Сугэн Ши — Книга 2: Колесо жизни (первый принцип и подразделения зависимости), занятие 4

[Speaker 1]
Hey Sugeng, I like your tie. Thank you. I think Surabaya Rajini probably got it for you.

Thank you. Hey, Tim, can I have record access, please, Tim, or is that? I'm working on it.

[Speaker 3]
Working on it.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, thank you. Let's see here, okay.

[Speaker 3]
You guys do know I do record this both in YouTube and also as regular video, so you don't have to record. I mean, you can on your own, but just letting you know I have all those recordings.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, just want to be, to have a copy. Thank you. Okay, good.

Okay, let's. So this is a pretty long work. Sugeng finished a very good work on the Wheel of Life, the Twelve Links, and then he decided he wants to go deeper, and there's an ancient commentary by Master Vasubandhu, which is extremely long, and it's extremely beautiful, and I should say something about this commentary.

It's very deep. Vasubandhu is not in accounting mode, okay? He's in kidney mode, all right?

He's in mind-only mode. It's a very deep commentary, and this is a very dangerous job we are doing because there is no lineage. Nobody wrote a commentary on it for 1,700 years.

Nobody tried to read this book for 1,700 years, okay? And there's no Sanskrit. It's also missing, and the translator, I think, was smoking the same thing as the hippies.

Understand? So we have a Tibetan translation by some guy who was going to get a beer every few hours, I think so, and we don't have any commentaries. We don't have any Tibetan commentaries.

We don't have any Indian commentaries. So we are really on our own. It's like mom and dad are gone, and they took the training wheels off the bicycle, and it's kind of fun for me, because now we are like doing a ten-year commentary.

We are the first ones to do a commentary in 2,000 years. In 1,700 years, we are the first ones to try to understand this book, and it's going to be difficult, and there's not going to be help. We cannot do what we do in the other classes.

We cannot go to another commentary and get help. We are going to have to make executive decisions in this book. We are going to have to make executive decisions.

We are going to have to make our own decisions about what he is trying to say. Again, it's very good to ask your wife to make you a good breakfast, and do some exercise, and have a good meditation, and then look at the book, and pray to Vasubandhu for help, because you are not going to get any help from anybody else. It's kind of exciting for me as a translator.

It's kind of a mission impossible. For me, it's kind of fun. Here we go.

We are going to do the original sutra, which is very short. It's Buddha Explaining the Twelve Links. That's about it.

Then we have a long commentary. This book, when Sugeng finishes it, I think it will be about 1,000 pages. The translation itself will be 856 pages.

Even if we speed up, it's going to take another seven years or something. So Sugeng, just relax. Your kids will be 40 or something, I don't know, when you finish.

I can tell you though, when you get to be 60, 70 years old, you can appreciate it more. Okay? I don't think there's any Sanskrit, but it's possible sometimes that other Sanskrit books mention this book.

That can help us, but you can work with John Campbell and see if you can find any manuscripts. Like the Medicine Buddha, we only have one manuscript. It came from a small, dirty stupa in the mountains of Afghanistan.

So maybe there's something like that somewhere. Maybe Sugeng and Shinten have to walk around Pakistan, Afghanistan, look for it. All right, here's the general structure of the Twelve Links.

It's interesting where he spends most of his time. I think he's spending most of his time on misunderstanding, of course. He spends a very long time on the third link, which is consciousness entering the womb.

That's where he does his emphasis. Again, he's not... forget thinking about Vasubandhu as an Abhidharma guy.

You have to break out of that mode. He's showing his true identity here, and his commentary is wild. Forget the Abhidharma stuff.

He starts going crazy. All right. I think by this time...

Remember that he wrote Abhidharmakosha just after he became Mahayana. But I think he wrote this commentary much later. I think he was already a Mind-Only Master by this time.

He must have read words translation probably. Okay. All right, now we're doing two jobs.

We are reading an ancient history of Vasubandhu's life, and we are reading the commentary. My suggestion, Sugeng, which you know, is we spend two classes on his biography. We won't finish, but let's spend two classes or one class every term, and slowly we'll get through the biography.

Then after two classes this term, we will go to the commentary, so we don't lose touch with the commentary. All right.

[Speaker 2]
Can I ask a question first, please? I noticed that the version you're showing there is not the same that we have, that everyone else has as well. Could you quickly send me a copy of that, and I'll get it out?

[Speaker 1]
Let me make sure I'm not using the wrong one.

[Speaker 2]
Well, we have them titled the exact same way.

[Speaker 1]
So it's February 14th? Does that sound to me safe?

[Speaker 2]
Yep, that's what I have, but I also have a lot longer notes than what you have at the top.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, I think you're on the wrong term. Skip to term 12. A lot of the notes are the same.

[Speaker 2]
My apologies.

[Speaker 1]
Look for term 12. Yeah, I had the same problem just now. All right.

Now, don't forget, he's been studying in Kashmir. He met, for example, a Sahabhadra. He became an Abhidharma master, and he's headed back to central India from Kashmir in north India, and he's met some demons, and they have stolen his books.

And all his books and paintings that were owned by Vasubandhu. Now, what's going to happen next? Only Sugeng can tell us.

Who's checking Sugeng is... I don't know, word comes to mind. Oh, Adam's been...

It's Adam's turn. Let's go. Okay, Sugeng, read slowly and perfectly.

Drog. Drog. Drog.

Drog. Drog. Drog.

Drog. It's like HR. Oh, HR.

HR. Drog. Drog tu mi tukpe yo che kang yang mepar dro nyam tu gong ne peppe.

Nice. Okay. Okay, so the books got stolen by the demons who are similar to customs officers, they said.

If you've ever been to customs in India, you know what they're talking about. Especially if you carry diamonds through customs. We used to put in 10% extra diamonds so they could steal them and we'd still have a full shipment.

Lekpa ma sopa. Lekpa means pustaka. What is that?

Books? Yeah, a volume, a book. Ancient palm leaf manuscript.

Thardu means he had to do that over again. Sheng is high, high honorific for building something, okay, or constructing something. Okay, so like when you paint a thangka, you use the verb sheng.

When you build a temple, you use the word sheng, okay? So here he had the books rewritten, okay? Saw to sheng.

Then he pepped, he went on his way, and len sum ki pardu, a second time, and then a third time, trok. What's trok, you guys? Trokpa.

Stolen. Stolen.

[Speaker 3]
They were stolen, okay?

[Speaker 1]
He wrote them a second time, they were stolen again. He wrote them a third time, they were stolen again. Okay, trok, okay?

Then, lopeng gi tungla, what's that mean? Master's heart or mind? Yeah, in the master's mind, he said to himself, da, da means well, nor me.

I ain't got no rich, I have no money. Yeah, I got no more money to copy these books again, okay? So lekpa me.

No more volumes of books. Yeah, I'm going to have to go to middle of India with no books, okay? But all these chairs are in my loft.

I got all this dharma in my mind. Yeah, all this dharma is in my mind, okay? And su kyang, rok is an ancient form of trok.

Me tuk, me tuk is an ancient form of tuba. Able to. Nobody could ever stroke them from my sim.

No one will be able to steal them from him. Yeah, okay? They are unstealable.

They are in my brain, okay? That's kind of cool, okay? So he said, yo je means stuff, okay?

Stuff to carry on the trip. Me park dro, me park dro.

[Speaker 2]
He went without it.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, what the hell? I'll just go, I'll walk with nothing in my pockets and nothing on my back. And nobody can steal anything.

I got all the books in my head, okay? So to protect himself, he did the fourth trip without anything, you know? No money, no horse, no books, okay?

And he said, yeah, I'll just go. Gong, he thought to himself. And he pep.

Gong. All right, su kyang. Eli, if that's you, I think you wanted to check his reading, okay?

Or why not? Okay. na len drar chon ter te nun zinpa mangpo la chu kya chertun jing sukpa na chen pakpa tokme kyi ten chu mang tu tsampa sen ne Nice, nice, okay?

Then he went to the original Nalanda Monastery, okay? In India, okay? Not the one in Tibet.

He went. Chon means past tense, went, okay? There were many dena zinpas there.

What's a dena zinpa? Pitaka dhara. People who understood the teachings.

Yeah, keepers of the three baskets. You know, great masters. Basket masters, okay?

And he taught them that chu kya chertun. He taught them the dharma extensively, okay? And he stayed there among them at Nalanda.

At that point, his chen, which is chenpo, which means older brother, okay? So obviously it's related to the word big, right? So what do you guess is the name for little brother?

Tokme. Asanga. Chun.

Asanga. Chun. Yeah, with no aspiration.

So chen means older brother. Who's his brother? Parpa tokme.

Asanga. Aryasanga. Yeah.

He was writing many tenchas, shastras, okay? Classical commentaries, which of course are his five great books of Maitreya, right? And his extensive levels books, okay?

The levels of the listeners, the levels of the bodhisattvas, okay? Senmi is the polite word for, he listened to his brother teaching these new books that his brother had written, okay? And then Vasubandhu expressed his opinion about those books in this verse, okay?

Sugeng is going to read, and Adam, try to find something wrong with him, okay? You can do it. You can complain about the tires, you know?

SKYE MA THOB MED NAGS SU LO CHU NYID BAR DU STING ZIN DRUG STING ZIN MA DRUG LANG CHEN GYIS RGYAB GAL LONG BA'I DRUG DAR BYAMS Yeah, good. Okay. We had SKYE MA KHI HOD the other day.

Anybody can tell me? Hey! Yeah!

Whoa! Whoa! SKYE MA means whoa!

This THOB MED ASANGA DRUG DRUG Yeah, great. DRUG means he practiced, okay? He practiced.

STING ZIN SINGAL POINT FOR LO CHU NYID FOR LO CHU NYID 12 years. Yeah, great, great, Sugeng, great. Yeah, BAR DU means for the length of 12 years.

And we know the story, right? In the cave. Hey, my older brother, he spent 12 years in the NAR.

NAR means jungle, okay? He spent 12 years in the jungle, in a cave, trying to get to medit... Trying to get to the single-pointed focus.

And he STING ZIN MA DRUG. MA DRUG. STING ZIN MA DRUG.

He didn't achieve his meditation. Yeah, he didn't get it, okay? He didn't get it.

Yeah, now look at the DRUG in the second line. That's the verb, to practice.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
He tried to master meditation for 12 years in the jungle, but in the end, he didn't master it, okay? Well, so what did he do with all the time? Oh, he TZAMS a lot of DRUG THAGS.

[Speaker 2]
Wrote a lot of books.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, he wrote a lot of books. Siddhanta, right? Siddhanta.

This is Ben Kramer's text name, okay? He just wrote books for all a bunch of different schools. How much books?

Well, you could put it on top of a LONG CHEN. An elephant. Yeah.

It's enough to make a KAL. LONG means enough to make. LONG means enough to make.

A KAL means a load that you put on the gap of an elephant. On the back. On the back of an elephant.

So here's his opinion. When he gets to the London Monastery, he comes back, he's just mastered Abhidharma, and his brother is there teaching his new books that he learned from Maitreya, right? And Vasubandhu says, God, he spent 12 years trying to master meditation.

He didn't master any meditation. And he just... So he just wrote a bunch of book crap that's enough to put on the top of an elephant, you know?

Okay. By the way, that's a famous measurement for books that we are going to get in Stanley's Abhidharma in his next class, okay? CHUG GI PHUNG PO DGE PHYI BDAG The definition of the 84,000 heaps of Dharma, according to some people, is the amount you could put on a special elephant's back, okay?

So he's just saying this guy wasted his time writing a lot of books, and he didn't get anywhere in his personal practice, okay? Geshe-la, what is that KAL, gap, KAL, KAL? KAL means a load, and gap means to put on the back.

Oh, okay. By the way, who can tell me how that relates to how we number pages? The Bs, the B for the second page of a book.

Yeah, back side of a Tibetan page is called the B page, the B side, because the word back ends with B, okay? So that's how you can remember the word gap, okay? All right.

Yeah. You, Word wants to check your pronunciations again. Thank you, Word.

BYAS THAG CHEN GYI GYIS GANG ZAG THANG CHU LA GUR PA BYAS PA CHEN GYIS ZAN NAS LOG THUB DON MIN THUG RGYUR BAR GAN NAS DE'I MDOG PA'I CHER LOB MA NYID SA BYED PA'I CHUG PA THANG LOG MTHRO MI ZAS PA'I BSTAN PA'I RGYUR DU BCUG NAS Nice, nice pronunciation. You are a pronunciation master. Thank you.

BYAS THAG CHEN GYIS GANG ZAG THANG CHU LA GUR BAR GAN NAS Okay, who can tell me, GUR BAR GAN NAS? It's there in the English. Underestimate?

He discounted. Who did he discount? Take Pachembo.

The teaching of the Mahayana? Yeah. Not only the teaching, but also the Kazakh.

People, the people. Yeah. He put down the people who are practicing Mahayana and he put down the teachings of the Mahayana.

When the CHEN heard about it, CHEN GYIS ZAN NAS When the CHEN heard, what's CHEN?

[Speaker 2]
Brother.

[Speaker 1]
The big brother. Yeah, when the big brother heard about Vasubandhu was putting down the Dharma, calling it useless books on an elephant's back and the people meaning his brother. LOG GRUB DON MIN DU GYUR BAR GAN NAS He knew this would end up wasting Vasubandhu's time and practice.

DON MIN It would end up ruining his time and his practice. CHEN is the honorific for? ON?

ZHIG PA ZHIG PA He understood that this was going to hurt his brother and he didn't say anything. He didn't criticize him. But, DE'I MDOG He tried to stop him.

He tried to stop him. How? He told the two disciples, he told the two disciples, I want you guys to memorize SA CHUG PA'I RDOG and LOG GRUB MI ZAD PA'I RDOG I want you guys to memorize these two books.

He gave his brother an assignment and apparently there was another disciple with them or two disciples. And we don't know who. Nobody ever says who it is.

LOG MA NYID means two disciples. I want you guys to memorize these two sutras. SA CHUG PA'I RDOG is called The Sutra on the Ten Bodhisattva Levels.

And here's your bibliography entry already ready. Because we've already done it. And this sutra called The Sutra Taught by the Bodhisattva of Never-Ending Wisdom.

LOG GRUB MI ZAD PA'I means Never-Ending Wisdom. Whose name in Sanskrit is Akshaya Mati. Akshaya Mati.

A means not. Akshaya means ending. Mati means wisdom.

And by the way, as I remember, do you guys remember what part the second sutra plays in the Changi literature? The Art of Interpreting the Buddha? Anybody remember?

Which one Geshe-la, the... The LOG GRUB MI ZAD PA'I BSTAN PA'I RDOG Akshaya Mati Sutra. Myrtesha.

Is that where the Middle Way refutation comes from? Yeah. That's the...

Yeah, that's a book where, if I'm not mistaken in my remembering, because it was 20 years ago, it's the book that interprets the third turning of the wheel as Madhyamika. It's pretty much Nagarjuna's interpretation of the third turning of the wheel. It looks like mind only, but it's really just Mahayana in a different package.

It's really just Madhyamika in a different package. All right. So that's a good book to have his brother...

That's a good book to have his little brother memorize. All right. I think word, can you check again and Sugeng will read?

Okay. Okay, good. I'm sorry, so I misread the last paragraph.

Asanga told two of his students to recite those books. And then they went together to the younger brother. Here's CHUNG.

They went together with the younger brother. And SOS means in the evening, and THO RANG means in the morning. DHAN GCIG means let's recite it.

Let's recite it together in the evening and in the morning. DGO BA LTAR GDUG PAS As he was directed by the two students, RANG SUGS PA'ANG DU also recited. DUN means recited the sutras.

And when he heard the words, SEMS PA NA, by evening, on the evening of the day that he first started reciting the sutras or heard other people reciting them, he said, hey, from a point of view of the causes, this Mayana stuff is pretty cool. RGYUD BZANG From the point of view of causes, this Mayana literature is pretty cool. But the DGE'I BU, the result, is like a huge void.

I can't see where it's going. I understand it seems like a pretty good practice, but where it's leading to, it looks like a black hole to me. HE DONG GANG GI YOD PA It looks like it's all headed towards some big black hole, meaning emptiness.

I mean, it looks like good stuff, but where it's going to lead to, it looks like a big black hole. So he changed his opinion 50%. That was in the evening.

Anticipatory translation. So he will then go and admit to the elder brother that he looked down on his teaching beforehand. By morning, what's going to happen?

The next morning, he would regret it, right? I think he would regret it. I think by morning, he's going to understand the DGE'I BU.

Ah, the result, okay. Yeah, by morning, the result is going to come clear in his mind. He already agrees that as a method, it seems promising, but as a result, it seems like a big black hole.

Now, let's see what happens in the morning. I'm just guessing, okay? But I did read it before.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. Okay. Sugeng is reading.

And Gibson, can you check him? DOR RANG RGYUN DRE NYID KHAS SANG BAR GYUR PA LA NGES KUR PA THAB PA CHEN DIR LEN PAS BCUGS SUNG NAS BU DRID MTSOL BA'I TSE GONG NYID KYIS BYAG KUN MI MTSAL DE'I DRIB PA BYANG THAB CHEN LA NGA'I DER ZHAG PAR SU SUG PAS Yeah, I'm going to change my notes. All right, good.

Okay. Now, what do you guess is going to happen in the morning, Sugeng, about the cause and effect thing? As a method and an outcome.

Let's call it method and outcome.

[Speaker 2]
Method and outcome.

[Speaker 1]
They make sense to him? Yeah, the outcome is going to come clear to him. He already thought that the method was SANG PO, was cool.

And now, NYID KHAS SANG. Both are... Yeah, both are cool.

By the morning, he understood that both the method and the outcome were both unbelievable. DUP PA LA Then he realized, NGA'I means I was kundap. I was kundap.

I was discounting? Yeah, I was discounting it. And I made a mistake.

Whose fault was it? LEN. LEN means whose fault was it?

CHE We had, in Stanley's text, a discussion of whether NGA or CHE should go first.

[Speaker 2]
Eyes and ears? No, but your tongue. Tongue and nose.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, good. Who won? Nose.

Yeah. Nose smelled the food before the CHE tasted it, right? So, my criticizing my brother was the fault of my tongue.

And in English, we say fault of. In Tibetan, you say fault by. It's my tongue's fault that I was criticizing my brother.

Therefore, I will CHOS. DORJE CHOS PA Cut. Yeah, I will cut my tongue off.

Okay. Now, TSUL BA means to look for something, right? TSAL BA.

He looked for a BU JI, a BU JI.

[Speaker 2]
Razor.

[Speaker 1]
A knife? A razor blade. A razor blade.

What's BU JI DANG PAS LAM? For $50. BU JI DANG PAS LAM.

$50. Walking on a razor blade. Yay!

$50 for the can. You, you're disgusting. Okay.

Yeah, it's a, it's a part of the hell realms where the whole road is razor blades facing upwards, right? It means the path full of razors. For $20.

Somebody tell me another famous razor going on here. Licking honey off a razor blade. Yeah.

Crown of knife. Nah. That's a thousand years later.

Licking honey off a razor blade. What's that? Licking honey off a razor blade?

Nah, come on, you guys. You're splitting hairs. What?

[Speaker 2]
The razor's edge between going to, you know, the two extremes.

[Speaker 1]
It has to do with NAK LA LO CHU NGI DRUG. NAK LA LO CHU NGI DRUG. Oh, the, when Asanga saw it, he saw that, what it took to other people doing when he tried to leave meditation.

And he saw people, like the water dripping on the stone and everything. Come on, you guys. He went and borrowed a Poochie.

Can I give you a, okay, a hint? Oh, the, he wants to slice his thigh for the dog. Is that?

Yeah, he wants to cut his leg so he can put the maggots. Give them somewhere warm to stay, okay? Which was how he met Asanga, Maitreya, okay?

I mean, I think there's a razor blade thing going on here between these two, between really, between these two brothers, okay? So now Vasubandhu's looking for a razor blade to do what? To cut the tongue?

He wants to cut out his tongue because he, because he spoke bad about his brother and he just figured it out, okay? Now, kong nyi means those two students of Asanga, okay? Those two students of Asanga, unnamed, okay?

I haven't been able to find their names. They said, don't goom your jock, okay? Jock is honorific for che.

To cut tongue. Tongue, okay? Jock is honorific for tongue.

Goom, we had it with, to die, right? Kyang kum, right? Don't kill your tongue.

Tsel means try. Hey, don't try to take out your tongue, okay? Don't try to cut out your tongue, please, okay?

If you want to purify the obstacle you created by criticizing your brother, okay? If you want to stop that obstacle, drepa jang, if you're interested in purifying that obstacle, we suggest, we think that method top. Chen la nga.

Chen la nga. Chen la yu. Chen la yu.

For now on, it's the high honorific for yu. Yupa. You should use your brother's method.

Your brother has a way. Your brother has a way. He'll have a way.

He'll have a way to purify that karma, okay? So don't cut out your tongue. Let's shake to your brother.

Dey shen shekpa. Go over to him. Let's talk to him.

Yeah, hey, let's go check in with your brother. Shu shupa, okay? Shu shupa means they told him over and over again.

They asked him over and over again. Please, please, come on. Let's go consult with your brother.

Don't cut your tongue out. That's premature. He might want you to cut your arms off also.

Just kidding. All right. I think Gibson, I'm sorry.

How about Alex and Rivas checking and Sugeng reading? Okay, here we go. Loppong i ngen pakpa tokme kyi sar chon te chu san pe de ne pakpe tokme la ngepa sakpa te tekpa chenpoy chu nam rim kyi san sing Good, san sing.

San sing. Yeah, so loppong i ngen, what's that mean, Sugeng? Loppong i ngen.

Yeah, master Vasubandhu. Yeah, master Vasubandhu went to the pakpa. To the Arya.

Yeah, Arya Sangha. By the way, in general, when we're talking about a Sangha, we never say a Sangha. We always say loppong.

We always say pakpa tokme. We always say the Arya. Arya number two.

Who's Arya number one? Arya Nagarjuna. Yeah, Nagarjuna.

sar min sa la, to the place where he was. Jun is the past tense, high honorific. He went to where the Arya was, to the Arya's house, and he sent to the chu.

He listened to the Dharma from him. And he got tepa. Really?

Faith, faith. Yeah, and then he shakpa to a Sangha. Arya Sangha.

He did a shakpa. He did a topshi, chatur bala. Oh, the four power.

Yeah, he did a confession. Confession. And nyepa is the last category of Alison's text.

112 nyepa, mistakes, okay? Which we didn't get to yet, and we're not going to get to for five years, okay? Sorry.

He confessed his mistake to his brother. And then, one by one, rim gi rim gi rim gi rim gi, right? He listened to the tepa chenpo chen.

To the teaching of the Dharma of the Mahayana. Why do you think it says rim gi? One by one.

Because there are a lot of them? Well, there's the five famous books of Maitreya. So probably he listened to those one by one.

And if I remember correctly, the levels texts, like Bodhisattva Bhumi, the Shravaka Bhumi, those Bhumi texts, I think there's seven volumes or something like that. So one by one he worked through the great teachings of Arya Sangha, okay? Okay, who's next?

What is shen? Oh, he listened. Oh, listen, okay.

Sen means listen, shing means and, okay? Okay, go ahead. Keep going.

Gibson, you're checking. dey che pakpa tokme la je tsul nyampa ngyunpo drel me Jetsun what? Jetsun what?

Je tsul nyampa? Nyampa, good, yeah. nyunpo drel me du suk ne jawa tam che je tsul la tsu zing sepa de jung kyi kye ne hlakpay hla de dak la tenpar su cha su che pay Okay, cool.

This is kind of beautiful, okay? If I said that to my teacher, he'd say, well, show me something that's not beautiful in this text. He would always say that.

I'd say, oh, that's so beautiful. He'd say, what's not beautiful in this book? Okay, dey che, at that time, to the Arya Sangha, Jetsun Jampa was appearing.

[Speaker 2]
Or Maitreya.

[Speaker 1]
Maitreya. Lord Maitreya, the protector, gunpo. Drel me means they were never apart.

He was hanging out with Maitreya 24-7. Arya Sangha was hanging out with the future Buddha all day, all night. They were hanging out together.

And anytime Arya Sangha was thinking to do something, he would shoo to the Jetsun. He would ask the Jetsun, is that a good idea? Should I teach that book?

Should I help those students? Okay, shoo means he would ask his opinion. And only then he would ze.

He would say something? He would say?

[Speaker 3]
He would do it.

[Speaker 1]
Only then he would do it. This is the perfect disciple, right? Which doesn't exist, okay?

If you were a perfect disciple, you wouldn't need a teacher. He would always go to Maitreya and say, I'm thinking to do this in my next month. What do you think about it?

Zepa. No. And the chun, ken about it.

Or the little brother. Ken. Zepa.

Zepa. Do it? He understood.

He found out. He figured it out. The little brother figured out that the big brother was hanging out with Maitreya all the time and asking him advice all day long.

Then he said, Hey, can you tenpa that hla to me? Can you show me the Buddha? Yeah, can you show me this deity?

The deity? Can you show me this deity? By the way, we say slakpay hla.

Slakpay means super deity. Can you show me this super deity? Hsu means he requested.

Vasubandhu said to Arya Sanga, his big brother, God, that's so cool that you have 24-hour advice hotline. Dharma hotline. Can you teach me how to do that?

Here we go. Who's going to check? Gibson still.

Gibson. Good, nice, nice. GED ZIN LA ZHU'I GSUNG I'll ask him.

I'll ask the Holy One. He said, Asanga said, I'll ask the Holy One. Then he actually ZHU'.

He did ask him. Would it be okay if I introduced you to my little brother? And GED ZIN said, from the Holy Lips of the Holy One, ZHU' means Holy Lips.

He responded, Listen, now he's talking to, he's referring to Vasubandhu. You are SO SO SKYE BA. Non-Arya.

You are? Yeah, your brother is a BHAG PA. Your big brother is a BHAG PA, but you're just a SO SO SKYE BA.

And not only that, in the beginning, you KUR BA'ANG DRAB to the THEG PA CHEN PO. To discount, look down. Yeah, you talk bad about the Mahayana teachings.

Therefore, in this life, you don't have the SKYE BA to TONG SNGA. Wow, you don't have the ear, the seeds to see me. Yeah, you will never see me in this life.

You will never have enough good karma to see me in this life. Okay, that's the bad news. Here comes the good news.

Okay, go ahead. DRIB PA BYANG BAR BYA BA'I PHYIR THEG CHEN GYIS MDO BRAL MANG THU MTSOMS TSUG MTHOR RNAMS RGYAL GYIS GSUNGS DON CHI MA LA BRAL GSUNGS Yeah, good. And then he continued.

GSUNGS means Maitreya continued to talk to Vasubandhu. If you want to BYANG your DRIB PA, if you want to confess to your obstacles, if you want to purify your obstacles, I suggest you, TSUNGS means you should write some books about the THEG CHEN GYIS MDO BRAL Write some book about the Sutra of the Higher, Bigger Way. Yeah, I want you to write a lot of commentaries about Mahayana Sutras.

For example, you might write one about the Sutra which teaches the Twelve Links of Dependent Origination. Got it? I think it'd be good if you wrote some commentaries to Sutras.

And I think you should recite the GSUNGS. GSUNGS GSUNGS GSUNGS DARA NI Oh, DARA NI. You should recite the DARA NI for USH NISHA VIJAYA.

This is a special tantric deity. It's called the top of the head victorious. USH NISHA means the top knot, and VIJAYA means victorious knot.

That's time, Lama. What's that? That's time, sorry.

Oh, wait, wait, we got to finish the sentence. If you do those two things, PHYI MA LA BRJEL You can see me in this life? Say PHYI MA.

Oh, the next life. Yeah, I'll meet you in the next life, don't be late. That's a Jimi Hendrix song, okay?

I'll meet you in the next life, okay? Yay, good place to start. Nice job, Sugeng.

Wow, thank you, Geshe-la. It's an exciting story, right? It's like a science fiction novel.

Wow. Can't wait to finish the story. Yeah, by the way, it gets sexy, okay?

It gets even sexier. All right, let's do Mandala. PASI PUKI JUGSING PENTOK TRUNG RIRAM LINGSING IN DENGEN PADI SANGGE CHUNYUSMING DE ULWARGI ROKUN NAMDAK SINGHAT PARTSYONG IDAM GURU RATNAMANDALAKAM NIRYATAYAMI GEWA DI GEWA KUN TSUL NAM YOD SEMS TSONG SRONG ZHIG TSUL NAM YOD SEMS LAS BYUNG BA'I DAM PAR KHUGS KYIS STONG PAR BYONG So it's interesting that the Abhidharmakosha was written to explain the Hinayana Sutras and fulfill Maitreya's instructions, right? And then your book is also being written in response to the instructions he got from Maitreya.

Why the Abhidharmakosha? His instruction is the Thekchen Gido, right? The Mahayana Sutra.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. Traditionally they say that Arya Sangha told his brother to write the Abhidharmakosha rather than cutting out his tongue.

But now we get the real story. Maitreya is telling him if he wants to meet him and he wants to purify his obstacles, he better write some commentaries to Mahayana Sutras. Now, you can talk to Master Nick about whether any of those Hinayana Sutras might be teaching Mahayana.

Okay, got it. Yeah, that is so wise. I think it's beautiful that all the different schools we are discussing together.

Thank you, Geshe-la. Yeah, it's all the archaeological dig. Thank you.

Thank you, Geshe-la. Thank you very much.