Бен Крамер — Книга 2: Драгоценность истинной мысли (Геше Йеше Вангчук о Дхармакирти), занятие 22

[Speaker 1]
Fine. Recording in progress. According to our author, what was it about the difference between non-Buddhist and Buddhist teachings that swayed Master Dharmakirti from one to the other?

Although grandpa doesn't have to do the homework, right? The logic? You don't got to do nothing.

Yes, that's a nice one-word answer that is correct. But you might as well paint it out to be clear for others. But clearly you have demonstrated your understanding.

[Speaker 3]
They have so many, they had so many reasons.

[Speaker 1]
Who did?

[Speaker 3]
The Buddhists had so many reasons and the non-Buddhists did not.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, right. I like it. What metaphor did he use to describe the difference between the two?

You guys, you're on microphone. Why are they? Golden brass?

You're on microphone. Yeah, golden brass. In Tibetan?

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, cool.

[Speaker 1]
Great. I like it. Right, he saw the teachings of the Buddha were supported by endless logical proofs, whereas the non-Buddhist teachings wandered and wavered without any such logic to support them.

Yay! Yay, wandering, wavering. How did Master Dharmakirti show his devotion to the teachings of the Buddha prior to having an opportunity to meet any Buddhist teachers in person?

And how did that go for him? Dressed up like a monk? No, sort of.

[Speaker 3]
A lay person with a vows.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, right. Yeah, totally right. Which, right.

He dressed up like a holder of lifetime lay person vows. And how did that work out for him? His dad had the same response my dad did.

I'm so sorry. My dad also.

[Speaker 3]
He kicked him out.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, yeah, that's true. Yeah, right. He was tossed out by his father and his Brahmin buddies.

Uh, let's see. How did Master Dharmakirti respond to being thrown out of his Brahmin home? Yay!

Yeah, right. And he was into it, right? He was super into it.

Like a pine tree jumping into the pool. Yeah, specifically they said that he had a big old smile on his face.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
What metaphor does our author use to describe Master Dharmakirti's feelings about the matter? Tibetan phrase. Yeah, someone said duck.

He felt like a duck that got thrown into a lake covered in lotuses. Yeah, that's nice. Which is a pretty easy and cute Tibetan phrase.

[Speaker 3]
Padso. Something like that.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, you missed the lotus part, but yes. No, I said it padso. Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.

Great, great, great. I didn't hear you. Wonderful.

Yeah, nangpa padso or jukpa thrown into as it were, but it's good. Great. Well, that was easy.

And then this is hard. Boss, you didn't officially give me an assignment. I grabbed the next few.

That was wise. Okay. Okay, now the question is, how can I correct that and eat pizza at the same time?

If anyone can find a way. All right, here we go. I'm going to read.

Good. Good. Mm.

You're making me hungry, Geshe-la. Friday night before the last day of class, we decided to have a pizza party. That's good, good.

I'm so glad to hear it. Thank you for the donor. And.

Oh, okay, good. Yeah, no. Okay, here.

[Speaker 2]
Please.

[Speaker 1]
Deership is good. You translated that well, and it's very difficult. Oh, thank you.

But the question that he asked was Loma Sushuk. Oh, yeah. Okay, right.

All right, where are they hanging out at? Where do I find a student? Yeah, I was about 50-50 there.

Yeah, good, yeah. Where can I find any students of Dignaga? Okie dokie.

Dignaga was no longer available, right? Okay, right. All right, where do I find, right.

So he went about asking where he, where all the students of Dignaga were hanging out at. And thus, he came to go hang out at the place where Ishvara Sena was. Now, this shuk might mean who's still alive.

Fascinating. And then he came that Lopan Ishvara Sena. Cool, he heard Ishvara Sena was still around.

Yeah, and so this jar means, yeah, he went to present himself to that master and requested a teaching on his companion. Good, very good translation. I'm going to struggle here.

It's going to go on. I'm struggling, especially in this, I haven't done, in this biographical material about liberal repetitive usage of the word master, which English being a fundamentally disrespectful language, probably. It feels unwieldy in English, but I don't know, it'll come up.

You know, I personally don't object that you refer to a high Lama first, in the first few times, maybe once or twice as master.

[Speaker 3]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
And then after that, you drop it for a while and you bring it back every once in a while.

[Speaker 3]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
I agree with you. English prefers the disrespectful voice. Well, I just think it sounds cloying if you keep it.

It does. Yeah, right. Okay, cool.

All right. I will, I'll tweak that. I may cloy a bit over the course of these next few.

Cool. Okay. I love this translation.

Okay, good. Good. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it's perfect. Just one suggestion. The dynamic going on in this section is delicate, super delicate.

[Speaker 3]
Yes.

[Speaker 1]
You have a student correcting his master, which is very, very delicate. And the author is careful to use honorific in their interaction of the student towards the master. Right.

So you have to reflect the shoe. Sikh also, right? Not so much Sikh.

Okay. That's a word that puts up Dharmakirti, but does not denigrate Ishvara Sena, okay? So the shoe is somehow, it's honorific towards his master?

It's not, but it's- No, he respectfully reported his opinion. Oh, that's nice. I see.

And that's what shoe means to pro. And it's high honorific for, he respectfully, you know, politely, quietly, at a good time when his teacher was in a good mood and just had his pizza. Cool.

I think maybe there's some boo-boos in what you're saying. Right, but he waited till the pizza party to bring it up. Well, I mean, it's important to take a moment when it's convenient for the teacher.

Yes. Okay, good. Okay, last bit.

Here, I'll move this. Now, there's a lot of Lopans running around here. Boy.

Oh yeah, you got it right. Overjoyed from the bottom of his heart. Said to Dharmakirti, colon.

Good. Two spaces after... I myself never saw such subtleties.

Yeah. Yeah. JI ZHING MA NYE means, I didn't get them straight.

Yeah, you see what I mean? Okay, JI ZHING MA NYE. As they were, as they were.

So, I didn't get them straight. Or, you know, you can find a more polite way to say it. Okay.

Yeah. MA NYE PA'I DUS PA'I, DUS PA'I SNONG PA'I THAMS CAD KYIS KYI CHOS SHING Nice. NYE KHRAS RANG RANG, CHOG RNGA RANG STE I was thinking about this line.

I was preparing for class in the car. So I prepared twice. I usually, I prepare slowly in the three or four weeks before the next month.

And it takes me three or four weeks. and then I forget everything and I reread it in the car just before the class, which is a good strategy. NGES KYI LANG LANG, CHOG NA LANG.

So, CHOG NA LANG. I suddenly understood it today. And it means, you be the NGA'GUL.

Oh, fascinating. So, you be the opponent against my position? Yeah, I'll be the dumb guy in the debate.

You be the NGA'GUL, which is the attacker. So, you play the attacker and I'll play the defender. And I wanted you to SUNG YUN my opinions.

I want you to rip them up. Like SUNG YUN, where's the famous example of SUNG YIN PA in our teachings? SUNG YIN PA'I THO.

Yeah, which means? The power of not doing dumb stuff again. It's called the power of absolute destruction.

It also means to rape somebody. Yeah. Okay, it's a very, very violent word.

And now the teacher is telling the student, you play the attacker and you rape my ideas. Okay, it's like unbelievable. Maybe it shows he didn't make such a big mistake.

Anyway, then you can, by writing your own commentary on the compendium after your perception. Perfect. Very, very, very beautiful.

That's the Lama granted permission. Yeah, just on that last sentence again, the Tibetan is loaded with honorifics. So, yeah, he proceeded having been granted permission to tear down his teacher's idea.

KA means the holy word of his teacher. NANG MA, he was granted. TSEL DO, that was the high words of his teacher.

So, there's three honorifics in the last half a sentence. Okay. You know, the author's trying to soften...

who's the author? Geshe Wangchuk is trying to soften this story. It's extremely rare.

Maybe you see it once or twice in all of Buddhist... all the books I've ever read. It's extremely rare that there will be any indication that the student corrected the master.

Geshe-la, would you like add a footnote there? Maybe not put in all the honorifics, but make a footnote that they're there in the original? No, I think it's...

Why? I think it's part of the translator's duty to reflect the spirit of what's being said. So, I think it's...

and Ben is creative enough to... Oh, yeah, that's true. Ben is creative enough to translate this in a way that the reader gets a strong sense that the disciple has taken every possible way to be respectful in his correction of his teacher.

And, you know, that's very important with this, yeah. It's also important to warn students, when you teach this book, that, you know, this is not normal, and something else was probably going on. Okay.

It's like those advices that you should eliminate enemies of the Dharma. I mean, like, there's a lot of clarification necessary. All right.

Nice job. Very nice job. Thank you.

You're in your new house, right? Oh, it sounds empty. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yeah, she sounds a little like, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's giddy about it, yeah. Amelie, do you like your new house?

[Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Good. Your dad and mom worked so hard to give you a nice house. Yeah.

You're so lucky.

[Speaker 2]
I was crying when she went to yoga.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, you were crying when she went to yoga. Yeah, sure. Ezra does, too, sometimes.

I cry every time I have to go to yoga. I got water in my eyes when I was playing in the bath. Oh, when you're playing in the bath, you got water in your eyes.

Yeah, that's common. All right, back to work, guys. Just don't stop.

Thank you. Yeshua, like, wouldn't you give, like, at least, like, today, modern advice, I guess, that you would give would be to try to eliminate the deficiencies in, like, your own heart before you went to that step? There's going to be more coming, Rob.

Yeah. Our author's not done with his philosophizing on this subject. Let's see if you're satisfied by the end that he's been careful enough to talk about this subject, okay?

But it is a very delicate thing. Where are we? Where the verses start, I believe.

Just a little lower. A little lower. There it is.

Okay, please read. Dr. Haggerty, do you want to read and Ben checks you? We'll see.

No. Dr. Haggerty, it's really nice to have you in the class. It's really nice to have you in the class.

I love it. Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Is that right? I don't know what the LJ does.

[Speaker 1]
It's more obvious than it looks. Great. Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Great. Yeah. Great.

Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Yeah. You got it.

Cool. Nice. Good job.

Holy cow. Great. Okay, let's do this with Ben.

What's a choosing? A choosing is a water forest. I don't know.

Yeah. Bamboo? It's a bamboo.

Oh, good. Bamboo. It's called water tree.

Yeah. Okay. Quetzal means a garden in which you have planted lots of bamboos, okay?

Yes. I take the TSE here to be misspelled for TSE, which means to play and have a good time. TSE ROL means have a good time.

Enjoy yourself in a pleasure garden. God Day here means... Quetzal means pleasure garden.

It's a synonym for the god self. Same thing. Quetzal means...

The K just means where people enjoy themselves, okay? Okay. Bamboo pleasure garden?

Is that the idea? Yeah. Okay, so I want you guys to BAM going to pleasure gardens covered with ugly, dusty, twisted together bamboo trees.

That's not a very pleasant pleasure garden. Okay, got it? He's trying to draw an image of a dumb pleasure garden.

So you don't have peach trees or apple trees. You've got a big, unseemly thicket of bamboo. Okay.

You've never seen bamboo out of control, you understand? TSE ROL SPANG Give up going to those pleasure gardens featuring those kind of trees. And instead, take yourself to a...

JUN ZHING means a fruit tree. A very pleasant, shady fruit tree. In India, very valuable.

You should see the fighting over mango trees. So take yourself to a fruit tree, which is SANG MA. Pure?

Beautiful? Yeah, extremely pure. What's SANG DRA?

SANG DRA? Like a pure sound?

[Speaker 3]
The practices of a yogi?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, ritual purity. Like when people wear a mask when they make tomas. That's called SANG DRA.

It's a ritual... What do you call that? Is it like brahmacharya?

Is it related to brahmacharya? It's not related to brahmacharya, yeah. It's like artificially pure...

It's antiseptic behavior around making holy things, like a toma or something. And you wash your hands two times, and you put saffron water in your mouth and spit it out, and then you put a mask on. So take yourself to one of these super clean, nice peach trees.

PHYI'I DGAR ROL means, and play as much as you like. PHYI'I DGAR means as much as you like. Have a real good time.

GZHAN GYI RGA BYED RGA BYED means tapas. Yeah, right. Do the hard stuff.

So there's paths which other people have traveled, GZHAN GYI RGA BYED from... YUN RING GA BYED From long ago? From long difficulty.

Oh, from long difficulty. There are paths which other people have taken to do their spiritual journey, and they had a really hard time.

[Speaker 3]
Yes.

[Speaker 1]
It took a long time. Okay. But, why don't you DEPA CHUNG ROL, and then you'll just go PAR BA CHUNG?

And just try a little bit, and then you'll go right to the far end? Yeah, you'll go to the end of your journey. Now, metaphorically, where is the crappy pleasure garden here where people had to spend many years of hard work for not so much result?

And what's the wonderful pleasure garden where you just do a little bit of effort and you get what you want? In this context? In the context of this story, especially.

Yeah. I mean, yeah. I don't know, like trying to understand without logic, or trying to walk a path?

No. I think you could read it on two levels. Okay.

You could read it on the level of the duck, and you could read it on the level of a teacher who didn't quite get it right, and who's been struggling. So, explain it those two ways. Okay, so...

Then in the first instance, who was it that was spending a lot of wasted effort on a lousy path? Well, you know, Mr. Dharmakirti was in service of his father and his Brahmin buddies. It was his father.

His father wasted his time on a lesser path, a jungle path. And he practiced it for a long time. And then his son left and got great results in a short time.

You could read it that way. But don't forget, who's... I believe it's Ishwara Sena is reciting these lines.

So, what's possibly the other meaning of these lines? I... Yeah, I've been struggling for a long time to understand.

Yeah, and here you come, and you just read the book once, and you understand it better than the author.

[Speaker 2]
Three times, but yeah, it's pretty good still.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, you're special. Okay, you're special. You figured out the right way to go.

I believe he's praising Dharmakirti and denigrating his own kind of defective practice. Okay. By the way, what was some of the kache that Ishwara Sena went through?

Hard time. Oh, well, yeah, he got beat up by other debaters. Yep, and that's why he was forced into six kinds of soju instead of soju.

Yeah. Okay. Simbala?

Yeah, so it's possible that the kache here, the difficulty that he refers to, was his own. Okay. And now, Sena's past tense is equivalent to chin.

Okay. And a lot of things you have. Okay.

You have gone with great ease. Without much effort, you have gone to the other side of the ocean of suffering. Okay.

Okay?

[Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Who's checking you, Ben? It looks like Sugeng. It looks like Sugeng.

Yeah. This is a... man, this story is heavy.

Lama Ikshisan, whatever the... Lama asks. Yeah.

You're supposed to, gu, do kache. Do it, even if it's hard? No, this is BKA.

Oh, oh, caution, do it. Yeah, follow their command. Okay?

This ka means command. Okay? So, whatever the lama says, your wish is my command.

My wish is your command. Okay? In general, anything the lama asks you to do, you have to carry out according to their wishes.

Okay? But, what happens if the lama me rigpa? Yeah, if he says something wrong.

Yeah, or even illogical. And in Buddhism, you have to talk it with your loader. Yeah, you have to, I mean, talk it, like, label it?

I mean... Oh, this with a br means examine. Oh, examine it.

I'm sorry. Yeah, right. Look at it intelligently.

Yeah, and if the lama tells you to do something wrong, tor. Tor. Don't do it, like, cast it off or disregard it?

Throw it out. Just throw it out. If the lama asks you to do something improper, tor.

Throw it out. Check carefully, and if you think it's something wrong, tor. Okay?

Now, especially if they gave you nungwa with their ka. I'm sorry, this nungwa, I don't know. This nungwa means permission.

Oh, if they give you, right, if they instruct you. Yeah, if they ask you to correct them. If they've ordered you, if they've granted their permission, for hlakpa means especially if they have, with their command, the holy command, they have asked you to, they've given you permission.

Then, if you don't do... Yeah, if they're the problems that arise, then, yeah. If they say, look, my writing had mistakes in it, please correct it, and they give you permission to correct them, and then you madru.

Yeah, and then you don't... You don't write what they ask you to do, like a commentary destroying their book. Right, then that would be a nge-me.

Yeah, then you piled up a new wrong bad deed. If you fail to follow the command of the teacher who tells you to correct them, then you've done an even worse bad deed. ma chig gun, why do I have to even mention it?

What need do we have to mention? Usually it's... Yeah, right, yeah, right.

What a big mistake you'd be making if you didn't follow their instructions to destroy their book. Right, yeah, not to mention that. Whoa.

Okay, here's a... God, these verses are heavy. Who's checking you on this one, Ben?

Let's see, who do I have here? Ana. Cool.

Okay, so... S on an open vowel. Good, please, okay?

I'm going to keep... that's going to be my theme for next term. So, what's a ka-ding ka-ding?

It means sky glider. It means a Gerudo. It's a mythical bird that's like a phoenix, as big as the Sedona building here.

So, the Gerudo bird. Now, not just a Gerudo bird, but the wangpo of the Gerudo birds. Oh, the lord of the Gerudos.

Yeah, when the head Gerudo takes off and goes across the sky. That's say of how far they pour in the yin. The limit of how far they soar or may expand in the sky.

Yeah, the measure of what distance they have traveled through the sky. This guru is found in Jaga Pumbalila. BYANG CHUB SEMS PA SEMS PA CHEN PO PHA PA CHEN MED ZHIG DBANG BCUG GI TSA'I RANG DANG PA ZHAG LA THOG TU PHUNG LA DI RGYAS PA Oh, like a vulture, though.

Yeah, Jagad Guru, Rajagirhar. Okay, sorry, not Rajagirhar. Anyway, Guru Gyang, even a vulture, who are said to have the best eyes of all birds.

Okay. Because they can fly a half a mile up and see a mouse die and go down and do roadkill. You know roadkill?

It's an American English expression for an animal that got killed on the road. And those birds see a small dead mouse from half a mile high. Their eyes are famous in Tibet.

So, not even a vulture. SHEL BA means... They wouldn't be able to measure how far it is.

Exactly, they could not measure. SHEL means to raise something on a scale. But they could not estimate.

MI NU Other kinds of jaws. Who needs to mention? Okay, so not to mention other birds.

So, when the Lord of the Garudas flies, you couldn't measure how far they go. Even if you were a vulture, you couldn't figure out how far they go. Forget other birds.

Exactly, nice translation. All right. That's a very Kramer translation.

And it's completely accurate. Now, let's suppose you have SHOK NI. This means the two wings.

Two wings. And if you KYANG KUM. KYANG KUM.

This case means flat, but extended, contract. Yeah. The leg of a certain lady.

So, suppose you're a Garuda bird, and you flex your wings, you stretch out your wings, your two wings, into the sky of VIGLAM. The path of reasoning. Yeah, you spread your wings and take off into the sky of good, clear thinking.

Yes. Then, BYAS here. BYAS means BYAS SU, drunk.

Yeah, just like them or following them? GNYEC means they could never reach to that level. GNYEC, okay.

ZHA means bird. And ZHU. ZHU is the diminutive.

Wow. Somebody yelled at me, MISHA instead of MIHAEL. It's the diminutive.

Go ahead. With a DZHENG BU. Yeah, now he's done something I have never seen before.

Oh no, yeah, that's just a colloquial pronunciation. We say ZHU, we don't say ZHA WU. And I've never seen, I've seen genitives broken off to make meter, but a diminutive?

That's an ER, small ER. And not only that, he put an instrumental on a broken off ER. Okay, yeah, the bird.

Do you know how long I spent looking in the dictionary for apostrophe US?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, I bet, yeah, totally.

[Speaker 1]
God, what is this?

[Speaker 2]
Rough, okay.

[Speaker 1]
This means by the little birdies. Yeah. The little birdies.

Who are they? The CHAM ZE RIG CHES. Yeah, the Brahmin followers of the Vedas?

Yeah, the Veda scholars of the non-Buddhists. Yeah. You think those sparrows could see where the Garuda went for three days?

You know what I mean? Okay. What's up for them?

Oh, by the way, it says, if the Garuda opens his mighty wings in the sky of clear thinking, then how could the little sparrows of the Vedas ever reach his altitude? NYEK means to reach, okay? How could they ever get that high?

Uh-huh, uh-huh, okay. Now it seems to be a distinction not between Ishvara Trina and Dharmakirti, between Dharmakirti and... And his father?

And the tradition he grew up in. Right, yeah. Yeah, and that supports reading the first verse that way.

Right, it does. Okay, good. All right, yay.

Beautiful poetry. Who's got Ben on the next one? Okay, let's see.

Oh, I got to go to that. If you have some new person read and you check, that's even more Bodhisattva. Oh, cool, fun.

Okay. Oh, Rida should get some. Don't make mistakes anymore.

It's kind of boring. Oh, that's not true. Respectfully.

Respectfully. I expect to hear that respectfully many times in the future.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, I love you. Yeah, I love you. Oh, this is real.

That's actually going on here.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. Maybe that was Jim in his past life. Jim.

[Speaker 2]
Uh-huh. Good old Jim. Yeah.

Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Nice job, Alex. Heavy. Then the master, and the lopans are kind of flying around here.

I should say. I take it to be Chodak. Okay.

Right, okay. Yeah. You left that place?

Well, no. This is hard. This is hard.

Chodak nama jawa is an idiom that means to defeat the bad side. Okay? Total victory over the...

Totally victory over the bad side, which normally means your own mental afflictions, okay? Yeah. It's an idiom shortened to chodak nama jawa.

Chodak nama jawa. To defeat the side. And they don't say bad side.

So I supplied for you here. I don't think you should correct it. I just want you to know that's what it was.

Yeah. And it's a very common idiom for achieving the results of Buddhist practice. Beating the bad side.

And it's called chodak nama jawa. It's an idiom. It always comes together.

Chodak nama jawa. To defeat the other side. And that's chok, okay?

So chok means other side. By the way, maybe it's subconscious or maybe it's conscious, but chok is an extremely important word in the Pramanavarttika, which is what this commentary is to. It's the first word in the Pramanavarttika.

If you don't consider the caustic introduction. I'm not doing this for anybody. Everyone's sick with jealousy.

And he stops whining and he says, chok chodak chakyapa yi. And that's the opening line. So I'm just saying, if he throws a lot of choks in here, when they seem a little bit out of context, I think mine's already on the book.

Yeah, he's been knee-deep in it. Yeah. Chodak nama jawa.

La. If I want to defeat the bad side, I'm going to have to bestem on a yidam gita. Oh, I'm going to need to rely on a close angel.

Yeah, a personal angel. And I remember once a Muslim, what do you call him? Imam.

Imam came to one of our lamrim classes and led a prayer. And he led the daily prayer, the six times prayer. And he kept going like this, side to side, and whispering something.

And then afterwards he said, does anybody have questions about what we just did? And I said, what's this deal where you turn your head to side by side? And he says, I'm speaking to my personal angel.

And according to Islam, everybody has a personal angel who follows you your whole life, and you can't see them. So if you talk to them, it's better. And that's exactly what yidam gita means.

Yidam gita means your personal angel. Okay, it's very beautiful. So if I really want to destroy the bad side, I'm going to need to rely on a personal angel.

DGOS PAR DGONGS TE Thinking that to himself, he said, I'm going to need a NGA'I RTOR BYE'I LOD PAR Oh, I'm going to need a teacher of the diamond mantra. Yeah, I'm going to need a Vajrayana master. And there's one named, That's very South Indian, actually.

DGONGS TE What's the race of people in South India? Dravidian? Dravidian, yeah.

This kind of pronunciation is very Dravidian. South India, rather than Aryan. And I would say, ZHES PA LAS, but this is okay.

Really, his name is just Tim, PIM. That's just PIM. No, it's got to be DING GI.

Oh, DING GI. Okay, so it's okay. Now you can go look for DING GI.

Oh boy, okay. Good luck. And he, SHU, there's that honorific...

Yeah, he requested empowerment into the PURUKHA. Yeah, he requested empowerment into Heruka. Yeah, the glorious Heruka.

Then he... RGYUD PA LA ZHUGS He went to Diamond Mountain. Oh, he did his sadhana.

Yeah, he did his sadhana for this. He started this tantric practice after he got initiated. And then, SHAL SIG is an idiom meaning...

He came to see Heruka face-to-face. Face-to-face, yeah. He was able to meet Heruka face-to-face.

And that was his LHAG PA'I LHAG. Was his LHAG PA'I LHAG his super angel? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly. It's a very... What do they call that?

Assonance and consonance. LHAG PA'I LHAG LHAG LHAG LHAG LHAG The two words start with the same sound. In poetry it's called...

What's it called? Assonance and consonance. Alliteration?

Yeah, consonance, right? Okay, he met his LHAG PA'I LHAG. Then is LHAG PA'I LHAG a phrase?

It is, it is, yeah. It's God among gods. Yeah.

The more God than God. Okay. Let's do this one.

Who's checking? Okay. Let's see who...

Oh my God, oh my... How about Marina? Yay, Marina.

Thank you for your hard work, by the way. Panic, sorry. Just scrolling down the screen here.

Do you want to try to read just for fun? My teacher taught me to aim for the middle letters. No deal?

Are you waving me off officially? Turned off the connection. Okay.

Okay.

[Speaker 2]
Let's see.

[Speaker 1]
Berta, are you translating? Ben, can I ask you a philosophical question? Uh-huh.

If I don't eat the third piece of pizza, does that count the same as eating the salad? Yeah. Yes.

All right, I got the authority now. Oh, look, there's Cameron. I'll tell Veronica it was your idea.

Okay. Cameron knew it was time for him to read. All right, let's go there.

[Speaker 2]
All right. Yidam ki has?

[Speaker 1]
Play. Play. Play.

That's a vowel with an S after it.

[Speaker 2]
Play.

[Speaker 1]
That's a thing it has pretty soon.

[Speaker 2]
Another H. Kio? Kio.

No. No.

[Speaker 1]
True. Yes. Shindo.

[Speaker 2]
Shindo. Soon. Ta.

[Speaker 1]
Ta. Che. Chop.

Chop. Nam. Nam.

Nam.

[Speaker 2]
It is not easy. Yes. Yes.

But.

[Speaker 1]
Yes. Yes. No.

Yes. Yes. No.

No. No. No.

Yes. No. There you go, I got it.

Yeah, Ngu Drup, you got it. Only. Only.

shu, pa, yi dam, pe, de, shu, pe, yi dam, yi, pa, de, some reason the h's are throwing me um uh huh shell shell oh shit okay it's a z okay shell don't worry it's about to get really fun uh cure yeah great nice job yeah it was for some reason a lot more difficult than yesterday i think it's his younger brother uh okay uh ben the yidam is lost soon to him oh yeah the the the super close angel um said to him the dharmakirti what uh what do you understand what have you achieved no uh what spiritual goal are you do hey which one you want oh thanks cool yeah what are you looking for you may have three wishes then dharmakirti said i i seek self of cello i seek for myself that city okay yes kicking butt oh i want the city called defeating my mental afflictions yeah i'm not having the dark side okay smashing the dark side okay that's that's the city that i want okay was this the same phrase that we we just had that we said that he kind of did achieve yeah exactly yeah okay cool and uh he shoo he said and then the yida from the shell of the yidam from his face from his this one means mouth okay more sense yeah and then he disappeared yeah the daddy disappeared ha ha that's time by the way i think that's what ben does when ezra asks for something he's not supposed to do i would from now on i will cool let's check the spelling for you pet cool okay oh okay all right oh uh yeah tune in for the exciting conclusion yeah uh yeah in uh what october yeah 2057 no sooner than that um uh thank you i think it's my last class of the sashi so much yeah sashi from me too wait let's give you some homework to start with next time oh good we're stepping it up oh yeah yeah uh i i would like you to try these two verses okay yeah wonderful okay and there's a little blip that comes before it i guess i can go up to that point there's a little blip it's yeah you could do that if you want to okay it's a comment on some books that were written uh but but these are two sexy uh these are two very sexy verses awesome all right thank you so much boss my pleasure thanks but marginally okay okay all right thank you thank you thanks everybody take an eight minute break wow thanks feeling generous in his new house i'm gonna go try to make and eat dinner in that eight minutes