Интервью Joy о «красных книгах»

[Говорящий 2] (0:01 - 0:33)
Okay. Okay, let's start. Hi, Joy.

Thank you for your precious time. And recently we know that teacher Peter Maria and Max and Ira and Yulia, they got a book in Malaysia. And we know that there is a little bit story between you and the giant huge red books.

So today, can you introduce yourself a little bit and also share the story between you and the books for us?

[Говорящий 1] (0:36 - 4:07)
Hello, thank you, Xinhui. Nice to see you. Yeah, I'm so happy that we got a chance to celebrate this result of Peter and Maria and Max and Ira and Yulia.

They've got the book translated by Geshe Michael, the Kamparasel. And then I'm super happy that they all got the very precious gifts from Geshe Michael. Congratulations to them.

And let me introduce myself a little bit first. This is Joy. And I am actually, how to say, I would like to introduce myself this way that actually I was born in a family with S siblings, you know.

So maybe a lot of people doesn't know me, but Xinhui, you know me very well. Yeah. So I'm just one of the kids in a very super big family.

I have like six sisters and one brother. I am living in a very happy family. And actually, when I was a kid, I was always wishing that every people in my family, all my brothers and sisters, we can all be playing together with a lot of fun and peaceful environment all the time.

But this won't happen, you know, because kids will fight with each other, you know. But in my heart, I always want to see the peace in my environment. So and now actually, so I actually, since childhood, I plan to a lot of like bring people together, bring my sister and brothers together to bring this kind of so-called world peace little seeds, you know.

But this world, of course, is my family. And then when I grow up, I try to, I am a person who really enjoy people being in like a good harmony with each other. And then I bring my colleagues together.

Now I'm working for DCIG. I'm a service department project manager in DCIG. And I'm actually coordinating with a lot of organizers.

So my goal in my work, there's only one thing in my heart is to bring people with harmony. And you know, so for family, for work, and for the whole world, everything is happening in the world right now. I also wish to see the world with a lot of peace.

And I also wish that there is no war in the world. And I think this is something that me personally, as an individual, want to introduce about myself. And I wish that one day that I can be someone who can bring the world together.

Maybe we can bring DCIG to the whole United Nations, and then to get all the people in the world to learn the Diamond Cutter, like universal principles. So this is something about me. I'm Joy, and I wish to see like the world peace in the world.

This is my self-introduction.

[Говорящий 2] (4:08 - 4:35)
Thank you for the beautiful introduction. So we all know that all the environments are coming from our seed. So I think that's why you have some story with the book.

So how about, can you let us know, what do you know about the books? And maybe a little bit, the connection between you and the book? Yeah, thank you, Xinhui.

[Говорящий 1] (4:36 - 10:41)
So this book is called The Elimination of the True Thought. And the author of the book is Jason Tabak, and is one of our great teachers, teachers, teachers, teachers, teachers, teachers, like, yeah, a very big teacher in our teaching. Yeah, and then I heard many times Jason Michael called this book from Brazil.

Although I don't know how to write it down, but I thought Jason Michael mentioned this word once, and I just remember it in my heart. So it's called Comparacel. It's in the West, it's in Western Chinese.

Yeah, language is the name. And I don't know, maybe just like you say, it's some small seed planted in the past, maybe since childhood, that I got the chance to meet this four volumes of books, volumes of the Comparacel, in Xi'an for the first time. Yeah, for the first time, when the first day we had go to pick up Michael, and then he just bring all these four volumes of books from his room.

And then he wished to put these four volumes of Comparacel in the Xi'an venue, the big classrooms, which he was teaching for three days for Disarging Level 7, Touching the Diamond World. So I think the first time I have the contact with the book is Jason Michael want to put the book on the classroom. And me and one of my colleagues, we each one of us bring two of the big books, like holding them like a baby.

And then we bring this book from the hotel room and walk away a long way to the classroom. And then we just put the books on the classroom, on the table of the classroom. And then you just stay there for people to read a little bit for the whole three days until the event finish.

And during the Xi'an events, these books are not given to anybody yet. It's just like a masterpiece that is showing for the audiences that there's great books being translated by Jason Michael himself for over, for more than 10 days, 10 years, sorry, for more than 10 years, we spent so much time and effort in translating these books. So this is my first contact to the book from the door of the hotel room and then take them to the classroom of Level 7.

Yeah, and this is my first contact of the book. And actually for the second contact, yeah, I would like to share about the second contact, right? About this, my second contact with the book is actually after the Xi'an event finishes and then the book goes back to where it's supposed to be.

Yeah, so it may be travel with Jason Michael or Jason Michael's team members. And then after like April to 2026, the Level 7 event finish, then the next event, the big event is in Singapore, in Singapore in July, it's like three months later. So my second contact with this four volumes of books is in Singapore.

So on July 2nd, yeah, so Sandy want me to put these books, maybe Jason Michael wants these four volumes of books to put on the venue of Grand Hyatt in Singapore. Because in July, you know, for 3rd and 4th and 5th, Jason Michael had a tour to travel to Singapore, as we all know, that he wants to show his gratitude for Ken Delay and Jenny Wang for doing so many things to support a lot of organizations in the past decades. So his tour to Singapore is like a grateful journey, a gratitude journey that he really wants to show to these two super hangmao ladies.

Yeah, so my second contact is on the 2nd of July. So I helped to bring these four volumes of books to my hotel room. And then because I need to prepare to put it in the Grand Hyatt on the 3rd of July for the Candies event for Jason Michael's teaching, teaching all those long-term sponsors, which were maintained by Ken Delay.

And I was the person who as the representative of DCIG to take care of the operation with this part. So my second contact is when, so on the 2nd of July, the books are in the room. And then on the next day, the 3rd of July, at about 11 o'clock something, I just need to unpack the books and bring the books from the Conrad Hotel to the Grand Hyatt Hotel.

So do you know what happened during its second trip to that venue? Do you know what happened to me? I think most of us have a chance.

[Говорящий 2] (10:42 - 11:13)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think maybe there are so many, I don't know, students or audience, especially students in Malaysia, they are like me, very curious about the books. Yeah, so let us know what happens with you and the books.

Sounds like you need to carry four heavy books to Grand Hyatt, right? And then what happened? So now you give us a pause.

[Говорящий 1] (11:15 - 17:53)
Yeah, so I think it's a very fun thing. I think it's like some good seeds ripen or maybe some negative seeds ripen. I don't know.

But you know, as long as I put these four volumes of books in two bags, and then when I leave them and then leave my hotel room from Conrad and I'm heading for the elevator and I wish to go from the seventh floor of the Conrad Hotel to the first floor and go to take a taxi to go to the Grand Hyatt, there's something special happened when I was carrying the books from my hotel room to the elevator. Actually, when I was very near the elevator already about 50 meters and suddenly my waist, I think it's my hips, cannot move forward anymore.

I don't know why, maybe because I just got baby a year ago. So when I lift heavy things, it's like just like feel something is like and at that moment my hips cannot move at all. But you know, for now I have no, I don't have any problem for now.

I just, I feel there's something happened. Some seeds kind of ripening and at that moment I cannot move. And then I don't, I have to put the books a little bit on the floor and to gain a little bit strength for myself to like move a little bit forward to the elevator so that I can go to another hotel.

And at that moment, suddenly I was like kind of crying because I, but the crying is not because I'm carrying the books, which I feel heavy. It is not, it is not that heavy physically. It is, I feel that, wow, these four books, if we can weigh each of the character or the letters on each word that Geshe Michael was translating or typing, actually those words, it's difficult, it's kind of difficult to weigh them, right?

So, but when they are putting together in four volumes of books with Geshe Michael's decades of translation, his efforts, his sweat, his energy, his whole heart putting into it to make this translation possible, I think that kind of value, that kind of the way is like immeasurable, is her great compassion to the world, which is at that moment I feel so overwhelming. And I think it's because of this overwhelming great compassion by a great translator, great writer, great teacher of the whole teaching passing down from Je Tsongkhapa. I think it's because of this great love that overwhelm me, overwhelming me at that moment, which I cannot move forward.

My hips just suddenly stopped working and then I cannot move forward. And then I was crying at that moment in front of the elevator. And I was trying, physically, of course, I feel like I cannot move because at that moment, maybe because it's because something happened, but I was trying my best to move from where I'm standing to the elevator.

And then when I entered the elevator, actually, I was thinking, how can I carry the books and then carry them and then later walk down from the elevator, walk out from the elevator and go and passing through the whole lobby and to the outside to get a taxi? I was already thinking, how can I make the way to the lobby and to another hotel? Because at that time, it's quite an early time.

Most of the students and people are not coming to the hotel yet, mainly some staff who are very busy with the Level 8 events of Singapore. I feel like there might be nobody happen to appear in front of me and help me carry the books at that moment. And then because I need to stay one day earlier in the hotel to prepare everything for the third event, so I didn't expect anyone to appear in front of the elevator.

But suddenly, I think it's on the fourth or fifth floor and suddenly the elevator just opened and then Gibson, someone who was also translating the book of Jason Carver, appeared in front of the elevator, which really surprised me. And I feel like, wow, something in our hearts which can be resonating to someone that will come to you to help you. But of course, I trust that.

I trust that someone may not trust that there is anyone who will just appear and come to help me, just like a coincidence. But as a practitioner, we know that there is no coincidence in the world at all. So at that moment, Gibson comes into elevator, I say, Gibson, I need help.

And then Gibson just helped me bring the four volumes of books and walking through the whole lobby of Conrad Hotel and then go to the taxi station at the front door of the hotel. And he was helping me to put the books on the taxi and me onto the... I made my own way.

I finally managed to sit myself on the taxi and I went to the Conrad Hotel where Geshe Michael is going to teach in the afternoon for the 10D Live's long-term sponsor in the afternoon. So this is my second contact to these four volumes of the Conrad Cell. Yeah, it's very fun.

[Говорящий 2] (17:53 - 18:34)
Yeah. Wow. Such a beautiful journey.

Yeah. And I think that most of the audience, once they heard these stories, they will feel very touched as well. Yeah.

And I really like the word you mentioned. You said immeasurable. You remind me of four immeasurable.

Yeah. Yeah. And then what happened after Singapore?

I think it is with... They are still with Geshe Michael, right? So it ended up to teacher Peter and Maria.

[Говорящий 1] (18:36 - 28:23)
Yeah, you're right. It's the four measurable thoughts. Of course, I think when Geshe Michael was translating the books, these four measurable thoughts must be in his heart.

For a long time, even when in his daily life, the four immeasurable is always... The four infinite thoughts must be always been in his heart so that he can make this masterpiece and now gradually spreading the wisdom to the world. And you and me and everybody who might see this video in the from all Geshe Michael's teachings.

Without him, actually, I don't know where I will be at this moment. So you're right. So yeah, after the Singapore event, I think the book goes back to someone who is taking care of the books.

For example, Lindsay or someone who is taking care of the books. Yeah. But Geshe Michael's team must be taking care of it.

But my second contact with the book is very precious. But as I know that at least the book doesn't go to anybody yet in the second tour after Geshe Michael finished the translation. So just like I mentioned, the first tour is to Xian.

After he finishes his translation, I need a big event. And the second big event is appearing in Singapore and this event and Jenny's event. And after the Singapore event for the level eight and the long term sponsors that Geshe Michael is grateful for and giving the teaching to the books goes to Malaysia.

So actually, I happen to be in the same car with Jenny Wang and Nick. We're in the same car. And then when I was waiting for Jenny to from the Conrad Hotel to to the Malacca Hotel, you know, we were in the same car and I happened to carry the books for her because after the event finished.

So she was responsible for taking the books to passing it to another event. So at that moment, Jenny was taking the four books and I helped her to take another two. Again, we are just sharing and helping each other to take the books to another venue.

So this is my third contact to the book. And then the book is also with the teacher because the teacher team has the car to to take us to to the whole the whole teacher team was taken by the whole different car arranged by Jenny. And then we all went to Malaysia from Singapore.

Yeah. So that was my third contact with with the books. And then at the end, this book is again sitting on the table of Malacca Event Hotel, you know, the event venue, I mean, on the table.

And it was there for like a week or so. Yeah. And then I we all of us already know that Geshe Michael shared a story about the why he made the decision to deliver this four precious volumes of the Gombracel to Peter Maria, Max and Yiran and also Julia.

So we can repeat the story again to plant some seed in the future. Right. So Geshe Michael, he mentioned in the class that at about two thirty or something, he just woke up and then he said, there's like a lady, secret lady angel come to remind her that this book has a new plan.

There's a new plan for the four volumes of books. So the original plan that Geshe Michael sharing is we want to give this book to like sponsors or to auction then no matter who can offer to take the books. And then he is going to support the translation team after the auction.

But at that midnight, he decided that he wants to change the plan and then he wants to deliver these four volumes of books to our super great teachers in Russia, in Ukraine. So it is the five teachers that we just mentioned. And then I think Geshe Michael, during giving out the books one by one in the event, he mentioned that he really wish that these two countries can stop the war.

And then if they will stop the war very soon with the books carrying into their land. And also the world peace will come very soon once these books is being released and spread into very important people. And I think it goes back to my story at the very beginning about my own introduction about my own like a wish since my childhood.

As one of the kids in eight siblings and plus my parents, 10 people in the family, you know, a lot of tears and a lot of laughter, a lot of fun. And I really enjoy this kind of harmony in my family. And every time I go to meet people or go to work in any organization, even before I met Geshe Michael or learn the wisdom, I was always the one who trying my best to bring people together.

For example, my siblings, my colleagues previously, and then my community that I'm living now, I'm living in Shenzhen, I bring peace to the community. And I also try to bring peace in my family, which is my current family, which I had to stay with my husband, my kids, and my other relatives, you know, and also my mother and father-in-law. So I think I always be the one who will bring joy and harmony to people around me.

So I think deep inside my heart, I also want to see the world peace, as I just mentioned earlier. And I really want to spread this Diamond Cutter wisdom or the wisdom of seed and emptiness to the world, to the United Nations, to the whole world. May one day everyone can learn the wisdom.

And then we all together with all the efforts of every one of us, we can bring the world peace. I think this is something if everything is just like the pain which is coming from our seed. Yeah, just like you mentioned, then world peace is possible, right?

So by planting these seeds of the three contexts with the Gombra cell, I think I wish I can plant the seed and I wish to dedicate these seeds to the world peace one day, so that my dream will become true, to see the whole world very peaceful. And then if I can see everyone, like if my seed is ripening, then it means I can become a very super good example and to continue my effort to spread the wisdom to a lot of other people in a lot of different places in the future. Yeah, so this is the story and I'm so happy that I got a chance to share with you some funny, interesting, but very profound stories.

It seems like it's like something which seems normal, but as we all know, we all learned something in Malacca this July in Malaysia, right? I think there's nothing which is really ordinary. There is nothing which is really ordinary.

Everything is a magic or a secret message that is passing down to us by someone who can see the whole picture. Yeah, like a super higher being who can see the whole picture and they were just pretending to be something which helped us to plant some seed to see the world peace. So I'm happy that Peter, Maria and the whole team can get the books.

And then the journey of world peace just started. So I'm so looking forward to the future and I'm so looking forward to the sharing of teacher Peter and Maria and the whole team of how did get their insight from reading the books.

[Говорящий 2] (28:23 - 29:19)
Thank you. Wow. Thank you for your sharing.

And well, it is really your seeds to bring you here and bring you have the chance to have three contacts with the books. Yeah. So once again, thank you very much.

And I'm not so sure how this recording will be used. But I think like you said, there are so many secret messages inside the video, inside the books. And I'm so looking forward to to learn from the books as well.

I hope that we can have the Chinese version and then we can ask from from teacher Peter and Maria and ask some blessing and ask some teachings from them. Thank you. Okay, I'm going to start or stop the recording.