Углублённый курс ACI 03 — «Руководство к образу жизни бодхисаттвы» Мастера Шантидевы: обмен себя на других (2004, Нью-Йорк), занятие 9

[Говорящий 1]
Well, it's last nine. We've been through the exchange, especially mentally, alright? And if you look on the left side, you'll see that, of this first verse, the Gelta Deva is saying, now that you've...

it's how to proceed in your actions once we have done so. Once we have done so means once you have learned to do the mental exchange. You know, once you've practiced that darkness, that dark exchange, then where do you go from there?

You know, what will you do now? How will you conduct yourself based on what you learned from your twisted... exploring your twisted mind?

Alright? Okay. So, the first part is giving away all the good things you have.

Sending is a bad translation for giving away, okay? And who is turning here? Where are we?

Susan? Wayne? Wayne?

Oh, okay. Wayne, eight, eight, uh, 159.

[Говорящий 2]
You will take care of others, watch them quietly, and then snatch away any particular thing that I have in my possession.

[Говорящий 1]
Okay, good. Um, there's a very unusual Tibetan word here called tokchen. Tokchen.

Tok means to think of something. Chen means big. And tokchen in the dictionary is defined as sopa.

Do you know sopa? It's not sopa, okay? It's not geshe sopa.

People make fun of geshe sopa in Tibet, in Tibetans, because, uh... Do you know sopa? No, that's sopa.

Sopa. Sopa means a spy, okay? Like a military spy.

Someone who goes ahead and...advanced scout or a spy. No, his name is sopa. Both sopa and sopa are badgering pronunciations of sopa.

They're both patients. Geshe sopa in Wisconsin is geshe patients. And Lama sopa in Bhutan is...

And then sopa...Tibetans make fun of them, because, oh, you're sopa, huh? And they go, no, sopa, you know. Sopa means a spy, and it's sort of like a bad word.

It's like, you know... Saying someone is a sopa is a big insult. Like, you're spying for somebody, huh?

Or something like that, okay? So anyway, yeah, it's a joke. But tokchen means sopa, which means...

And Prajnaparamita makes it clear here, that what we translated as watch them quietly, I was trying to capture something where you don't feel like it's spying on somebody. But the idea is that jampa thing, where you... We talked about it before.

Jampa in New Jersey is so good at it. He watches you, and he sees what you like. What is your favorite thing?

Restaurant, you know everything about them. From their eyes. You see, where do their eyes go?

Who do they look at? If they step down a plate of food, do their eyes go like that? And we don't notice we're doing it, but if you watch a person...

Like in business, you learn this. You watch a person's eyes, and you learn about 50% of their life from where their eyes go in the first five minutes. And people will...

We have to do that with others. We have to be watching them. Where do their eyes go?

And then, if you're good at it, you're offering people like, Oh, would you like some of these grapes? And they're like, Oh yeah. And they don't realize they've glanced at them three times since they've been sitting there.

It's like that. But in a good way. You sopa on them.

You spy on them. You watch them. You observe them.

And then you see, what's your favorite ice cream? You have a list in your mind for all your friends. For everybody you know.

I know your favorite ice cream. I know your favorite clothes. I know which kind of movies you like.

I know what kind of music you like. Because you want to please them. You want to serve them.

So you have all this information ready. And it's a file that you keep on each person. What do they like?

And that's sopa. Sopa, okay? So tok chen.

Watch the family. And then they say, Any time you get something, you steal it. Chok in Tibetan, what we call here, snatch away.

Chok means literally that. It means what, that's what a mugger does to your purse. The Tibetan word.

It means like, snatch it away. Grab it away. It's like to steal without the other person's permission almost.

So now you're talking to yourself. You, by the way, they always say in this part of Shantideva's text, Master Shantideva's text, it's kyur yi. What's yi?

Mind. Yeah. Oh you, my mind.

You will watch others. You will see what they enjoy. And you will, the moment I get, some new thing comes to my possession, you will steal it from me and give it to the other person.

Okay? Like someone sets a big fresh cookie from Joanne down on my table, you will open it and hand it out to everybody. You know?

He's instructing his mind. You know? You will.

Anytime something comes to you, you will now and give it away right away. And you're like, no, no, I wanted to eat one of those. And you say, no, no, I'm choking it from you.

Who? Me. From whom?

Me. Okay? We're still in almost like J-mode, jewa mode, changing ourself and the other person.

Okay? We're still in schizophrenia mode. Okay?

We're still in this schizophrenic mode. Like, I'm two people. So I'm talking to myself.

Michael, you will watch out for what other people want. Okay? And the minute you meet somebody who wants Joanne's cookies, you will open it and give it away.

No, no, I wanted some. No, you will give it away. You see, I mean, that's...

It's a conversation going on. Okay? That's it.

Who's next? You want to go? This is a hard verse.

Like, where's this coming from? Who's talking to who now? And why wasn't this back in the exchange chapter?

Now, Prajnakaramati says something interesting. He says, dhani dakshen du jewa porne laryan tratto gombala ranggisem jangway chir Okay? That's the Prajnakaramati.

What does that mean? dhani dakshen du jewa por Drop the exchange. You're not exchanging anymore.

Okay? It's not a role playing anymore. Got it?

That's what he says. Bor means give it up. laryan tratto gom Why don't we go into some more of your own jealousy?

Let's explore your competitive state of mind again. Okay? But this time you're doing it inside your own mind.

Got it? You're not another person who's the victim of your jealousy or the victim of your sick state of mind. He says, just for good measure, let's drop by your sick state of mind one more time to see how you think.

Okay? Got it? So it's not an exchange according to Prajnakaramati.

tratto gombala ranggisem jangway chir In order to purify your mind a bit more, let's go back again to watch how twisted your own mind is. Now why he does that at this, given what comes next and what came just now, you guys have to meditate on that for two months. That's the job.

That's so hard to get this class today instead of being in the air, so that you'd have two months to cook it. And you have to, okay? If you don't, you won't be able to...

You can't pick this up the night before and teach it. You've got to spend some... half an hour the next two months, every day, in your meditation.

What the heck is... How does this tie together with what came... You have to be thinking.

And I warn you a little bit about going out and getting a translation of the other verses. You know, a lot of them are not accurate. I can tell you that.

Without being... I'm not like being... you know, self-praising.

I think... They didn't have access to Gyaltsabje or Prasakarmakirti or not that good or whatever. Okay.

So the rest is pretty clear. I should be happy. Others should be unhappy.

I should be raised. Others should be learned. I should be helped.

Others should not. Let me see what Gyaltsabje has something on. Gyaltsabje says the higher...

Raised. I should be raised. Okay.

He says, in the sense of in my material prosperity and other such things. Okay. So to Gyaltsabje, I should be raised means I should get a raise or something like that.

[Говорящий 2]
Okay.

[Говорящий 1]
So it's not so much in fame here. It's more like I should become greater than others in my material resources. Okay.

Like that. That's how Gyaltsabje glosses it. I should be helped.

Gyaltsabje does a very interesting thing. Okay. Get this.

He says, I should do good deeds so I can have a happy future. And other people shouldn't.

[Говорящий 2]
Okay.

[Говорящий 1]
So it's not like other people should give me lending me a hand or something. It's not that kind of help. It means like I should be smart enough to help myself by doing good karma for my future.

But other people shouldn't do that. Okay. Got it?

Those are Gyaltsabje's specific ideas on what the help means. Who's next? John?

I will see to it that I do everything that feels good. I will see to it that I take on everyone else's pain.

[Говорящий 2]
I will see to it that I criticize all of my own faults.

[Говорящий 1]
Saying to myself at every turn, what do you think you're doing now? Okay, good. I lose everything, okay?

Prasakaramati says, especially my physical, what I own physically, my body and things that I own. You've dropped out of dark mode, right? The last verse was go and re...

reacquaint yourself with how twisted your mind is. This verse is like and then come back to the white light. And do the right thing, right?

Now here's how you should really think. He just took you back in that last verse to how you've been thinking. Let's remind ourselves of how twisted we are.

And now he's like, now here's how we should act. Okay, so this verse is how we should act. Feels good, Gyaltsabje says, refers to se and gu, which means food, clothes, other nice things.

And then the second part, say to yourself at every turn what are you doing now. It means, instead of being critical towards others, like I don't like what you just said or I don't like the way you're acting, turn it around on yourself. So instead of being critical to other people, you're walking down the street saying, why did you just think that?

You know, what were you doing this morning? What were you thinking? Why didn't you give away those cookies?

You see what I mean? Like all day long you should be critiquing your behavior, okay? Like that.

So now you're being critical of yourself and not other people. Okay? So, yeah.

Yeah.

[Говорящий 2]
I wasn't really clear what it means, jealousy, I think, is the thing that you want.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah. The Sanskrit is irsya, which the Tibetan translator has talked about, which always means jealousy. Okay?

Then the Tibetan translator felt it was necessary to throw in den, which means to compete with somebody else. To strive with somebody else to get things. So I think you can go either way.

I'm using the Tibetan jealousy, but I think, try compete. You know, try compete. It might be more comfortable.

I think the Tibetan translator felt uncomfortable with the irsya also, given what comes. Because it's not really technically jealousy, is it? It's not really jealousy.

Jealousy does say that, though. You know, jealousy is thinking, jealousy is happy when the mighty fall. You know, that's why it's so popular in National Enquirer.

And what's that other newspaper in the evening? What's the one that they read on the bus every night? Daily News.

Do they still have the Daily News? Yeah, well anyway, that was full of it. It was like, oh, I saw one last night, Julia Roberts is pregnant, she looks terrible, or something like that.

And, there was a sign of glee that people have when the mighty fall. And, I think that's a kind of envy or jealousy also. You could say that's a kind of envy or jealousy, like that.

So it's like, they shouldn't be happy, I should. They should go bankrupt, I should get rich. I mean, it is the kind of bad deed number nine out of the ten, where you're, you want other people to screw up, then it somehow makes, somehow it's going to make you feel better, or make you more comfortable, which is totally sick and we do it every day.

Okay. So what do you think you're doing now is me talking to them. Me.

So we're still kind of doing this weird thing, you know, we're still like schizophrenic. You know, you should walk down the street saying, what do you think you're doing right now? What are you thinking that for?

Okay? Like that. Alright?

I would say a good Buddhist is walking down the street half-schizophrenic, right? Like you're, you're having a conversation, you say, yeah, and I thought about her. And then, that's how I feel in the karma circle.

Like the people around the table are half, doing half sentences half the night, you know, because they realize they're committing some negative karma and they stop. And they say, ah, ah, ah, never mind, you know. Okay.

Alright. Mmm. A162.

Who's turn is that? Yeah.

[Говорящий 2]
And even if others do something wrong, even if I do the very same thing.

[Говорящий 1]
Okay. Mmm. So now it's this thing about, yeah, this is a nice practice if you try it.

I did it a lot at work when I was working in New York. Take the blame for things from other people. I mean, the natural human tendency is to blame other people for mistakes or to say, that wasn't me, that was somebody else.

But to just graciously and anonymously take the blame for things is a very sweet practice. It's a very holy practice. So you see someone else make a mistake and you assume responsibility for it and you never clarify it to anybody.

I saw this in Dear Abby. Okay. It was in Dear Abby.

It said, you know, take blame for something every day and don't tell anybody and you'll be a better person. And I like it. Okay.

So, it makes you very powerful. Your life, it's very empowering. You become a very strong person if you can do that.

Then whatever faults you really do have, then run and confess them to everybody. This shok, in the Tibetan, is a very rare imperative form of shakpa. Do you know shakpa?

What's it mean? To purify or confess. It comes from the Tibetan word to split wood.

It's called shok. Shok, with a hatchet and then you go pak and the wood goes like pak. So it means to bare your soul.

To split open to your heart. And this is really healthy too. Run around and tell people all your faults.

Every time you get a chance. Every time I meet some lama, the first half hour is like telling them all the bad thoughts I have. And they're like...

And then afterwards you feel very clean and you feel very healthy. It makes you very healthy. To hold your faults and they sort of fester.

And they make you rotten. But if you're just very frank with people... I could give a talk in Vancouver and tell them all my bad deeds.

At the... near Main Street. Yeah.

I said, I did this bad deed. I want you all to know. And then just open.

And it makes you clean and it makes you healthy. And it's a good thing. Okay?

And he says not one person. Tell as many people as you can. All right.

Okay. These are not like big secret verses. These are not too confusing.

These are like final advice by Master Satyadeva. He's going to move on to chapter nine now. What is chapter nine?

The wisdom chapter. The hardest thing in Tibetan literature. People have written huge books about the ninth chapter.

You got the ninth chapter very nicely. It's very rare to get the ninth chapter. Nobody can translate it.

To read a translation is hopeless. There has to be a long commentary. That's when Satyadeva was rising off the throne and going into the sky.

It's just really hard. Because you don't even know who's talking. So he's kind of like getting people relaxed before he hits them with the ninth chapter.

Okay. Okay. This is probably...

He was about to take off. And he knew a lot of people wouldn't be able to follow him. It's like being very kind, you know.

It's like leaving on a good note. Okay. All right.

Who's next?

[Говорящий 2]
When others begin to get some truth, I'll make sure I add some more.

[Говорящий 1]
Okay, good. Your normal reaction when someone else is getting... Someone is praising somebody else.

Garchen Rinpoche is the nicest, kindest Lama I ever met. And you're like... Instead of saying, well, you know, and finding some excuse why you're better or something, then you say, yeah, and I saw him do this.

Instead of trying to remove some of that fame, you try to dump some more on. It says here, I'll shine whatever fame I enjoy. Gyatsobje says, whatever good things I'm doing should become hidden.

People shouldn't know all my good qualities. The result of this process should be people think that other guy is even better than they thought he was. And whatever qualities you have that you might have shared with them, you hide them.

You conceal them. I see this as a sort of balancing process. What you take to be neutral is self-cherishing.

You think you're trying to be neutral about yourself. If you're in a neutral mode, then you are in a self... What do you call it?

Self-promoting mode. What we take to be neutral is self-promoting. You see?

Because we're so far over to the edge. We're so interested in ourselves that when you think you're being a bodhisattva, you probably reach neutral. You see what I mean?

So, you know, you're just... What do you call it? Compensating for your natural bias to praise yourself.

You see? That's so strong. Your natural bias to say good things about yourself is so strong that if you just struggle to praise yourself, you got back to neutral.

What I'm saying is, if you try to hide all your good qualities, you'll get to neutral. You see what I mean? But even then, it's very attractive.

It's very attractive to people. People smell it. People smell it.

They find out... What was I doing? Oh, it's Anatole.

Who knows Anatole? You know Anatole, right? I read his bio on Westside last night.

He's got all these other amazing qualities. He never mentions them. You see?

He's doing all this amazing stuff that I know about. And then I saw his bio on some yoga center thing, and I'm like, he's doing all this other amazing stuff that he never mentioned to us. And then you feel like, oh, this person's a real mensch, right?

Like, this person is cool. Because they're not telling you everything they are. Yeah.

Selim Lee's really good at that. Selim Lee's really good at that. He gets up like some old Joe.

He's building a $30 million project over here and a $10 million project over there, and he's a professor of architecture at the university, and he speaks 20 languages. And he says, he's like, oh, let me introduce Geshe Michael. You know, he's like that.

Okay. The bottom line is, once they find you out, you look even more attractive than if you had tried to convince anybody about how cool you are. All right.

I think we're on 164. Go for it.

[Говорящий 2]
He is, by his very nature, wrong. Refuse to praise him for some small accidental good. He too is, and any qualities which he does have aren't detected by anyone else at all.

[Говорящий 1]
Okay. By the way, I forgot to gloss the second half of the last verse. But it's not, you don't need it.

I should be the servant of the world. And, we, we've invented a program at Diamond Mountain called Servant of the World, and every student is going to be required to do five hours of Servant of the World, and either work at the prison, or work in Bui at the elementary school, which is closed on Fridays because they don't have any money, and work on the land somewhere. So like that.

And like, be a servant of other people. Take care of other people. Be their servant.

And that doesn't need much commentary, I think. It's pretty clear, right? Except that, who's bossing you around?

Who's the master? You are. Okay?

You're commanding yourself to go be other people's servant. Okay? And you're just working for other people.

It's actually very fulfilling. It makes you very happy. You get out of the prison, we go teach at the prison, and you come out and you feel like so good about yourself.

You feel like, oh, that's definitely a beautiful thing to do. Going to the hospital, things like that. Okay, let me see.

Who's he in this verse? Yeah, you. Yeah, yeah, me.

You, me, he. Right? Okay.

He's messed up. And if he happens to do something, small thing right, like teach a class next month in August, I'm not going to praise him.

[Говорящий 2]
Okay?

[Говорящий 1]
I'm not going to get excited. I mean, basically he's pretty messed up. If he does something right, like teach a nice class at, you know, wherever it's going to be held.

Where is it, Michael? In a school somewhere? Yeah.

Try to get a free place, okay? So we can, you know. I know.

No, I mean like the school. I mean like the school. So anyway.

Yeah. So you're talking to yourself. You're pointing to yourself.

Oh, that Michael Roach guy. Yeah? Basically he's pretty screwed up.

Oh, really? Yeah, he did do one good thing. He taught down at Dorothea and Wayne's the other night.

Oh, yeah? Yeah, it was just like an accident. You know, it's like, not his nature.

He just like, slipped and did something good. Okay, like that. Like you have to be super critical of yourself.

Okay, got it? Okay. Then, whatever he does right, we shouldn't tell anybody.

Keep it quiet. That's all. And this is just a good way to live, right?

I was with, who's that, Jerry Dixon, right? Out in Arizona. I've known him for like, five years?

Five years? Six years? Seven years?

And one night it came up, some guy was talking about airplanes, and he says, well, 747 wouldn't have that problem, you know? We had a 747 that ran into a light pole on takeoff and ripped off half the sign, and it just circled and landed. Just came back and landed, you know?

And the guy said, well, we've known him for seven, eight years. And he says, well, Jerry, what would you know about 747? He says, oh, I designed it.

And then he just went on, you know? And he never told us this, you know? We didn't know that.

Like, he designed a major part of the 747, you know? And he's just out in Arizona poking around. And you see, he's like that.

He's really like that. And he didn't think that he hadn't told us, you know? He just didn't mention it.

So anyway, I like that. 165. Michael, you're good, right?

Sean, you want to try one?

[Говорящий 2]
Put it briefly, I will see that whatever harm you have ever done to others for my sake now falls instead on me, myself, and all for the sake of these living beings.

[Говорящий 1]
Okay, good. Who's I and who's you? Yeah, yeah.

You're talking to yourself. Schizophrenia again, okay? Is that the right word?

Yeah. Yeah, you're talking to yourself. Okay, look.

Michael Rhodes. What? You've done so many bad things in the past.

You hurt so many people. Yeah, okay. Why?

I wanted something. I wanted to get something. Okay, well, but from now on, things are changing.

You know, like, you're only going to do... What's it? Yeah.

Whatever bad things you've done to others, it's only going to come on you. Okay? Okay.

That's fine. And it's not for your sake. It's for others' sake that we're going to do that.

Alright. Got it? Okay, that's the verse.

Got it? I'll say it again. You've been hurting a lot of people in the past.

Right. Why'd you do that? For me.

Okay. Well, now everything you did to others is going to be done to you, okay? Yes.

And for others' sake and not for your sake. Okay. Alright?

Got it? It's a positive schizophrenia. So you get to teach the dark class and then I get to teach the light class.

The white class, okay? You get to teach the happy class. Got it?

You okay?

[Говорящий 2]
Alright.

[Говорящий 1]
By the way, I mean, is this Chang'e? Is this figurative or literal?

[Говорящий 2]
You can't prevent harm from others. Right.

[Говорящий 1]
But I'd like to address just briefly a larger issue. This almost gets into this flagellation thing. You know, like, I should suffer, others should be happy, I shouldn't get any ice cream, everybody should get ice cream.

And I think, ultimately, that's not equal, is it? That's not the goal, right? I think this is a compensation exercise.

You're just trying to get from this extreme of only thinking about yourself to thinking about everybody. But I don't think it's meant to have you stay in that other extreme, which I don't think is healthy. I should beat myself up.

I shouldn't get anything. Other people should be happy. I should be a schmuck.

That's not the point of Buddhism. We're all going to go to enlightenment together. We're all going to be perfectly enlightened, holy beings made of light.

You know what I mean? It's not the goal. And I think it's important to say at this point, because Judeo-Christians will grasp onto this.

Right, I should be guilty. Right, I should suffer on the cross. That's the only way it's going to work.

It can't be like we all just get enlightened together. You know what I mean? And you've got to be careful with that, I think.

You've got to encourage people to think. Master Shantideva is just, you're over here all the day, praising yourself. So he's saying, come over here, so that you'll come halfway.

Okay, like that. It's like in a diamond negotiation. The guy says, 10,000 a carat, and you say 100 a carat.

Because you want to finish at 5,000 a carat. Right? I mean, my boss taught me that.

How much do you pay for this diamond? 5,000 a carat. How much is he asking?

10,000. So ask him 100. Okay?

Don't start at 5,000, because he'll squish you up. You know, start down here, so we can get you here. You see what I mean?

And it's the same idea. Okay? It's the same idea.

I don't think he's saying, oh, you should suffer for the benefit of others. It's not like that. Okay?

Alright.

[Говорящий 2]
So is he kind of like, you're experiencing the negative?

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, that's definitely. I think that's what he's partly saying here. I'm experiencing this cancer anyway.

I'm also getting some mileage out of it. I'll do tonglen with it. I'm taking away other people's pain.

Like that. That's fine. I think that's fine.

Then the bad deed that caused the cancer was done for whom? For me. Then the cancer itself, you can turn it into something to help others.

And that's what he's saying. You did the bad deeds for yourself. Now get the result for others.

You see what I mean? That's okay. I think that's okay.

Because you will, right? Bad things will happen to you. Might as well get some mileage out of it.

Dedicate it to something good. But the goal is not to stay there any more than in tonglen that you're meant to swallow the black yourself and leave it there. Remember, when you do tonglen, they say you must get rid of the blackness.

You must explode it. Just pure light. Very bad deed to leave it there.

The idea is not to suck it all in and leave it there. You're not meant to suffer while everybody else goes to enlightenment. You know?

It's not like that. Okay. I think that's a big difference between some Christian ideas.

That you're meant to suffer while other people are happy. Yeah. Extreme over...

Try to get him to the extreme so he'll come halfway. That's part of tonglen too. Because they do say if you do a good tonglen you should have hesitation just before it comes into your nose.

That would imply that there is something that could hurt you. You have to be willing to hurt and not hurt. Not hurt.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay, 166.

Who's turn is it? Okay. That's pretty clear.

Right? By the way, the Tibetan for bowl in a china shop is nyadak gyurtsun. Nyadak means...

Anya is a yoke that you use to link two bowls or that you put over an ox. And the idea is that it's splintery and rough wood and it's like rough. And then it's like...

what do you call it? A burden or something. And the ox is going like this all the time and trying to get this off.

You see? So, it means to act inelegantly, ungraciously. Like, you're not going to...

you're not going to do all these things for other people in some loud, arrogant, self-serving, pretentious way. Oh, I'm going to help you. You know, that's also very...

what do you call it? It's just not nice. Oh, I'll come and help.

I'll teach you what you need to know. It's like... not like that.

It's like... graciously. Like a...

they say a new-wed bride in Tibet, the mother-in-law is always looking for faults. And then the bride is very quiet. The bride usually has to go to live with the other family.

By the way, in Asia, the bride becomes the slave of the other father's... whole family. Especially the grandparents, right?

The parents of the father... of the husband. Right?

So, she walks in... This is in comics also. The new bride comes to the new house.

She becomes the lowest person in the family. She has to do all the cooking, all the cleaning, everything. That's the way it is.

So, she comes in and he says, jikpa. She's afraid or she's super conscious of not making any slips. You see what I mean?

Like, very quiet, unassuming, gracious, help people. What do they call it in programming? Transparently.

You don't notice how good the program is. You see what I mean? It's just good.

And you never know all the stuff behind the programming. You don't need to know. You don't find out anything you don't need to know.

They just serve you. Jampa is really good at it, down in Howell. You sit down, you turn around, you turn around, your favorite coffee or your favorite tea is already there.

And he's gone. You see what I mean? And it's like that.

Just smooth, transparent, graceful, elegant, and not like some loud person says, I'm helping you. Did you notice? You know, like that.

Like that. By the way, Gyaltsabje says there's also a flavor in here of what Christ said about the yoke. What's that?

What did Christ say about yoke? My yoke is easy, or something like that. Like, he implies that it's heavy, but it's easy.

You see what I mean? And Gyaltsabje says the same thing. He says you can read this verse as, if you think it's going to be too hard, if you think serving other people is going to be too difficult, like a big, heavy weight on your butt, don't think like that.

You're going to dance through this process. You're going to just fly through this process. You'll be like a bride at a wedding.

He says you can read it that way too. Be happy. You will be beautiful.

You will be stunning. You will help other people. You don't have to worry that it's going to be some big problem.

You're going to be like a ballerina. Like, yeah, they call it, what do they call it? Steel lace or something like that.

Ballet teachers call it steel lace. Like, outside you're this beautiful, flighty thing, and then down in the legs and the feet it's because you've got steel down there. But to people watching your performance, you're just like graceful and smooth and flying.

But then down at the bottom there's this power, strength, and they never see it. So it should be like that. So don't think it's going to be hard.

You'll be strong. You'll be able to do it nice. Don't think it's going to be like some big burden on you.

To do what? To be everybody else's servant. Get it?

So you're going to be like a bride. You're going to be able to do it smoothly. Frankly, the karma of being everybody else's servant is that you end up being everybody else's boss.

Just so you know. If you ever wanted to be in charge of something, the way is to be everyone's servant. Yeah, yeah.

Then you end up being... Karmically, you end up being the leader, if you want to, by being everybody's servant. This is our last verse, OK?

Kind of cool. Who gets to do that? OK.

[Говорящий 2]
You get to do it this way. Take control of him this way.

[Говорящий 1]
OK, good. Who's him? Me.

Who's talking to him? Me. Good.

OK. Who's you? Me.

[Говорящий 2]
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Говорящий 1]
OK. Got it? Got it?

This is a schizophrenic conversation. Do this and do it this way. Who is that?

I forget if it's Prajnaparamita or Gyaltsabje, but they say, ksendugisampate jah. The do this, the this in do this. What's the this in do this?

Gyaltsabje says, think about other people. Think about other people. Do this.

Think about other people. And do it this way means motivated by those thoughts in your words and your actions, then serve them. So, the reason he says, do this and do it this way, he means, do this means decide you're going to work for others.

And do it this way means, then in your actions, do everything I've listed for you in this reading so far. Give them all your clothes. Give them your time.

Whatever you get, steal it from yourself and give it back to people. And it's really, really a happy way to live. Just the minute you get something, give it away.

There's no... Just from experience I can tell you, there's nothing that makes you happier. The minute you get something, figure out who you're going to give it to.

Give it. People came up during the tour, gave us money and stuff, and we divested within two hours, sometimes half hour, sometimes five minutes. And we just get in the habit and it feels great.

You're happy all the time. It's like Christmas all day. Whatever comes in, just turn it around.

You just send it back to the world, back to the matrix. And it's a really, really good feeling. Anytime you try to save things for yourself, it just doesn't work.

It doesn't make you happy. It's a snowball. You keep everything that comes...

Oh no, my student can do a radio show. You send them out. And then it just doesn't end.

And a Buddha realm exists by virtue of this process. The reason a Buddha realm perpetuates itself is that of the karma, of just giving it away immediately when you get something. It's really fun.

It's just fun to take a 13th century old text and get people to get excited about it tomorrow at work or something. That's your big job. And you guys got to think about ways of...

I don't know how to say it. How do you get them to do it the next day? On Monday.

This class is going down on when? Sunday afternoon. How do you get them on Monday not to just forget about what you said on Sunday?

Do you have any specific things they could do? And I like some of the meditations you guys talked about. Like Vilma's.

Oh no. Cheryl gave it to me.

[Говорящий 2]
Yeah, you guys got to think of more things like that.

[Говорящий 1]
In the business talks we did in Vancouver, it was like the 10% idea. Something you can do tomorrow, by yourself, without a teacher. Go out, take your 10% out of your salary, start your own foundation.

Something like that. That you shall not do is clear. Take control of him this way means...

Gyelto Je says, like a wild horse, force him to his work. Break him and force him to his work. Who's he?

You, yeah. Or you're mine sometimes. But it means, tulwa is the Tibetan from which Vinaya came, the word.

And this tulwa, which is a different tense, it means break the horse and get him to do something good. Oh, I got C.S. Lewis' book, but it doesn't have his... He wrote, I don't know where it is.

I like the book, I'll keep it. It's about how difficult it was for him to write the book. The idea was to get...

There was an introduction in one of them that said, I wrote this book and it almost made me crazy because I had to put my mind in the devil's mind for a year to think how he would think. And that was part of what we did in the last class. Okay, so that's cool.

I think you owe me questions from the Internet.

[Говорящий 2]
Go ahead.

[Говорящий 1]
These are... Those of you who weren't here, these are... These guys are designing the homework for this class.

These are the questions we... Oh, for the last class. Somebody dumped them on you?

I don't mind to read them.

[Говорящий 2]
No, no, no.

[Говорящий 1]
You want to read them? Okay, go. Loud though, so it picks up on the...

[Говорящий 2]
What are the three types of situations you find yourself in when you encounter others? What are the mental afflictions associated with those situations?

[Говорящий 1]
And what's the answer? Yeah, jealousy towards higher people, competitiveness towards equal people, pride towards lower people. Okay.

[Говорящий 2]
Master Shantideva suggests we practice these attitudes without any misgivings at all. What is the purpose of this exercise?

[Говорящий 1]
That's cool. Like, Master Prajnaparamiti says, normally there's afflictions. But here we're using...

we're getting into that mode to see how wrong it is so we can purify those mental afflictions. Okay.

[Говорящий 2]
How does the view that we have progress in the course of these six verses?

[Говорящий 1]
Well, that's hard. That's hard. That's a lot.

Okay. I think it might be too big. We'll see.

[Говорящий 2]
One who thinks they are superior in their relationship, wanting to receive honor and respect, what is a useful exercise to practice?

[Говорящий 1]
What is a useful exercise? Yeah, I think so. That was the point, right?

You pretend you're the object of this Sikh Bodhisattva and see how it feels. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Говорящий 2]
What is the purpose of attempting to be yourself through others' eyes? Again.

[Говорящий 1]
I think it's the same thing, yeah.

[Говорящий 2]
And then, which situation is being described in verse 147?

[Говорящий 1]
I don't remember. Is this where we start to be competitive, maybe? Yeah, we switch from jealous to competitive.

Okay.

[Говорящий 2]
Does anybody have any more questions?

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah.

[Говорящий 2]
Who does they refer to and who does them all refer to in verse 143 and how does this verse position both the Bodhisattva and the students?

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, them all is all living beings, right? And it's not very clear from the root.

[Говорящий 2]
How is it that practicing jealousy, competitiveness, and pride can lead to exchanging yourself with others?

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, okay.

[Говорящий 2]
Sorry.

[Говорящий 1]
Okay. All right. Good.

So, I'll use them. Any meditation from last time? I guess you just try to do it.

Yeah, I guess you just... That would... Yeah, especially the jealousy one, right?

I think the jealousy one. And go through every stage. Step of it.

This is like the holiest teaching in Buddhism, maybe? It's very famous. Bhakchenyamje.

To really learn to sit in another person's shoes. And I think it's worthwhile, as you teach people, to also encourage them to do a normal old exchange of self and others. Imagine you're the person sitting there on that cushion, looking up at you at 8 o'clock on a Friday night, and it's hot, and they've been sitting here for five hours straight, and they have to go teach a class, and what would they like?

What would they enjoy? What would they be happy to have? Then on a more advanced level, like...

Srirangela Sopayi. What's that mean? From the dake.

From the sanna. Equal, generous, etc. What's that mean?

Formals of a lama. What are they? Say, she, gay, wang, dak.

She gay, wang dak. She gay, wang dak. Sometimes you have to be Mr. Nice Guy. Like Shiva. Dalai Lama on a good day. For many people.

Then gay is like generous. Like, let's have a party. Let's go to dinner.

Let's go to a movie. Harry Potter's coming out tonight. Let's go.

You know what I mean? That's genpa. No, a lama should have that mode.

You should be able to go into peaceful mode and party mode. Generous mode. Then wang?

Powerful. Powerful mode. Like, you know, strong.

But not dak yet. What's dak? Dak is like hit the student when they need it.

You know? Hit him on the head. Yell at them.

Scream at them. Kick them. Whatever.

You know? And you are praying in the sadhana, in the Vajrayogini sadhana. Siddhangela Sopayi.

May I have these qualities. May I learn these qualities. So, why did I bring that up?

Ultimately, the exchange has to be you and your students, right? Like, as you teach this exchange of self and others, exchange of self and others. Exchange.

What would they like? What would they need? And I think you will come up against this distinction.

What would they like and what would they need? You see what I mean? As any good parent does.

Right, Mr. Will? You know, she would like to eat a hook, to eat the spinach. You see what I mean?

And then, that requires parents to go into Siddhangela Sopayi. Into the four... Okay, no, really.

You know that. So, I think, you bring that in your meditations and exchange of self and others in the sense of... It's easy to be the Shiva Lama.

It's easy. You just say nice things. You give them nice things.

You give them cookies. You give them desserts. You make everybody feel nice.

Then they go home and die. You know what I mean? Then you got to go...

At some point, you got to push a little bit. You know? I mean, what they want and what they need might be different.

And you might have to be forceful or you might have to push them a little bit or you might have to get them into... Lama... Who is that?

Swami Satyananda calls it... No. Agora.

It was Swami called Agora. He said, put them into the... Start a...

What do you call it? Drama. Start a drama.

Meaning, put the student in an uncomfortable position. And then they will attack you. And then we'll get some fireworks going.

And then they will get put where they want to be put. I saw a movie on the plane last night without the sound because I never... I have too much pride to buy the earphones but I watched the whole thing anyway.

And... I'm confessing everything.

[Говорящий 2]
Your battery died.

[Говорящий 1]
Oh, my battery died, yeah. That's the only reason. On my laptop.

But it's about this hockey coach who won the Olympics against the Russians Impossible Odds. It's called the Miracle or something like that. So Kurt Russell is up there.

In order to get the hockey players going he yells at them and he throws the table over with all the drinks on the floor and he calls everybody stupid and one guy is injured and he knocks the ice off his leg and then he walks out. On the way out he's like to his assistant that ought to get him going. And...

What I'm saying is that exchange yourself with others but are you going to be them looking at you wondering when they're going to get refreshments? Or are you going to be them on their deathbed wondering why the hell didn't they help me more than they did? You see what I mean?

That's the thing. That's what I'm saying. There's immediate needs and you can go there.

You know? But then there's ultimate needs. Are they...

I had a Lama in... when we talked about putting computers at Sereme he said no. And I said why?

He says it'll distract them. And I said well what if we just take the worst students who are going to fail anyway? The Geshe course.

What if we take the dropouts from the Geshe course? He said that's even worse. They'll remember on their deathbed that they'll be thinking about compu...

They'll curse you on their deathbed. He's like that. He's very hard.

You know? Oh, don't even tell me. But anyway.

Okay? Okay, but anyway. What I mean is when you do this exchange with your students do it with them on their deathbed and not today.

Okay? But what... what do they need to get them out of the ultimate sufferings of life?

You know, what... Don't put yourself in their mind as far as their favorite restaurant or what kind of cookie they like or how hot it is. Like, it's very difficult but you've got to go here.

Put yourself in their mind in the future as they are dying. Why didn't they help me more at ACI, you know? Why didn't Mark Minervini push me to do a lay room?

Why didn't he agree that I didn't have to do a lay room or I could do a work lay room and still do my normal work? And, you know... That's what I'm saying.

Don't... Don't let them go to their deathbed thinking, God, why didn't they tell... Why didn't they work me harder?

They were in the position to make me work. They were my teacher. You know?

That's a grave responsibility, right? That's a hard dak-chen-nyam-je. That's really hard to do.

You know? So do that. Exchange yourself with them on their deathbed and then do the right thing and they may not like it.

They may not want to work that hard. They may not feel comfortable. They may want to go do something else.

They may think you're being too tough on them. And... That's what I'm saying.

When you do the exchange, do it in an ultimate way. That's all I got to say. Thank you.

Be good teachers. Work hard. Meditate.

Yeah, meditate on it. Meditate on it. Please.

Then you'll see levels that I didn't see. I think especially in the third one, right? Yeah, yeah, go.

One quick question.

[Говорящий 2]
Yeah. When we're meditating on the practice and using this as a training for bodhicitta and hopefully achieving bodhicitta, what realizations should we be looking for outside of us?

[Говорящий 1]
I think that. I think that. Where...

There'll be an initial feeling of exchanging self with others which is, this person would like some tea right now. This person is tired. They would like me to play some soothing music right now.

You know, small... And you have to do those too, okay? You can't ignore people's need for coffee.

If they need a coffee, you should make one. And then you should save them from all this. Be a nice person initially.

You will become super sensitive to people's needs. You know, this person is uncomfortable right now. I sense it.

I feel it. I sense how uncomfortable they are. I shouldn't say stuff like that.

You see what I mean? And on an immediate sense, you'll get very sensitive to other people's moment to moment, how comfortable they feel. And you want to make them feel comfortable.

You don't want to make people wait for you, for example, or things like that. You sense their discomfort, you know? It's five, ten minutes, you know?

You were supposed to start the class. What is he? You see what I mean?

As you get better at this, as you do long retreats, you feel those people's thinking, you know? Like, you don't want to inconvenience or make people uncomfortable. Because it's like burning your heart.

You feel it. They've asked you for something and you haven't given it to them. Like that.

You start to feel... We call it wah-wah. You start to feel other people thinking about you.

Like, why isn't he uncomfortable for me? You see what I mean? That's short term.

Then long term I think you become very sensitive to people's ultimate problems. You see? What they really need fixed that they don't even know they need fixed.

You see? Like, ultimately the Dakshin Yamje is like, Man, he had information that would have prevented me from dying and he didn't deliver it to me. Well, you see what I mean?

Don't set yourself up for that kind of thing. You see what I mean? We're in a realm where nothing works.

We're in a realm where everything is screwed up. We're in a realm where people get old and die. Unnecessarily.

Right? It's a boo-boo. You have the power to repair it.

You have the power to give someone the opposite. And then do the exchange on that basis. You see what I mean?

Give them what they really need that they don't even know they need. My boss required that we read the chairman of Sony's book. And Sony's corporation's motto, the way they run the company, is give the customer what they haven't thought of that they need yet.

Like, put features into your camera or your TV or your DVD player that they didn't even want yet. Anticipate their wants for next week, next year. They put stuff in cars that no one thought of a year before anybody wanted it.

You see what I mean? So it's like that. Anticipate what they're going to really need.

And I think then you'll get good at that. We'll do a dedication, okay?

[Говорящий 2]
Okay, cool. We'll go jump. Yeah, yeah.