Вступление на срединный путь (текущий курс, Аризона), занятие 2
Вступление на срединный путь (текущий курс, Аризона) · записи курса ↗
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[Speaker 1] These are some questions you could ask. You try to start a controversy. You say, because... and then you say any wrong thing in the world. Because Je Tsongkapa didn't write the greatest book on emptiness. [Speaker 2] Says who? [Speaker 1] Then you say, bad reason. Tag ma droop. Tag ma droop. I start with because. It doesn't matter what I'm proving. If I say, because the sky is green, it's wrong already. I could be proving why you should buy me a maple donut. You should buy me a maple donut because the sky is green. Then you could say, bad reason. It doesn't matter what I'm trying to prove. So you just start out with a bad reason. Because Je Tsongkapa didn't write a good book on emptiness. Oh, he did write a good book on emptiness. Duh. Sure. What's that great book on emptiness? [Speaker 2] Gomba Raksa. [Speaker 1] Oh, Yimba Ta. You're telling me it's Gomba Raksa? [Speaker 2] I think so. [Speaker 1] No, it's not, because Gomba doesn't mean anything. Then you go like this, you know. You weren't here last time. Gomba doesn't have a meaning, right? [Speaker 2] It must have some kind of a meaning because he wrote it. [Speaker 1] Oh. No, Gomba doesn't have a meaning. Gomba doesn't have a meaning, right? Where's Gomba? [Speaker 2] Gomba doesn't have a meaning, right? What is the meaning? [Speaker 1] Yeah, true thought or true intent, right? Okay, true thought. For example, in the study of Chang'e, there are four ways to know that the Lama is not speaking literally. And one of them is, or three, three. One of them is, he had a Gomba. He or she had a Gomba. Like, they had something else in mind. When Buddha said, kill your mother, kill your father, there was a Gomba. Which means, his true thought was, you should not be attached to your family when you're in spiritual studies. Okay, so that's Gomba. Yeah. No, it's not, because Raksa doesn't mean anything, Vilma. Yeah. Oh, Raksa does mean something? What does it mean? It means illumination. Yeah, very clear, extremely clear. Okay. So here's an old debate from Nagarjuna's time. So, what is he illuminating? He's not illuminating... I say because he's not illuminating anything. I make a... You just start a debate with a... with a... with a argumentative statement, right? Like, with a false... with a hot statement, you know? Like, he's not illuminating anything. With this book. This book is not illuminating anything. Any other book. Oh, you're telling me it is illuminating some other book? What book is it illuminating? [Speaker 2] Chandrakirti's Uma Lajupa. [Speaker 1] Oh, yeah. Chandrakirti's Uma Lajupa, right? Uma Lajupa. Uma La... Say Uma. Uma. La. [Speaker 2] La. [Speaker 1] Lajupa. Lajupa. No, it's not, Miss Becky. Quit looking at your computer. Because Uma doesn't mean anything. Oh, so Uma does mean something. By the way, it's not Thakmandu. Say Thak. Thak. It's a T unaspirated. Listen to this. Okay, listen. Thak. Thak. Thak. Thak. Thak. Thak. Two completely different sounds. If you don't get this straight, you'll never be able to translate, okay? Because cheap and jeep will sound... I'll give you the example. I had some Thai people working for me in the diamond business. We were in Bangkok buying rubies. And there were three companies that helped us. Lear Gem, Real Gem, and Rare Gem. Right? And they would come and ring on the bell, and they'd say, Little Gem is here. Little Gem is here. I'd say, Is it Real or Lear or Rare? And they'd say, Oh. You know? Because to them, L's and R's sound the same to them. You see? So, you know, to you, Ta, ta, ta, da, na, na, sounds the same. Roughly, da. Say, ta. Ta. Ta. Ta. Ta. Da. Da. Da. Da. Six different sounds. And you got to learn them. Otherwise, in your mind, it's all Rare Gems. It's all... No, it's all... You know? And you'll never learn. You'll never learn because they all sound the same to you. We'll talk about that. Anyway, here you can... Here's a real example. Don't say, Tak Madhub. Go, Tak. Tak Madhub means I couldn't get a robe. Tak Madhub means bad reason. So, which one do you want to say? Tak Madhub. Yeah, Tak Madhub. Okay. So, we were at... Uma doesn't have a meaning, right? Tak Madhub. Yeah, Tak Madhub. Tak Madhub. So, Uma does have a meaning. Duh. What is it? [Speaker 2] In a way. [Speaker 1] It means what? [Speaker 2] No. [Speaker 1] Middle. [Speaker 2] It means middle. [Speaker 1] Yeah. Middle way. Uma. Okay. Uma Lajupa. Oh, sorry. Yeah. No, it doesn't because Jupa doesn't mean anything. Juk doesn't mean roach in Yiddish. They used to call me Juk in the diamond business. Hey, Juk. Right? Anyway. What is it? Juk doesn't have a meaning. Uma Lajuk doesn't have a meaning. Tak Madhub. So, Juk does have a meaning. Yeah. What does it mean? Enter. To enter. Okay. No, it doesn't because that doesn't mean anything in Sanskrit because it doesn't have a Sanskrit equivalent. [Speaker 2] Uma Lajupa. [Speaker 1] The Jukpa. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. So, what is it? Avatar. Avatar. Avatar. Avatar. Entering the middle way. Okay. So, the full title of this book is Tenja Chenbo Uma Lajupej Nam she gomba rabse, shejawa shukso, right? You should memorize that for the debate ground. That's just what we did last week. That's all we did last week. It's not so much. I mean, in the monastery, you might be expected to memorize three or four pages for the next class. Okay, we'll start with the title. So it's just, uh, tenchu, say tenchu, tenchu, chenpo, chenpo, umala jukpe, umala jukpe, namshe, namshe, gomba rabse, gomba rabse, shejawa, shejawa, shukso, shukso. Oh, yeah? So tenchu doesn't have a meaning. Tenchu. Tenchu. Gail, tenchu doesn't have any meaning. [Speaker 2] Um... [Speaker 1] Heh heh heh. [Speaker 2] Uh... Yes, uh... [Speaker 1] Tamadru. [Speaker 2] Tamadru. [Speaker 1] So tenchu doesn't have a meaning. [Speaker 2] Du. [Speaker 1] Sho. [Speaker 2] Commentary. [Speaker 1] Yeah, commentary. So any commentary is a tenchu, right? No. Okay. Yeah. No, classical commentaries are called tenchu. Okay. Normally, normally. So tenchu means the commentary that was written in India. Okay? Tenchu. Yeah. And there's a long explanation. It means to fix something. It's a... Is it a shastra or a shastra? Shastra. I don't remember anyway. See, that's an example in Sanskrit. If you say shastra, it means one thing. If you say shastra, it means a different thing. Shastra... I forget which is which. I think shastra is a sword. And then shastra is a commentary. You see? So long A, short A in Sanskrit are important. That's a long story. We'll do that someday. Are we on yet? [Speaker 2] What defines classical commentary? [Speaker 1] Classical means written by the Indian pandits. Okay. As opposed to the Tibetan pandits. So not... You'd be like being... What do you call it? Hubris? If you called your book a tenchu? Yeah. Okay. What do they call it when you translate a tenchu? Do you know? [Speaker 2] No. [Speaker 1] No, what's that called? Translated tenchus are called what? Shastra? Tengyur. Okay. Tenchu gyurwa. Okay. Which means... So the tengyur in Tibet, the canon, our canon, our holy books, three and a half thousand books from India that were written by non-Buddhas. They were written by normal people. And then what's the Buddha's books called? Kangyur. Okay. So kangyur and tengyur are holy books. Kangyur is about a thousand works. And then... Fifteen hundred. And then tengyur is about three thousand. Three thousand tenchus on the Buddha's own word. Okay. So we're studying a commentary on a tenchu. So, Je Tsongkapa doesn't call his book a tenchu. He calls it a namsay. Right? Which means what? Do you know? Commentary. Commentary. Like a plain old schmuck commentary. Okay. An explanation. We translated it as explanation, right? An explanation of the classical comment... Gomurabsa, which is an explanation of the classical commentary called Umalajupa. Who wrote Umalajupa? Yeah? What's a namdao? Sorry? Namdao? Namdao also means commentary. Okay. Is it a different namsa? Not much different. In the monastery, namdao refers to a particular commentary by Chandrakirti. His commentary on logic. Dharmakirti. Yeah, sorry. Dharmakirti. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. So, namdao as opposed to... But they're the same thing. And there's many other words for a commentary. Okay. So... Okay. We're still not on, right? [Speaker 2] We're on in terms of sound. We're just not on Your computer seems to have a firewall on it that it didn't have last week. I didn't put it there. Upgrade? Update? [Speaker 1] I couldn't get online all week after the last class. So, it hasn't been online. [Speaker 2] No? [Speaker 1] I haven't been online. [Speaker 2] You know, I could upload from this class, right? Oh, yeah. [Speaker 1] I probably broke it. Sorry. No, no, I don't mind. It saved me a lot of headaches. [Speaker 2] Yeah, well, probably the class is on Friday, or Monday. [Speaker 1] Don't worry. Okay. No, don't worry. [Speaker 2] Yes, I'm working on that. That we do have sound? We do have sound. We've actually... You've been online the whole debate. [Speaker 1] Oh. Well, we just reviewed. Well, then, I'll just start, and you tell me when you're ready. We'll just do some orally, okay? I had this great idea, okay? You're in trouble. When I was designing this class, thinking about this class, I had two books in mind. One is Gom Barab Sao, and the other is called Uma Chidin. Say Uma. Uma. Chidin. Chidin. And I had this, like, crisis, personal crisis. I didn't know which one we would do. Uma Chidin is a Gong Sao of Gom Barab Sao. What's that? It's somebody's idea about what the true thought is of the true thought. Okay? So, somebody's telling you what Tsongkhapa really meant when he was telling you what Chandrakirti really meant. Okay? So, it's called the real meaning of the real meaning of what? Of Madhyamika. Okay? Get it? So, this is the way... This is called onion-skin theory of commentary. So, you have Lord Buddha, and then Nagarjuna, Arya Nagarjuna writes something about him, and then there's about ten other commentators. We're on, like, the twelfth level now of onion removed from Lord Buddha. And they are clearer and clearer the later you get. They are more and more western the later you get. If I sat down here and tried to teach you Prajnaparamita by Lord Buddha, you wouldn't get it at all. Like, he was speaking to people with way beyond our capacity. And then, even in the monastery, not many people read Gomadamsa. Okay? Because Jetsun Kappa is still beyond everybody. So, like, 100 to 200, 300 years after Jetsun Kappa, there were Tibetans who wrote explanations of Jetsun Kappa. Okay? And to me, those are the most exquisite things you could read. And nobody reads them in the West. Nobody knows how to read them. Okay? Because they're written in debate style. They're written in dialectic. You know? It's a debate. Every beautiful point in there is argued as if you were in the debate ground. So, people just haven't learned to translate them because they're difficult. Especially because you might start with a wrong idea. You see? Normally, you start with a wrong idea and then you go to the right idea very slowly. But it confuses translators. So, personally, I think that those books, which are the monastic textbooks, right? So, it's like ACI courses. Somebody wrote the first one. And then all the other Dharma groups look at them and say, Oh, we need stuff like that. You know? So, then, like, FPMT does a... What do they call it? Geshe Kelsang Gyatso. I gave him a copy of all the books one day. But... And then, suddenly, they have a similar course. You see? So... No, that happened in the monasteries. Like, actually, it was Sarah J. that started it, I think. I hate to say that. And then Sarah May saw it and, like, wrote their own version of these, you know, textbooks, like an ACI course. So, each college... There are six great colleges in the three great monasteries. Sarah May, Sarah J., and then Losaling, and Gomang, and Ganden... What is it? Sharze and... What's it? Ganden? I forget. What's the other one? Jangze, yeah. So, there are six great colleges. So, each one has their own set of textbooks. Okay? Those are incredible. Like, no one's been working on those. No one's been translating them. It's the best way to learn Madhyamika. It's the best way to learn emptiness. So, I'm faced with this crisis, personal crisis. I can only have one. I can only do one. I can either do Jetsun Kapa, who's very famous, and his book is so difficult that no one's really translating it. I mean, some people have done parts. Or I can... And then I don't leave you... with Madhyamika book of our monastery. You see? Because it's very hard to translate. So... So, then I decided to go with the big guy, Jetsun Kapa. And then when I was sitting here last week, I went home and I figured out, if we work hard, we can do both. Like, if we work really hard, we could translate both in the next six years. You know? But then we have to work a little hard. Okay? That's the thing. You know? And it's really cool because they clarify each other. And... So, my proposal is to do both. Like, it's ambitious to do one, but I always try to do more than I can. Then I figure you get done with something smaller. Right? So, anyway, we'll try to finish both. Okay? So, who wrote Uma Chidu in it? I mean, I'm just going to blab until you get me my text. Say, Kedrup? Kedrup. Demba? Demba. Dargay. He's like 16th century, I think, 1576. I'll give you the dates later when I have my computer. But, he's the great textbook writer of ceremony. Like, he wrote 75% of the textbooks from our monastery. You ready? Oh, you're on? [Speaker 2] Yeah, yeah. [Speaker 1] Okay. Yeah. Where do I plug into online? [Speaker 2] Oh, you're on. It's wireless. [Speaker 1] Oh, it's wireless? [Speaker 2] I should plug it in. [Speaker 1] Yeah. That's mine. Ah, nope. [Speaker 2] I'm going to spell it for you. Yeah. [Speaker 1] You guys do that. I'll keep talking. So, Uma means Majimika. Chi means general, like Chicheda. You know that, right? And Dun means meaning. So, Chidun means... It's like... What do you call it? I call it an overview of Majimika. Chidun. Okay? So, it's... Chidun means an overview. And I'll get the text up for you slowly and we'll spell it and everything. Yeah, we'll put it on... It's been input by our input people. I need somebody to contact Gene Smith and get a scan. Okay. Because we typed it in... Let me tell you the story of this book. They didn't have any money. They didn't have... They were in a refugee camp in... Oh, you have to hit this thing. Are these two things like this? Yeah, and then you... Is it? I guess thinking about it. You want to try? Oh, we're up. Okay, we're up. So, Chidun means... And a Chidun is as opposed to a Thatcher. Say Thatcher. Thatcher means a fine analysis of Majimika. So, normally, in Tibet, in a monastery, they'll have two textbooks for each subject. So, when you study Middle Way, you have a Chidun and you have a Thatcher. So, Chidun gives you an overview and a Thatcher gives you like extensive analysis. And you normally study both. Like, for the perfection of wisdom, it takes 12 years to get through the Thatcher. Okay? And we did it. And then Chidun... Uma Chidun takes four years normally. Okay? And this book was printed when they came out of Tibet. A lot of sections were done by memory. They didn't have... They had one original. The pieces were ripped up. They were in a refugee camp. They got calcium and charcoal and mixed it together. And then they wrote on a rock a real lithograph. And then they laid sheets of like toilet paper on it. And we studied from those. Like, we had one copy. You had to read it upside down while the lama was teaching it. And... So, this has been input from like that. But since then, they found copies that got out of Tibet earlier. So... And a lot of the textbooks in Sarame were saved by the computer project. The monks didn't have copies. No copies. Like, of dependent origination, the 12 links thing. There was no copy in the monastery for like 15 years till we started the computer project. And we saved that book from Russia. So, like that. We'll be studying the Chidun. I think it's the greatest book on Manyamika. You know? It's unbelievable. So, it clarifies Jetsun Kapha's work. So, we're going to just chuck it on both. Okay, here we go. Oh, what's your homework? I want everybody by next class to write out their version in 300 words or less of the first two principles of translation. Okay? Last week, we did the first principle, which was what? Yeah, define your audience. Okay? So, 300 words or less, everybody. Everybody is going to get a job here. Okay? Everybody who stays here in the next few weeks is going to get a different job. Some people are going to work on drawings we want for the book. Some people are going to work on doing the scans. Some people are going to work on hypertexting. Some people are going to work on getting it into different languages. Like that. Okay? Everybody will have a different job if you stick around. Okay? And then I thought we'd just do the book all together. Okay? And again, we'll come out with six parts in the next six years. So, however far we get in the first year, Diamond Cutter Press will print that. And then we'll go like that. Okay? So, Elliot, the first job is find me the scans. Okay? Mercedes, check the St. Petersburg Catalog. See if the books are there. The Cheater. Okay? I made one mistake last time. I told you the two scans we had for Gombrupsell were from Labrum and Tashi Lumbo, but I made a mistake. It's Tashi Lumbo and Kumbum. Okay? Tashi Lumbo is the first Panchen Lama's monastery. You're going to learn about it in the Tantric class. Kumbum is where Je Tsongkhapa was born. And it was a great monastery for many years until it was... They were both burned. But Kumbum has a special tree that, by tradition, has a thousand leaves on it. And each one had an image of Je Tsongkhapa on it. So, ku means body or image and bum means 100,000. 100,000 leaves. So, they named the monastery 100,000 bodies. Kumbum. So, Kumbum is out in East Tibet. So, we have two... We're working with three additions. One put in New York, one from Chicago, one from L.A. Get it? Like, we have one from Lhasa, one from Tashi Lumbo, which is south of Lhasa, and then we have one from out in East Tibet. So, we'll compare the three to make sure we have a good text. Which is principle number two. Okay, just to make it easy. Make sure you have a good text. And if you can get different copies of the text, get different copies of the text. Okay? When you're working with Sanskrit, it's a lot more important because they're all handwritten. So, there is no standard text. Like, Yoga Sutra, we went out and got handwritten copies and palm leaf copies. And we are defining a definitive text. In Tibet, thank goodness they had carving. So, you only have to deal with about five different versions of the book. Okay? They didn't have metal printing or offset printing. Okay? So, second principle of translation. Make sure you have collected as many copies of the text as you can. Otherwise, you can translate the thing and then you find out you have a bad copy. And you just wasted six years of your life. Okay? So, that's the second principle. Make sure you have a good copy of the text. Okay? Get an input. So, you can do instantaneous analysis of it. You know, does this word occur later on in the text? Okay? Like that. Make sure you have scans in case the input is bad. Okay? In case the typing is bad. So, you want scans. You want different versions. You want it typed also. Type is searchable. Scans are not. Okay? Not yet. Okay? So, you want a good edition. Okay, those are the first two principles. I'm going to show you the third principle tonight. Okay? You've got to love what you're doing. Like, do what you have a passion for. You know, I meet all these people that want to be translators. You know, want to be? You know, want to be translators. I want to translate. It's just something they have in their mind. I'd like people to think I know how to translate. You know? But then I say, okay, are you going to put in ten, twenty years of hard work? Do you have a passion for it? Do you really want to do it? You know, you have to like, love it. You know, you have to have like, you'd rather do this than eat or sleep or drink. Okay? Really. Or you won't be good at it. Find what you have a passion for and do it. You know? Like, in your life, in general, find what you have a passion for and then do it. You know? And it may be this, it may not be this. By the way, if you don't have a passion and you still want to sit here, it's fine. Okay? And if you don't want to be a big translator, I don't care, that's fine too. But in life, you should find what you have a passion for. Like, what would you cut your arm off to do? You know? And find it. You know? So, I'm... You got to find the one book that you have a passion about. You know? Like, don't translate something you don't believe in. Like, people in colleges translate stuff and then they write an introduction that says, this is no good, I don't believe in this thing. Are you kidding me? You're going to spend ten years of your life on something that you don't believe in? You know? Find the book that you do believe in and translate that. You know? So, I mean, you got to have this undeniable... I read Martha Graham's autobiography. It stops halfway through the last sentence because she died. Jackie Kennedy edited it. And in there she says, I keep telling my dancers you got to have passion. And then I tell them it's the worst thing that can happen to you. You know? Because you can't eat, you can't sleep, you can't think about anything else. You're just obsessed by that. You get this new idea for a new dance and people complain about her. She said, she's like... She was 96 when she died. She lied about her age. She told everybody she was 76. She was doing full splits into the air with the one foot that still worked. Like up to her 80s, you know? And she lied to everybody and told them... Because she couldn't stop. And she said she'd go home and she couldn't sleep. She had to drink like three gins to get to bed because she was in such pain. But she couldn't stop dancing. It's got to be like that. You got to have a passion for what you do. And you know, a few people in here will and that's fine. But I urge you to find what you have a passion for. How does passion develop? It comes from thinking about what's going to happen if you translate this thing. You see? What's going to happen if you translate this thing? What happens if these ideas get into our culture? What happens if science runs itself by karma and emptiness? What happens if Christianity and Judaism start getting attracted to the idea of emptiness and karma? What happens if business people and soldiers, generals are running their lives by emptiness and karma? What happens? What happens if Ford and GMC, General Motors are running off of emptiness and karma? They'd be having competitions to give away cars in the third world so their stock would go higher. Not because they're nice people. Not because it's moral. Not because it's nice. Because that's the only way to get your stock price up. You see? What would happen if everybody started thinking like that? The third world would get everything they need and GMC and Ford would be very successful. Like it's a win-win. You see? It's very cool. If this idea infected our world, our culture, you can't imagine what would it be like. It'd be like heaven. You see? What if everybody realized the only way to get anything is to give it to another person? What if they became convinced of that? Then what would the world be like? You know? It'd be unbelievable. And this is the idea. These are the ideas. you can easily, it's easy to have a passion for this stuff. You know? Man, you spread, you get this idea into your culture. What would happen? You see? That's what we are. We're like viruses. This is root-level virus. Foundation-level virus. You gotta have authentic materials that you can turn people on to. Like today, Chase, Doubleday Random House wrote us, you know, like, Christy, you gotta write that book. We need the book. You know? And then we said, why are you asking us for books? You have a thousand books you get every week. They said, yeah, but they're not authentic. You guys got this authority. You know? You have the texts. You have the ancient lineage. You know? So, they said, we'll print ten of your books before we'll print the rest of them. Anybody else's. We don't care if we come out with ten of your books in a row. And don't come out. The Pope, the Pope is publishing with this guy. No. The Pope's books are published by the same editor. You know? The Catholic Church's catechism was published by the same editor. You know? And he's like, you have the, you have the lineage. You know? You guys have the... So, you can get excited easily. It's not hard to get excited about this text. You know? This is it. This is the greatest presentation of those ideas. You know? So, be a little passionate. Okay? Put your heart into it. Think about what's gonna happen. If you don't, then you'll never make it. It's a long road ahead. It's a lot of work. Okay? You're welcome to hang out. I mean, you can watch the translation, come out and think about it. That's fine. But, throw your heart into it. If you're gonna work on this, go home, memorize the stupid things. You know? Memorize the title. Okay? For debate. And then go out on the debate ground and put your heart into it. You know? Like, don't waste your time there. Like, grab a hold of somebody and ask him any dumb thing. Like, you didn't eat breakfast this morning. You know? And then he'll say, Dharma Dhruv. And he'll say, well, you can't tell me what you had. Cereal. You know? Well, is it good or bad? Good. You can't tell me good and to bad. And then you just start like that. Okay? But keep your mouth going for now. Okay? Don't stop. Okay? Don't stop. All right? Don't sit in the back and, oh, I can't do that. You know? You can argue about anything. You know? If you're close to somebody, you know that. Okay. [Speaker 2] All right. [Speaker 1] Can I kill this command prompt thing? Yeah. [Speaker 2] Go ahead. [Speaker 1] Okay. All right. So, let's start with the text we're supposed to be doing. And then we'll go to the text, the other text. Yeah. What I thought was, if we get enough pages done on the first one, we'll go to the second one. So that means we got a boogie. Okay. Where are we going with this? Root text. By the way, you should get this text. Ellie will upload it every day, every class, because you'll get what I worked on. You see what I mean? You'll get it laid out the way I laid it out. So you'll get updated every class. You know, you just download it. Okay. Right? [Speaker 2] Yeah. [Speaker 1] Is there an address or anything? [Speaker 2] Oh, download. It's on the bulletin board. [Speaker 1] Okay. Now I'm going to make this bigger for everybody because my eyes are as bad as yours. No, not that bad. Yeah. You can see the 100% up there. You can change that to change the size of the text. [Speaker 2] Oh, okay. This one here? [Speaker 1] Yeah. [Speaker 2] Make it 200. It makes it a lot easier to read. Whoa. [Speaker 1] It might be a little too big. [Speaker 2] It's hard to scroll across for them. Yeah. [Speaker 1] 150. 150? How's that? I hate that font. [Speaker 2] Let me make it... What do I need to do? What do I do? Okay, so push it forward? Push it forward, Benjamin, or back? Forward. There you go. That's good. Oh, there you go. All right. [Speaker 1] Okay, how's that? [Speaker 2] Oh, yeah. Oops. Can you make it higher up? Can you put it here and tiny it up? [Speaker 1] So I'll just start translating, okay? And then I'll make comments as I go. Can everybody see okay? For the book, my idea is we have the Tibetan on one side and the English on the other side. But I'd like to put it in chunks, like digestible chunks, so that people who are learning to translate, you can say, oh, like this first part we did together? Oh, denje, the first two words. Say denje. Denje. You notice some silent letters? You'll learn. Don't worry. How do you learn? Just sit here. Okay? After all, you won't say besten bestos. Okay, those first two words are denje. Okay, what is denje? Classical commentary. You see underneath? Classical commentary. What's chenpo? Great. What's umma? Middle way. What's la? Into. Okay, we don't have to translate that. Jupa? Entering. Entering. Namse? Explanation. Explanation. Gomba? [Speaker 2] True thought. [Speaker 1] True thought. Rabse? Illumination. Shukzal? Hear and contain. Hear and contain. Okay? See, it's fun. Now, some of you guys will be assigned to hypertexting. It means we will link by computer the thing, denje. It will go like this. Okay, just to show you. I'm not going to do it. Denje gets treated like that. And then down here we say classical commentary. You see? And then we link that in a computer. And then that becomes this huge dictionary that future generations can use. You see? It's called a contextual dictionary. The idea of a paper dictionary is obsolete. You see? Somebody wants to look up what denje means, they'll just push a button on TED's program and it will leap to this book and the first paragraph and it will block these two, will light up in red. And then you get to see the word really used somewhere. That's what the Oxford English Dictionary was so great about. That's why the OED is the greatest dictionary ever written for English. They had thousands of people sending note cards saying, this word is found on page four of Henry James' novel, blah, blah. It's contextual. You can see what it really means in a book. You see what I mean? Instead of just a dictionary. You see? But we need people to link them. You see? We need people to sit here and link them. So is Anthony Digg online? [Speaker 2] He's on vacation. [Speaker 1] Hi, yeah. Anthony, you're not there. But you are hypertexting, you're in charge of hypertexting, leading the hypertext crew for Umechita. And then I'm thinking of maybe, I don't know, is Venno Phil going to be around? [Speaker 2] Not until January. [Speaker 1] Oh, really? Well, maybe he gets stuck. I don't know. We'll see. Somebody likes this kind of stuff. I know those two guys like this kind of stuff. Anyway, we'll need people to help with the linking. Okay? There's like 5,000 pages of text to be linked already. That's all the ACI courses. They could be linked and it would be the greatest dictionary of Tibetan philosophy ever written. They just have to be linked. So we'll be working on that. We'll have crews working on that. Okay? Then in the future, if people are translating, the word will just jump up. You see? You put your cursor on Tantra and it will come up. Okay? And that's what we want to do. But we need bodies. We need people to help. Okay? So anyway, here we go. By the way, this should be... Oh. Oh, yeah. If I... If I give it to you, upload it as a word file, does it mess you up? [Speaker 2] No. [Speaker 1] All right. Okay. So I'm going to start putting in formatting. Okay. There's a principle that I won't mention or will I mention it? Yeah, I'll mention it. I don't know we're up to four or something like that. You will never have time to go back and clean it up. Never. I've been at Professor Thurman's house stacked with manuscripts, unfinished translations. Translated, not cleaned up. And he's 60 or something. You know? It's too late. You see? You gotta do it as you go. Like, by the time you finish tonight, the work you've done should be 90% publishable. You know? A little touch up to do. Like, Beth's worked on how yoga works. And you know, there's a little touch up but not much. The first pass through, finish it. You might die before you have time to go back. Don't... Don't leave messes. Make the translation almost complete, first time through. Okay? That's a principle. You will never have time to go back and clean it up. Ask Eli Lodge. He did a thousand page translation of Luchadarabhadra. And now we're like looking at it and saying, God, it'll take five years to go back. You know? Okay? First pass through should be almost final. That's with anything that you write for publication. Okay? Okay, here we go. We're gonna save this. I think... Okay. You guys are okay on that, right? Gaccha is extensive. The rest is okay. I'm not gonna teach you too bad. I'm just zooming through. Okay? And don't worry. Hang in there. What did we say last time? The seeds are planted. Just hang in there. Just sit there. And in a year or two, you'll be able to do it. Okay? Alright? Just sit there. I won't explain what I'm doing all the time. And we won't finish. Okay? Okay. What's this mean? Just hang in there. Just look at it. Enjoy the English. Okay? Don't worry about it. I'll give you a little as I go. Okay? Je Tsongkhapa is bowing down to somebody. Who's gentle voice? Yeah. Gentle is Manju. And voice is Gosha. Manju Gosha. His other name is Manju Sri. Okay? This is a big deal. Okay? He wrote... Je Tsongkhapa wrote ten thousand pages of stuff in the monastery. You can debate for eight hours. You can debate for a month on a single page. Like, it's unbelievable what he wrote. How do you write ten thousand of that? They say he was taking dictation from Manju Sri. You know? They say that. They say he was just taking dictation from Manju Sri. On one level, he was Manju Sri. Otherwise, it's impossible for a human being to write what he wrote. This is only one book of ten thousand pages. Okay? So, he's kind of... What do you do? He's kind of coming out of the closet a little bit here. You know? He's saying, Oh, I... First, I want to bow down to my lama. Then, he mentions Manju Sri. Okay? Then, father and son can... Yab Tse. In Tibetan, see? Yab Tse. You know Yab Yum, right? Yeah. Which means what? Husband and wife. Which means, like, holy father and holy mother. You see? So, Yab Tse means father and son. Or father and princess. And prince. Okay? Sorry, I'm trying to get up there. My cursor is not working. Oops. I don't know what happened. Let's see. It's being cranky. [Speaker 2] Maybe somebody... [Speaker 1] Yeah. Anyway, let's talk about Yab Tse. Tse is spelled S-R-A-S. Okay? And it means son or daughter. Prince or princess. Okay? So, at the beginning, he bows down to Pakpa Yab Tse. What's Pakpa? Arya. Arya. Okay, someone who has seen emptiness directly. And by tradition, there was, like, only Nagarjuna. Okay? I mean, it's very rare to find a Pakpa. Okay? Maybe in a thousand years. Maybe Nagarjuna. Something like that. Okay? So... Nagarjuna was called Pakpa, the Arya. Okay? Arya Nagarjuna. And then his son is Aryadeva. Pakpa... We'll get there. Okay? But... And then sometimes in Tibet, they call Yab Tse Sum. What's that mean? The father-son and... The three fathers... The three... The triad father-son. And that refers to Tsongkhapa and his two great disciples, Gyaltsabje and Khedugje. Okay? So, when you hear Yab Tse Sum, it... You see, Yab Tse is always some big guy with his disciple. Okay? So, here Yab Tse means... He bows down first to Nagarjuna and Nagarjuna's main disciple. Okay? Because these are the people who started Madhyamikana world. Time to pull out my battery? Uh... Yep. Let me try something else. Oh, wait. Something else came up. [Speaker 2] You have to turn it down. [Speaker 1] Oh, Microsoft Word is not responding. Should I just kill it? [Speaker 2] Um... [Speaker 1] Wait one second first. [Speaker 2] Okay. [Speaker 1] Okay. I'll keep going. Uh... So, at the beginning of any work, you are required to bow down to your Lama. Okay? That's just standard. Okay? And, um... He does that. Then he's going to start into some verses, uh... which is traditional. At the beginning, you always do a few love poems to your Lama. And, uh... That's the way you start a book. Okay? Translation. Alright, book. Go. Kill it? Die. [Speaker 2] Die. [Speaker 1] I love this part. Am I? The one who sent me. [Speaker 2] Yeah. Really? [Speaker 1] It still won't die. [Speaker 2] End. End. [Speaker 1] Oh, battery's fine. Okay, well... You know what I usually do is just... Kill it. Rarely. But, I don't have any... Should I start another word? Control-Alt-Delete? [Speaker 2] Here you go. [Speaker 1] Then what do I do? [Speaker 2] End. [Speaker 1] End now? Die. [Speaker 2] Die. Huh? [Speaker 1] Yeah. New task? Just go away. Let's start Microsoft Word again. Should I start it again? What's this Windows task? Can I kill all these things? Huh? [Speaker 2] Kill it? Wow, it just seems to... Oh, yeah. [Speaker 1] Okay, let's try again. Oh, there's another principle. Keep saving your word. No, I have this... I have this Mac... My left hand goes... Alt-F-A. Return. Just copy. Constantly. I don't even notice it anymore. Ever since the... The days of DOS. You know? Just keep saving it... With this hand, you know? Oh, man. It didn't save anything. How much did we get? Oh, that's nice. Die. Die. How do you call it? Oh, we didn't get it. Okay. Anybody save that part? Or do I just make it up? Okay. [Speaker 2] Shelter in my Holy Lama... Gentle voice... And in the realized Father and Son. [Speaker 1] Shelter in my Holy Lama... Gentle voice? And? [Speaker 2] And in the realized Father and Son. [Speaker 1] Okay. I'm going to put this there. This is what I use for... Something I want to put a footnote on. Because people won't know who the Father and the Son are. Right? And we'll get that later. Well, I'll show you how I would look it up. Okay? Just to confirm who it is. I go to this dumb little gopher window. You don't have to know it now. Don't... Don't get stressed about anything. You won't know half of what I'm doing. That's the way it is. Saya se pakpa. Yab se. Okay? Like, I know Nagarjuna is one. I think Aryadeva is the other one. I just want to confirm it. Okay? So I go... And this is a really cool dictionary. And it's not there. Anyway, we'll do it later. Something... Oh, Kyab Suk Chiyo. And I clean up the Tibetan text as I go. It has problems. I clean it as I go. Okay? And... One more thing. Oh, that's not too cool. Is that alright? Yeah, okay. Now we start some poetry. So I now have a trouble. And you help me, okay? Madhi jache, in the second line. Jache means a close friend. Someone who's, like, really tight with you. And then madhi means... You don't know that they are? Like, an anonymous... Someone who takes care of you anonymously. Like, you don't even know. Madhi means you don't even know. So what are you going to call that? You... It's... Madhi means... Well, oh, oh. This is a principle, okay? But don't put it in the principles. It's getting too many. But later. Tibetan and Sanskrit are piles of words. So it says here... World, all, friend, unknown. That's all it says in Tibetan. And then in English, you must put clauses and phrases. Okay? Those of you who know grammar, you better know grammar. You know, you don't say, you are my unknown friend to all the world. You see? You say, you are the friend to everybody in the world, even though they don't realize it. You see what I mean? You make a whole... And then it sounds like normal English and not like translationese. Yeah. So give... Stretch it out. Don't be shy. Don't do Sanskrit or Tibetan. Don't do unknown, friend, all world with hyphens between it. That's really bad translation. Translation means translate it. Change it into the person's own language. You see? We use phrases and clauses. You don't say, he is the guy from the store come. You know? You say, he is the person who came from the store today. You know what I mean? You use phrases and you use... So, now try it that way. You see? You can stretch it out. It's poetry. You can say, you are what? Yeah, like that. Yeah. But it's not... Then there's this principle where there's words for secret and he didn't use the word for secret. He used the word for... D means you got to know somebody. You see? It's like that. Unbeknownst is getting really close. Anonymous benefactors. It's like behind the scenes but it's a little too colloquial. OK, anyway, let's see. You are... Oh, humankind recently. Sorry? A what friend? Oh, oh. There's a word for hidden and he didn't use that word. You see? You are a friend... How's that? Now you don't like that? [Speaker 2] OK. [Speaker 1] A friend who serves them unknown. Is that all right? I got to buy it too. Is that all right? OK, I buy it. [Speaker 2] He serves them unknown. [Speaker 1] Oh, but then you get... You want this parallelism. You are blah, you are blah, you are blah. What did I say? You are... Comma? Unbeknownst to them. [Speaker 2] Oh, that actually has a nice... [Speaker 1] That came out right. Wow, I like that. Yeah, this might work out. We got one more UR coming. OK. Did you notice that quick save thing? OK, yeah, yeah. Just got to be a reflex on your left hand. So just for you guys, just so you know. Oh, then you got to have a footnote here. [Speaker 2] What's the I? [Speaker 1] Yeah, the I, it's a poeticism. OK? Jitenmik. Say Jitenmik. I of the world is this ancient Sanskrit poeticism for the sun. OK? Then you got to have a footnote. You see? You got to tell the person this is an ancient word for the sun. You see? The I of the world. Because in ancient times they believed that the I lit up the object. Like, alaka is a word for I and alaka, those of you who did the Seichu last night, like, dipe or alaka sometimes, is, so it was believed that the light, the I projected the object and lit the object up rather than that you were receiving the object. So it was called the grabber sometimes or the projector or the light. It's a very interesting idea that the world is coming from your I and not to your I. You see? So the I was the sun because the sun is lighting up the world. OK. Next verse. Oh, so, he's going to go through all his love poems to the lineage. So who do we start with? Who's the lord of the able ones? Yeah, Shakyamuni. OK? Shakyamuni. OK. Muni is able ones, right? In ancient times the word meant to be silent. Mauna is the practice of ritual silence. Like, we kept Mauna for three years except when I was blabbing in the quiet retreat teachings. So the old meaning of Muni was silent one. And mute comes from that. But the Tibetans chose to translate it as able one who's capable. OK? So we're following the Tibetans right now. OK. Rabjam. And poetry usually lay it out like this cause that's the way it was written. I'll give you some fun. Rabjam means it's almost impossible to translate. Oh, myriad. OK. It means a hell of a lot. Like when you go out and see the the Milky Way at night that's a Rabjam. OK, like that. It's a very hard word. Who's Islam? I'll put the cursor on Islam. Jamyang. Jamyang. OK. Manjushri. I had a lot of fights about should I put Manjushri or gentle voice, right? A lot of people said that's distracting to me. I don't know you're talking about Manjushri. I don't know that Manjushri means gentle voice. I like to translate everything cause to me Manjushri doesn't give me this feeling as a soft voice speaking wisdom in your ear. A soft voice whispering wisdom in your ear. You see, Manjushri doesn't do that for me. And it makes the book feel foreign. And I was reading a brief history of time, right? Who's that? Yes, Stephen Hawking, right? And he said he went to this publisher somebody asked him to write a book about relativity and stuff like that. So he wrote a book and he had like 15 equations in it. And he went to the publisher and he said, well, here's the book. And he said, take out every equation you put in there you lose 10,000 readers. You know? So could you cut the equations? You want me to write a book about relativity without any equations in it? See, cut them every time you cut an equation you'll gain 10,000 readers. Which means every time you put an equation in, what? You lose 10,000 readers. Every time you put in a foreign word you lose a certain number of readers. You don't remember the first day you picked up a Dharma book and it was all Manjushri and Avalokiteshvara and you're like Avalo and you just skip it. And then if the book has too many of them you set it down. And you lose those people and they don't get enlightened. You see? So it's very difficult for a person who's been doing Tibetan or Buddhism for 20 years to remember what a stumbling block foreign words are to other people. It's called Dharma Dharmanese, right? No, and why does Snow Lion and Wisdom Publications only print 5,000 copies of their biggest book? It's cause it's all Dharmanese. It's all this new language that you have to be in to read the book. You know? And if you're not in you can't read the book or you get tired after a while and you set it down cause I don't know what you know I don't know what Avalokiteshvara is or you know the Tibetans translated all these names Chenrezig means looks at you with love You know? Jampayong means whispers softly wisdom into your ear These were really sexy in Tibet You know? They didn't leave it in Sanskrit, okay? They translated it into something that would evoke emotion among their own people That's what translation's for in my opinion Okay? And I've had big fights about it, you know I think it'll it'll fly in the long run We'll see Okay There's this thing called evolution The good translations will live The bad translations will die You know what I mean? And You know, we'll see It's the survival of the fittest, right? Okay, yeah By my Lama gentle voice What do you call it? No equal What's that word? Unequaled Okay Unequaled Ah, how do you... Okay We call conversations This is like the idea the Buddhas are sitting around up in paradise and they're talking about emptiness And like Manjushri sneaks in and listens and then he like blabs it to the whole world like a lion's roar You see? But what's it like inner secret It's like a word like conversations or talk or Someone may hear profound profound condition you know Yeah, I like that It's like a private conversation The inner secret whispers Yeah, I like whisperings Is that okay? Do you guys like that? Inner secret whispers He doesn't say wisdom Oh, it's coming Let's do that and then tell me how it sounds You okay? It's like thing but I don't want to say thing Subject Object is too Calm Calm Thing is too vague It means emptiness But he calls it the profound state State? I don't want to say circle but like a It's like a private group It's like a guy's club or something See? Is that right? It's like a closed circle It means like a billion Buddhas got together and started talking about emptiness We already used inner That's a problem It means like he snuck into the meeting and he heard about this thing and then he comes out and proclaims it like a lion It's like that We can say inner circle is precise But then find me another thing for up here Inner secret whispers I like inner sanctum Yeah I like inner sanctum But then we gotta change this inner Oh yeah, I like that Let's do this Should I put other billion victors up here or leave it down there? [Speaker 2] Leave it down there? Leave it down there? [Speaker 1] Ok, cool You guys That's gonna work out That's gonna work out I didn't think it's gonna work out Ok Ok, you got it Who's he gonna do next? Yeah Oh, this one's really sexy Don't make sentences too long I used to take Russian in college And there'd be this long Soviet praise of worker of the year from Smolensk And the first thing I learned in Russian class when we got pretty good at it was cut it up Don't drag it on and make it too long If you're faced This is one sentence in the Tibetan We'll be getting into sentences of Je Tsongkhapa that last for two pages Really And you just can't do that in English You have to break it up Feed it to your reader in digestible chunks Ok So It was you This is dusum Dusum up here means the three times And we don't say that in English So I don't like that I mean people say Oh, the Buddha's of the three times But in English Normal English we'd say the Buddha's of the past, present and future Right? Something like that It's more clear It means more to a person I did this thing when I started teaching translators like 15 years ago I got a CD-ROM with all the great books of English on it And I would search that CD-ROM for words that are current in Dharmanese language like sentient being Sentient being hasn't been used in the English language in the last few hundred years only by one author Can you guess who? H.G. Wells in War of the Worlds uses the word to describe aliens You see? No, it's just some guy used it once and somebody else picked it up and see only 5,000 people in America use that word That's all the people who are Tibetan Buddhist students And then it becomes it begins to sound to you like a normal word But it doesn't it doesn't go with you can't find it in I did that It's a special project out of Chicago called what's it called? They've typed in the classics of the English language And it doesn't exist You see? And then that's another stumbling block for a normal person that wants to read your book Yeah Who's that? [Speaker 2] Yeah [Speaker 1] Doesn't Sensitive to mean just means a person who is sensitive to other people's wishes It doesn't mean sense having No, you can defend it but it's not normal English You won't I did another thing I got the New York Times for the last 20 years and Time Magazine Search for sensitive being If it's in there as meaning a living being I'll use it It's not It's one more block for a person who's trying to read their book How many new words can you introduce into the English language? What's the record? Who holds it? Shakespeare How many words? Five Five Five new words Five words Five new words Five words that weren't common in the language before he got there You can't introduce new words into your language Don't try Don't think you're gonna beat Shakespeare Really I mean, people say Oh, people get used to sensitive being No Few people Like, we were in three-year retreat Segway was invented while we were in Sedgway? And weapons of mass destruction And No, really Words get very slowly get into the language You can't Don't think you're gonna make up some new word and everybody's gonna get excited about it It won't happen OK? Really Use what people use Because you're translating OK? These are my pet peeves You'll hear more about it OK It was you that You It was you that went Now we're getting too far away from the verb Yeah, foretold How about we just break it? [Speaker 2] Could you say Buddha's for all time? [Speaker 1] It's not as powerful That's why I didn't say going for refuge up there OK? Where was that? Here Where was that? Oh, here Seek shelter See, go for refuge has become a cliche Try to pep up what you're, you know Pep it up a little bit Don't just give the dharma cliches, you know Buddha's of all time Yeah In Tibetan in the monastery You know how they complain about the dishwasher? They say Say, Dola Penche Dola Penche You pick up a dish in the monastery You know the cafeteria And it's all got you know yesterday's doll all over it You know, and you say Oh, somebody washed this Dola Penche What's Dola Penche mean? For the sake of all living beings You see But it's such a cliche in the monastery You see, it means to do something without thinking You see Oh, Dola Penche Sanye Dupasho Dola Penche You know, and you're just not thinking about it So they say when you do something thoughtlessly you did it for all sentient beings Don't just thoughtlessly buy what people are using Pep it up a little bit You know, that's principle number 28 Okay [Speaker 2] Yeah We have a question from the field Yeah If you're trying to use words you find terms you find in Time magazine You know, living terms [Speaker 1] Yeah [Speaker 2] Those gone thus [Speaker 1] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah That's true You could make it into a phrase Those who have gone that way But, it gets a little long for me Okay He's right Or she's right Okay Sorry? I'm trying to get a rhythm That's all Living in the past and the present and the future You know That's all See, see how it goes Sorry? Let's do the whole thing then let me know Let's see If you can think of a better one, we'll see It's Those gone to blues Sorry I know but I can't use We'll see Oh, sorry I made a boo-boo here Cut that Oops Oh, now I got a good one for you It says here Chakyu means a hook especially this huge one that they use for elephants on their ear to drive them If you've ever had a gaff fishing albacore tuna It's this huge hook like this big, right? on the end of a pole and there's this joke in the monastery like chakyu shot means set your hook It means if a wealthy Taiwanese person comes or something you know make sure you chakyu shot like hook this person, you know It's a joke in the monastery but anyway He says chakyu sum tseway chak tseway means love and sum means pierce me you know poke me you know How do you want to do that? It's too It's like almost sadomasochistic You know, it's like Give it to me, man You know, like Pierce me with your love hook Yeah? It's too It's too East Village, right? It's too East Village But it's like that and it means like rip my heart out you know, put that hook into my heart and just you know Hook me and take me No, but then he calls the hook tseway tsewa? tsewa means love You see? tseway chakyu means the hook of love You see? It's like that but it's too Yeah, Eli said hook of your love but it gets a little it's too it's too slow, right? It's gotta be like It's gotta be a chakra a little bit but not a like not East Village It's gotta be like rip my heart out with your hook of love or something By the way, what's chakyu mean? What's chakyu mean? [Speaker 2] Foot hook [Speaker 1] and that's that Tibetan vowel sign that looks like a hook It's called the foot hook on the I don't know It doesn't hit me The Tibetan is almost shocking The Tibetan is almost like It feels like It's too common Pierce my heart I like it Pierce my heart [Speaker 2] I think Pierce is good Pierce my heart That's true But it might be With your [Speaker 1] You gotta get a hook in there with your steel hook with your iron hook [Speaker 2] We have a suggestion back here which is pierce me with your hook of love [Speaker 1] I like iron pierce me I gotta get some metal in there somewhere I want I want metal in the guy's body No? You don't buy it? I like it OK You can come back to me next time We got like 15 We're doing OK By the way there's some there's some there's some feeling in the Tibetan of of by that he will be able to keep stay with You see what I mean? How do we convey that? Yeah Is that OK? Catch my Oh, that's interesting Is that good? [Speaker 2] Catch Seize You like? Seize is a good word Seize? [Speaker 1] You like seize? [Speaker 2] Pierce? Skewer? Cast your iron hook of love Casting the iron hook of love into my heart But it means like pull me in I'm recommending that you break it up Pierce my heart Capture Oh, I like that Pierce my heart Pull me in or something Capture Pierce my heart Pull me in Seize me Use your iron hook of love Real Retro Take me Real me It's beginning to sound like a romantic thing Is that OK? [Speaker 1] Do you buy that? [Speaker 2] I buy it [Speaker 1] OK, OK We gotta get it going I like capture It's also used for fish hooks [Speaker 2] So guess what, that double comma is always a space break usually [Speaker 1] It's for poetry You gotta have commas before and after [Speaker 2] That's what it is You can always spot it in the text [Speaker 1] If you know it's poetry Yeah [Speaker 2] This is cool [Speaker 1] Like you're all gonna try You gotta put like 20 people on the cover It's so cool It'd be a very interesting exercise to me [Speaker 2] Anyway, good name Yeah [Speaker 1] Yeah, that's the sun by the way That's the Yabze So we'll go back and We'll go back right now while you're thinking about it Is that our first footnote? [Speaker 2] I think so You are the I Yes This is This is the first one Yes How are you doing? That's basically a classical poem I realized I had the first one Oops, I messed up [Speaker 1] I'm not gonna do tencha I'm just gonna stick in footnotes like that And I like to put footnotes at the back Because I don't like them to disturb the flow of the text Yeah [Speaker 2] Sometimes I do that [Speaker 1] Yeah It's such a huge book that it might be better to do that Let's see [Speaker 2] Yeah [Speaker 1] Yeah, I know But in some ways I prefer that It breaks the flow of the text to me Even if a person really wants to know you know I never look at them But anyway I'm gonna break it The idea is that Ayadeva was a heart disciple of Ayanagarjuna Like The idea is that But I don't like the fact that we repeated the word words But But the idea is that he got this scoop from Nagarjuna And that took him up to the heights And from that point he was capable of imparting it to other people You see what I mean? I don't know Sometimes it means personal advices meaning something you tell somebody A Lama doesn't say those things in a class Like they they take the person aside and they give them some private That's what Dampa It's in Kadampa for example The word Dampa here Can we cut on? Do you think? Yeah I like that It's the old way Emptiness or liberation And I guess the thing and the implication is that he saw emptiness himself And then conveyed it to other people Okay I wanna I'm gonna pull out the other text and we're gonna I'm just gonna show you We got like five minutes left Okay So we'll upload that text Right? And you can get it that far So you have an update You have an update as far as we've done it Okay We're not doing five pages a night I'll tell you that It's more fun No, I mean [Speaker 2] No, I mean [Speaker 1] this text you have to upload So people have to No, the other one I'm gonna show you how to find the other text Okay So you're all gonna have this You're all gonna have the database if you want the database This is 300,000 pages that we've input so far And it's free and Ellie has it Okay You cannot give it to other people unless you ask because some of it is copyrighted Okay And we can't distribute it legally Okay It's okay for in-house use Okay But there are books there that are not Sorry They're okay if they're in the class Okay, here we go [Speaker 2] Is it still copyrighted on the internet? [Speaker 1] You mean a CD? They can't download the whole thing It's like 80 banks We can set up a secret location Yeah, we'll do that We'll talk about it Okay Here are all the categories that are in the database of texts But the three I want to draw your attention to are these Kangir You see Kangir in the blue? What is Kangir? Kangir is Gir means translated Kang means the speech of Lord Buddha translated into Tibetan from Sanskrit Okay So that's our canon in Tibet It's like 1,500 works Okay How many of those are Tantric? Out of 1,500 works that we have from ancient India? About a thousand I mean it's pretty extraordinary Okay Okay And then we have Sanskrit This is Sanskrit stuff This is Sumbum is what? Sumbum means a hundred thousand things they said Bum means a hundred thousand It just means a lot Somebody mistranslated Milarepa's book called A Hundred Thousand Songs And we're stuck with it now But that's another story Kangir is the translated commentaries from ancient India So if I give you a choice Are we going to look for Umajidun that monastic textbook in the ancient Indian commentaries in the Tibetan commentaries or in the words of Lord Buddha? Yeah, you go to Sumbum Okay It's a dumb question now but this is going to allow you to search for stuff Okay, so you hit Sumbum Now we got like 20 categories This was invented by the ACIP It organizes all Tibetan literature It's very cool We're studying I'll give you a few choices Are we studying Abhidharma which is Lumba Are we studying Mind Only Are we studying Perfection of Wisdom Are we studying Logic Are we studying [Speaker 2] Uma Okay [Speaker 1] It's in Uma You go to Uma Okay, Uma Yeah, middle way Then you go to Umajidun And you have like six different texts there Okay This is when we printed it in the monastery We created a lot of new tools for using the text So these are all different tools that we created at the time And we published the book and I took home a case of them And I said If I ever have some serious students You know And I kept that for like 10 years in this case You know I'll try to find it Okay But we published the Umajidun So anyway It happens to be this one here Okay This 21 Okay Yeah, that's the one S-O-O-2-1-N That's the Umajidun Okay Just to take a look at it And then we have to stop What's that thing in the first line It's Sanskrit It's Sanskrit Okay We'll tackle that next class Okay This is the ornamental Sanskrit title To make it look good The Tibetans throw in some Sanskrit at the beginning But they often don't know Sanskrit very well So We gotta work on it We're gonna clean it up And Or maybe it doesn't need cleaning, you know But Just to make it look good 700 years after they stopped using Sanskrit You know Kirupten Madarge Basically It's put a It's called an ornamental title It's like If I put a Tibetan title On the cover of our book or something And it would make it Like we did with the Yoga Studies Institute logo We left some of the Tibetan there Cause it makes it look good to Americans You know what I mean So that's what they did in Tibet too And then we'll start Those of you who wanna know Then we'll stop Right here Chidun Okay Chidun Why is it spelled Speedun You gotta You have to learn that Okay But that's Chidun We're gonna study the Chidun There's the title Okay We're gonna study the Uma Chidun Say Chidun [Speaker 2] Chidun [Speaker 1] Uma Chidun Every monastery has its own Uma Chidun This is the overview of the Middle Way Okay So we're gonna do which Uma Chidun The best one [Speaker 2] From where? [Speaker 1] Sarame Sarame Okay Okay We'll stop there Alright Let's do a Oh so your homework is just go to debate ground And debate stuff Okay What's the word for hook? Chakyu Chakyu Say Chakyu Chakyu You don't remember if a big sponsor rolls down this road you're not gonna Chakyu Okay What's love? Sewa Sewa What's a hook of love? Sewa Chakyu Sewa Chakyu You can debate that stuff You know Like that Go over the tapes Get a few things [Speaker 2] Yeah He was born near the [Speaker 1] Tsongkhapa River And then later they named the town Kumbum And then they named the monastery Kumbum Alright let's do a mandala We'll do a mandala Oh if you guys are online If you have comments questions things send them in And then we'll talk about them when we start next time Okay Alright So Okay Think of debating things Okay Who does he bow down to? He doesn't bow down to anybody in the beginning of this book You know And then They say No he bows down to Lord Buddha No he doesn't He bows down to Nagarjuna Well he bows down to both Well they must be the same thing No Nagarjuna was foretold by the Buddhists He can't be the Buddhists Oh but Nagarjuna didn't have any students Yes he did He had a student Who? Aryadeva Yeah well what did he do? You see what I mean? And then you go like that Yeah Yeah I'd like How many principles? Basically four I think Right? But I Those are not going to be formal Okay Write me out We're up to four principles now Write them out for me No more than Five Did I do five formally? Keep saving your words for tonight Oh okay Okay I want those on a piece of paper Okay By Monday Okay Five principles for translating Okay