Почему ваши дети могут быть буддами (1998, Монголия), занятие 1

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But not like that.

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Okay.

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Four body means four parts. Yeah, but we call body. In Sanskrit body is kaya.

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Okay.

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First body is ... say longku. Longku.

Longku. Okay. Longku means this is the body which a Buddha has in their own heaven.

Then it has five characteristics, five qualities, and I'll give you the five. Say tsen. Tsen.

Tsen means they always have same marks. There are 112. Yeah, 32 big ones.

80 smaller ones. For example, always hear one Dharma wheel. In the skin, they have Dharma wheel.

And the body is golden. Hair is black. Eyes are brown.

Brown eyes. And very beautiful light. This is always the same.

In their own heaven. And this we call tsen. Second one, say ne.

Ne. Ne means that place is perfect, everything perfect. Because everything comes from pure good karma, then everything is ...

well, I change it. Try to think about the best feeling you had in your whole life. Maybe some very good food, or someone touching you.

And then try to think of the best one. In your whole life, maybe one or two minutes. Then in that heaven, everything feels like that.

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All the time.

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So if they see this, this, this, this, this, anything they see, they get this feeling.

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And every part of their body feels same.

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All the time. This is meaning of ne. Say du.

Du means time. Then they will stay there until last person comes to enlightenment. Until last person becomes Buddha.

So this is third quality of long ku. Okay, number four. Say kor.

Kor. Kor. Kor means the people who are living in that place, around them.

Then their karma in their mind is making them see themselves as a Buddha. And the same karma makes them see everybody as a big bodhisattva, high bodhisattva. They can only meet those bodhisattva who saw emptiness directly.

So if you want to see this kind of Buddha, you have to be bodhisattva who saw emptiness directly. We cannot see them. Even if they are in this room.

Unless we are bodhisattva who saw emptiness directly. Okay, fifth part of long ku. Say chö.

Chö. Chö means dharma. Yeah, then in that place, the only conversation, main thing, whenever they talk, whenever they do anything, they are talking about Mahayana dharma, how to help other people.

So only talking those beautiful things in that place. And only can see beautiful things, people. And the place itself is only beautiful.

And they stay there forever. Because it's made by pure good karma. So that's the long ku.

The Sanskrit name is nice, so I'll teach you the Sanskrit name also. It's a Sambhogakaya. Sambhogakaya.

Tibetan long ku. Sanskrit Sambhogakaya. So that's the first body finished.

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Okay.

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Second body. Oh, just mistake. Dhul.

Dhul ku. Dhul ku. Dhul ku.

Dhul ku. Dhul ku. Dhul ku.

Dhul ku. Dhul ku. Dhul ku.

The first body they have, only big bodhisattvas can see it. But they like us to see them, so they like to send other kinds of body. And that's called the dhul ku.

This body comes to our places. The other body stays in Buddha heaven. But this body we can see.

Where is the other heaven? I said the other body has to stay in the heaven, where is that heaven?

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Buddha's heaven. Where? In the mind?

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No, it can be here. If you have very good karma. Then this is Buddha heaven.

Do you have extra pen? Extra? Tell them I think they forgot about the pen.

I think forgot about this. It means heaven can be here. So, when a Buddha shows a dhul ku to us, it's coming to our level, in the same room.

Have to remember that. Then you can go to Buddha heaven. Okay, three kinds of dhul kus.

Okay, first one. Say choky. Dhul ku.

Choky. Dhul ku. Choky dhul ku only comes one time in this planet.

That's Shakyamuni Gautama. Looks like that. So nowadays we cannot see choky dhul ku.

But we have pictures. Yes. And these are all choky dhul ku.

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Oh, this I shouldn't move.

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Then the second one is called choky dhul ku. Choky dhul ku. Choky dhul ku.

Choky dhul ku.

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Choky dhul ku. Choky dhul ku. Kye.

You want to say kye?

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Yeah. Shall we try?

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Maybe just a.

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Oh, yeah. Kye? No, I know one.

How about this one? Kye va. Kye va.

Just kye va, yeah?

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Good.

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Okay. I forgot, yeah. No w in.

Say kye va.

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Kye va.

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This is a special dhul ku. This is all the ... when the Buddha wants to come to help regular people, usual people, then he come as your brother, or he come as your daughter, or come like that, something like that.

Then it looks like a normal person. And sometimes, many years they act like a normal person. But sometimes when you need help very much, then they help you like a Buddha.

Then somebody told me, my daughter cannot be Buddha because she acts bad many times. And I didn't see anything like a Buddha among my daughter. And she's living with me for ten or fifteen years, I didn't see anything special.

But I'll tell you two things. There's one monk with Buddha, he lived with him for twelve years. I think his name is Lekar.

Then he said, I stayed with a Buddha, this is Shakyamuni Buddha, for twelve years. I don't see anything special. He's just a regular person.

Sometimes little bit light coming out of his head. It means we don't have good karma to see. Also, this is Keval Tukul.

Very patient. They can wait twenty years before they show you. So very big lamas they say, be very careful.

Maybe your daughter is a Buddha. Maybe your brother or your wife. So, have to be careful with everybody.

Because if you make a bad karma with the Buddha, it's very bad. Then sometimes Buddha sees that you need to learn more patience, not to get angry. So they make themselves Keval Tukul.

They come as a Keval Tukul. As your daughter or your son or your husband or your wife. Then every day they try to make you angry.

So you can learn how to be patient.

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And this is true.

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That's the meaning of Keval Tukul. So you have to be very careful about everybody. For example, I don't know, maybe everybody in this room is Buddha except me.

And many times I think it's true. Then I feel very lucky because they're asking me to teach. So it gives me a good chance to think about all these things.

Now a last kind of Tukul. Say So Tukul. So Tukul is very nice.

Buddha can come, can make Tukul as a wind. Sound of the wind. Or sound of a river.

Or a sound of the trees.

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And then if you listen very carefully, and if your mind is very clean, then you can hear Dharma. For example, when my mother died, I was pretty young, about twenty.

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Then I was doing prayer. Same day. Then outside I can hear some wind in the tree.

Then seems like talking to me about Dharma. Then it sounds like it's saying, you have to do something before you die. And this is coming from Buddha.

And we call So Tukul. So everything can teach you Dharma. Even the machine making the ku ku ku ku.

If mind is good, you can hear something. So those are three kinds of Tukul. Nowadays, a big Lama they call Tukul.

Who died and then became again like Je Tsongkapa or Dalai Lama. Then Buddha can make many Tukuls in one time. One Buddha can make million, million, million Tukuls.

It's possible everybody in Ulaanbaatar is a Tukul. Okay, that's a Tukul. So, we finished.

These two bodies are physical body. But they don't have a inside stomach or heart or blood or like that. Only made from light.

So if you say, I saw my daughter, she cut her finger and I saw blood. So I think she cannot be Tukul. That's not true, because they can make Tukul blood also.

But just for you they are making. Okay, third body. I made one mistake before.

We talked about Chokyi Tukul, Chok. Did we? And then I said Chok is Dharma.

That's a mistake. Chok means highest. This is Chokyi Tukul.

So meaning, Chok means best one, only comes one time. Okay, this is not Dharma. This is Dharma.

Okay, this is okay? Yeah, okay. Alright, now say Yeshe.

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Chukul.

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Yeshe. Chukul. Yeshe.

Chukul. Yeshe. Chukul.

Good. So we finished physical body of Buddha, two physical parts. One is the body in heaven.

One is the body they show to us.

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The body they show to us can be Buddha, can be somebody here, can be the wind in the tree.

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But those are all the physical bodies. This is mind of Buddha. Yeshe means wisdom.

And this is a very popular name for monks. Chukul means Dharmakaya. Yeah, I spelled it Dharmakaya.

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Dharmakaya. Dharmakaya.

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Dharmakaya. Dharmakaya. This is Sanskrit.

Anyway, big name. Meaning is easy. Mind of Buddha.

Then mind of Buddha is very good, because they can see everything, past time, future time, present time, in one minute. Also they can see in every country, every planet. And the most important, they can see everybody's mind at the same time.

So they know what you are thinking. All the time. So I have a question for you.

Will you become Buddha?

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Sure.

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In the future. Then at that time, can you see all the things in all the times, and all the people's minds?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, can.

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So sometimes for joke, I like to wave to myself in future.

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It's true, because Buddha, Michael, he can see me. Maybe one year from now, maybe one million years from now, but sometime I will become Buddha. So sometimes in my own room, by myself, I'm going to ...

It's good, good to remember. Okay, that's the mind of Buddha. Now last body.

Then we will finish. Because it's very good luck to finish there. Say ngo-wo, nyi, ku.

Ngo-wo, nyi, ku. This is most important body. We finished the physical part.

We finished the mental part. But one part is left. Emptiness of the Buddha.

Now you have to think carefully. What is this thing? No.

Blue stick. Now I ask you second question. What is this to human?

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Now you can say pen.

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What is this to dog?

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Bone.

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Yeah. What is it from its own side?

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Blue stick. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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If I have a human's karma, I see as a pen. If I have dog's karma, I see as bone. Something to chew.

But from its own side, it's empty.

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It's empty of pen, empty of bone.

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That's a meaning of emptiness. Emptiness is a very good thing. Because I also have emptiness.

This brown stick and this blue stick, same thing. If I have good karma, I see human's arm.

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If I have bad karma, I see dog leg.

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But a karma is very useful because if I have ... I'm sorry, emptiness is very useful. Because if this has emptiness, then I can see it as Manjushri's arm.

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So, if this is not empty, if it's an arm from its own side, then I always have to see it as arm.

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Then I have to die. And if it's a dog leg from its own side, then I always have to see dog leg. And then I have to die.

But this very good thing, it's empty. It is not arm from its own side, human know.

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Arm is coming from my mind.

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Because I have good karma. Dirty good karma. Someday that dirty good karma will stop.

Then I see, die. So, the emptiness is good because I can make pure good karma. Then later I can see as Manjushri's arm.

Then I ask you a question.

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If I see as Manjushri's arm, is Manjushri's arm coming from its own side? No, nothing comes from Manjushri's arm. Manjushri's arm has emptiness.

My arm has emptiness.

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So, only this one way I am like a Buddha. And that's very lucky. Because my arm is empty, because it's human arm is not coming from its own side.

Then if I make very good paramita, then I can see Manjushri's arm.

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So, that emptiness is the best thing. That's a little bit difficult.

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But understand, yeah? So, that's the last body of the Buddha. What time now?

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5.36?

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Okay. So, maybe uh, can you go to the hotel? Okay?

Yeah, because it's about 5.35. And I think those people will come at 6? Yeah. Then I'll come in a few minutes, after the last question.

So, two, three questions, okay, then I have to go to meet those people.

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And then don't have to write, just ask.

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Then tomorrow I cannot come, because we have special puja. Then Friday leaving. But I come back in, maybe come back May or June.

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Just moment, moment please.

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You troublemaker.

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It's a, it's a, they show respect. All those things you are doing here, all those things you are doing in America, in the name of our club, it's a sign of thankfulness. We're giving a small thing, certainly not a great thing.

It's good.

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Then say one thing.

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Okay, oh it's okay. These are personal gifts, that's our club's gift, okay?

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Wait one minute. Stay, stay. We'd like to, if you can make a place for people to study Buddhism.

Like if you can have one special room in the city. Then I will try to find some sponsor.

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To pay the rent.

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Then you put some tables. And we will give some maybe television. Then people, young people can come and watch a Dalai Lama or video, some good video.

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And also I'm going to give you many books about Buddhism. In Tibetan and English. From our school.

And also with tape.

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Then the young people especially, they can learn English and Buddhism and Tibetan same time.

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Speaking.

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Then you have some programs there also. And we will try to find some American sponsor. Then I hope in May or June, we do Dorje Chudpa in the television.

Then I ask you all to come.

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Maybe we have here or some place like this. And it will be live. In the evening.

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Then I think five days. And we will try to finish whole Dorje Chudpa. Because this, I think, is most important Buddhist book.

And maybe you don't know, but my first teachers for 15 years was Mongolian. So for me this is very holy country. Very great country.

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And Dorje Chudpa is your national book. So I like to do on television.

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And we do easy way like this, so all the people can understand.