Сугэн Ши — Книга 2: Колесо жизни (первый принцип и подразделения зависимости), занятие 48

[Speaker 1]
In general, Geshe Michael has given the hymn just now. Body, Speech, and Mind? I don't know.

Not that one, yeah. Not? Not that type, yeah.

The other category. Gewa Mi Gewa and Yowa? Yes.

In English, please. No, it's not Gewa Mi Gewa. It's not.

Oh yeah, it's not Gewa Mi Gewa. The other one, yeah. Oh, it's not Gewa Mi Gewa?

Yeah. Word, you have to pay a $100 fine for giving the wrong answer. Well, it's Mi Gewa, which is unshaken or unshifting.

Okay, $67 fine. So what is it? Mi Sunam?

What is it? How do you say it? Sunam Mayim.

Sunam Mayim. Yeah. Yeah, this is a bit, what do you call that?

Yeah, a bit confusing. You said it was easy. What is that, Rob?

You said it was easy. Well, I mean, the questions are easy. The answers are confusing.

I'm sorry. Do you want an easy answer or do you want an easy answer? When I ask my friends, you know, do you want an easy question or do you want an easy answer?

Go ahead. Okay, I'm sorry. What is the real physical first karma, if not exhales and the inhales?

[Speaker 2]
Did you harm somebody with your body? Was it your heart or not somebody?

[Speaker 1]
Not really. Not really. Not really.

This is, I would say this is an interesting point that Master Vasubandhu mentioned in the book. Isn't it any action you take that makes good or bad karma or something? No, not really.

That's why I said this is a very special statement by Master Vasubandhu and I hope I captured it correctly. So he's saying the actual, the real physical first karma is actually the movement of the mind.

[Speaker 2]
Right.

[Speaker 1]
I hope I captured correctly. Yeah. Rob, you heard that also, right?

[Speaker 3]
That's exactly what I was going to say.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Sorry for not giving you the chance.

[Speaker 3]
No, no, no, no. I didn't. I just agreed.

[Speaker 1]
All right. Okay. The next, the last one.

What is the real cause of physical karma that will bring us to be born in the appropriately fitting world? The real, the real physical, the real cause of physical karma. Not movement of the mind?

Nupa, nupa. The ability? Nupa, the ability?

The other, did I say correctly?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, nupa, to hurt people.

[Speaker 1]
Yes, yes. That's the one, Oscar. Oh, this is the other answer again.

Sorry. This is the other answer again. It depends on how much you commit physical karma involving harming others.

Yeah. Okay. Lots of, lots of traps in here.

I just realized. I'm sorry. Okay.

Do Java, do Java for Tibetan, Tibetan words. Composer? Produce, thing producer?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. That's right.

That's right. Geshe-la was saying about the, I'll say it later. Okay.

So freshly created. Yeah. How about ngun pan jut, ngun pan du che?

Evident? What's that word? Something that, which is evident, a composed thing, which is obvious or evident.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. So just to review, Geshe-la mentioned that this is like the action. This is like the, the object.

This is the, the action. This is the object. Yeah.

Yeah. So Java and ngun pan du che, yeah. Chien chien.

Something that has a cause. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

That's right. It's the ancient synonym of result, drebu. Nice.

All right. Thank you. Thank you very much all for taking part.

Geshe-la, this is the attempted translation. So let me read first. Rigpe jitabushena.

Yeah, what are we proving? I forgot. We are proving.

Oh, about excellenica. I think it was that... Yeah, how you can get born in...

Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right.

[Speaker 3]
Oh yeah, the nupad thing, right?

[Speaker 1]
Buddha said there's three different results, right? If you can get born in different places. And now let's prove that same idea with logic rather than scripture.

Oh yes, that's right. That's right. Yeah.

Logic. Yeah, logical proof. Okay.

Where is your... This one. Where are you?

I lost you. Okay, here we go. Do you want to read?

You're reading, so might as well choose somebody else. Okay. Okay, from Canada.

Dinara Mendecheva. Hi, thank you. Nice.

Yes, Mas Mingyu Ro. Dinara, you got a big seat for that. Thank you.

Nice translation, Sugeng. If the result of misunderstanding is the exhaling and inhaling, then the Narhat would never breathe. Good.

So, what's triggered by the first link? The fresh karma. Which is fresh karma, right.

And when we were asked, please name the three kinds of fresh karma, we said body, speech, and mind. And then we said, please name bodily karma or action. And he said, breathing.

Okay? And then we're coming back with, well, if breathing is the second link, right, and if our hearts destroy the wheel of life, by jung dok, right? By, they stop one, they stop two, they stop two, they stop three, they stop three, they stop four, right?

That's called reversing the wheel of life. It's not twelve, eleven, ten, nine. It's not like that.

How do you reverse the wheel of life? Stop two to stop one. Sorry, stop one to stop two, stop two to stop three, like that.

So, if the second link of the wheel of life is breathing, then Narhats don't breathe. Because they stop the first link. Yes.

Thank you. And by the way, he didn't say ser na, because this is so old. This book is so old.

And it's before that tradition of saying ser na for a statement by the other guy. So you're just going to have to figure it out. Who would say it's a good thing except the other guy?

Yeah, gyel te also can be a hymn, right? Gyel te, gyel te. Yeah, you can say gyel te kind of means ser na.

You can say that, yeah. All right, who's going to read the second one?

[Speaker 3]
Australia.

[Speaker 1]
Australia. But they have to talk with this kind of accent. From Canberra, is that, Jackie?

Yes. Kangaroo? Oh, I see.

Gyel te. Young. Day.

Yen. Yen key. Yen key.

Young. Nice. Sheep.

Yes. What is it? Sheep.

Sheep. Sheep. Nice.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Dra.

Dra. Dra. Yeah.

Chum. Chum. Yes.

Chum. Chum. Yes.

Ha. Nice. Yang.

Great. Yo. Yo.

Ha. Nice. Bur.

Bur. Bur. Bur.

Hang. Next row. Yeah.

Thank you. Nice. Nice.

OK. Ah. So listen.

If the second link is action and it's divided into body, speech, and mind and your example for body action was breathing, then our heart must not breathe because they don't have the first link. OK? And then you say, no, no, no.

They breathe. they breathe. Oh, they breathe?

Yeah, they breathe. Okay, then they must have the third link. Why?

Because they have the second link. Okay. Got it, Siyeng?

Yes. Okay. It's cool.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Oh, then they must have the third link. What is the third link?

What's that monkey represent? The mind entering the next life. The mind entering the next life.

Oh, so I guess in our heart's mind enters the next samsaric life, right? Why do you say that? Because they got link number two.

What do you think is link number two? Breathing. You said breathing.

Breathing. Got it? Yes.

That's what it says. Okay. So let's see.

If we say the last understanding is a condition for the mind of the being in the next birth, or I would say entering the next birth, okay? Entering. Then an arhat would also have to be entering the next birth.

And then they wouldn't be an arhat. All right. That's the other guy.

Okay, thank you. Next one. Let's invite Lisa.

Lisa Li. Lisa Li. Oh my gosh.

Okay. She can read anything. Well, thank you, Krishna.

Thanks, Suken. I will try. Nice.

Yes, cool. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Good. Yes.

Cool. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes, thank you. Thank you.

Okay, rei shik is a different... it's a tough beginning, okay? Rei shik means, you know, conditionally, actually.

Rei shik means when you start a sentence, it means conditionally, okay? In certain circumstances, rei shik. It means sometimes, okay?

Just conditionally, you know, if we don't just... talking... I'm not being very specific, okay?

Just kind of in general, okay? Rei shik means for the time being. We can agree.

Lula sope len nam. If you have... if you're capable of bodily karma, if you have a body to make karma with, okay?

So look, we can say that if you have a body to make karma with, you have that body to make karma with because of the kyen of maripa. Because of the result of the misunderstanding? Yeah, it was triggered by misunderstanding, yeah.

By that kyen, okay? So look, in answer to your question about arhats, do they have a consciousness entering the next life just because they do things with their body? For example, breathing, okay?

So therefore, according to you, they have bodily karma. So according to you, they have link number two. So according to you, they must have link number three.

So according to you, they must be entering a new birth in samsara, and they're not really arhats, okay? All right. Look, they do have bodies, and those bodies were created by what?

Who created an arhat's body until the day they die in this system? Yeah, oh, did I miss anything previously? The what?

Sorry? Yeah. Bhaktshe.

Nirvana was remade. They still got their body. They didn't die yet.

Who made that body? Yeah, link number two. You know, yeah, I mean, we can, if that's what you're saying, we don't have a problem with that.

Rishi? Okay, yeah, no problem. Okay, do they have a body?

Yeah. Did they have karma? Yeah.

Was that created by misunderstanding? Yeah. Do they still have misunderstanding?

Ah, now that's a different question. Got it? And there's a famous defense of this idea in the commentary to the Abhidharma, where it says that many, a certain arhat died in a house of prostitution and at the bar.

Okay, because he had the body from before. Okay, so I can find it for you, Ellie. Don't look at me like that.

I'll show it to you. It's by a very respectable person. Okay, yeah, so anyway, if you're asking me, is there a body with which they make karma of the body, if that was created by misunderstanding?

Yeah, I agree. And I'm not saying that drachombas may. They don't have them.

Double negative, double negative here. Get it right, Sugeng. I know you can do it.

It doesn't mean that they don't have them. Yeah, I never said they didn't have a body. They do have a body, but that doesn't mean they have the second link.

Okay, do they do things? Yes. Do they have fresh karma?

No, I didn't say that. They do things. Is their body created by misunderstanding?

Yeah, of course, but that doesn't mean they're misunderstanding now. Okay, got it? So I never said they didn't have a body, and I never said that body wasn't created by misunderstanding, but not now, okay?

It's not being created again. All right, just because they have a body doesn't mean they're committing the second link, which creates a mind to go into the next body. I didn't say that.

Okay, all right. Thank you. Yeah, all right, next one.

Let's try Liang Cui Ling. Wait, wait, wait, wait, Sugeng. Oh, yes, sir.

I heard you're going to give them $20 if they don't mispronounce the first word. Oh, the first word, okay. Can we say?

Can we say? Yes, yes, sure. Yes.

Yeah, US dollars, not Vietnam dollars, okay? Yes. No, it's from China.

Oh, okay. Six yen. What's the exchange rate now?

6.5. Give me a break. One dollar is six yen. Oh, yeah.

No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Oh, $20, yeah.

Anyway, it's a lot of money, Sugeng. Let's see if they get it. 120 yen.

All right, Chinese yen, okay. Not Japanese. No, the Japanese yen collapsed today.

You're cheating them, Sugeng. Oh, really? Okay.

Someday we're going to let her say the sentence. Oh, sorry. But I wanted to try.

Good, go for it. Let's go. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

Okay. Pronounce it, Sugeng. Okay, so cancel the bet, right?

Yeah, cancel the bet. The second dollar. uh-huh uh hey she, yes yay uh third one no no, yay do yay gay do do you bar wah wah, wah la yes so stop stop, I'm good bar yes, bar uh young young young gay gay, yes idiom uh shin shin shin do do, yes gyur gyur gyur yes, thank you thank you thank you okay, good uh this what's that again what is that the the yeah in English, a nice word would be the passage of the breath the passage, the passage that we're saying, in and out oh, yeah the flow, right yeah, you can say the flow of the breath in and out that's fine yeah and other stuff like that, la sopa it's the same that's the same too what's the same mean arhats do it or not they do, right uh, is there breath that's caused by previous karma I think so yeah, is the breath of an arhat caused by the misunderstanding they used to have definitely right yeah, no problem so this is us talking again yeah, so look do they have a do they have a body, yes does it do something, yes does that mean they have ignorance, no does it mean they had the ignorance, yes that's all, okay okay, okay so don't try to tell me that because they're breathing they're going to take a rebirth as link number three yeah you have to breathe with misunderstanding, all right all right, thank you who's going to read the next sentence again um lin say jilk all right um gra dra ko chom dra chom pe lu la sok pe le le gong yin pa yin pa do na ni de tak ni lu la sok pe

[Speaker 2]
le ma yin te yang shri pa

[Speaker 1]
shri pa shri pa no nun pa nun pa du je pa ma wow

[Speaker 2]
yin pe chir ro

[Speaker 1]
wow, amazing reading this is ripping it up, Sugeng I think that a good pronunciation has moved from Singapore to Seattle, okay yeah uh that chom pe lu, Sugeng the Buddha's Arhat's body yeah, Arhat's body and the lay of that lu and the karma of that body yeah that you agreed to okay the karma, I'm sorry, the actions of their body, okay who's who agreed that they have actions we we did yeah, we did yeah, do they breathe, yes do they do stuff, yes okay, does that make them does that mean they have link number two yes no they don't have any links Arhats are outside the circle I see, oh yeah they're standing out there pointing at the moon or something okay, so yeah look, when I talk about the actions of a, the bodily actions such as breathing of an Arhat I'm not talking about lay, when I talk about lay I'm not talking about lay okay it'd be interesting to see what the Sanskrit was, but we never will because John Brady didn't find it yet he's been hanging out on the beach so what's the set, what's the difference between the two lays again yeah, when I agree that they do things I'm not agreeing that they have lay ah, this one, right lay mind thing yeah, okay, so so the dupa means who agreed the dupa means the other party oh, I agree, we agreed oh, we agreed, oh yeah look, I agree that they have actions but I don't agree they have karma unfortunately, it's the same I see they have lay, but I didn't say they have lay lay karma yeah, I agree they do stuff but I don't agree it's karma okay I agree, they breathe and other stuff like that, but they don't have karma I never said they have karma don't misquote me okay and why don't they have karma yang sipa ngumpa du ngumpa du chepa mayinpay che because they don't ngumpa du chepa yang sipa they don't do the they don't take birth yes, they don't trigger rebirth they are not in the business of triggering rebirth therefore, they do have actions but that action is not karma and it's not the second link and they don't have the third link well, do they have a consciousness after they die yes all right, was that created by the second link I didn't say that cool cool, wow yeah okay next one next one the price for getting the fourth word correct has dropped to two dollars two dollars okay, two dollars let's continue with Seattle then oh Michael is from Seattle Rob Haggerty two dollars Datawu good what was that all right, give me your PayPal I'll send you two dollars less the fees without the fees

[Speaker 2]
Nangdu Gyuwa Sokpa Sokpa Ni Mayin No

[Speaker 1]
yeah Hey Haggerty, last night I pulled out the good cups in my house for my guests the turmeric cups oh, you did yeah, I was thinking about you okay Rob brought me there too yeah Datawu So, umchi nangdu gyuwa you know that once again yeah, the flow of the breathing in and out, etc then he says it's not that either it's not that either it's not what either it's not the fresh karma yeah, it's not the second link it's not the second link and it's not causing a rebirth okay, so when I said they had breathing I meant the same thing also I meant they breathed but it doesn't mean they're triggering the third link by breathing I didn't say that okay all right, okay, thank you Geshe-la cool nice job all right, I'll try to crash this they asked me to fly a plane to Nepal yesterday so just kidding bad joke sometimes Geshe-la's jokes are not funny um okay well, I think I can turn this off yeah, okay I can't think about everything actually I got this one, I got this one, I got this one um yeah uh get this down here okay who's gonna read again let me see oh, we have Oscar, Oscar Leon yes so oh nice, thank you nice nice this in the instrumental case means figuring things out and we had it a few paragraphs ago because we talked about the different kinds of karma according to the statements of Lord Buddha and now we're talking about the different kinds of karma using our logic okay so that's where we did here it was a page or two ago so based on the same sort of reasoning, okay we can use where are we yeah it's another thing that we can figure out that Lord Buddha talked about but we can figure it out uh when we say sunim, etc okay when we talk about types of karma such as merit, right yes yeah, that's a lula sope le gyi che dak we're talking about it as a specific sort of le gyi, of lay of the body, okay when we talk about merit we are talking about locked up in the wheel of life, okay arhats don't make sunim merit yeah, do they make virtue, that's another discussion but do they make what we call merit no that's locked up in the second link, merit is a form of the second link, the second link has three forms merit, non-merit and shifting karma and shifting karma so listen, when we talk about merit it's a particular sort of bodily or other kinds of karma which are functioning as the second link, and do get you in trouble and we believe it is du je du je merit is du je it's the second karma yeah, it is the second link it is the second link yeah, now breathing, maybe not second link merit, second link I think why not breathing, not second link necessarily good is breathing the second link or not not necessarily is merit the second link or not not necessarily okay, that's all that's du je du je shepa'o means we say shepa'o means we say we say merit is the second link it is a form of the second link okay cool here we go, this is important once again, give it to somebody super smart super smart okay, can I invite ah, Mr. Lowenhaupt whoa you want to come up here, Tim you can embarrass yourself in public oh, okay yeah hey, Sugeng, he combed his hair just in case you're going to call on him yeah, I saw nice hair got a haircut, I don't know what happened I'm trying to find out the rare because it's hard to get

[Speaker 2]
whoa

[Speaker 1]
all right, here we go now he's all okay please read Sugeng, you got the plane sure sunam kyang chiyen sunam mayenta yang chiyen mi yowa yang chiyen deyakisikni tenparme nunchena good and by the way, Sugeng when you translate your book don't worry too much about grammar don't worry too much about spelling okay it's ancient, ancient, it's corrupted, it's corrupted no one ever taught it, it got more corrupted it's been two and a half thousand it's been seventeen centuries okay what does Geshe-la always say One Dr. Pillai, when he shot a soldier that dropped a match and pierced it to the rotor and bothered every villager in Srisanthapur, that's English, that's English, that's English only 400 years old.

Okay, now multiply times, like multiply times four, five, that's how old this language is. So get the feeling and don't worry too much about the grammar. It's a dream job you have.

Okay, so the other guy says, hey, what's cinnamchiyan? So, what is married? Yeah, what's the cinnamayimba?

What's the cinnamayimba you're talking about? What is non-married, yeah. Yeah, and what's miyowa?

What is unshifting? Can you tell me, because these six are not ngun. It's not obvious from the words themselves.

What's married, non-married, and especially the third one, right, unshifting, it's like the workers that might have, oh no, never mind, not moving. Why do you call that? What's it mean, okay?

The other guy's asking, what do you mean? Why this kyang, you guys? First of all, what the heck is married?

Second of all, what the heck is anti-married? And third of all, what the heck heck is not shifting? Okay, got it?

Okay, it means he's like one, two, three. Oh, okay. Who's gonna read the game?

Well, since team Lowenhaupt is there, can you please continue? We'll double your pay. Double my pay from zero to zero.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity. Okay, let's go. You guys, well, I gave you this translation, that's a problem.

This is what we say. This is what we say. What's Dilpa here, Sigan?

Desire realm? Desire. Desire realm, yeah.

Unfortunately, sometimes they call it desire realm, just desire. Okay, so here in the desire realm, when you act and you do geway le. Virtuous karma?

Yeah, virtuous actions here in the desire realm, we call sin. We call merit. Word, what is cinnamon Sanskrit?

Is it crucial or something? Shubhe or something? I can look, but.

Can you look it up? Human dictionary. Who's next, Sigan?

Okay. I can move if you'd like. No, please continue.

I put glue on his bottom. He's stuck here. Yeah, but you have to supply something from the previous line.

You have to repeat. In the desire realm. Yeah, okay.

Actually, do you have to repeat it? Can you have mi geway le in the sukha and subme? They kill each other, right?

Those are desire realm? I don't know. Okay, anyway, the same sort of non-virtuous karma is what we call not merit.

And Tim's going to do the third one. Yes, please. Yeah, what we call mi yowa or unshifting refers to where you are chipping in the sukha or subme.

What does that mean? Tim's going to. Unshifting is when you're doing virtue in the form and formless realms.

Now, here comes the punchlines again. You probably want to get a more amazing person up here. I'll take it.

Bye. Thank you. Wait, wait.

Do you want me to do the punchline? Yes, please. Two more lines.

Chi chir mi yowa she jashema. What's that mean? Oh, it's chi chir.

Are you saying?

[Speaker 2]
Why?

[Speaker 1]
Why? Yeah, why do you call it unshifting? That's such a weird name for karma.

I understand merit. I understand non-merit. But what's this thing about non-shifting?

What's that? What kind of karma is that? And Uncle Tim is going to answer.

Is that a G or a K sound? Yes. Good.

Yowa means guwa. He says our answer is yowa is guwa. Guwa means to move your body.

I don't know. Somebody's really lazy and you're saying, guwa and get up and do something. Guwa means move your ass.

Move your ass. Guwa. Yowa means move your...

And what it means here is, moving here means you jirwa into shen. You move to another place? You change into something else.

Oh, you change into something else. Shifting here means your nature moves or changes into something else. First you had one nature, and then your nature changes.

And that's what we mean by shifting. What kind of changing? Tim would have to read on.

Thank you. So, Gang, you want or you want to fire him? No, it's good.

It's cool. He has a new hairstyle. I like it.

All right. You got the... Someone else get a haircut next time, all right?

Some people have automatic haircuts.

[Speaker 2]
What do I do with that one?

[Speaker 1]
That's difficult. The nature of this third kind of karma, which is neither merit nor non-merit, is called unshifting, because it doesn't do any shifting. Mi yowa chen.

Because it doesn't do any shifting. What do you mean shifting? Well, there's the samten realms, the concentration realms, which is a synonym for the formless realms.

And there's the subliminal realms. Formless realms. Yeah.

And inside of those realms, dak na, di yipar minyukpay. There's no ability to change. This cannot be shifting.

Okay? Cannot be shifting. Okay?

You want to see on me? Yeah, it's the past tense of yowa. What do you mean?

What is this? Oh, oh, D. We don't know yet.

What is the D? Yeah, he asked what's the D-I-S, and we don't know yet, okay? Yeah, we don't know yet.

And it's an important word here, you're right. It's a very important word here. Okay, yipar minyukpay.

By the way, why we type G hyphen Y? It's the only ambiguity in Tibetan uchen. Yeah.

When you change Tibetan alphabet into Roman alphabet, the only ambiguity you have, the only place that can be read two different ways is G Y. G could either be a prefix letter, or G could be the main letter with a yatag under it. So we always put a hyphen.

In the early days, we put G A hyphen Y. In the later days, we changed it to G hyphen Y. To indicate the prefix.

Yeah, to indicate that the G is a prefix letter. Why did we take the A out? Extra keystroke, unnecessary.

Yeah, extra keystroke. How long has this typing been going on? 35 years.

35 years. How many pages have they typed so far? About a million and a half.

Two and a half million. Two and a half million. So we want to strip it down to the fewest keystrokes possible.

If you can save one keystroke out of a hundred, you just saved a million dollars. You see what I mean? And you saved six months' work, or something, by the whole team.

So we stripped down the Tibetan to minimum Roman letters. But we couldn't get away without this hyphen. So is that why we use the double space?

Double space. After a period. Oh, yeah.

Hey, Geshe-la, can I ask you a quick question? No matter how far you strip it down, it still has to be... Considering the reader's convenience, it's always more important than efficiency.

Like lots of white space on the page is important. It's more expensive. It takes more pages, but it helps the reader.

Okay, there's my answer. Geshe-la? Yeah?

Is Wiley inconsistent with this one? Because I feel like I've seen it before. Oh, I think Wiley uses a dog, which is just ugly.

So I don't use ugly stuff. That's why all the translators are handsome and beautiful. SA'OGS PA'I MI PHYIN PA'I PHYOG Okay.

Okay. The things in the SA'OGS... What's the OAK mode?

Lower levels. Under the ground. The desire realm.

Compared to the formless realm. Negativities in the desire realm. For example, for a good example, attachment to the physical appearance of things.

Attachment to the physical appearance of things is unique. Or attachment to food and sex is unique to the desire realm. So that's the SA'OGS PA'I MI PHYIN PA'I PHYOG here.

The things in the desire realm which work against your spiritual progress are called opposite side lower. Lower opposite side. Things in the desire realm which work against you making spiritual progress are called OAK ME MI PHYIN PA'I PHYOG.

For example, food and sex. Overattachment to food and sex. And these karmas are not grown by those problems.

Not affected? They are not affected. They are not wrapped up in those problems because they are in the form and formless realm.

Okay. Karma done in the form and formless realm, especially virtuous karma, we will call unshifty. Because it's not influenced by the problems of the lower realm.

It doesn't shift according to those problems showing up and not showing up. Because they don't show up. It doesn't shift.

Yeah, but still when they get old, they get upset. Okay. Last one here and we can finish up this yoga stuff and get rid of Tim.

Please. All right. DER CHUNG BA'I LAS NI MI YOD PA YIN NO Yeah.

DER CHUNG BA'I LAS Karma which manifests this way is called unshifty. It cannot be... It cannot be shifted.

Now, maybe we should keep Tim for one more sentence and then let him go. Because here comes the traditional way of explaining unshifting karma nowadays. In the sutra, they just say some people have this other opinion, but it has become the standard opinion now.

If you ask a modern... If you ask anybody in the last thousand years, meaning recently, they will say here's why we call it MI YOD PA and Tim's going to read. Yeah, and that's this idea that if you commit a karma which is supposed to send you to a certain level of the form realm, it cannot be shifted.

It will always take you to that level. There's no alternate. There's no option.

Therefore, that karma is called unshifty. It's not going to suddenly shift to a hell realm or even to a form realm. It's going to take you to whatever level it was supposed to take you to, and it will not shift.

And then there's all these debates. What if you do the full powers? Will it shift?

Yes. The answer is yes. Is it still unshifting?

Yes. Okay, because normally it doesn't shift. Okay, how's that?

Okay. We're out of time, Geshe-la. Yeah, okay, good.

Yay! Nice job, Sidney. It was a fun class.

I don't know what happened. We call these two days the light at the end of the tunnel classes. Yeah.

This is the last class for me in this term. I know you're pretending to be sad. No, but this is cool.

This is fun. No, because now the boss sitting next to you is going to make you fix all the stuff in the house you didn't do for the last two days. Yeah.

Yeah, we just stopped. So, yeah, can I do a... Now Geshe-la is going back to the regular person.

Regular person. So, let me do a... Oh, homework.

For next term... Yes. My cursor is not working.

I'm sorry. Geshe-la, you still have to click on save, Geshe-la. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Okay, I'm going to cancel it right now. Okay. No, no, no.

I want you to do... Just the next three sections, okay? Gopala, and Chai Nanga, okay?

Okay, okay. Thank you. That's cool.

Thank you. Good job. By the way, we're making good progress on finishing Ben's first book, and we'll be on to some of those other first books.

For example, your debate text on the Wheel of Life, okay? All right, thank you. Thank you very much.

All right. Thank you, Geshe-la. Thank you so much, and nice work, Sugong.

Thank you. This book's getting funner each time. I'm not sure.

It's getting easier. Easier, funner. Okay, let's take a, well, five-minute break.

Oh, man, you're such a tough boss. Okay. And we will be back here shortly for...

Ben. Oh. The exciting ending of this biography.

Okay. See you guys soon. Thank you, Geshe-la.