeah.

He accomplished getting a project. Yes. So anytime you get.

Period. Period like that. The pole is period.

B.O. is period. Oh, I get it. Okay.

Sorry. Yeah. So get close to a teacher.

It's dangerous because you will get a project or if it's what you want. All right. Thank you.

All right, everyone. Let's go back to the text. Where is my text?

All right. Here's where we stopped. All right.

Let's. This is a super fun paragraph. How about Dr. Bernie?

I would love to. All right. Twice in one day.

We have the top one, Gilbo, or Dakni? Sorry, I am. Oh, my gosh.

This is huge. Okay, here we go. Is that better?

The length is still the same, but. Okay. It looks bigger.

Gilbo. Jar? Jarway?

Correct. Jarway. Is it chuck?

I don't think so. No, puck. Oh, puck puck.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
That's better. Nangwa. Yeah, so this is Galpo Dharmapala is the person, king that Haribhadra went to in search of a sponsor.

I think it's Dharmapala. Oh, you're right, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dharmapala. And then the Sa is the instrument, or the jantav. Right?

Uh-huh. Exactly. Okay.

So this sponsor, Jindak Jainay. Having accepted him as the sponsor? Sure, or after sponsoring, after sponsoring the teachings.

From sponsoring? Yeah, from sponsoring. Then, Jamgungi Lung Tenvardar.

Just as if he, the teaching was being transmitted by the protector, Maitreya. Was it the teaching, or is it just like the the Lung Tenba that Maitreya gave to him? Yeah.

Or is that... Oh, just like the prophecy? Yeah, just like he had prophesied that he would do?

Maybe, I forgot the prophecy. The prophecy was, the prophecy was go compose right here. Oh, the Maitreya of the clouds?

Yeah, the Maitreya, the one who was half in the clouds, right? With the thing on his head. Yeah, the stupa.

Yeah, just like where Maitreya prophesied would occur. Right. Now, what happens here?

Let's go all the way to the bottom. Okay, just so we can get a verb. He composed.

Yeah, he composed these. He composed, and what did he compose? All of these.

This is a list of his compositions. This is super awesome. All right, here we go.

The first composition, Mentokengi Drela Densel.

[Speaker 2]
The... I'm meaning a commentary on the ornament of realization.

[Speaker 1]
Right, and this is the primary commentary to the Jewel of Realization that Kedrup Tempadarge uses as the basis of his commentary. So that's the most famous one. And then we get some more things here.

Mentokengi Drela Densel. That whole thing here. All right, so it looks like...

I wasn't quite sure what the whole thing was. It looks like a great commentary. It does.

Yeah. And then we have... He wrote, it's two books, right?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
The combination of the two books, sorry. Yeah, it's the combination of the personal advices. Yeah.

Upadesha or something. Yeah. So then we have the 8,000 verses and the Jewel of Realization again.

So it looks like another long commentary on those two together. Yeah. The name is the Great Commentary to 8,000 Verses, which is an instruction based on the teaching of the two books, right?

Right. That sounds pretty...

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
All right. Then we have another book. Pakpa Drel De Sepe Nitri Nangwa.

And by the Exalted One or the Arya, I'm not sure, Vimukti Sena? Right, right. Vimukti Sena is what, Nitri Nangwa?

Pakpa Drel De. Drel De. Yeah.

Right. So it's a commentary. I'm sorry.

Pakpa Drel De is Vimukti Sena. So the first one was books by Maitreya that he wrote on. And now we're talking about books by Vimukti Sena that he wrote on.

And those, yeah, the books composed by Vimukti Sena, which he commented on, were the Nitri Nangwa, 20,000, illuminating the 20,000 verses, I guess, lines. Something like that. Yeah.

Yeah. And then there's the next one of this one. No.

Dang Tun means in... Oh, right, the Dang Tun part, yeah. Yeah, a book which was in alignment with that book, which was a condensed...

Right, right, right, I see. Yeah, which was the condensed meaning of the book in... Of the Nitri, yeah.

In eight chapters or eight parts or something? Right, I see, because this Ma is in the title of the book. Yeah.

So in eight chapters, I like what you said, condensed meanings of the Nitri, which contained all of this, right?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, right, so it's an eight-chapter summary of the perfection of wisdom in 20,000 verses, which follows the commentary of Vimukti Sena, which I guess is, I don't know, is it called the illumination of the 20,000 line?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, I think the illumination of, yeah, I think something 20,000. I looked it up and some say 25,000. Okay.

But it's some large number.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Composed by him. Okay, cool. All right, then we have another book here.

Good, this one's easy. The easy... Dawa, right?

Dawa, excuse me.

[Speaker 2]
It's easy to understand.

[Speaker 1]
The easy to understand commentary... Which condenses the precious qualities. A condensed commentary to the precious qualities, Yuntan Rinpoche.

Okay, that's great that it's easy to understand. And Sherchen Gomba, so meditations on the perfection of wisdom, I guess.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
I want to find that one.

[Speaker 2]
Sounds cool.

[Speaker 1]
And then this last one here, chapter, I don't know. Namye literally means grammatical case. I don't know if that's what it means here.

I don't know if Chandra is a person here. Is it Master Chandrakirti or Master Chandragomi or is it just means the moon?

[Speaker 2]
I think Chandragomi has a famous grammar. So that would be convenient for this to be Namye's grammatical cases in verse, the song of grammatical cases by Chandragomi.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, it seems like something like that. Someone should check. Did you check this one, Tim?

I did not check this one, I guess. I didn't know who this was. Yeah, we don't.

I'll look. Yeah. But yeah, so that's kind of cool.

He did all these cool things and finally wrote a book on grammar. That's kind of nice. All right, next line.

Thank you, Earl, for reading that long paragraph. Mike Hoffman, can you read the next paragraph, please? I can, thank you.

May you do, please. I have a feeling that breaking this up is not that wasn't the right place to break this up. Maybe it was.

I don't know if that book is by Chandragomi or somebody else. I think it's called Chandra from what I found in the catalog, but other people could look further. The moon, like the shining moon on grammar cases written in verse.

But someone else can look if you want to. I didn't find much. Okay.

And it looks like what's happening next, if I'm reading all these correct, is it's kind of giving an explanation of what's in the books. Some of the topics that are in the books here. That's what I think, but I could be wrong here.

So, definitely.

[Speaker 2]
You know, it's what's funny word is there's a Chandra by Chandra Gomi. So, yes, and yes, the book is called. Chandra Gomi's, or they're the like grammar of the moon or something, or the utterances, like the moon, but it's also trying to hear Chandra Gomi who wrote it.

[Speaker 1]
All right. Great.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, so yes.

[Speaker 1]
And what are the dates. It's around 700 circus 700. Because I think, because I'm having a blank of Harry Badger states.

650 80 circa. Oh, yeah, that. Yeah, somewhere like, yeah, so that wouldn't be a commentary on Chandra Gomi's tax would it.

[Speaker 2]
I don't have as clear a date, at least my cursory search for Chandra Gomi is a little fuzzy.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. We have the dates.

[Speaker 2]
But early, maybe in sixth century.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Wonder if we have any dates up here. I just curious.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Remember, I know we talked about it but I didn't really look. I don't have this in my, in my database above my head. Right.

We came before it seems like it. Yeah, I would just continue.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Fifth century.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, that would work.

[Speaker 1]
All right. Okay, let's. All right.

[Speaker 2]
This fantastic fella.

[Speaker 1]
This great guy yes. All right. I'm a hot.

Yeah. Yeah. And Ken wrote down to James.

His lineage his wisdom lineage. He is knowledge like I would say the other is lineage. Yeah, his, his, his lineage of his wisdom and and and compassion I think it's differentiating between one lineage.

His two lineages. What up with an S means lineage. Ken rub.

Took it. He had two separate lineages, one for wisdom and one for compassion. I yeah right, although you would expect that it up right to be later than which makes me wonder if it's a boo boo.

[Speaker 2]
Um, I wonder if it's a misspelling, it'd be, it'd be a lot more comfortable if it said, without an S. Yeah, you'd have super awesome knowledge and, and, you know, and, and compassion. And I think it's best with both, which is cool, because we're going to talk about his, his relation to the long run.

[Speaker 1]
Right. Yeah. I would look at the next line because they're going to explain it right now I think.

I mean it could be that many could be the not like the wisdom lineage and compassion and just assume that we understand that that's together that the comparable.

[Speaker 2]
So, it certainly means something like that.

[Speaker 1]
Like Lord, like saying like Lord to show like, right, he got two separate lineages, like to get to get his. He sources information on each lineage from two different groups. I think so go go to the next thing because I think they explain.

Yeah, so, Justin jumping couldn't couldn't put. So we have the protector my trail. Right.

Right. So, from him or by him, you know from my trail. We have the gin, gin, gin up a to drop it and sell me.

Yes, through my tray is Lord my tray is blessing. He, he is magical blessing. He, he like received the.

He was able to write the drug bud and so right by the power of that blessing right. Yeah. So, which is pretty cool I mean they get the blessing of the author of, of the text that's pretty cool.

All right. And then, and the head of the 2k lineage, which, which, that's why I think they're going to explain it. Okay.

Now we have john show john show them. To enlighten me. Right, the path to enlightenment.

Low, low john low john one.

[Speaker 2]
I would say for those who are training their minds in that in in the long run.

[Speaker 1]
You think it's literal here.

[Speaker 2]
I do. Because for them, it's like a meek. An eye to dollar.

The day the collection of sutras of the perfection of wisdom.

[Speaker 1]
It says though day while though. That means, yeah. Literally.

I think it's a dumb cop but oh I think, oh, oh the suture is the suture, the people who follow the sutures of the perfection of wisdom. Yeah, that's how I would read it. I think so.

Yeah. Well, I mean the thing is the south end South Africa. No, no, no, right, it's not South Africa at all.

That wouldn't make any sense.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, verb. BLTA, maybe.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, it might be.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, just dollar. Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Those who depend upon who use that I to depend upon or just for view for for viewing for looking at.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. Oh yeah but put it to the. Oh, to the right of.

Oh I see. Yeah yeah you got it you got it I'm sorry you got it. Correct.

[Speaker 1]
Right. So, let's go back and do that all again I think we got it but I think I just wanna make sure everyone heard it. So, where were we so we had.

Okay. And for those I think you're correct then for those who are training their mind. You know, in the path to total enlightenment.

[Speaker 2]
Right, yeah steps of the path.

[Speaker 1]
Right, then you have topper topper gear.

[Speaker 2]
It's like it's because it has come to be like an eye, an eyeball.

[Speaker 1]
Like an eyeball which looking. Yeah, like for looking for looking at the collection of the collection of the. Yeah, of the perfection of wisdom sutras, and I through which one may see as much as much more elegant than, than, like an eyeball for eyeball for viewing.

[Speaker 2]
So my commentary the eyeball for viewing.

[Speaker 1]
So the next part should, I mean, it should be about the wisdom lineage. I would think. Let's find out.

Yeah, let's see. All right, get done. So the other great comment, the other.

So basically we're learning about the different books so the first book he wrote up here. Right, was the comment it was this commentary right until can be drilled and so the next one. Next paragraph is, is about.

Yeah. All right, wait, wait, I might be redacting my earlier opinion. Ben do you think that some but maybe means like none higher or something, matchless, it could be matchless.

Yeah, I think it's incomparable wisdom. Okay, the, the lineage of wisdom and, and compassion, with no match.

[Speaker 2]
I suspect, yes, I don't think I think it's a type of, I think it's, I think it's robbed without the saw, or not. Yeah, I think it may be just a mistake.

[Speaker 1]
It could be because then it could be like an honorific of shut up. Oh, I've never heard that one. Okay.

Which makes me wonder about who Duffy temple is.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, I assume, because it's the this. It's Mr Harry Potter.

[Speaker 1]
This great guy. This is. Okay.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, this guy who had can rub and took it. That was soon by me.

[Speaker 1]
Did he did he get enlightened in his lifetime. Well, at the beginning of his biography, he was said that he chose to come to the planet like this. So I, it was a presumption that he already was.

But I don't know I didn't read the very last paragraph series I don't know if he spoilers.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, come on, geez.

[Speaker 1]
All right.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. It got enlightened in the lounge with the wrench.

[Speaker 1]
Did someone read this next verse. You're absolutely right. Nobody did.

I just got excited to keep going. Okay. Let's see here.

1010. Are you translating Oh you're talking. Okay.

All right. How about you're talking to our CEO you're talking. You're talking to.

All right, Kentaro you talking, but you can't. All right, let's go.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

All right.

[Speaker 1]
Right, very good. All right. So, in relationship to gate home drill Jenny.

So about the great commentary on the 8000 verses. All right. Don't go.

First, first chapter probably. Yeah, okay. That's why I didn't know it.

Donna. First chapter. County, your, your day one day.

Cleaning cleaning up before you meditate cleaning sweeping your house. Thank you. Thank you word I was, I was like, what the heck is going on here.

Okay, it's saying it's it's covering everything from from from that up until she didn't lock down.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like preliminary or initial practice, the beginning practice, like from there.

[Speaker 1]
Right. Okay, cool. So, starting from getting up in the morning and cleaning up your house.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Through, is that what this means. So, yes. Like, I think that's achieving look because there's a name.

All right, you're achieving. Okay. She knew which is shamatha, or.

Yeah. And locked on the passion.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Those two achieving those two. Some, some to drill, putting them when you combine those two together. Uh huh.

Right. The yoga to achieve yogic meditation.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, the yoga union of the pair of stillness and wisdom.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, seeing emptiness directly. Yeah. Okay.

And. And there's the power. It means it goes with the name after cheat or trauma.

So, from that, all the way up until okay I'm sorry. I hear great but get off my place. Meaning the whole, the whole meditation path.

[Speaker 2]
I get excited.

[Speaker 1]
All right, from there, all the way up into the whole that, like that the achievement of the highest meditation. Right. Cable soon so many longer impact.

So the, this, the three, the three types of practitioners right, the three scopes, three scopes. Yeah. Yeah.

Point. Uh huh. Yeah, all of the, all of the, all of the crucial points of the, of the, of all the crucial points in the steps in the path of the three scopes.

Yeah, right. Yeah, he covers everything from cleaning up to achieving yoga perception for all three levels. All the crucial points for all three levels.

[Speaker 2]
Just like, just like they are. Yeah, just, just the way they are in, or in this sort of from the, the collection of sutras and wisdom. Right.

[Speaker 1]
All right. Sorry, there's also this some, some butter as well. Just as they are taught.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, just that, just like they're taught there. Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Right. And then. Longing.

No. But so the essence of the past. Right.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, that's a strange place to split the sentence maybe but yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Right. That is a weird places with the sentence. And I mean did you do it or did the boss do it.

I don't remember. Okay, okay, because I think the boss did it.

[Speaker 2]
Well, I would, I would stick to it and be frustrated then.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, because I don't think I split these up.

[Speaker 2]
Then, leave it his way and we're allowed to be confused.

[Speaker 1]
I think that's a good place to split it because he's done talking about the book. Now he's moving on to a different subject. Okay, John G something neighbor.

Let me read. Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead read sorry. I'm just so excited to keep going.

I'm excited to this is fun. Trying to swim this year she wants me to read her book to try and cheat some to Nepal tongue. One second book I'm reading this book to can she read this yet.

She probably can but she fakes it. I see. All right.

All right, so next topic I guess. John, she's something they buy. I have no idea what we're talking about here.

[Speaker 2]
I'm not sure that it.

[Speaker 1]
Number is fixed. What, yeah. What you say, Gibson.

I mean the number is fixed but I don't know what's the number referred to. Yeah, however, whatever the exact number is. Right, but what are we referring to all these books still right, I would continue.

I think it's the essential.

[Speaker 2]
That's why I didn't like the tongue I guess is I think it's, I think we're still talking about all of the essential points of the path for the types of person just as they were taught. What is the. What is there like nature, how many are they are there exactly what order do they happen in.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, I think this I agree Ben he's saying. One second. He's saying however, whatever the exact number is he taught them, and then the next part is whatever order.

Yeah, yeah, whatever the exact way, you know, something like that. Yeah. Right, then we have.

Okay, he taught he clearly taught. Right.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Right, because what this would almost be the, if this is the verb here this kind of.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. He taught them very clearly without even the subtlest of mistake or subtle mistakes right.

[Speaker 1]
So maybe it's, you know, maybe, maybe this would be the place. If we would do. This might be the place to split it.

But we're not going to change location Michael did. Right, because that makes sense that he took taught very clearly without even the smallest of mistakes, subtle as a mistake. The way it's all the ways are.

How are we ordered the core is the order of the of the steps. Right, the sequence right the order of the sequence right. Yeah.

And then, however many steps there are, or central points, yeah, essential points that are in whatever order they were and he taught them all correctly. So maybe it's a. He taught them very well.

Yeah, he taught them without even the slightest error. Right. Okay, so it might be an okay place to switch or switch it because we're talking about all the steps and then as we're getting a little bit more clarity of that.

All right. Nicole Raymond Nicole rare in a. Each of those steps, each of those topics, excuse me, right.

Topics of the lumber him right. Each of those topics.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Remember, for each one, he taught other great ways to practice. Each one of them. He did not, but he did not.

He did not need to throw anything away door right right doors throw so that's what it was throw away he didn't need to throw anything.

[Speaker 2]
Any other, it would be convenient if this were to say instead of chair. When, when practicing them. You don't need to throw the others away.

When practicing one. But I don't know Chase, I don't get Jay here, but say would work real nice.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, I think she just means. I think he's just saying they're great.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, but what what if you had a. Yeah, like, like in the, like, when putting them into practice. You know when putting each into practice you don't need to give up any of the other ones.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, I think this is like the understanding that everything is shared like there's, there's not there's not 1 single thing of any of these great practices from each of these topics that needs to be discarded.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, right. Yeah, right. So that's, you know, anyway, I agree.

But I, you know, just say instead of Jay would work better for me. But, um, yeah, I just don't, I don't guess what's so Jay about it, but like say would be like in doing that, like when doing that, which say you saying can you spell it. Oh, yeah.

Yes. Yeah, right. That's it.

That's it.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, it could be.

[Speaker 2]
Just like we're missing it.

[Speaker 1]
It could be very, it could be an easy mistake there. Yeah, it would just be a flag. Yeah.

I like it. Well, whatever that's first.

[Speaker 2]
But let's leave it in there and then we'll see if that question mark, you can blame me, but it's just a hot bends a jerk men's fault.

[Speaker 1]
I put that in my book all the time just just because it's all. Yep. I'll just leave it there when we update the text and then gash level.

[Speaker 2]
Probably get a giggle out of it eventually eons from now people remember there was some dumbass, excuse me. In the period who made a lot of mistakes.

[Speaker 1]
You forgot a verse there. Oh, no, I don't know where you are. I'm sorry.

[Speaker 2]
No, I don't think we did.

[Speaker 1]
I think it's wrong. Then there's. We said, I think, yeah, we did that that was each subject we did that keep going.

We're after them in one starts with me. Okay, whatever the, whatever, after the men pot. Go to that.

Next one, which is Nick. Yeah, okay. All right, I'm gonna have a reader.

How about Hawaii Tong. Give us a little read here.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you, teacher. Thank you, teacher.

[Speaker 1]
Sell to. Record Ray Ray, Ray Ray Ray individual. While subjects or contemplations.

Yeah, so let's let's do this whole section here. I think upon upon each of them, I think you have to go with Che-du. He explained.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

You said Che-du? I don't see a Che-du. Yeah.

Che-pa. Excuse me.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
So he explained. Right. Yeah.

He gave explanations of each of these subjects. Completely explained the body of the, of all the steps of each of the subjects. Yeah.

Cha-tsang-wa. Cha-tsang-wa-re. He, the complete, every part, the complete part of every part of the body of the path of each of these subjects or topics.

That's a long way of saying that. Hey, I didn't, I didn't write it. It's just making sure that we know that he covered every single essence and detail completely.

Yes. And he explained. All right.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So then he, he relied upon the, relying upon the personal vices of, of the Protector Maitreya, our Protector Maitreya. Indeed. Right.

Sa-du-ton. I don't know the word ton. What is that?

Ton? Isn't it utter? Isn't it like a katun?

Like to speak? To recite? Oh, yeah.

Could be recite. Yeah. It's recite, I think.

Yeah, he, he, he spoke, um, this explanation was spoken by, uh, looking at, uh, like, uh, searching depending on the vices of the Protector Maitreya, something like that. Okay. I think so.

Okay. All right. Next line.

Let's see. We got five more minutes. Oh, we're not going to finish today.

We're going to have to carry over to the next one. That'll be, we'll find out if it gets enlightened or not, Upala. Don't look.

Don't look. Yay. You don't think I have my own copy open on my screen?

I know.

[Speaker 2]
I have a good feeling about this young upstart mahatma.

[Speaker 1]
Young? He's like 2,000 years old.

[Speaker 2]
Well, he was young at some point.

[Speaker 1]
Beginningless list. All right. Let's see if we can get one more line in here.

How about Marina? Can you read the next line, please?

[Speaker 2]
Tanpa tanpa shanul netso.

[Speaker 1]
Tartin doje tabu tin. Tabui tin. Tabui is one word.

Okay. Tabui tin. And halit three together.

Getsin. Teningsin. Getsin.

Getsin. Getsin. Getsin.

And no. Getsin.

[Speaker 2]
Getsin.

[Speaker 1]
Naldrupa truptwa nngone chet. No, no, no. That's not go.

No. Ni. Ni.

Hi, Tom. Ni.

[Speaker 2]
Nia nge nal cheta tadpa tape.

[Speaker 1]
Yes, this is what this is what the book explains.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, it starts with the, I don't know, the, uh, the, whatever the chapter on freedom, I think, think, I think it means like, uh, things that will help, help you.

[Speaker 1]
Yep.

[Speaker 2]
Yep. Yep. Yep.

Those things. It's like, what do they say sometimes aspects of enlightenment, like the, the, those things which are conducive to freedom.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, good friends, good place, you know. Uh huh. Um, so and then the name it's a list.

It's a because it ends in part at the end there Tim.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. They soon he seems to be using as big like beginning from, like, start that are would be the end though. Yeah, the opposite of Dongbo here, you got the Dongbo and you got the tar.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, all the way to the ultimate and the ultimate, which is this like diamond like Samadhi concentration. Yeah, we had it in the golden key. It's, it's like the meditation of a Buddha.

Right. It's, it's Buddhahood. He's saying everything from having Dharma books and Sangha members around to bother you all the way up to shine.

I mean, let's be honest, all the way up to diamond like meditation.

[Speaker 2]
Audra Samadhi which Jay acts as a minion, a direct antidote to the to whatever the mistake of seeing appearance right the discrepancy of appearance.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, good. It's just discrepancy. In general, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the to.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. If you were in Sedona proper right now you would say duality.

[Speaker 1]
Not a guess.

[Speaker 2]
If you're in West Sedona. you call it. But not in VOC, we call it discrepancy.

[Speaker 1]
It's going to be like those Kashmiri schools. We're going to be the West Sedonaites, the Rimrockers. Yes, so all of that up until reaching, achieving the wisdom of all the knowledges, which are the three knowledges of the perfection of wisdom.

It's omniscience. Omniscience of all aspects, literally here, but it just means seeing everything.

[Speaker 2]
We're at time.

[Speaker 1]
From doing this, what happens next, Upala?

[Speaker 2]
No, no, no. Don't look. Nobody look.

It's 7.30. We have to go. I have to go. I can hear people knocking at the door.

Tim, thank you for doing this at the last minute.

[Speaker 1]
Sure. It was a lot of fun.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. Thank you, Marina. Thank you, translators.

Thank you and welcome to all of our guests who are tourists here today from all of the incredible meditations that they're getting all day long, except for that one that happened at two o'clock. Arizona time. I'm sorry about that, but everyone else taught very profound meditations and yeah, this was a great time together, friends.

[Speaker 1]
Thank you very much. Thank you, everyone. Yay.

[Speaker 2]
Thanks for bringing all your friends over, Uncle Earl.

[Speaker 1]
Marina, can you put up the link again for the YSI event so people can join just in case they want to jump over? Thank you. Thank you, Tim.

All right.