Сугэн Ши — Книга 2: Колесо жизни (первый принцип и подразделения зависимости), занятие 55

[Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Okay. All right.

Hi. Here we go. Okay.

Yeah. Okay, good. Welcome back to whatever we're doing next.

And we're going to do Sugeng Chi's book. I'll introduce Sugeng's book. Sugeng has been working on...

I'm going to show you something. Let me get it up on my screen. Okay, here it is.

Yeah, here we go. So here's a book. This is the first book in my life that I ever translated with a team of friends.

And that was about 45 years ago. And it was called... The book was called King Udayana and the Wheel of Life.

And I put my teacher's name on it. And this is a very famous tok chur, or avadana, which means it's a story of a king and how he studied dependent origination, or how the world comes about. So he was studying this painting.

This painting was designed by Lord Buddha. And it was sent by one king to another king, Bimbisara to Udayana. And the reason I brought the picture up this time was that maybe seven years ago, Sugeng and I worked on a translation of a book about these 12 links that you see around the circle.

And we finished that book. It's in editing now. We finished translation.

It'll be out shortly, I'm sure, when it gets to the editing team. And it's basically... Sugeng's first book about the 12 links in this Wheel of Life is a very, very deep debate book.

It's written in debate style. So actually, you learn about the 12 links. And these are 12 links, you can call it dependent origination.

But really, there are 12 steps in a chain reaction that creates all the suffering in the world. So really, his book is about suffering. And it's sort of a depressing topic.

But there are 12 actions or 12 habits that we have that cause all of the unhappiness in our life. They even cause our mortality. And Sugeng finished a major book from 500 years ago by Kedrup Denpa Dargye.

And that book is in a very deep philosophical style. Then, because we were working on that book, we found a rare book through John Brady's project, written 1,700 years ago by the half-brother, Barya Sanga, who wrote the last book we were talking about tonight. The other brother was Vasubandhu.

And he was a closet, mind-only guy. He wrote the mother book on the lower school, Abhidharma school, Vaibhashika school. He wrote that book, but he was not really a member of that school.

He wrote it to record the first school of Buddhism, because he was about to destroy it. He and his brother were about to destroy it, and they knew it. And they were afraid that the deep wisdom of the first school would be lost.

And that first school has a lot of amazing parts. For example, the presentation on karma, the principles of karma, in the fourth chapter of that book, are the standard for 2,500 years. So he was afraid those ideas would get lost.

So he wrote the book called Abhidharma Kosha, or the Treasure House of Iron Knowledge. And then he wrote it to record a school that he was about to destroy. And the irony of it is that that book became his most famous book, and no one ever read his other books.

So his brother's books, Sanga's books, about the mind-only school became very, very famous. And then Vasubandhu got stuck. He got famous for recording this school that he didn't even believe in.

So what happened with me and Sugeng is we found a commentary by him about the 12 links of where Cain comes from, from the mind-only school point of view. So he comes out of the closet, and he says, Yes, I wrote the other book, but I didn't believe it. And now I'm going to tell you what I really believe.

So we were very excited to find this book. There is a specific problem with the book. It was written 1,700 years ago.

It was recorded in the 10-year collection. It was translated into Tibetan about 1,000 years ago. And then the original was lost forever.

We have never found it. No one's ever found it. And there are no commentaries.

There are no explanations, which is extremely unusual. So you've got a very, very deep book. You've got one translation of it survives in history.

And the translator was drunk, okay? I'll probably go to hell for saying that. But he was a very unusual translator.

So he translated the book in very unusual language. So no one has ever cracked that book. No one has ever tried in history.

In 17 centuries, no one tried to crack that book. So, of course, Nixon wants to try. And that's why we're doing this again.

And it's a very deep book. The reason I show the picture right now is that we are working our way around the wheel. We are working our way around the wheel.

This outside circle here with 12 different drawings is the steps, the chain reaction that causes all human suffering. This outside rim of the wheel is held in the arms of death. This monster represents death.

And Buddha is outside of the wheel. And he's pointing to the instructions of how to get out of the wheel. And you can trace our progress of our translation around the wheel.

So we have finished the first picture here. I guess I could blow it up. This first picture here.

And by the way, I found this block print in the Himalayas when I was 18 or something. And it's the best one I've ever seen. And I brought it home.

Still have it. And so this first picture is what again?

[Speaker 3]
A blind man.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, it's a blind man. It represents...

[Speaker 3]
Misunderstanding.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, misunderstanding. For example, someone criticizes you and you don't understand that they are coming from seeds that you planted by criticizing someone else before. Then you respond to them with anger or you respond to them, you defend yourself.

But actually you created them. So that kind of attitude is blindness. And it's represented by a blind person.

We finished that section of this book. This unusual, amazing book is split into 12 parts. We're going to follow the wheel around the circle.

And that first link, which is called misunderstanding, is the second longest explanation of the 12. Usually, in most explanations of the wheel, they'll spend 50% of the book on the first link. In most explanations of the wheel, and there have been pundits recorded by John Brady's project and saved by John Brady's project, they'll spend half the time on the first link.

Because that's the one... If you break the first link, you break the wheel. You get out of the wheel.

But it's interesting, in Sugeng's very deep presentation of the wheel, it's not the longest subject. It's not the one. Then we went to the second link, which is what's the picture, Sugeng?

The making of the potter? Yeah, it's a potter making...

[Speaker 3]
The karma.

[Speaker 1]
Karma, when you yell back at the person who criticized you. Because you don't understand that the criticism is coming from you. You respond negatively and you create karma.

So this is called sanskara, or the creation of karma. And it's represented by somebody making pots. The potter is making pots.

We're about to transition out of that topic. Sugeng's been working for a couple of years on this book. I think in this class, we're going to transition out of that topic to...

Here's the third link, which is a monkey entering a new life. This is consciousness. The link is called consciousness.

And it is the mind entering the next life. It's the monkey. Then you get a body and mind in the next life, which is represented by two guys in a boat.

And one is body and one is mind. And they're traveling into the new life. But first the monkey has to enter the womb of the mother.

First the monkey has to enter. Now, another dire question. Everybody got interested suddenly.

Usually the first link about not understanding what's going on with someone who criticizes you, usually the first link is 50% of a classical book on the 12 links. Usually. But in this book, I just told you it's only the second longest topic.

The third link in Master Vasubandhu's secret presentation of the 12 links is by far the longest. Why? $100.

[Speaker 3]
Because Mind-Only School has a big emphasis on the eight consciousness.

[Speaker 1]
Whoa, nice. $100 for spending. Damn.

You got $200 today. You're taking me out to dinner. Yeah.

Because of the special ideas of the Mind-Only School about storehouse consciousness, where do your karmic seeds stay? How do they stay there? What are they?

Are they energy? Are they physical? Are they mental?

Where are they? What are they? How do they stay there?

How do they open? Why do you get sudden interruptions in your life? Now, these are...

It's very... If you know the literature, it's extremely interesting that the third link is going to be longer than the first link. Something about how your mind moves on is more intriguing to one of the greatest two Mind-Only thinkers of history than ignorance itself, than misunderstanding emptiness itself.

Here's some technical information and then we'll switch over to Siddig. I like to give a progress report at the beginning of a term. We're not going to have terms much anymore.

So, here we go. Yeah, we actually published Siddig's first book. Two volumes, I think.

One volume. And his first book is ready. It's been...

We printed one paper copy for a very special sponsor. It's about to go out to you. And we've reached folio 15A.

Whenever you see a folio number, it means an ancient woodblock carved handmade paper print like that. And it's long. It's got a lot of words on it.

And this is coming from the canon. So, it's going to be 35% longer. Because it's non-eyeglass general time.

Right? We've completed Misunderstandings. And we're about to start Consciousness, which is the largest of the links.

Why is that? We completed a biography of our main author, Vasubandhu. And that's going to be a great contribution to this book.

We don't have many accounts of the life story of Vasubandhu. And there's a very wonderful Tibetan history book of the great masters of history. And it's a 2,000-page history book.

And we were able to input it. And then we chopped out Vasubandhu's life story. And we finished it.

We went through that already. So, this entire work is 53,000 words. And the whole thing is going to be about 800 pages long.

And I think we should split it into two volumes. We can finish one volume next year, if we work hard. And again, this is a unique book in this lineage, because there are no explanations.

There are no histories. And the Sanskrit is missing. And the translator of the original was something.

It could have been marijuana. I don't know. But he's on a different level.

His translation is on a different level. And it's very intriguing and very difficult to read. Okay.

We're still looking for a Sanskrit original. We haven't found it already. We have, I think, the best team in the world for finding Sanskrit originals.

We have scholars all over the world helping. And Aisha, who is also the queen of the Green Stretch Pen Project, she's looking for these books. And we haven't found it yet.

Okay. The structure is very simple. It's going to follow the 12 weeks, okay?

And let's start. How do I get rid of this? Which one?

That one. Which one? I mean, just minus.

I don't want to see your handsome face. Okay, here we go. You want to...

No, it's okay. You okay? No, I'm okay.

Can you guys see? Yeah, yeah, they can see me. Okay.

Okay, handsome. Okay. Okay, good.

Nyomo? Negative. Mental friction?

Yeah, we can say negative emotion. And when you add a pa on it, it changes it. Somebody with negative thoughts?

Yeah, anything to do with negativity, okay? Anything to do with negativity. Cancer is a nyomompa.

It's created by negativity towards other people. But it's not mental. It's physical.

So, nyomompa means negative thought-ish. And nyomom means negative thought, okay? And it's an important distinction.

All the messed up stuff in the world, okay? Becomes from the kyen of mariko. The condition of the misunderstanding.

Yeah, and it's triggered by that. The word trigger is extremely important in his book. Why?

You've got a chain reaction. You've got a chain reaction of 12 links. And you're constantly going to see the word trigger.

This happens. And then you get pain in your life, okay? You misunderstand the person who's criticizing you.

And you end up having to take rebirth, okay? All right. But he says, I'm not just interested in the negative thoughts.

I'm also interested in the sempak, which is linked to those negative thoughts. What's that? The mind.

The mind? It's not semp. It's sempak.

Mental state? Yeah. No.

That's okay. Of the mind. You're both my fourth child.

Yeah. It means movement of the mind. So sem, chitta, means mind.

Like bodhicitta means bodhisattva mind, right? But chitta, which means derived from chitta, okay? In Sanskrit, when you want to say derived from, you change the vowel.

From i to i. So chitta changes to chitta. And chitta means mental derivative, okay?

Some kind of mental derivative. Here, sempam is defined as any movement of the mind. Any time, any shift within a human mind is the definition of $100 karma.

Yeah, the definition of karma is sempak, okay? It's the movement. Any time your mind shifts, that's raw karma.

And then there's two derivative karmas. What you do and what you say, okay? But the pure karma is any time your mind moves, okay?

So here he's saying he's interested in all negative states of mind are triggered by misunderstanding. But by the way, any time you misunderstand, your mind moves. And therefore it becomes karma, okay?

So then that's a beautiful description of the relationship between the first two links of the wheel, okay? Any time you misunderstand something, your mind hasn't necessarily moved. And then immediately, you commit a karma.

Just thinking to yell back at the person who criticized you is karma, okay? Raw karma. Okay.

Why don't you read one more and then you can pick on other people. It's boring to hear him read because he's perfect. Good.

Now it's interesting. He skips from karma as created by a movement of the mind. He immediately skips to sunam.

What's that? He says, but it also creates good karma. Why?

Yeah, misunderstanding. Good karma. And then you have to discuss the difference between dirty good karma and clean good karma.

What's dirty good karma roughly? Yeah, it will run out. Dirty good karma means it was an act of kindness, but it was ignorant, okay?

It was an act of kindness, but it was not well considered. So just as a reflex or because the person is your child, you are kind to them, okay? But there's no understanding that they are coming for you, okay?

If you do good without understanding actively that the thing is coming for you, that karma is what we call dirty good karma, and it will wear out, okay? It's dirty because it will wear out, and then you'll be back to zero. sunam gyi duje duje here means sanskara, sanskara, karmas, raw karmas.

duje nang gyi khyen yang yon te sipa dang mong chok thadepa ngumar drupa It creates the world and everything in it that you use. mong chok means the things in the world that you use. thadepa ngumar drupa jesu tumba It creates the things in your life.

gun ne jungwa It spits out everything. gun jung gun jung, the source. Yeah, that's the second of the four years.

There's suffering and there's a source of suffering. It's called gun jung. de dak dang chen chik chui marikpani Misunderstanding the people and things around you, in general, is a chi gye chi gye, it's a condition, general condition.

Yeah, general condition of everything. Bad and good. That's what he's trying to say.

Bad and good. Temporary good. Bleeding good.

Being handsome and getting bald. She's a reader. Jack?

You want to read? He can sit here. Go slow, go right.

Jung wae Ma Jung wae Jung wae Jung wae Marikpani Chi Chi Ken Yin No Okay, stay here, because you want to do one more. Ah, so I think if we're doing it that way, at the same, that is interesting. We had deeper, we had center.

And we had cinema. We had good karmas, and negative karmas. But now he introduces a third one meal.

I'm shifting on shifting because it creates himself in the former when the former formless realm so there are higher realms of suffering, inhabited by Marvel super characters. As they have to die. They're, they're beautiful, and they're strong, and they're handsome, but they have to die.

So we call it a meal, which is so okay, you said that good karma was created by misunderstanding. And then you said bad karma was created by misunderstanding. But what about that super good karma, which creates sort of like a temporary, idyllic, idyllic, black life.

And, and he says, Yeah, my request also to can also be a general condition. Yeah. The general condition of even highest happiness in the world, like you become the richest person in the world, listen, still, you're a victim of your misunderstanding, and it will wear out.

All rich people get old and die. I've seen it. And it's, it's more miserable than being poor and die.

Because they thought they were something to say, or they thought it was going to last. And they go through intense suffering. I've seen it with very wealthy diamond dealers.

Okay, so he says, still, it's the same old misunderstanding that's triggering, even very powerful people's positions and things like that. Okay. And we're gonna have a Jack's gonna read this.

By the way, in in scripture, in classical scripture. Sometimes they say, let's take a break, which is very appreciated. Like you get a hard idea, hard idea, hard idea, idea.

And then the let me tell you a little poetry. You know, and you're like, it's like a philosophical rest. He threw a few in here.

Okay, Jack gonna read it. Don't forget. The first line is, it says, Hey, you guys want some poetry to take a break.

And then he starts the poetry. I want to hear Okay.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 3]
Great. 10. Young moon.

[Speaker 1]
Young moon. She can as a second point, we can nice, nice. Let's take those dance topics.

Okay. And let's turn them into a sick chick, or shloka. Let's make a little verse.

Let's take a poetry break and make a verse about the ideas we just had. Who's talking? I'm also not the best.

I kind of strained your brains. Let's let's summarize it all in a little poem. And do you change what's due to first karma?

Yeah, sense got a fresh sense. God, why did he say this? And we are the second thing that's implying there's a older.

So all karma in the wheel. There's two. Number two, and number 10.

Let's say you have a separate eight. Sorry, 1010. So you can compare it to a seed that you just planted in the garden.

And then the seed just before it cracks open. Okay. So we're talking about DJ, monkey, can you do?

What? What's the trigger for fresh karma? What triggers fresh karma?

My, my, my, okay, the trigger for fresh karma, which is not understanding where the person who criticized you comes from. Okay, the trigger for fresh karma, you can say it's number me. Number two, two different companies on fresh karma is comes in two different levels.

Okay, that's what his verse says so far. Hey, fresh karma comes in two different flavors. Okay, hmm.

Two conditions. Well, I know, I would say that misunderstanding comes in two places. misunderstanding which triggers fresh karma comes in two levels.

Okay, there's one which is new mode. Shenden chicken. There's negative.

There's misunderstanding which involves negativity. You're angry, or you want something or something like that. And then there's another kind of misunderstanding, which is your moment, not involving negativity.

Yeah, it doesn't involve anger or desire. It might even involve charity, or kindness or something. And then so it can means there's two different kinds.

There's two different kinds. Why did he say that? They're both bad.

Oh, they're both doing kindness without understanding. Oh, yes. It's just creates temporary happiness, and then much more intense suffering after that.

Being kind for the wrong reasons is is another kind of unkindness. That's very deep. Okay.

[Speaker 3]
Unkindness to ourself.

[Speaker 1]
That's a good point. All right, I think you should pick on Jackson. sitting here.

[Speaker 2]
Nice.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, that means the branch. Yeah, the 12 links. The 12 links, okay.

Yeah, 12 links. What's the Sanskrit in English? Anga, like Anganga.

It's the, it means part or section. Gang here means namdang, which means the different words for the same thing. Okay, synonyms.

What's the most famous use of namdang in Buddhist literature? For 2,500 years. Chökyi nym nam yi ding yin dzin la nyam bo shing so yang de se chak yin yong do sum yin chenpo pa chok yin yong yin.

Very good. Arts and arts. Arts and arts.

In that case, namdang means the Buddha went into a certain variety of meditation. Here it means, look, there's lots of different terms that we use for each of the 12 links, okay. And you should try to figure them out, okay?

We're going to be using lots of different words for the links, for the 12 links. And if you can learn them, din dan ni yang drowa ja. This drowa doesn't mean the same as the dro in droma.

Tara, it does not mean freedom. Okay, it does not mean freedom. Tara itself means freedom, right?

The transcription comes from that. All right, din dan ni yang drowa ja. You will be able to unravel the deeper meanings in the wheel if you learn the synonyms for the different links.

If you learn the different flavors of each of the different links, you'll be able to unravel the wheel and the meaning of the wheel. So drowa here doesn't mean liberate, it means unravel. But the root meaning of the word liberation in Tibetan is to unravel a knot, to untie a knot.

So namdo lakta, liberation in the palm of your hand. Unraveling in the palm of your hand. All right, I think we get a new victim.

Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Jack.

Thank you for helping so much in my house. Is Rebecca around? Rebecca.

Uh-oh. Is Rebecca around? Okay.

No? Okay, then how about Rosedius? They'll pretend that that's my profession.

Yeah. I will try. Okay, you do the cursive.

[Speaker 2]
Debtor, soul, wall, king, da, pa, ta, kam. Could you turn on? Ka, ka-si.

[Speaker 1]
Ka-chi.

[Speaker 2]
Ka-ka. No, turn on because I cannot hear if they correct me.

[Speaker 1]
Si-ti. Ka-tu. Tu.

Tu. Yet, nam, ki, ken.

[Speaker 2]
Du-che-nam.

[Speaker 1]
Again. Du-che-nam.

[Speaker 2]
Du-che-nam. Don't know about ki. Nyon, mon, pa, san, ki.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, du-che-nam, ki, ken, nyon-mon, pa. San-yan. Chen-yang.

[Speaker 2]
Chen-yang. Yin, shin, du, si, yir, ma, ri, pa.

[Speaker 1]
Chi, chir, ma, ri, pa.

[Speaker 2]
Ko, na, ki, yin, wa, par, tan. Ka, te.

[Speaker 3]
Gel, te.

[Speaker 2]
Gel, te. De, tak, yi, kien, yan, ma, ri, pa. Yin, pa.

[Speaker 1]
Yin, pe, chir. Yin, pe, chir, and then? We lost.

Yeah. You read. Yan, lak, lak, par, ji, tar, hel, war, ming, gyur, she.

Gel, wan, di, lak, mi, tu, pa, yin, no. Nice, okay. De, tak, so, wa, kien, so, wa, kien means what?

The condition, the general condition. Yeah, the main one.

[Speaker 2]
The main condition.

[Speaker 1]
Like Lam Tsong-Ramsayn with the three principles. Three principles. So it's all in these principles.

And Vasubandhu, by the way, read the next line in the Tibetan at the bottom of the screen. Okay. Du, che, kyi, nam, pa, re, ye, wa, sok, so.

Yeah, and then it goes on to lingering. Wow. So that's a big deal in Sugeng's life.

Because he only gets to do this 12 times. We're going to move on to another link, okay? And that's going to be the link of consciousness, the monkey.

And that's going to be a big one because we're in the mind only school, okay? They're very interested about consciousness. So here, the sentence at the bottom, du, che, kyi, nam, pa, re, ye, wa, sok, so means, nam, pa, re, ye, wa, usually means divisions, but here it's singular.

Division, one division. The division of. Fresh karma.

Yeah, fresh karma, division number two, link number two. Zok, so. Zok, so.

I've finished. That's it, I've finished. I've just finished the second link, okay?

Now, there's a few random comments just before the end of the second link, okay? And that's this upper sentence. So what can done with them?

I'm trying to get you guys to appreciate that when we talk about a link, we're talking about the so what can, the main condition. There's hundreds of other conditions that create that karma. You know, there's hundreds of other elements here.

For example, Simba, any movement of the mind. But that's not the main thing about suffering. He says, look, I understand there's lots of other factors that we see, fresh karma, but they are not soul.

They're not the main trigger. I've been trying to focus on the main trigger. Kachik's, kachik are other.

People come up and say, they say this kind of stuff. Ah, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. There's lots of negative states of mind that can trigger fresh karma.

Why didn't David could be a link? It's a fair question, right? It wasn't just misunderstanding.

There's anger, there's desire, there's jealousy. There's the six big negativities. Shenyang yin, ching ching marigold kona kin.

Why only marigold kin? Why is misunderstanding the only one mentioned as a trigger of fresh karma? Shall we change, I mean, translate kin into trigger?

I like it. I mean, I'm tempted to go there. Rather than condition.

Yeah, I'm tempted to go there. In a discussion of the wheel, yeah. Kelte danak kyan yang marig mayim bichir.

And also, other stuff is triggered by misunderstanding. You know, why not David to be link number twos? Why don't you have more link number ones?

Because they trigger fresh karma. And then there's lots of kinds of things that are fresh karma. So they're triggered also by misunderstanding.

Why don't you have more than one fresh karma? Why don't you have a bunch of link number ones? And why don't you have a link number twos?

And he says, telwar gyur means why wouldn't it have to be? Don't telgur, right? And why wouldn't it have to be?

And he says, lakmi tupa. Lakmi tupa means you can keep yelling like that. I'm going on to the next thing.

Lakmi tupa means, lakmi tupa means dirty. It ain't going to touch me. I'm going on.

I kept telling you, tol, tol, tol. Main, main, main, main, main. I'm not saying all fresh karma only comes from one thing.

And I'm not saying misunderstanding only triggers one thing, fresh karma. Of course, there's many other things on the trigger side and there's many other things on the triggered side, but I told you, tol, I told you I'm talking main, main. So all this blah, blah, lakmi tupa means don't touch me.

And I'm going on. I'm going on to next link, link three, link consciousness. And specifically consciousness is an interesting one, okay?

In a circle of pain. So it's a big deal. You should throw a party.

Maybe Inky and those guys can make him a special dessert. We've reached link three. And don't forget that Vasi Bondar's strange book, strange beautiful book is a commentary on one of the earliest sutras of all.

So Buddha taught a one or two page sutra about the 12 links. And it's called the Sutra of the Wheel of Life. And it's tiny, it's only two pages.

But Vasi Bondar is using that for the structure of his discussion of the 12 links, okay? So once in a while, he'll drop back to the original sutra and we inserted it. We went and found it and we inserted it into the commentary at the appropriate place, okay?

Then that's something that the mixed nuts do. So who's going to read this line? I invite Mr. Hegel. Yay. Good meditation yesterday. Thank you.

Duce K'ien Gi Namparshepa Shewa Sejawe Namparshepa Kangshena. Good. Kangshena.

Don't forget that the original sutra, two page sutra of the Wheel of the 12 Links was a discussion between Lord Buddha and his students, okay? As many sutras are, it was a discussion. They were throwing questions and he was answering.

So Duce K'ien means what? Your trigger of your sex karma. Yeah, when link number two acts as a trigger.

Acts as a trigger. And it triggers Namparshepa. Their consciousness.

Then what is that Namparshepa? And what is that consciousness? Yeah, who's asking the question?

The students, the monks. Yeah, the monks are asking Lord Buddha. If link number two, which is what?

[Speaker 3]
Go, go, go, go, go.

[Speaker 1]
Fresh karma. If fresh karma triggers consciousness, can you explain what consciousness is in this case? I mean, consciousness can mean a million things in Buddhism.

So can you explain just what kind of consciousness you're talking about when you say, it got triggered by number two? And it is link number three, okay? So, okay, link three gets triggered by link two.

Consciousness gets triggered by fresh karma. What kind of consciousness are you talking about? And then Lord Buddha answers, Kagri.

Namparshepa. Shepi. Shepi.

Shepi. Sojukte. Miki.

Miki. Miki. Nampar.

Shepa. Shepa. Dang.

Nawa. Dang. Nga.

Dang. Che. Dang.

Lu. Dang. Miki.

Nampar. Shepa. Oh.

So consciousness, there are a collection of six times. Which are? And the vision.

Yeah, consciousness of the vision, consciousness of the hearing, consciousness of the smell, consciousness of the tongue, on the face, and then consciousness of the feeling, and also consciousness of the mind. Consciousness of your own thoughts. Of thoughts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Namparshepa Sojukte. Now, big, big question.

I'm excited. This Namparshepa Sojukte, the collection of six consciousnesses that all beings have. Okay, Stanley's ready.

For $0. He's like, wow. This has got to be a Bodhisattva answer.

Not motivated by money. For $0, why is this answer by Lord Buddha to his students gonna cause trouble for these two brothers? Because they have two more.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In their school. In their new, freshly-minted, mind-only school, there's eight consciousnesses, okay?

And now I'll give $50 for each of the other two, but not Stanley. Who's got words getting faster and faster? I think it's from running away from your daughters.

Ah, yeah. What does that mean, Lord? Kunshi literally means the place where everything is kept or where you're conscious of everything, meaning something of the nature of where all our seeds are kept and where they are perceived.

And then nyoni means the thing that generates all our nyomon, all our negative, messed-up states of mind. Yeah, good. So the mind-only school says there's an eighth consciousness, which is where all your carving seeds are stored, roughly.

And then there's a seventh consciousness, which misunderstands the eighth consciousness and takes it to be a self-independent unit. So, okay, here you've got Lord Buddha answering his own students that there's only six kinds of consciousness. And then you are Vasubandhu.

With you and your half-brother, you invented the mind-only school for the next 2,000 years. And you're gonna have kind of a long explanation of why Lord Buddha left out those two, okay? And that's really the real reason why this third link got too long in his book, in my opinion.

But let's prove it. Okay, here we go. Who's reading next?

Yeah, Mr. Haggerty. Where are you? This one, right?

Shall we? Yeah, okay. Tenching, Drowar, Drogbar, Chunwa, Dampadang, Nampar, Chewa, Yewa, Sheba, Bampo, Nipa?

Yeah, I added the parentheses yesterday. Oh. Why did I put parentheses there?

Oh, this is the title? It's a word count. Oh.

So when we first started inputting the scriptures, and we have input 3 million pages now in 35 years, when we first started inputting, we would take a byte count. There's about eight bytes in a letter. So we would specify the byte count of the whole file.

If we input this sutra, we would have a byte count attached to the catalogue. Why? If you add a single letter, the byte count will change by eight bits.

You know, so it's a wonderful way of quality control for the future, because mark my words, it will happen. There's some creepy people will want to remove every mention of Sugeng in all of our books, and they will put a bug, they'll send a bug out, a bug, out to remove Sugeng's name from all the mixed-notes book. And then some smart person's gonna say, yes, S-U-G, S-U-G-E-N-G, six, there's 56 bits missing from the file.

And then some other smart person will say, oh, that's Sugeng's name, let's put it back. You see what I mean? It's a great quality control.

Now, in the ancient days, you didn't have that. So instead of bytes, they had bambo. And bambo is an artificial division like a number of syllables in Sanskrit, and it means nothing in Tibetan translation, but they put it in anyway, okay?

So bambo or nipa means we're starting the second group of, of 100 Sanskrit syllables, okay? Of what? Of the book.

And then he mentions this title of our book, which is worth saying again, because you forgot the title of the book. The title of Sugeng's new book is Tenzin Jawa Chungwa Dambodang Nambayog. The First Principle of the Dependence.

Dambodang Nambayog. And also the divisions. Yeah, the name of the original sutra is the First Principle and the Divisions of Dependent Origination, okay?

So divisions is easy. That's 12. What does he mean by first principle?

Be joyous, be joyous. If this occurs, that occurs. If this is here, that is.

Yeah, yeah. So that when Buddha taught this sutra, he went like this. If this happens, then it happens.

And if this happens, this can happen. Got it? And he said, no.

And he said, well, 12 parts. And then he kept going, okay? So that's called the first principle.

He said, and it's very, very, very profound, okay? If this happens, this is gonna happen. You have to know that.

If you don't understand the people who criticize you, then you're gonna get more people criticizing you. If this happens, this is gonna happen, okay? And that's dependent origination in a nutshell.

The name of the book is The First Principle of Dependence, and Then the Detail, 12 Detail. Yay! And it's a word, it's a by-count check.

When you reach this sentence, there should be so many syllables in the Sanskrit up to here, and we don't have this here. Good luck. Okay, who's reading next?

Yeah. Okay, Lindsey?

[Speaker 3]
Those wind rockers are alive. Yay!

[Speaker 1]
You're in the bar though. You're called VOC. The donors are hiring, but the wind rockers, they're in the quiz, so you guys ain't gonna win.

Okay.

[Speaker 2]
What's the difference between the, with the S-H and with the Z-H?

[Speaker 1]
What's the difference between the- Yeah, how do you pronounce it? S-H and Z-H. Oh.

Oh, it's she, she. She.

[Speaker 3]
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1]
And then it's just she. Low. Yeah, low tone, low tone, and high tone.

They're both she. There's no quality, there's no difference in the quality of the sound. Okay.

She and she. Like one is high and one is low, yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, I'll try. A du-che.

[Speaker 1]
Du-che.

[Speaker 2]
Du-che. Du-che. Key.

Ken. Key. Key.

Key. Nam. Nam.

War.

[Speaker 1]
Nampar.

[Speaker 2]
Par. She. Par.

She. War.

[Speaker 1]
She. Ja.

[Speaker 2]
Ja. She.

[Speaker 1]
We.

[Speaker 2]
We. Nampar. She.

Gang. Tong. Tong.

She.

[Speaker 3]
She. She.

[Speaker 1]
Cool. I'll stay, read some more if we have time. What's du-che, key, ken mean?

The trig, so the second link is triggering. That's triggering. Yeah, fresh karma, add that trigger, and then you go for the next trigger, which is for the next link, which is nampar she-pa, is the consciousness.

When you say that fresh karma triggers consciousness, what's the number? What is that consciousness? Yeah, what is that consciousness?

How do you describe the consciousness? And then I put a note here. I read this book many years ago.

I did a translation in a conference about, and basically Vassapan is gonna give you four different choices about what that consciousness is. So let's just go straight to his commentary. And what do you think it means?

[Speaker 2]
NAM PAR SHEN PASOK NI DRUG PAS CHE JA CHENG HA WA AD NDIN GRA DRA JI SHIN YI KHI DONG KHI SU GANG YIN PHANG YIN PHAE DONG SHEN NA PHANG MI RIN SHI PHAK NAM PAR SKYE NGE PHAK PHANG SKYE PHAG SKYE BAR SHOK BAR SHI PHAG SHI CHENG CHENG CHENG NA SHUK KHI CHI GONG CHENG DONG DE KO NA NI LEG PAR LEG PAR KONG DU CHU PAR YIR YIR, YIR, YIR, YIR Very nice, very nice, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
When we say number, Shepard Soktu, when we say the Sixth Collection of the Consciousness. Now, I'll ask you guys, in Buddhism, there's a very famous principle of when the Buddha meant his or her words to be taken literally, and when the Buddha or her, he or him or her, meant the words to be not taken literally, and you were supposed to interpret them, okay? Okay, is when we say there's, when the Buddha answers his students two and a half thousand years ago, that there are six kinds of consciousness, was it literal or was it figurative?

Did he mean it or did he not mean it? Literally, to be taken literally. Who's the author?

Oh, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see. No, no, no, he didn't mean it. Okay, he or her students didn't.

I agree he said that, but come on, he didn't mean it. He's just trying to make it easy for those guys. So here we go.

That's called anticipatory translation. Once you see the word nedun or shukhidun, once you see implied or direct in a sentence, you know where he's going, and then you just kind of have to piece it together, okay? It's called anticipatory translation.

In fact, you could have predicted this sentence before you got to it. And the fact that the explanation of the third link is so long, you certainly should have predicted that Vasubandhu was going to defend himself against Buddha. Okay, give me a minute, brother.

Okay, got it? Let's go, prove it with the words, okay? Yeah, let's finish it.

I'll do the sentence first. Namo Shepa Tsogme Drukte. When Buddha answers that there are six kinds of consciousness, dradja shing gi dung yi tsok kyang mi dung shen na, if you take that to be literal, if you take, dradja shing means literal, according to the words, okay?

Okay, yeah, na re shi nampa ngepa. You could take it that way, to start with, dot, dot, dot. Okay, nampa ngepa means, you know, when you're just starting out your discussion of consciousness, you could start with six, that's okay, but, okay, ngepa shen na.

But if you want to teach this topic in detail, what topic, consciousness? Consciousness. Shuk gi means implied, in the Buddhist meaning.

Chi means later on, gompa. You better understand that Buddha had something deeper in mind, okay, gompa. Te kona ni lepa konda chupa gyurl.

And if you, and you gotta get it, chupa means you gotta grasp that, you gotta understand that, okay? Yeah, okay, you can take it, literally, you could take it on face value, this sutra, you can take it on face value, but if you go deeper, there's no way you're gonna get out of my two extra kata, okay? All right, got it?

Okay, yay, thank you, Minzi, thank you so much, yeah. Thank you, Vasubandhu, and can you translate the next three sentences for me? Okay, thank you.

And Nida, homework? Yes, I want. Okay, Uncle Nick, are you still awake?

I don't know, he's in Portugal.

[Speaker 3]
Geshe Michael, thank you so much.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you, translators, thank you, tech team, and especially all the foreign language interpreters for giving live translations tonight. Geshe-la, thank you very much. Hey, Ward, do you have class tonight?

[Speaker 1]
I certainly do, right now. Of course you do. Okay, so stay tuned.

Do they get a break?

[Speaker 2]
Do they get up out of their chair for a moment?

[Speaker 1]
They get a 90-second break.

[Speaker 2]
A second break. Okay, yeah, thank you, boss. Such an honor, great night.

We had a lot of people well over the 600s. Just delightful to get to spend time with everybody. I'm so excited to see how many people are excited about learning so much at such an extraordinary pace.

[Speaker 1]
Thanks, boss. Thank you, Sugeng. Thank you, Stanley.

Thanks, everybody, thanks, interpreters. Thank you, Ward, for teaching tonight in advance of your teaching tonight. Thank you, thank you.

[Speaker 3]
Thank you, thank you. So we're gonna get started right away.