Классика Алмазного огранщика: Нижний Срединный путь — Анализ зависимости, занятие 46

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So domestic abuse and his specialty as a psychologist and a social worker is domestic abuse and he's good at it and he uses the principles of these teachings to be a successful domestic abuse preventer and fixer So I'm hoping you help with that team. Okay How that's gonna happen Yeah, maybe Welcome to the mix nuts. Okay homework time What's this guy this guy this guy what's this guy question question Oh, you kept saying disco Means you don't know what he's talking about Today today I Had to go back to your text because everyone's going really fast and that's amazing I told me maybe they're learning but I don't know.

Maybe they just took pages out Maybe you're learning Link number eight initial desire and link number nine advance desire effect link number ten ripening karma as part of the will Maybe they write How do those two links affect They water it just like coffee meditation, but in a negative way They trigger it Wait explain your text again for one Basically this text is uh talking about the way of life And actually we go very details But this book is only focusing on the 12 Sort of we don't really touch on all those inside but we go go very very good, especially the number one I think we spend like one year three times just to number one and then now we approaching number 10 and We because of me number 10. We are talking about how it and nine affected Produce it and we actually and we also go to the reason why number eight and nine are very important Okay, so yes all those answers are correct, but how do eight and nine actually produce ten My question should heat up the sea Yeah, actually what i'm looking for is Actually what i'm looking for is that uh, they do it sequentially Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Okay. They go in stages. They go in stages first eight and then nine.

Yeah so number two is only armed by link eight first and then Yeah after that by link nine And what are the three tibetan why can I join a question? Why do you think he split it into two? Because otherwise you wouldn't need to You owe me money no if they happen simultaneously, I mean then it would only be the same thing You wouldn't need eight nine.

You would just but why makes it such a big deal I mean all the other links have stronger and weaker divisions also probably I think they are so different Because it's possible to get eight and not get nine you could stop it. What do you think? I I don't know Yeah, I think yeah, I think that's logical.

Yeah, that's logical if you get eight then you could stop nine. Yeah, I mean there's a possibility The idea is you did a karma Early in your life and then it's just sitting there And then you have to put water on it and sunlight for it to create something in your life And then why but the The water and sunlight is traditionally divided into weaker and stronger So why why why make it too?

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Huh, I have a theory for me eight is the enabling that it can grow and nine makes it

[Speaker 1]
Maybe buddha wanted to teach us to watch more carefully when our desire starts kicking in and then yeah Catch it just to give ourselves a chance to like that one sounds pretty good Later we can get it if we wanted to but I believe even like during the buddha's time some of those Students listening to his teaching they might have already gone to eight, but they suddenly Got the realization and they don't have to go through that and become Oh, that's cool Yeah, it gives you a chance halfway to Catch it catch your mind doing that It's collected in two collected two, right? Well, it's well if you're going to commit it versus collected that's a different thing Okay Sorry Okay It will be finalizing karma True true Wait, what's the difference you gotta explain the difference what's the difference between throwing and finalizing?

Oh, okay. Well We have been learning about throwing and uh finishing throwing Throwing is the direction And then the finishing which is the job like when like when in the In example of a drawing And then the completion karma is like the coloring so Now instead of using the term completion Kedra pampada is using the term finalizing Okay, so one karma throws your next life and the second karma shows in the details. Yeah So now the question is that uh eight and nine No, sorry two Two two so what is this two here?

Is it is it a throwing or finalizing or both? and I don't know why Our author doesn't use the term completion. Yeah, I don't know either.

Yeah, so I don't know if it's different from such a he uses I think we need to just keep it in mind and we'll read more books and we'll find it Put throwing and completion as finalizing. Yeah Both as drip Oh possible Okay, maybe that's very nice but in this case, what is the question I'm, sorry To uh throwing karma or finishing karma, I mean Because ten is finishing Next life Throwing karma throwing we talk about throwing karma already, but next life Is the uh ancient word yeah young c means rebirth Nice Yeah, nice Okay, how do we transition from link 10 ripening karma and link 11 rebirth according to kendra Yeah, okay, yeah blame him yeah, it's okay Does it happen immediately or It it has to go through uh Which is not one of the and what is interesting is human being So sort of like we do the tour first before we before the old man Before the kigan girl is Taking the rebirth as a kigan girl It has to go through uh, according to the texas. We go through a detour as a human being to collect karma before The spirit becomes a bardo And before it becomes kigan girl.

Yeah. No, this is controversial and I figured it out Yeah And i'm going to teach it to you. Okay, but it is confusing.

Yeah, it's like halfway through the bardo, can you change directions and what happens and he's somebody's saying you can become a human before you take your next bardo and then you take your dog birth and It's confusing so I found I found the Okay. Okay. Finally, what is the stw for this should be uh, tse Oh, yeah, I would say the first syllable tse.

Yeah. Okay. I don't know which one Tse.

Yeah Yeah, I don't know either uh, anybody know where it is on the keyboard, yeah, semi semicolon and then c No, you were right with the first thing you just forgot the e No, no.

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Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
No, it needs a tse not a tz Oh, oh, it's a ts. Yeah, you're right. There you go.

Yeah, you're close I think it's shift v. That's how it is on my keyboard. If you put that in qwerty try shift v How about you just put tse in english letters Oops I can just do it right now No h No, no, you have to type it.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, okay.

[Speaker 1]
It's a wily keyboard ostensibly. However, oh e tse Anyway, that's the longest say I ever had. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Thank you What is the answer another life which is a bardo life Oh my god Another intermediate.

Yeah What's parture? Taking birth as a bardo being another life intervenes another life intervenes Yeah, another life comes between Okay, okay good. Thank you.

Thank you. Hey, that was one sexy tibetan He gave us other okay, okay Okay, I stopped here conveniently the period ended when I hit something I didn't understand and so He's trying to prove something about Old dogs Taking bardo birth in between death and rebirth and but then they have another rebirth and then there's something about Human birth in there and it's all confusing uh, and then he says Go ahead Um Good good, uh, first of all, there's a sick there's a shit here. Okay.

Oops Okay, uh Okay, it cannot come after the call because that's not allowed But it's and that's probably why the typist missed it because it goes on the next phrase So he wants you to pause And that was confusing. Okay, uh, if it wasn't a pause, it would be really weird codena Means it has a different meaning. So the lack of a comma messed me up uh, then I went to this book which is There's lots of samvichayas.

This is the abhidharma samvichaya Which is not an abhidharma text it's a mind-only text Okay, and it's a mind-only presentation of the abhidharma and here's the But but a lot of it's the same as the abhidharma kusha Okay, who wrote it? Yeah, the half-brother of the author of the okay, so, uh, here's the It's slightly different. It's a chitena Chitena okay rather than chitena, okay Doko Then dena nepa yang le soko.

Okay, that's he quotes that Okay, then it's totally Understandable. It doesn't make any sense. Uh chitena doko chitena means In any case doko turn around In any case stopped Okay, and it doesn't make any sense Dena nepa that makes a little more sense, but i'm going to come to it later So I found the only commentary I think in the tenure Which is by gyaway se which is probably Jinna putra, okay And I thought it'd be nice to read the whole thing because it's kind of Very relevant to all of us.

Okay. So here we go Now I'm sorry, I didn't split it Good Good, um In this process, okay shak dun Seven things are seven. Yeah, it's seven days.

This shak means 24-hour period They stay for seven days who are they talking about In the bardo. Yeah seven days And within that time they should They should die from the bardo life and go to their next

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rebirth

[Speaker 1]
okay, uh But that they can only go to the next rebirth if kelte they find the gens For rebirth and we had this story of you know dogs aren't mating at that season okay, so Your first bardo life is normally seven days or less If you find the conditions for rebirth, and if you don't Here we go Yeah, if you don't find what? the conditions then another Seven seven days, okay.

I'm, sorry Within seven days Okay under seven days, right? You ship her Yeah, and then you droop a participant Apartheid. Yeah, you you go to another bardo life.

That's why they say 49 days So there's a tradition to do a ceremony seven days after Because within seven days the person will go somewhere But there's also a ceremony done 49 days after because it's possible up to total of seven times You are reborn in the bardo Uh until you can find conditions to take a different birth, okay So there's a tradition to to do the ceremony on the seventh day and the 49th day and I remember asking Rinpoche When do you start the count and he said one is the day that the person died So you don't take them you don't start on the next day you start on the day that the person died And then it's it's a tradition to do a heavy prayer Changchong purification prayer On the seventh day and then again on the 49th day because on one of those days they've moved They don't do seven seven days, I don't know I can see you thinking about it Not not not by tradition. I don't know why I guess they just don't do it and then For chang chok, you should learn it someday.

There's a ritual you use a person's clothing On the theory that they might still be attached you use their famous tennis their favorite tennis shoes or jeans And you try to attract them to the ceremony and then mainly You help them Confess their bad deeds And that helps them to have a better rebirth So there is a ceremony you can do and you could learn it someday we could we could learn it we could translate it Okay, but but what I like this This reference is the first one i've seen that talks about why?

Seven days and 49 days i've never seen it in a scripture. You see this is cool. Yeah So by accident we hit this one Keep going Make up Yeah up to a maximum of seven times yeah, and then They're not Then in any case It has to stop And you have to be reborn.

So All we got was in any case it has to stop and we're like what? Okay. So now we know what that line meant It was in any case Uh No matter you know regardless Regardless, it has to stop the bardo has to stop and then you have to be born somewhere.

Okay He does not say uh, it's probably the very nature of things Oh, sorry Can I ask a question? Yeah Uh, they're it's both of atadamka they're both allowable the ancient form is chitena Chitena, but either one's okay. Either one's comfortable Okay, uh I don't know.

Uh, yeah I don't remember Uh, maybe Madhya or something. I don't know. Okay.

Uh Chitena doko. So here's the Here's the commentary So what is it? In between being yeah Yeah, uh Yeah, we had that chitena doko she chawani then then he The commentator jina putra says what the heck does the chitena do He also asked the question.

This is such a weird expression regardless stop You know and he says i'll tell you what it means so he actually Explains the wording he says, you know, this is weird, you know, regardless stop. What's it mean? He says kelte nekab denna If if at that point shendike we can uh If there is shendike we can Conditions to be born into another life Tomtom demasik if there's a powerful enough If there's a powerful enough conditions when the cure if it makes if it manifests if a if a sufficiently powerful condition for another actual birth manifests Then it in any case it will be stopped The process of the bardo will be stopped, okay And i'm not going to go further with that i'm going to stop here, uh, okay, but uh, he discusses He goes into another interesting subject which is people who were meditating In the lion's dance And they went to the form and formless realm meditations And their mind almost stopped and they thought I made it And then then they die and they go into the bardo and they're like this is cool I made it, you know And then suddenly they see they're going to take another birth and they get pissed off and they Lose faith in buddhism. There's there's a famous thing where they say. Oh this this was all Bs, you know, it didn't work And now here I am taking another birth, you know, and I thought They they get up Yeah, like in the bardo they think to themselves they see they're going to take another rebirth.

They thought they had reached nirvana And they get irritated at buddhism and then they collect bad karma, okay, and Here tarpa la kundep They say there's no such thing as nirvana. Now they get lokta And then they go to a samjhanyo Hell, yeah, and that throws them to a hell birth Okay, so it's a special problem of meditating on stopping your mind And it's the disappointment you feel When you thought you were in nirvana and you're just in another bardo And then you lose faith in the whole process and because you lost faith just before the bardo ended you go to the hell realms It's a famous detour But we're not going to talk about it, okay Hey Just kidding Oh, yeah, oh yeah, so I have to read you this line i'm sorry we didn't read this line Even as you stay there Okay, even as a person this came after the in any case it has to stop In any in any case it has to stop period And by the way, this is not verses I checked okay, it's just Snippets, he goes The the structure is weird here, you know And that's the structure of the whole book but it's not poetry it's uh, it's out of verse it's out of meter, okay anyway de na nepe kyang Even as they stay there Like so They collect yeah, they collect new karma. They collect new karma even as they stay there They collect new karma Yeah, even in the bardo according to this text they can make new karma. For example, the guy who thought he had reached nirvana Uh, the irritation of knowing he hasn't is enough powerful karma for him to change his direction So even in the bardo you can collect karma to have to take a detour And that that was the point of the old dog That was the point of the old dog.

Could there be an intervening birth? Could there be an intervening birth? Okay, got it.

So the the conversation was Could there be an intervening birth and he said yeah, there could be a bardo intervening birth He says no. Could there be a real intervening birth? And and our we said yeah there can and then we quoted this book Okay Meaning it's not really intervening.

You just detoured You know, it's not that you're going to come back to the bardo and continue until you take your rebirth. I said Not really You go to the hell realms for a billion years and then god knows what's after that Okay, hopefully you're working on so it be careful it's not that You bardo you human for a while you come back to the bardo and then you take the birth as a dog It's that you bardo You you you make new karma maybe because you're irritated because you didn't reach what you thought you would reach And then that throws you to a new rebirth But not that you come back to the bardo and then you go to the dog So you're gonna have to be careful how you translate it Yeah, yeah because you can collect karma in the bardo which will redirect the birth, okay So it doesn't really refute the argument. No, it doesn't I mean I didn't write it

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This reeks of there's a self-existent list of births you're going to take and you're And you slip one in and you know instead of just

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Let's read i'll quickly read the argument I'll quickly review the argument which I should have done, but I didn't want to because I was lazy That the opponent's position Was in between those meaning bardo lives, I guess Kigengar bardo tse le shenpe Other than another bardo life There cannot be an intervening life. Okay, so if a life is interrupted during the bardo even a bardo life It's not possible that another life that you could take a detour to another life that's now we know how to read it Yeah, that's his That's his original statement. Yeah And then we say de si batal it is too possible because suppose kigengar bardo tse le shenpe you take You take birth into a bardo which is going to become the old dog.

Okay And before you actually take the birth as a dog, which is the case here Before you actually take the birth as a dog, you take another birth as a person meaning in a hell realm Okay Okay, and then Kigengar bardo tse le shenpe If you take a birth as a bardo meant to become an old dog, okay Kigengar nama jipung pendekye le sokpa lun du go gupay che If you're gonna take birth as a bardo being which is headed towards a dog's rebirth, you must have Collected the karma to take a bardo being's rebirth headed to be a dog uh and uh that karma To become a dog after the bardo, right? has been Suddhap into tuchen Has been triggered by that magical power has been powered has been Fed by those two wrong ideas eight and nine And now it's tuchen.

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It's powerful.

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Yeah, it's potent. It's ready to blow It's ready to blow up, okay, so It is the process is that You collected karma at two to be a dog And then that got fed by eight and nine And then you died and then you went into a dog's bardo And you were supposed to become a dog at the end of that bardo But you something happened in between and you had new thoughts A very powerful ones that buddhism sucks and then They were strong enough to even even at the point where eight and nine had already triggered To for a dog you could still take a detour And not come back Yeah, nice, yeah, could you yeah, that's the idea of po'a That's the idea of po'a You do special good practices during the bardo And then possible you could jump off the train at the subway stop Which is what we taught in the lamrim classes and i'm not going to repeat it If you're too lazy to come to lamrim, don't make me repeat it here. Huh? What?

Yeah bardo time is the lady in the miniskirt time Yeah And that's a very sensitive time right, she's picking the She's picking the one karma that's going to decide out of millions of karma. She's got her hand in the lottery i'm talking about this new jersey tv show when they would Just before the evening news they would show this lady in the miniskirt come out and pick a lottery number And announce it on tv. So yeah, that's a very sensitive moment in your life.

And that's why they say Don't let the dead body get too hot or too cold. Don't cry loudly don't disturb the dead body make sure everything's nice and quiet and peaceful because In a disturbed state of mind that person might pick a different lottery ball Yeah, there's many stories about the guy who was dying and saw an elephant out the window and said that isn't isn't that powerful And suddenly the lottery ball changed And or they said I feel hot And because the room was too warm and then suddenly they went to a cold hell You had a question Yeah, no, I mean you should do it now you should do it today There is a tradition called poa where inside the pardo Uh You have a close. Um, you're close to emptiness at that time so a highly trained person Could jump off the i'd like to call it jump off the subway train at the station as you go by Yeah, but it's highly unlikely Because your mind is incredibly disturbed You know if you get disturbed when someone insults you How disturbed you're going to get if they toss you off a roof?

You know and like what's I'm saying. Oh, no. Yeah, i'm talking about death is going after dying, yeah technically after dying but During the death process to shut There's a shutdown process And so during that process you do but it's it bleeds over into the bottle.

Yeah And then what is it that's saying by the way the the galupa I believe some kappa belief is don't wait Till then that's like saying you're gonna Stop an atomic explosion You know in the middle of an argument with your wife, you know It's the worst time in your whole life to to do some spiritual, but you no one's gonna have the presence of mind While they're totally scared To think about emptiness. It's not going to happen.

It's considered foolish in our tradition to to wait Until then get it done now Yeah, okay question Two ten because uh, it sounds like we're saying It sounds like you were translating as it seems to become a dog But actually if you don't become a dog It goes to something else Well, this is kind of saying, uh, yeah, i'll just translate the whole sentence and then ask me your question guys the The Heaps which will ripen into an old dog, okay The karma which is throwing that body in mind, okay Has been fortified By eight and nine and now that karma Has become potent especially strong And that's required To take a rebirth as a dog Yeah Yeah, and the logical flow here is a little uncomfortable, you know, then he jumps into this abhidharma samuccayan thing This is like blisteringly complex philosophy, but at the same time I mean, does he need to be making this joke all along that somehow you're taking birth as an old dog? Like it's it is absurd at the same time, right? Like is this just like a joke that all tibetans know and even when you're writing a super complex piece of law I think it's meant to uh relax us in the middle of a difficult argument.

Yeah, they always they chose the example of a old dog with whiskers And I think it's just meant to chill you out a little bit There is some karmic relief to it And it happens from time to time it's not very frequent They'll often they'll talk about the old dog maybe 10 times in a book and it's kind of just to Because he's going to hit you on the head with his hammer Complicated scripture and he just kind of relax you before he hits you with a hammer.

Okay All right, let's keep going So you can use that as a footnote Uh, I wouldn't go into the part about the person who got irritated that they didn't reach nirvana, but maybe I don't know Think about it As an old dog, yeah Well, don't forget they're often born as in hell so from the fourth something okay anyway, go ahead Shippa Yeah, now this is um When we say sipa, right? It has a bunch of possible meanings like sipe khorlo Baba chakra wheel of life in that case sipa means samsara So sipa can mean samsara uh in modern tibetan sipa means Possible and missy means Yeah, and you always go missy and I mean impossible Uh, so that sipa doesn't mean samsara at all in modern tibetan Missy is a very common reply to a proposal by another person missy that's not gonna happen Then there's another sipa which is link number 10 Uh, which is the fat lady she's singing you know uh That's after the karma has been fortified And selected selected at the lottery and and fed and now it's ready to explode And the picture is a pregnant woman and the next link is rebirth So it's the karma, which is very very very ripe super ripe karma about to split open into a new rebirth So that's another meaning of sipa as link number 10 Now there's another meaning of sipa Which means a being?

And there's four kinds of them Kesi, parsi, munduki sipa Kesi and chisi There's four C and that means a being at a certain stage in their life So he's here Playing with the ambiguity of the word c okay, and it's just one of those cheap debates where they say Are you going to? And uh, then the joke is I meant two Not you know, and it's supposed to be a big, you know, wow, you mean pooping You see are you going to Uh, so it's just kind of a cheap debate because uh, it's the word has two different meanings, okay Yeah, and then you you've learned okay, so give me some c's Give me some c's possible possible type of being type of being type of four types Link number 10 Sansara in general wheel of sipa But it always means suffering life Okay. Yeah, it always means suffering life.

Okay cool Even in scripture, they'll say missy Impossible. Okay. So these are all the meanings of c in sanskrit bahava Bahava and the word b comes from buhu Yeah To be So it's it's it has big meaning to be a being is a sipa Right.

Bahava. Okay. Okay.

Here we go Kachi no name Did we read it already? Sorry. Okay Uh alternate laid on yama be wonky to a sipa, you know If something is a sipa that came about through karma and negative emotions Which is pretty much the definition of sansara Okay, if if a state of being has happened because of karma and negative emotions Then it must be sipa as linkedin Okay, if something is sipa In the meaning of it occurred because of your karma and negative emotions, which is kind of like rebirth, okay Then it must be linked number 10 because link number 10 is also called sipa But he's ignoring all the different meanings of sipa, right?

Okay. Got it What's our counterexample going to be before you look at it? Yeah could be anything could be the being at rebirth which is actually link 11 Okay casey take the being at rebirth Oh, are you telling me it's link number 10?

Why because it's a kind of c why because it's gay see And it's just playing on the ambiguity of the word. Okay, here we go. What's our counterexample?

Yeah, let's just do the chit-chat, okay, so chit-chat means our example, right Let's take the Another ningsam jarwa The womb which is about to be occupied by a person crossing into the next life. Yeah Uh, yeah ningsam jarwa means making the crossing into the next life. Okay making the crossing Uh, and he's crossing in this case into a nail Into a womb as opposed to an egg or whatever.

Okay and but this process very Poignantly is wrong one Not Not your own power. Yeah, you are hopeless It's just happening and you're watching and you don't want it to happen and it's happening you are Not under your own power you are Forced You are at the mercy. Yeah, good.

Yeah at the mercy of karma past karma and your negative emotions due to their power one key Because of their one you are wrong one man It's kind of a pun You know because of the power of karma and negative emotions you are powerless And you are crossing into a womb birth. Okay now Nasty nasty nasty Is the simple little word char? Okay, and you gotta learn this word.

Okay, so normally char means a pair Like humble humble chachi Means a pair of shoes. Okay, and it's interesting that the character Is a pair There's two little round circles. Okay So, uh the word for pair the symbol For char also has two round balls on it, right?

Okay so Normally char means a pair but in philosophy It means the condition of And things get messy Things get really messy. Okay, the condition Of taking rebirth is not the same as a rebirth Rky in no, no, this is completely different You can almost read it as the fact that right And then things get messy in buddhist philosophy Because facts in many schools are Unchanging the sky is blue is a fact Okay Watermelon juice is nice Is a fact watermelon juice is impermanent changing constantly changing created by causes and conditions but The watermelon juice is pink Is unchanging fact and it has the same weight as uh Uncreated space or almost emptiness. Okay, so big when you see char you should be nervous Okay, when you see char at the end of a sentence, you should say oh my god, he's going into deep territory I'm in deep poop right here You know All the bets are off.

Okay, ignore every word in the sentence except the char Okay. Okay, because once you got char you're on the level of space or emptiness. Okay the condition that Okay, so Okay, I warned you Now, let's see what weird thing.

He's going to say By the way, this is his counter example, right? The other guy said if something is the being that that happens because of karma and And negative emotions it must be linked in Okay, by the way if a char could be linked in there would only be one link in the wheel of life Because a char Cannot change anything else The fact that this guy is blue cannot grow a tree Facts can't do anything okay, so A fact cannot be any link in the wheel of life. Okay, got it.

I think that's where he's going. Okay, okay Oh, did we do that?

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Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. Let's take this example of the condition Of making the crossing into the womb Helplessly Due to the because of the power of karma and negative emotions Dad pal, which means what? Dad pal Oh, it must be link number 10 because you said all sipas are link number 10 Okay, it must be link number 10.

Okay Why do you say that? Because Because it is Because it is a being Which takes place due to the power of karma and negative emotions, which is what he said He said any state of being that take any state Which happens because of negative emotions and karma? Is linked in Then we said let's take the condition Of having to be born into the womb Through karma and negative emotions.

Are you telling me it's link 10? Yeah Why then he says why do you accuse me of that? And we say well it happened through karma and negative emotions and it's involved with sipa So are you telling me it's link 10?

And he says He says why do you say that and we say we repeat why because It is samsara Happening due to the power of karma and negative emotions Then he says I disagree That being forced to go to the condition of being forced to go into the womb because of your past karma and negativities is Samsara happening because of the power of your past nirvana and we say come on it is And he says why and we say because it's what I said it was Which is my unfavorite reason Uh, we should go to the japanese restaurant tonight, honey, because it's the japanese restaurant we're gonna go to Thank you. Okay Yeah, try that on your wife, right? Okay Okay, go ahead Yeah Uh $50 for what he did uh Is So far you're okay, but i'm waiting for the punchline Powerlessly at the mercy of your karma and your kleshas Uh, you can't agree that that No, take your time take your time you're halfway there.

Yeah. Yeah You can't agree that that is what he means by see but you can't agree that I knew you would lose the money Yeah, you can't agree that the fact that you're crossing the life into a womb is is the same as Oh, yeah, that's it $50 $40 because it took so long Oh, okay. 25 25 Yeah, 25 25 it was a joint process he was karma.

She was negative emotions Yeah, yeah, we say no it's not linkedin come on that's not linkedin okay, why because it's what I said it was Okay, and because I said cha I said condition and a condition cannot be a link because a link means a link in a process but if the condition If the link doesn't move doesn't change if it's just a the sky is blue If it's unchanging condition if it's a truth It can't trigger something else it's not going to trigger a rebirth, okay, that's not a rebirth, okay The condition okay the fact that joe took birth is not a link the fact his rebirth is And joe taking birth is but the condition of joe taking birth the fact that joe's taking birth The truth that joe is taking birth cannot cause anything else. It cannot be a link in a process It cannot be part of a chain reaction Because it's just a fact and facts don't do anything Yeah, we're just being cute. We're just being cute, which is you know, so gung's cute, right?

That's why you married him Okay Good Anyway, uh, he's gonna go on to the different kinds of c. Okay, the kc the gc The parsi and the c of the time before which is a Fascinating one, but you don't get to hear it today Okay We do have one more class Okay, uh, but but now all I wanted you to learn today is cha when you see cha freeze Okay You said cha, right? Yeah, okay just a tiny little word one little sound messes up the whole debate, okay It makes it an unchanging condition Okay.

Okay Yeah, yeah the because of what we call equational sentences They will say namkara mumbo Sky blue and it's in sanskrit in tibetan. It's called an equational sentence. They don't use an is or are or okay 17th today Time flies Foreign Foreign Yeah, you're tibetan