Гибсон Чан — Книга 1: Песнь моей духовной жизни (шаги пути), занятие 20

[Speaker 1]
How's it going? Yeah, everything's good. Good.

You're looking sharp.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
I dressed up for the last day. Yeah. Do you have anything to announce?

I do have some things to announce. Just one second, okay?

[Speaker 2]
Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
So Geshe Michael's going to be a little late today, so special surprise for you. We're going to work on your texts together without him, okay? So I'll kind of like lead the class, but just kind of, we can all work together, you know, and work our way through however much material we cover.

Watch, maybe we'll go super fast. Since we don't know the true answers, you know, we'll just... We'll be super quick.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing your homework and let's do it. Let me share my homework. Can you see my screen?

Yeah. All right. So the first question is, is it possible to cut off the root of psychosuffering by wisdom that's come from going to mixed nut classes and wisdom that comes from reflecting your mind over and over again?

[Speaker 2]
Yes.

[Speaker 1]
Is the word alone implied in there? Yeah. Alone.

Yeah. I'll change my answer from yes to no. Or meditate.

Yeah. So it's not enough. So the answer is you also need a wisdom that comes from doing the meditation, but it doesn't mean you don't need to go to classes and refract what you've done, because you still need a material to meditate on.

Okay. And the practice of meditation, like you said, the material, but you probably mean to practice meditation. Yeah.

Okay. I will change this later. Cool.

The second question is, are there are two kinds of extreme views that are cut off by the short spread of middle ways logical statement, such as neither one or many? And what are those extreme views? And are they misunderstanding things or are they the result of misunderstanding things?

Whoa. Tak and Che? Tak and Che, yes.

And first, is this a misunderstanding thing itself or result of it? Those are the result. The result of misunderstanding.

Because you misunderstand things, you either think they're cut off or you think they're last spread. Yes. So what is the first extreme view in Tibetan?

Cut off. Wait, no. Last forever.

The other one. Yeah. Yeah.

Last forever. So what is the Tibetan?

[Speaker 2]
I don't know.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. So what is the cause of it?

[Speaker 2]
You think just because you think everything exists the way it is.

[Speaker 1]
You think things exist the way they appear. Yeah. Yeah.

You think if things come from their own side and what is the result you will get?

[Speaker 2]
Because things come from the inside, they will always...

[Speaker 1]
They can doubt.

[Speaker 2]
I mean, they are the way they are. You hold the real. Yeah.

Sorry? You hold or you think that things are real, right?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. You think they must be safe for everyone thinking. Okay.

So what is the second view?

[Speaker 2]
Wait, one second though. It's not satisfying.

[Speaker 1]
I'm going to pull a Kramer on you.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. I get it. It is Tak.

And I don't think you're wrong. But I don't think it's that you really think they're unchanging. Because just because you think things are like coming from their own side, you don't necessarily think they're unchanging.

But you definitely think... They must be real. Yeah.

I mean, that doesn't fit into your Tak bait.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, right. The word Tak, right?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, exactly.

[Speaker 1]
But I think that the point is that... I mean, this is what Geshe Michael says, right? Like, you think the ice cream that is going to last forever or something.

So maybe that's the meaning of Tak. Yeah. We do find over and over when people talk about what a self-existent thing would look like.

One of the main things we hear described as is unchanging. That's not particularly comfortable to me. But my not understanding Jetsun Kappa isn't Jetsun Kappa's problem.

I'm working on it. So it is better to say things come from their own side, so they must be real? I don't know.

You might be right. It's better to say what your book says and let us be frustrated about it. It's a great point to discuss.

Okay. Cool. I feel like I've said it a million times.

Yeah, sorry. Yeah. And what are the extreme...

The second one? Oh, Chebeta.

[Speaker 2]
Is that the right spelling word? Isn't it G-C-O?

[Speaker 1]
I think this is right.

[Speaker 2]
It's an O at the end of Taha. That's true.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, I thought it was... Yeah, on Taha. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. On both Taha's. Thank you.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, the S-T-O?

[Speaker 1]
No, but the other end. The other end as well.

[Speaker 2]
The back T-A, not the front T-A.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Easy. You got one on the front end of that second one.

Oh, okay. Great. So what is the cause of this extreme view?

[Speaker 2]
Bad teaching, I think.

[Speaker 1]
Bad teaching, yes. Yeah, right. Thinking that things don't exist.

Yeah, right. No, if things don't come from its own side... Yeah, then it doesn't exist at all.

Yeah, they don't exist at all. Cool. So, oh, wow.

This is the paragraph I grabbed from the Three Principle Path from Pabongkha Rinpoche. And I forgot to pass the translation from Geshe-la, and I will do it later. So it is the antidote for these two extremes.

Yes.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
I love that. Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
That's cool.

[Speaker 1]
What does it say? Okay. Let me see if I can find it.

Give me a minute. Isn't this the paragraph where he says, in order to defeat your view that things last forever, think about interdependence, and in order to defeat your view that things don't exist at all, think about emptiness? And it's...

Yeah, yeah. Well, right? Turn your way, Luke, right?

The position that... Yeah, we say that things don't exist in truth in the system of the middle way. Okay, so here is the translation.

According to the implication system, both extreme thinking things are lasting or real, and the thinking things are stopped, can be prevented with a single logical statement. It cannot exist truly because it is interdependent. And the first part of the statement keeps us from the extreme of thinking things are permanent.

And the second one are real. This is the update translation by Gage Michael. And the second one from the extreme of thinking thing has stopped.

Cool. Yeah. It's way simpler than how I remembered it.

Yeah. So because it is interdependent, so it can stop us from the second extreme. And the first can stop us from the first extreme.

Is this his translation? Yeah, it is translation in the Nangzo Nangsun. Yeah.

Okay. All right. The third question.

What is the definition of the shamatha here given by Jejong Kaba in Chorinamo?

[Speaker 2]
Just to quote an object?

[Speaker 1]
First, yeah, quote an object. And you don't necessarily to do what? The jiva.

Oh, you don't have to analyze it. Great. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Why?

[Speaker 2]
That's the job of Vipashyana. Yes, correct.

[Speaker 1]
Great. So whatever object you choose without any analyzing, just get used to stay on an object single-pointedly. And as Oscar say, the analyzing is mainly Vipashyana.

Yeah. So here is Vipashyana. Here's an interesting Spanish vocabulary.

And I choose some similar word together. So you can frustrate.

[Speaker 2]
That's awesome. That's really smart.

[Speaker 1]
That's wonderful. That's so cool.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
So what is that called? Habituate? Yeah.

Habituate, used to. Yeah. Yeah.

And then now meditation. Meditation. Yeah.

What is it with B-S-T-O-F?

[Speaker 2]
Past tense of meditation. Meditated.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
That's right.

[Speaker 1]
Past tense. All right. So ding-ding.

Single-pointed passage. Yeah. Yeah.

Samadhi. And ngo ding-ding. Ngo ding-ding.

[Speaker 2]
Fresh verdant green like the hill that Geshe-la saw.

[Speaker 1]
Green is very vivid. Bright and vivid. Nice.

So ding-ding is bright and vivid.

[Speaker 2]
Vivid green.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Okay. Duck.

Goose. Uh, Rob, can you read the first one? Goose.

I'm going to stick with duck.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Could you read the first one?

[Speaker 2]
Nangpa.

[Speaker 1]
Uh, no?

[Speaker 2]
No. Oh, gong?

[Speaker 1]
Nangpa, nangpa, yes.

[Speaker 2]
Nangpa?

[Speaker 1]
Nangpa, yeah. So what is the nangpa? The duck.

The goose. Okay, what is the nangpa?

[Speaker 2]
The way, a particular way something is or its essence or something like that?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, uh, I think it's a condition.

[Speaker 2]
Yes.

[Speaker 1]
In like. Uh, state, state, yeah. Yeah, and this doesn't, uh, this word doesn't show in my text, but it is in shopping stack, I think so, in this morning.

So what is the nangpa?

[Speaker 2]
A polite request or something like that? Polite?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, you are correct for the polite request. But, uh, it's.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, polite. Oh, yeah. I think it's a verbalizer to various polite things.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, okay.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
So now it's very.

[Speaker 2]
Appear.

[Speaker 1]
Difficult to see. Appear, appear. Cool.

Okay, here's. Yeah, it's really fun. Wow, you make such good quizzes, Gibson.

You're really pushing us to step it up.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, that's right.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, take it. You can take it down. Oh, past tense.

And without the S is future tense. Okay.

[Speaker 2]
Cool.

[Speaker 1]
Good, you know. Cool. Okay.

All right. Nice. Here's the translation.

And I have one thing need to be confirmed. Because in the last class, the root text is mentioned about the. Without the S.

But in the commentary. Say, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so.

So what do you think about it? It's. We have to look at the context.

We have to look at the context, man, to see. Yeah. It's supposed to be a realization or.

You know, or potentially incorrect. Okay. All right.

Let's see. To. forward.

What's the section? I mean, did you do a translation already? Yeah, this one is the section that I did.

So this is the one we have. Can I ask, you did two gopher searches, each for Sosoto near Chippa. How close to Chippa?

Yeah, here's my result. How close? Within how many lines?

How many lines? One line. Oh, within one line.

And you got way more for idea than you got for realization. Yeah. Yeah.

Our friend, Eva Natanya, always told me to remember which one has the SOS because you get more from a realization.

[Speaker 2]
I'm actually in a meeting, but I want to pick up.

[Speaker 1]
Mute, mute, word. Cool. So that's...

Is it related to the noise and go deeper in the supermarkets? When you listen to the rock and roll music? That's a different...

Oh, that's actually different. Okay. It uses the same words, though.

Okay. Oh, wait, I see. I see what you're saying.

Solution to Chippayi Sosoto. Because Vittaka and Vichara is Tokche, right? And what's the other one?

Vittaka is Tokche and Namche. Vittaka is Namche and Vittaka is Tokche. Tokche is this one or this one?

I think it's that one. Yeah, the lower one. Yeah, Vittaka is without the sound.

But I don't think this is the same idea here. I don't think so. Solution to Chippayi.

Because last time, I think Geshe-la has mentioned this idea when he translated this paragraph. Yeah. But I can ask him later.

[Speaker 2]
Probably a better idea. Cool.

[Speaker 1]
And DT, thank you very much for your help. I got a nice translation. So let me choose.

Oscar, do you want to read the Tibetan? Yes, thank you. And okay, I read the translation.

So once you see meaning, you understand that you can get yourself into the concentration, which stays totally firm and unwavering on the object. That is the way things are. Then make totally awesome, meaning absolutely heroic effort to actually achieve not just one of stillness and spatial insight, but rather the combination of it.

So in this part, we are in the perfection of wisdom. And the perfection of wisdom, we have the three paths, I guess. So the first one is how to meditate on wisdom.

The second one is how to combine stillness and spatial insight, which is the shamatha and vipashyana together. And the third is how to keep in the meditation and aftermath when you conduct the meditation. So we are now in the second section, how to combine the stillness and spatial insight.

So give it to you, Nick. Boss, do you have any comment about it? Let's all look at it and see.

I'm just trying to see if I think you missed anything. It's like, my first glance is that it looks really good. I have one comment about the English, personally, that Upala might or might not agree with.

But I'm just trying to see if you missed anything. I can't tell. What do you guys think?

Yindukidun is the way things are. Yeah, yeah. La, that is.

Yowa me par shintu tempa. So you're saying stays totally firm and unwavering, great. Tingzin kipar nepa, concentration.

Yeah, you can bring about that sort of a concentration. Yeah, get yourself into is what he's, right? Yeah, that you can, right?

I have the question here. If this lo means the mind or the intelligent wisdom? I would say you see with your, I guess you could say it either way, right?

What did you say? My thinking was that the root text says tong, tong ne. And so lo was his way of explaining what he means by tong ne.

He's saying lo, meaning tong ne, like you see in the verse. So I took it as with your mind. Yeah.

Is that part reflected in the English? I don't see it. Yeah, meaning once you see tong ne, meaning you understand lo.

Oh, well, there it is. Yeah, I see. And once you see, yeah, you have to put with your mind.

Oh, you put with.

[Speaker 2]
Well, no, tong ne is the see.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, right. But what's the lo? Oh, you understand.

Right, I see. Oh, no, I don't. Meaning you understand.

Oh, no, I see. I didn't see that before. Oh, but I wouldn't.

Yeah, I don't know if I don't know if he's like. Would you would you would you use a suffix like that to. That was my understanding is that lo and tong ne are equivalent lo, meaning mind with an s at the end, meaning mind is the thing doing the thing.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
He's explaining it saying comes from seeing ne comes from tong seeing. I got the sense he was saying those two were equivalent and he's explaining tong ne with lo. That's what Geshe-la said.

And he said it was a little awkward, but legal or something like that. OK. Awesome.

Nice. So it's a lo and a suffix that indicate the region. I think so, yes.

Yeah, that's that's how I took. I literally says see with your mind, but I think the way you did it is more correct and more intelligent. All right.

Awesome. Yeah, you do that. We have to go a little slower because none of us are Geshe's.

Oh, and I think ne here is not, I think it's not from seeing. I think it's rather than, right? Or is it rather than just that?

No, the ne and tong ne?

[Speaker 2]
Oh, well, yeah. She-hlaq-ni-le, right?

[Speaker 1]
From those two, from she and hlaq, from she-ne and hlaq-tong, from shamata and from vipashyana, from those two, the just the one which is she-ne, chok-re-tsam-mayin, not mayin, not just-tsam, chok-re, the one of those which is keeping yourself on that object, not just that alone would suffice. Yeah. Oh, that's the one I'm studying.

Yeah. Yeah, but that's interstitial. That's explaining the tong ne, she-hlaq-ne.

Right. So the le is actually, because the golden key was like this, and it's like awkward, and even in Tibetan, the le is the ne again. It's a ne, she-hlaq, ne.

Yeah, yeah, between these two. Yeah, between these two, meaning not from just one of those. Yeah.

But I agree with you. It's between tong ne and she-hlaq, right? Cool.

Yeah. So the translation is pretty sassy, right? That's one of the stillness, and especially in Saiparela, the combination of them.

Yeah, I might just say not just either or something, but yeah, the English is a little clunky, maybe because the person that you foolishly asked to help you a little bit may have been clunky in explaining themselves, hypothetically speaking. I like the one better than either. How about either one?

Because it seems... Okay, either one. What do you think, Upala?

Well, you would change the and to or, stillness or special insight. Uh-huh. Cool.

I talked about her. I think it should be clunky, because the Tibetan is clunky. Yeah, yeah.

That's true. I think at the end of these texts, the Tibetan is getting harder and harder. I don't know why.

I would take out the one of altogether. It's not just either stillness or special insight, but rather the combination. Yeah.

Have only one? No, I would take out one of. Put either back and take out one of, yeah.

Yeah. Upala, what do you think about... I think you could kill it, that one.

Yeah, you can get rid of that of. Yeah. Hand you the forward.

Not just either stillness or special insight. Yeah. You can press function delete to delete forward.

Seiji taught me that. Yeah, great. Yeah, so do this one.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
What do you think about after the word awesome, either a comma, like awesome, comma, meaning absolutely heroic efforts, comma or dashes like Geshe Michael does? Yeah, I would use dashes here because there are so many commas. And I don't know what font you've got in that comma after R, but it's not like the rest of them.

Wow, that's why you're... Everybody, you're seeing Upala's special talent in action. And then there's another one after C in the first line.

I see it now that you just brought it up. Are they just bold? They could be.

It's hard for me to tell on the screen. I think it is bold because the bold looks like it's highlighted, right? You guys have to unbold those two commas, Gibson.

Unbold those two commas? Oh, no, this one? Yeah.

Upala's not going to let you get away with that comma, dude. Yeah, no way. Okay.

She probably sees stuff in your spaces too, but she's just not saying it. And then the M dash would come between heroic and efforts.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the second one.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, there you go. Because awesome. Yeah, nice.

Yeah. Now that looks done right, Kishimai Cleon. It sure does.

I use the hell out of those M dashes once you... Well, then you could be parallel and add the M dashes after in the first line, after C and after understand. That way you've got the meaning and meaning.

Parallel. Nice. Clever.

They almost line up. Yeah. That's a nice paragraph now.

Yeah, that's your art. Yeah. Okay, cool.

Should we go to the next one? Let's do it. All right.

Sorry, we're slow, dude. That's okay, I can do it. You paid for a geshe and yet you're stuck with us.

Hey, but compared to five years ago, this is lightning fast. Okay, Lindsey. Thank you.

Thank you.

[Speaker 2]
Good.

[Speaker 1]
Great. Yeah, I think Lindsey is a great name, right? Because one of the geshes degrees Lindsey.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's Lindsey, right? Yeah, Lindsey.

Lindsey, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Geshe Michael's geshe. Right.

Yeah, cool. Okay, so I will read the English. The reason you need the combination of stillness and spatial sight is for meditating, staying single point, focus on your own object, but also just achieving the stillness while achieving spatial insight brings the conviction that comes with staying perfectly single point.

Then the power of analyze can bring you the bliss of practice ease. Yeah, man.

[Speaker 2]
Wow.

[Speaker 1]
Let's look at it again. You translated day as conviction. Somebody tried that.

[Speaker 2]
Sorry, day.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, right. That's cool.

[Speaker 1]
Do you want to walk us through piece by piece justify? There we go. What happened here?

That would be cool. Okay. It looks like your own object.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, totally.

[Speaker 1]
Your own object around your own object. Yeah, so what is doom here means? You directed the mind.

Single point. Yeah, great. For meditating.

Well, that's right. It should be habituating, not meditating, right? Right.

Once you get used to staying single pointedly. Totally agree, Una. Yeah.

Staying single pointed. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, we will need to, but let's see where it goes. Okay.

Yeah. Getting. Yeah, yeah.

It's forgetting. Move here because I struggle a lot because I think these two are supposed to be a chunk, like seeing a heart on true and the moon here is wild. Admittedly.

[Speaker 2]
Admittedly, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Well, I don't know that it isn't admittedly here, is it? I can make it work. Admittedly.

You need to add and move that, right? Let me check.

[Speaker 2]
I took it as while.

[Speaker 1]
It can be while or as when it's with a verb. Yeah. Yeah.

When it's with a verb, it can mean like right after or immediately. Right. Yeah, so while could be.

Or. Or just. I took it.

Yeah. Oh, because. Exactly.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, you've.

[Speaker 1]
Just. She may. You achieve.

Yeah, or maybe even simultaneous, right? I think. Should be simultaneous, I think.

Yeah, it can't be simultaneous. That's impossible. Is it?

It's impossible to have at the same time as. It's impossible to achieve. At the same time as achieving.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, I don't know if that's true. Why is that?

[Speaker 1]
Because if you just achieve. And you need to achieve. Then you can't have achieved.

I think there are. We'll see, you know, but I think there are. I feel like I remember three types of flock tongue.

And one of them is like the. They said the hot tongue that comes from analysis. So like you analyze an object.

And then the hot tongue is settling into. She may. On that object that you have arrived at through analysis.

I don't know if this is right. That's the definition. That's the definition of hot tongue in.

Course two or course one. Yeah. Is that it?

You know, hot tongue is based on. And that's what I'm saying. You need it to then achieve it.

Maybe until you have shamatai. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

We'll see. The reason you need the combination of those is special. It's for getting used to staying.

Uh, where, what are you translating as the reason? Because I didn't get that far yet, but. That's tough, right?

Nope. Yeah, no. Oh, there we go.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And having to do that. Yeah, I see.

Yeah, because this is paragraph is the section is the necessity. Why we need to come by the. He named hot tongue.

That's the second, right? But I don't appreciate the combination of stillnesses. Yeah, so you get one and then you get the other or you get them together.

And then did some just those two. Chok part, say cheek, perfectly single pointed or biasedly single pointed. Nash nation staying.

There's that. What did we call it? Present perfect.

No, present continuous. Yeah, yeah. Nation by staying single pointedly in the highest way.

Chok par. The faith of staying single pointedly. Yeah.

Is it right? He said that comes with, which is, I think, pretty cool. Yeah, that was, yeah, hard.

Yeah, maybe. Do you have to have the chutzpah to stick it out or something? I don't know.

Conviction here. Maybe it's kind of like technical term, like they use a technical way for meditation. Yeah, it's not a particular.

Yeah, right. Like maybe, like, or by the Xinjiang, if you have the beliefs of a particular is that you will develop a faith. This jump here is the cost of the results.

The result. That's, yeah, that would be the result of the faith, right? Okay.

Well, actually, it's the power analysis. Yeah, the power of the analysis comes from the faith. And then the other thing results from the, sorry, the Xinjiang results from the power of the analysis.

Did you say that? Okay. You did say that.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, the bliss practices. Yeah. Did you include Drenner?

Drenner brings you? Drenner can bring? Brings, yeah.

I think, yeah, maybe. Yeah, can bring. Able to.

Yeah, able to bring. But Dren isn't to bring. What is that word?

I mean, not, at least not literally, you know, we could translate it that here. I mean, Dren is the opposite to pull. You bring it to you.

You know what I'm saying? It doesn't bring you. You bring it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that's what he was saying. Does the, well, hopefully the agent, right?

Marked by the key, right? Does the, does the power of analysis do the Drenning? Is it what is able to Dren bring?

Gibson distributed it.

[Speaker 2]
I'll say.

[Speaker 1]
Right, Gibson? Yeah. He put it in both places.

Oh, I don't know. So it's, it's Yes. Right.

Okay, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I would change that.

I can too. How powerful the face is. Yeah.

I agree with that about Upala. Has the ability to, is he able to? Yeah.

Yeah, let me rephrase. And so the power of the face are able to bring down the Xinjiang? No, the power of analysis brings Xinjiang.

Yeah. Which that seems to either come from or come after at least. Depa.

Yeah, after. Certainly after probably from. Yeah.

Yeah. There's a, there's a from there. Yeah.

They can show progression in time, but it seems to imply from. Yeah. Yeah.

Like that instead of with staying perfectly single-pointed to be comes from. Yeah. I'm wondering about the end, the necessity, right?

Yes. With the dong there. Yeah, that's cool.

You know, I like, I mean, I like what Gibson did. It makes sense. I'm just, because he basically put at the front, right?

The reason you need, right? That's the right.

[Speaker 2]
Right.

[Speaker 1]
If there's a tongue there. So. I'm just curious about the best way to distribute it because.

With the shay after knee. The Tay and everything after it, I think should be a separate thought. And not distributed to the front, you know, necessarily.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, yes.

[Speaker 1]
To bring out the meaning of the. This practice. Exactly.

Like there's, yeah, I think it's only in the second part or something like that. Yeah, I totally agree. I, I always keep it within this, within the same shape.

Yeah. What is, what is the dong doing then? And I really don't understand the dong even a little.

Um, I don't know. I mean, the trend is the verb for the second section, right? And then able to, and that's, and that, and that's the reason.

I think it's like a little bit and, and that's why we do that. And that's, yeah, that could be like, that could be like a wrap up tongue. They have.

[Speaker 2]
Anyway.

[Speaker 1]
Interesting. Cool. Cool.

[Speaker 2]
So I don't know. I'm just, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Same hard, hard. Same. Are you guys ready to explore the unknown?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Wait, hold on. Oh, okay. Okay.

I think that, I think that word made a really good point that you might want to consider taking the reason you need to the second part. And that, that whole first thing before the comma before the knee is its own sentence. That's saying something like, you know, the combination of stillness and special insight is for getting used to staying single pointedly focused on your object.

Yeah. Okay. Right on.

Okay. So you'll work on it later is the point. Yeah.

Some mystery boys say it's a misspelling. Second one.

[Speaker 2]
Oh.

[Speaker 1]
That sounds like Michael. Hey, we're saying. Okay.

Big difference. So. So not allowed.

We're not. Oh boy. That's cruel.

Wow. We are undone. That changes things.

So it isn't sufficient to do just that. Oh, okay. Cool.

And then you don't need this clunky, like, perfectly single pointed. You could just say single pointed. You know, it's not like you're holding even less of one point and doing it better.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Cool. Okay. Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Oh.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, my God. It was even a vocabulary word that you gave us today. Oh, my God.

I'm on juicery. It's whispering in your ear. Wow.

Probably. I think I see a dog paw on your collar. Goose.

All right. Well, then. Yeah.

Any other changes that need to be made before we try this again? No, no, no. It's Odo.

So how can we translate that? You don't need any conviction. You don't need any conviction to achieve shamatha.

So Shinpei Kang, then, is what? Shinpei Kang? A name.

[Speaker 2]
Shinpei. Ngan.

[Speaker 1]
Is. So you should have the power to develop the faith in any condition. No, you should know faith.

Faith is not there. No, get rid of the essence. Oh, analyze, analyze.

Yeah, you should. Yeah. Yeah.

Does it have something to do with this being in the stream of being single pointed? The power of having analyzed the essence while staying, you know, in single on it, single pointedly. Yeah, exactly.

Okay, cool.

[Speaker 2]
All right. Wow.

[Speaker 1]
And that's why we got the geshe. So what does that dog paw say about the dong there before? Yeah.

Then how much of this does that apply to? See if you can ask the sky and see if the guy holding the chalk up there can tell you. Hard none.

Chalk is still on the air. So about this one. Okay.

The voice is shut down.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, no. Karma.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, cool. Okay, let's go to the translation. Okay.

Okay, I'm going to take a few. I'm sorry, but I need to just take like two minutes at the end to do a couple. Thank you.

Okay, that's okay. I know you don't wrap up.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
All right. But the boss is here. He deserves your help.

You deserve his help. Absolutely.

[Speaker 2]
All right.

[Speaker 1]
That was really fun. And I hope we don't have to do that again soon. Yeah, great.

That was really fun. Your homework was awesome, too. That was like one of the best homeworks ever.

Thank you. Okay, here. So I believe here is a teaching from the sky.

And somebody is this one. Meaning the meditation. And after the meditation, how can you keep.

Here is the keep those two. Yeah, I think so. And here is the line start with the deep meditation and the sky.

Okay. Nick, could you read the first Tibetan? Okay.

Okay, I think we can manage this paragraph, right? That's what you think. I rejoice that you think that.

Okay, that's right. That's right. Give it a shot.

Okay, means to put to focus on, right? To focus on the deep meditation on the object of the suchness. Yeah, I think that together is a phrase.

Yeah, it's a positive. Is his explanation of he's expanding it for clarity. Yeah, okay.

How can you translate these two? That's a really good question. Yeah, it's really hard to translate.

He's meditating. Meditation means the deep meditation. Yeah, you have to think of two creative ways to say it.

Like that are really similar to each other. Oh, it could be like being in deep meditation, meaning balanced equipose or balanced meditation. Being in deep meditation on the meaning of suchness.

Okay. Right? Yeah.

And then you've got your gacca. Yeah, gacca. So this guy is and this guy is the similar meaning, right?

They both mean the stop. Gacca is a noun here and the kappa is a verb. Okay.

So we should empty the. Gacca, he's glossing. He's glossing ton.

Namka tabui tongni. So he's describing.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, what is emptiness?

[Speaker 1]
That's like the sky. Yeah, like the empty sky itself. Yeah.

And he's saying that it's like denying true existence, which is the object we deny or something like that.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
The true existence, which is the object that we deny. Okay, the true existence, the object we deny. I would say he's denying the object.

He's a different word for deny, but he's right. We're like stopping the object we deny. Yeah.

Which is true existence. Yeah, I don't know. Realizing the truth of the gacca.

Um. By that stopping or something like that. Somehow he's making a metaphor here that like the sky, like a clear blue sky, where there's not a single cloud in the sky that in this meditation, there's not a single thing which is real.

Okay. So how do you think and don't need empty sky? Um.

Yeah, emptiness, which is like the sky or something like that. Empty, empty.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
I mean, you're gonna have to make a nice decision on it for the root text and make it poetic and then state that poetic thing in the verse. Yeah. Does it say Tong Panyi in the root text or just Tong Panyi?

Let me see. Tong Panyi. Oh, Tong Panyi in the first line.

Then later it says Tong Panyi like to emptiness. That's interesting. To him.

Yeah, maybe they just want to make a beat meter. Well, yeah. So Tong Panyi.

[Speaker 2]
No, because it said, it's saying Namka and Vyuma. Those two. Right.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. Uh, yeah, it's Namshak and Jeto. It's those two.

Negative one minute warning. Oh, okay. So the sky is also open the voice to me.

Namka here, they say they have a full kind of space, not necessarily to the sky.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
What is the full kind of space?

[Speaker 2]
Um, space that.

[Speaker 1]
Free of obstruction.

[Speaker 2]
That's one of them. I was, yeah, free of obstruction, like the sky. Like, uh.

[Speaker 1]
And the space between me and the computer or. I think that's one of the. Space like emptiness.

Yeah. Okay, guys. Like James Kirk's Final Frontier.

[Speaker 2]
Or that.

[Speaker 1]
We are over time. Okay. So I think we.

Can you do a wrap up? That takes us two minutes into the past. I think I've been the most important here.

We just want to emphasize that it's really important to combine the. Combine the shamatha and vipashyana. And here we are going to the section that how to keep your practice during the deep meditation after the meditation.

And here. Here we mentioned about a metaphor like you should empty like the space. And you deny the truth.

The thing. How to say it. Nick.

The object. We didn't. I don't know how we're going to say it yet, but we.

Stop the objective that we that we deny true existence. Okay. Yeah.

Okay, cool. Yeah. And we almost get to the end.

After after this paragraph, we will go into the path, which is not shared. And maybe one or two paragraph is mentioned about the secret teaching. And after the secret teaching, we will go to the conclusion.

And that will be the book. Please text.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Hope to see you in the next term. Exciting.

Cool. Hold on one second, guys. Don't leave.

I'm just going to say thank you to a few people real quick. And then we'll take a five minute break before Adam's class. So because we're in case you weren't aware, this term is going to be over soon.

We're winding down and it's sad. And it also means you can rest your head and give some time to absorb these ideas. So it is a few people that I just want to say a special thank you to right now.

And then we'll do some more. Thank you later. First of all, word for volunteering and making it happen that all these people study Tibetan in the mornings, our mornings.

And you're getting up really early to do it. And I thank you a few times. But I really mean it.

And we appreciate it. We Mixed Nuts appreciate it. And the people that you're teaching, I'm sure, appreciate it very, very much.

And I see all the flowers they put in the chat. So where's my pizza? You're not getting it.

What's your address? I'll have one delivered. Thanks, Nick.

My pleasure. It was fun. Thank you all still students.

Yeah. And he told me before he'll never do it again. I'm just kidding.

He's happy. Thank you. Keep doing it.

It's really it's amazing. And it's and you see the progress. So it's really great.

Also, all the yoga teachers, if any of you are here. You guys for sharing yoga. Thank you.

Especially is Venerable Jigme there. Is Geshe Michael there? It sounded like he was.

I heard him. I see him on. Well, I won't give up.

Who has their camera pointed at him because I don't want them to stop. But they're both there. Venerable Jigme, thank you for driving Geshe Michael.

And thank you for being you in all the amazing ways that you are you. And particularly relating to these workshops. Thank you for driving Geshe Michael as it helps him prepare for our classes.

And I want to thank the Mixed Nuts. Utpala does an incredible amount of work that none of you know about. Even the Mixed Nuts.

I don't know if you know how much work she does. But besides just editing our books, she also archives all our stuff. And make sure books are in a place where we can find them when we need them.

And people's translations are in a place where we can find them. And compilations of bibliographies and footnotes and many other things. So she just works harder than almost anyone I know.

So thank you for being part of our group. And you make it possible. So once again, you're not fired.

What I mean is, please stay. And please keep working with us. And please keep because we need you really bad.

And Ben, if Ben and I didn't work together, I don't think we'd get anything done. So Ben once said that I'm the other part of his mind or something. I feel like we are that for each other.

So just thank you. And he also works really hard to do the finances and all this stuff that we need done. Like paying ourselves.

And it's not fun. And he spends a lot of time in meetings and doing things he doesn't want to do. But to keep this going.

I mean, he wants to do it. But he'd probably rather be translating or something. And Tim, you run a hotel that helps us keep working and getting paid.

And you found a tech team and put them together. And you do a million other things. And you're ready at the drop of a hat to help out in a million ways.

And thank you for doing that. It's amazing. And I can't thank you enough.

But the tech team, priceless. The hotel, priceless. And you're getting good at Tibetan.

It's great to have you on board. Adam, you have been helping to make the Tohoku become something that is more than just a catalog. Sitting there very soon, we are going to finally have all of the works of the Tohoku catalog input into the database in a way that's organized and that's made possible by Adam.

Pulling it together to get these texts organized in a way that we can work on them. And your translations are also getting amazing. Stanley and Allison started this thing called Pure Gold.

That's an unbelievable thing that you did. I think you're going to have a billion lifetimes of, well, you probably don't have to, but of happiness. That's pure gold.

Cool. Let's just thank Pure Gold right now. Pure Gold translation team.

This is a group of, it looks like about 40 people that basically volunteer to translate everything that Worldview does. I think they're getting paid, I hope. But anyway, they work super hard.

However much they're getting paid is not enough. Because some of us speak really fast and don't make it easy for them. But the work that you do for all of our organizations, and especially for MixedNuts, because we're probably the most challenging, is amazing.

You guys are unbelievable. And you're the world's greatest heroes. Thank you for being so patient with us and for translating us and helping to get these ideas to spread in parts of the world where we otherwise would have no chance.

Thank you so much, Pure Gold. And thank you, Stanley and Allison, for starting Pure Gold. And for also being such enthusiastic and awesome translators.

And Sugeng, I want to thank you for your hard work as well. Always ready to jump in and help quickly with anything that needs to be done. And you're always smiling and having a good time and laughing.

And I often have no idea what you're laughing at. But I'm glad that you are. And also doing the hardest books.

Your books are the hardest for me. And TangTang and Gibson, I don't know what to thank you for besides just being so smart and making such good homeworks and pushing the MixedNuts to a higher level because you both came on late and you're just so darn smart. It's terrible, but awesome at the same time.

And special thanks to Oscar for doing all of our homework for us. Thank you, Hasso, for bringing snacks and also being so smart. And Hasso also runs the MixedNuts Reading Club.

Thank you for that. That's really awesome. I encourage everyone here to go to the MixedNuts Reading Club.

They have one in Spanish on Mondays and in English on alternating between Tuesdays and Thursdays. Go to the Diamond Cutter Classics website for more information. It's really fun.

We sit together and discuss the philosophy in texts. Now I want to offer a special thanks to Seiji for always being awesome and being a huge source of support for the MixedNuts and helping us to spread the ideas that we generate here. And also Seiji and DCI for sponsoring the dinners for Geshe Michael during this.

Also helping to sponsor things for the MixedNuts in general that you guys don't know about. And Noor for making dinners or coordinating them. I want to thank Choni Lama for writing half of the books that we translate.

And then really I just want to thank all of the other people who joined the classes. You guys for coming. And that's it for now because there's a few more thank yous later.

Thank you guys. Let's take like a five-minute break and then we'll jump into Adam's class. And everybody thank Nick.

Right, Nick works so hard and you guys don't know all the miserable things he has to do for us. And he takes a beating. And it's nice that he gives me credit for supporting him.

But because he is the boss there are plenty of times where I say, I'm sorry this is why you're the boss and I'm going to stick you with this one. And he has a lot to do that has not enough to do with translating or working on the catalog or the joyful work that we all get to do. And he does it joyfully because he believes in this mission.

And yeah, you do a pretty good job. I mean amazingly tirelessly when I'm beaten up and I'm not willing to go on any longer. And even when he's tired he props one eye open with a toothpick and does the work that needs to be done.

And it's heroic. And I see it. I think I get to see a lot more of it than anyone else gets to see.

And it's inspiring. It's so inspiring. I don't know.

Yeah, it's an honor to see how much you're willing to do. Thanks. It's cool, buddy.

All right. Thank you. Don't worry other people who I didn't thank.

I didn't forget about you. You're coming later. We didn't.

Thank you, Ben. Thank you, everybody. Thank you.

All right. Let's take a little break. And five minutes.

[Speaker 2]
Let's come back at 43. Okay. Thanks.

Okay.