Дебаты дьявола с ангелом, часть 9: Сделать невозможное возможным (2014, Феникс), занятие 2

[Speaker 1]
It is true that dependence comes from something in my mind. And if it's true that I can put that thing in my mind by perhaps the concept of giving a hand to someone else, giving them what I want. And if it's true that what I would like to have is coming from my own mind and it's not coming from having enough money or enough time or the right teacher or, you know.

Then I can have the thing that I thought was impossible. And we said this morning that the things that are already happening in your life are as possible as the thing you thought was impossible. Either they're both impossible or they're both possible, but there's no difference.

Whatever's making stuff happen in this moment in your life could also make whatever you want happen in your life. It's the same forces at work. You just have to figure out what those are.

So, if it's a miracle that I could dance, you know, for so many months, six months, then it's an equal miracle that I'm sitting here. It's just that. They're equally difficult.

They both have the same causes. And we have this, I don't know, we talked about having a state of mind in your head that keeps you from thinking straight. And we gave the example of a science fiction book by Orsonson that had a thing called the overflow.

And it's a computer program. And its goal is to keep people from thinking about weapons that they could kill each other with. And every time someone gets close to inventing a tank or something, they start thinking about how hungry they are, how much they'd like a hamburger.

You know, and then they don't make the tank. And they figured out in their civilization that this is how to keep people from hurting each other. So every time the computer makes them think of something, and you have the same thing going on in your head.

I can sit here for 20 days in a row. I can do the same four steps you do. And you will get up and have the same life that you had yesterday, tomorrow.

And you'll think that you can't do certain things because you don't have the money or the time or the circumstances. And that's not where you're coming from. Okay?

I don't know. I don't know. But then when your mind starts to grapple with that, you keep on getting distracted and you're wondering when the refreshments are coming.

It's not like that, okay? What is it says? I think it's supposed to say to eliminate sin in Buddhism.

That there's something in your mind that won't let you focus on where things really come from for longer than a few minutes. And then your mind will revert to its normal state. And you'll start thinking, how would I have the money to hire a ballet teacher?

How could I get the time? How could I fit these feet in those shoes? You know, like that.

Your mind just automatically goes to that. Why? According to Buddhism, you've been thinking that way for many, many lifetimes.

Like billions of them. So it's very difficult to break out of it. It's like a human talking to dogs.

A big group of dogs and saying, you could use this to write something. And they're all drooling. And how do you make that breakthrough?

How do you talk somebody into trying to get something that they believe is impossible? And that they perceive as impossible. How do you...

I don't know. Maybe I should just go through and slap everybody or something. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know how to get a person to think that way. Buddhism says that since the second method is correct, if you keep talking about it, sooner or later people will try it.

And then it will work. And then they'll get used to trying that new method. Which is what?

Plant the thing you want. Just plant the thing you want. Nothing is impossible.

And we had an interesting time this morning because we were discussing the idea... What was the idea? About impossibles.

At the end. Just before the yoga class. What?

That there could be a physical basis for believing that certain things are impossible. How much can you believe in yoga? That there could be a physical basis.

There could be... rise upon... Prana.

Qi. Bloom. A force inside your body.

Buddhism says that your thoughts ride upon those channels. Okay? On those winds.

Inner energy. And those winds... Manipulating or adjusting those inner winds is the purpose of yoga exercises.

Possibly. So, in theory, the idea that something is impossible will have a physical parallel somewhere in your body. Probably, it's some kind of stiffness in a certain place that you have to relax.

Or headaches that you get. Or back pain. Something like that.

So, somewhere in your body is the physical part of the belief that certain things can be possible without you having to have that kind of position. Or, it's not true that I could become a real atheist but instead of a god, you already know I was a real atheist. You know, like, you have a list of stuff in your mind that you think can't ever happen.

And there should be a physical parallel to that in your body because the mind and the body are connected intimately inside the channels. So, one thing you can do to think clearer is to do frequent exercises that loosen up time. Okay?

And that means try to do yoga everyday and it will loosen up your thoughts and make the same possible with those in mind. Okay? That's one.

Then study is very important. So, we're going to continue with the text in that manner since it's almost time for the break. We'll continue with the text but the text is all about what I've been talking about.

The text is all about impossibles and non-impossible. Okay? And if you attend these two days and you don't try to make something impossible happen, you're kind of...

I don't know. It's crazy. Like, why did you come here?

To listen to the music?

[Speaker 2]
Really?

[Speaker 1]
So, you know, try something you see. Take a small thing. Do an experiment.

Instead of manipulating outside conditions, try to plant it with somebody else. You need somebody else. I've read science fiction my whole life.

So, in the 8th grade, I read a book by Robert Heinlein called... Not Stranger than Strange Matter. It's worse than that.

No, I mean, that's one of the greatest books I've ever written, but it's called... There are these little creatures that attach themselves to the back of your neck and they really kind of like... I don't know.

Puppet master. It's called the puppet master, I think. And they're like aliens and they hang on the back of your spine and then they take over your meat.

And then, you know, you've got to watch your girlfriend because she might have one. They spread, you know. And like that.

Anyway, it's like, honestly, you can take over your... study certain new ways of taking over your life and see, okay? Try.

So, try it, okay? Otherwise, I don't know why it's a company thing. I mean, it's nice to see everybody.

We have three retreats tomorrow. And it's nice to see everybody, but why not try something, okay? Try it.

Because why spend your whole life not having the thing you want it to be? So just try it. But it takes somebody else.

You have to have a partner, okay? You cannot do it by yourself. All right.

So, we've been in a text. It was written in the 16th century. And we've been studying this text for I don't know how many years.

Three, four years? And I don't know how far we got through it. I don't worry about those things.

And I think we're at verse... That I know. We're at verse 1.

And I'm going to read it to them, and then I'm going to explain it to them. Okay, so here we go. Okay.

Okay. Okay. What's the word?

Me. Me or I, okay? Who's using NOAA a lot here?

The devil in your mind, okay? Who is the devil in your mind? It's the part of your mind that thinks to do ballet, you'd have to quit your other work, move to Phoenix, have a regular teacher, get some independent source of income, have a body that's 40 years younger, etc.

Okay? That's the devil, all right? The devil makes you...

The devil says that to your mind, okay? The devil's in your mind and says that. So me in this text is the devil, all right?

So here we go. So we were talking about people who their life got very good at the pen. Every time Geshe-la starts talking about the pen, they actually start to fall asleep.

I've confirmed it this afternoon, okay? Somebody in the audience just went almost dead asleep. The moment I pulled it out, they were like, their eyes go...

You know? And they're like, why are you talking about that thing, you see? Why are you talking about that pen?

Why are you talking about the pen? In this context right here, last night, at the end of the night, what did he say about talking about pens? He's criticizing.

[Speaker 2]
Why?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, you forget that we're really talking about you, okay? We're not talking about pens. Who cares about pens?

You want a pen, go down the street. Buy one in the store. I mean, it's not a big spiritual realization level.

What we're saying is that your being, your life, your occupation, your relationships, what you can and cannot do, are all the same as the pen, okay? And if you discuss pens, if you fall asleep during the pen talk, it means you didn't get it, okay? It's about us.

It's not about a pen. Every time we talk about the pen, we're trying to apply it to us, you see? de ni tong nyi gyang che tsul People think that emptiness is something far away.

gyang means far away, okay? They think, oh, emptiness is out there, in the pen, you know? I used to stare at the door in the class.

Rinpoche would go on for 25 years talking about emptiness. And I used to stare at the door in the class. The door was to the side of him, you know?

I would be staring at the door and saying, what am I doing wrong? Just tell me, Rinpoche, you know? How am I proceeding the door wrong?

Just tell me, you know? It was frustrating for me. I got really frustrated, you know?

I'm like, there's a door. You have to go see the door to get into this classroom. It's a white door.

I helped build it. I understand the door. But I'm doing something wrong with the door.

According to the text, I'm doing something drastically wrong with the door that keeps me from being a ballerina. Okay? Just tell me, Rinpoche, you know?

Just tell me, you know? Tell me what I'm doing wrong and I'll stop. I promise.

If you tell me, I promise I'll stop. And I waited for so long. I'm like, just tell me what I'm doing wrong, okay?

And what he says here is, you begin to understand that things are kind of confusing, you know? That you apply it to other stuff and other people, especially people you want to correct. Don't you understand that?

Okay? Okay. Okay.

The fact that that person themselves is empty. That's the pen. What is empty here?

At which point in the discussion of the pen do we hit emptiness? Was it this part? Or was it this part?

Or was it this part? Yeah, it's the part where I left it on the table and said the people went out and the dogs went out. And then, is it a pen?

Or is it the two toes you said? Neither. You're supposed to go like that, okay?

You practice. Okay, I don't know. I asked this ballerina, I said, how do you get your neck so long?

And she said, there's a secret. I'm like, tell me, you know? And they say, don't try to make your neck longer.

Just put your shoulders lower.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, so I told you a secret.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, it's nothing. At that point it's nothing, okay? Okay, pura rakshita mani.

Some way to do it, ma ko wa. Ma ko wa. Say ko wa.

Ko wa. So ko wa has two means, okay? Ko wa can mean to hear, and ko wa can mean to understand.

So he says, they don't get it that they themselves are empty, okay? They understand it without the pen. When no one's in the room, neither a pen nor a cheetah, but they don't get it about themselves.

They think that what they decided was impossible in their life has to be impossible.

[Speaker 2]
Okay?

[Speaker 1]
It cannot be possible. They decided. It's only one way.

Okay? Okay, all right. Emptiness is there in front of them all.

I almost cursed, but... Anyway, I'm not supposed to do that. Emptiness is right in front of their eyes all day long.

Shuk. Don't believe. Don't do shuk.

It's right in front of them, okay? How does the dake start? What's the first word in the Tibetan dake and what does it mean?

du gyi na nga nga ma korwa dom pa yang yon ma ka yon ma ma yon ma cha yon ma ma yon ma Okay? Dun. Dun is right in front of you.

Dun yon nam ka. In the space, in front of you, in mid-air, okay? So dun, emptiness is sitting around you all the time.

Shuk yang. dom pa song song ma korwa They don't get it. They don't understand how it's happening.

na'i nyanmo shirate Okay, so it's true. If you get wisdom in your mind, it would be the nyanmo for me. Who's me?

I don't like it in there, so don't say it in there. Let's not say, like, misunderstanding your world. Very actively, efficiently, constantly, unawarably, totally misunderstanding everything that's going on here.

So that all your actions are mistaken. All the actions you undertake to do things that you want are irrelevant to getting what you want. The only way to get what you want is to provide it to somebody else first.

Okay? Alright? Then everything else you do to be happy, everywhere you drive, every action you undertake, everything you say to anybody, everything you spend, everything you earn, it's all irrelevant.

It has nothing to do with being happy. Okay? Just plant a seed and things are fine.

Ngani nyanpo. So the antidote for me. Who's me?

Misunderstanding your life. Just shit up. They call it wisdom, but I don't know if you'd call it wisdom.

Is it wisdom when you look at the pan and say, oh, it's totally me? I mean, wisdom sounds like something that Solomon has and we don't have. You know?

I don't know if wisdom is such a good translation. As I get older, I start to question these things. It just means understanding where stuff comes from.

Shit them. So that's the antidote to not understanding where things come from. If you don't understand where things come from, you will work the whole day.

You will schedule your day. You will go here and there. You will do different things, for example, to make money, or to get relationships, or to be healthy.

You will undertake all kinds of things that have nothing to do with it. I was in Russia, okay? I had an inspiration one day.

I was teaching somebody, I think it was in St. Petersburg, and I was up there on the stage, and I was talking, and Russians are easy to irritate. I mean, they're irritated before you walk in, so it's not a big deal. So, you know, so I'm like, then finally one of them goes, so the Puchi movie is good, it's a new piano.

You know, that's really bugging me, what you're doing with the microphone. I'm like, what? And he says, why are you doing that?

I'm like, oh, you mean this banging on the microphone thing? And he's like, yes, why are you doing that? And I said, well, I have to.

And he says, well, why? And I said, well, I have to make the sun come up tomorrow. And he says, I don't understand.

I said, I do this every day on the microphone when I'm giving talks, and the next morning, the sun always comes up. So can you imagine what would happen if I stopped? Crops would die.

Nobody could get a sun tan. The world would freeze to death. I have to do this every day.

And then he's like, that doesn't cause the sun to come up. And I'm like, no, no. Every time I do it, the sun comes up.

Oh, yeah, but that's just, you know, there's no connection between what you're doing and the sun coming up. And then I'm like, everything you're doing every day, every single action, every single conversation, every single thing you schedule, all the things you do to attempt to get stuff and be happy and have relationships, they're all like banging on a microphone. You have nothing to do with getting ready.

Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.

It's very frustrating. Just do something for other people that's similar to what you were. And the things you were will come.

And then you don't have to run around all day. You don't have to be over-busy all day and lose sleep and, you know, be a rocker. You don't have to do all those things.

Just do something for other people that you want. And then relax. Don't really start pushing yourself.

Okay? Like that. It's...

Anyway, shut up me, do the ten-minute card. See, they got around to a car song made, okay? People don't understand where stuff comes from.

So their attempt at understanding where stuff comes from, it melts away. They can't. They lose it.

Like, in the middle of the class, when they're not sleepy, they did it for ten minutes. And then after the class, they automatically forget it. There's some kind of human automated forgetter.

Nyan mo may na, nyan mo may na, chi chi chi, chi chi mo. You know? If the...

What do you call it? If the counteragent for misunderstanding in life never enters your brain, okay? Got it?

If you're never going to talk about stuff, never ever can. I think the last line here is very important. I think so.

And I get to talk, so I don't... na ni, na ni gyepa le, wo chi. Say, na ni, na ni, gyepa le, gyepa le, wo chi.

Wo means... wo is a difficult word, okay? Wo is the real meaning of our heart.

Gyepa is the real meaning of our heart. Our heart can be split as our heart or our heart. Our heart, which means to hunt, which means to...

The verb is hunt. The word hunt comes from there. It means to smite.

Our heart means an enemy. Our our heart means to smite an enemy. The Tibetans misunderstood the word.

Okay? It's really arhant, which means to possess. U means to be worthy.

Okay? And the classical explanation is that an arhant is someone who is worthy to be found by God. And the Tibetan scriptures will have...

The old scriptures will say, arhants... Enemy destroyers are called enemy destroyers because they're worthy of prostration. Because they just translated it.

They didn't get it. So, anyway. Arh means to be worthy.

opa means worthy. Chi... Wo chi means...

Why would it be appropriate? Okay? Why would it be worthy or appropriate?

What other thing than... The lay is non-karma. Okay?

Or from. It's a new comparative. Than.

T-H-A-N. Nani döpa. Döpa means to stay in a place.

Okay? For me to stay here. Why would anything else be appropriate?

Okay? Who's me? Yeah.

Misunderstanding your life actively. Actively misunderstanding every aspect of your life. It'll stay in your mind.

Why would anything else happen if you don't go to a pen class? Why would you think anything else would happen? What would inspire you to do something differently?

You see what I mean? If no one taught you that the pen was kind to you, then of course the ignorance should stay in your mind. Anything else would be strange.

Because there's no force to to compete with. He could just live there. And he does.

That's the devil in this stuff. What is the devil? It's thinking that you have to say things, and do things, and strive, and work hard, and drive here and there, and say this and that, and meet so-and-so, and text so-and-so.

You know, all of those things that have nothing to do with what you want to do. Don't be a ballet dancer. Don't take vitamins.

Don't go to class. Don't find a teacher. Don't cancel all the rest of your lives.

You have time to be a ballet dancer. Okay? Just tell someone else who wants to be helpful.

And then one day you'll be up there and you'll be dancing and you don't remember why. Okay? Because that's how you got here, to sit here, to hear the talk about how to get what you want.

It's the same. That's how you got... There's no difference.

Okay? And if you don't start to be like that, then misunderstanding is going to stay with you forever. Because it would be weird for him to do anything else.

Because it's nothing to make him leave. I think the last line is very early. He's like, what do you expect, you know?

If you don't want me here, think. But if you don't think, then stop complaining. Because I'll be here.

Because why would I want to leave? Who would make me leave? If you don't start thinking about where your life comes from.

Okay? Let's go to the next verse. This is verse number 125.

How do you know when you're getting old and you read like this? So some people get the reasoning for... I think it's really good.

They understand it. Is this... Is this one pen?

When I start writing, is it one pen or a couple of pens? Which one is it? Who said one?

When the dogs have laughed, or when the people have laughed, and I draw this thing on the table, and no one's here, to see it as a pen or as a teapot, how do you tell it's one? One, or multiple? Yeah, that's called Chittadaka Tensei.

Okay, that's a famous Buddhist proof of emptiness. Now you've got it. You understand it.

Okay? Is it one pen or two? Just say, neither.

It's not a pen, because the human hasn't come back yet. Got it? Is the thing that's impossible in your mind impossible?

One impossible thing, or two impossible things? Because we're not talking about pens. We're talking about your life.

Is the thing in your life that you could never get one impossible thing, or two impossible things? The answer is, neither. Okay, yeah.

Danced by it a little bit. It's just neither. It's not one, it's not two.

That's called Chittadaka Tensei. It's one of the principles. Got it?

Just nod. Nodding is the direct path to refreshments. CES PA'I SHES MI BAG PA'I TSE CES PA'I NGANG DU SONG BA'I SER GOM KAR MI'I BSTE MED DO SER Okay, this is a very famous misunderstanding, and then I'll give you refreshments, okay?

And we'll go a little bit late. Surprise. The important word here is MI'I BSTE, which is a very, very difficult expression.

MI'I BSTE, as we said in the earlier class today, means to see something, or focus on something. It's a verb. It's like when you eye a girl.

The noun is what? And I have two eyes, but I'm eyeing a cute boy in the class. Okay, so it's the same in Tibetan.

The word for eye, this eye, E-Y-E, is MI'I. MI'I GLO TONG And you make a verb out of it by making it stronger. So MI'I.

MI'I BSTE is a very difficult expression. It means way of seeing something. MI'I BSTE.

How you direct your mind, for example, is called MI'I BSTE. There's a famous line in Jetson Papa where he says, MI'I BSTE MED There is no MI'I BSTE. There's no way to see things.

Something like that. Here he says, GOM GAR MIG DE MED DO GZER GZER we had today, we said high-tone GZER was GO. We said low-tone GZER was to claim falsely, to claim wrongly that something is true.

This person who's talking here now has said, once you understand the finger of the pen on the table and you focus on it, your mind goes into nothingness. You don't think about anything. And that's some kind of spiritual goal.

The karma of spacing out at that level is that you become an absent-minded professor. So people who leave their keys everywhere, they're always calling you and asking you if you have their cell phone or their wallet. It could be, it's not always the case, but it could be that they've been trying to do this meditation where they try to think about nothing.

They try not to think about anything. The karmic result of that is you just get like this. You see people like, yeah, what are you doing?

What are you doing? I lost something. What is it?

I don't remember. Like that. It's a fuzzy-mindedness that comes from trying to think about nothing.

Okay? Mitte. Merpa.

So, what's famous in yoga scripture has those amazing lines that yoga teachers all over the world constantly interpret as not thinking about anything. Yeah, the definition of yoga in the second line of the Yoga Sutra, okay? The most famous program sutra ever written.

The second line, the author defines yoga as stopping the way the mind goes. And then yoga teachers all over the world, it's kind of like, it's either tragic or funny, but I'm not sure yet. They're like, stop thinking.

Don't think so much. Or try not to think about anything. That's yoga.

Yoga is trying not to think about anything. Stop all activity of the mind. It's a little better to say stop your busy mind.

Some people say that. In fact, you can't do that either. What's the correct meaning of that?

Stop the way the mind... Yeah, the way the mind twists things. The word vrti, which they mispronounce as vrti, is the root of the word weird.

It means twisted. And wire comes from it also. It literally means twisted.

So your mind twists things. Like you think things are impossible that are totally possible if you would just do those four steps to get them. Right?

What were the four steps? Decide what you want. Number two.

Find someone who wants the same thing. Number three. Help them do it.

Number four, we didn't do it tonight. We didn't do it yet. Okay.

We're going to do it after rebirths. Okay. Oh, well, yes, we do.

YI LA CI YANG NI SANG PA The next line says, YI LA CI YANG NI SANG PA CI YANG ME It's a very famous mistake in meditation. It's like totally famous. It has its own name, which is CI YANG ME.

CI YANG ME means nothing at all. Nothing at all. And that's a famous, that's a thousand-year-old mistake in meditation.

It means try to think about nothing. CI YANG ME Try to think about nothing. Rinpoche used to say, if you want to do CI YANG ME, just have four or five beers.

And don't go off to this effort of, you know, finding a retreat cabin, building one, sitting there for three years while Ellie and I try to feed you cocaine nibs from Venezuela. And I don't want the ones from Venezuela. I don't want the ones from Venezuela.

I'm just joking. So anyway, if you want to meditate on that, just get very drunk or something. You know, drink a lot until you pass out.

Then you can almost think about nothing. You actually can't think about nothing, but you can try. Okay.

CI YANG MI SEM PAR NYAM PAR BZHAG PA'I GNAS SU BSDUR They think that's what you should meditate on. And that's meditation, according to them. It's a mistake that you did.

One more line, okay? You all right? Rinpoche, I'm sorry, but tomorrow you're going to lay on your tummy all day.

NYI LA CHEN GYI LAS PA DE SNGA DAM ZIN TANG RGYAL BA TSAR I'm on verse 126. NYI LA CHEN GYI LAS PA DE Trying to think about nothing. To think that SNGA DAM ZIN TANG RGYAL BA To think it in any way contradicts the way that I see stuff.

Who's I? Ignorance, the devil. To think that thinking about nothing could in any way cause me trouble in your mind.

My continued presence in your mind could threaten me in any way. I'll say it again. To think that meditating about nothing at all could in any way impact on my continued presence in your mind is TSAR.

This TSAR is spelled with an M in front of it. Without the M, it means to finish something. Like TSAR CHOD PA means to kill somebody, to put them to an end.

But with a Mao, with an M in front of it, it means LO TSA, which means strange. There used to be... The way I learned this word was I used to read the Tibetan newspaper at breakfast all the time in the monastery.

Why? Because my teacher refused to talk Tibetan to me. And he talked Tibetan to the guy I was jealous of.

But he made me speak English all day, and I was really irritated, so I didn't talk at breakfast. I read the Tibetan newspaper and ignored both of them. Okay?

You think I'm kidding. Anyway, there was always a little box in the Tibetan newspaper that said LO TSAR LUNG CHUNG, which means weird but really happened. It was like Ripley's Believe It or Not.

There was a little box called Weird but Really Happened. And the weird is LO TSAR. So to think that my continued presence in your mind, poisoning your mind, making you think things are impossible in your life, to think that in any way I could be threatened by the idea of meditating on nothing is TSAR.

Weird. You're weird. Weirdo.

Okay? Got it? I can't describe how weird the word is here.

It's like, he's like saying, weird. You think that meditating on nothing, or trying to think about nothing, is in any way going to impact on the poison I'm pouring into your head? TSAR.

That's weird. What a weird idea. Okay?

Like, the devil has a set of mimicry. Okay? NA MED GOMAR MA THANG MA SAKPO RINPO CHEN THAG CHEN MA...

It's a difficult expression in English, in Tibetan. NA MED GOMAR MA THANG MA If something isn't a meditation which might lead to my absence from your mind, or kicking me out of your mind, SAKPO RINPO CHEN THAG CHEN you can call it some cool meditation. For example, DZOG CHEN or Maha Mudra, or what's the other one?

HOA or CHOS. You can have all these, like, really exotic names and exotic-sounding things, like, go into the void, or, you know, like, disappear into nothingness, or... What do you call that?

Great Completion, or... And he... The First Panchen Lama is directly criticizing those things.

He's like, Oh, come on. Like, a cool name is not enough. You know?

If it has no effect on my continued presence in your mind, it's just BS. It's useless. MING LTAG KYANG You can call it...

You can give it some exotic name, but it doesn't change the fact that it has no effect on me. It's weird to think it could. It's weird to think that thinking about nothing could possibly improve your mind.

NA NI MYUR PA'I CHOG NA'ANG MED It doesn't even approach anything that would hurt me. Not only is it nothing that would hurt me, it's not even close to anything that would hurt me. SHES RABS BSGOM PA'I KHYAD MO'I NAS Say, Khyad Mo'i Nas, and then I'll let you have refreshments.

If you get it right. Khyad Mo'i Nas Oops. Khyad Mo'i is an ancient word that means...

Laughter. NA means a place of laughter. Khyad Mo'i Nas means, that's a joke.

Who said that? Ignorance. The devil said, you think that meditating, trying to think about nothing at all is going to have any effect on me?

Khyad Mo'i Nas. This is a joke. It's just a joke.

You must be kidding. It means literally, you must be kidding. It's very harsh.

It's very, in Tibet, it's very, very harsh. Just to say, some guy gets up and starts talking about Dzogchen or something, and just say Khyad Mo'i Nas. Are you joking?

Are you kidding me? You want me to think about nothing? It's not possible to think about nothing.

Okay? So don't frustrate yourself. Not only is it useless, you can't do it anyway.

Okay? Got it? All right.

Sorry. So it's about 8.55. If you have to go home, that's okay. Or another option is to have refreshments and stay and we'll do questions and answers.

And Tim might have something to say before that. I'm supposed to stall for a few moments. Aside from the extra baked goods you might be receiving tonight, there is a bake sale.

A bake sale? Yeah, so just to review, we have a bake sale every time we have a program in the United States. And the money we make from the bake sale goes to sending money to the Tibetan monastery to study.

And this year, the team will be mostly four kids from a Mexican group. Four young kids from a Mexican group. They want to go and study in the Tibetan monastery.

And they're getting various students. They include some Uyghur people. So Uyghurs are like Apache and Navajo.

They're the local people, the native people in the area of the Sierra Madres in Guadalajara. So I think it's very cool that we are sending wheelchair Buddhist people to go study in the monastery. So the way that you can help that to happen is twofold.

Eat as much as you can at the break. And overpay as much as you can. So if you pay less than $20 for a cookie, you're a loser.

I mean, that's just my opinion. Okay? So, you know, if I said we're all going to the movies after the talk, it's going to cost $25.

People may have gone without a hesitation. But if I said pay $20 for a cookie, they're all like, just do it. That's more important that the wheelchair kids go to a Tibetan monastery than that we go to a movie.

But that doesn't mean we can't go to a movie. We have a special award for you. You have a great look on your face.

You're not a nurse, I'm sorry.

[Speaker 2]
Can I invite Nicole?

[Speaker 1]
Orit? Rebecca? David?

I don't know how to pronounce it.

[Speaker 2]
There's a P and an F.

[Speaker 1]
Can you all just talk? Wait, wait. Come on.

What do these people have in common?

[Speaker 2]
I don't know. What's that?

[Speaker 1]
The new moon. And Donner, too.

[Speaker 2]
Adam.

[Speaker 1]
I'm sorry. My boy. Who's Katie?

This is Adam. Lucy.

[Speaker 2]
Gracie. Gracie's their dog.

[Speaker 1]
Yes, we're ready. It's everyone's birthday, so let's sing. Two, three.

Gracie won. And I can't be so careful about my nose, too. How long?

Fifteen minutes.

[Speaker 2]
Fifteen minutes. You really paid the money for that? Well, that was yesterday.

Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
I'm sorry. Happy birthday. Thank you.

You made it. Oh, hi. Oh, yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, my gosh. Oh, shoot. I'm looking nowhere.

So anyway, we lost the black tower because I'm out of house. The other building's not as taxing but it's a very good building. it's less than $3,000.

That's awesome. To me, it means I'm not as good as the other building, right? Good.

We want that. It's not good for you. Are you still at the local taxi?

Yeah, I'm still there. I went boogie-free the other day. I was with Marla.

We just walked out. I said, she's going to install it.

[Speaker 2]
It's close to her name.

[Speaker 1]
So it's Renee Taylor, right next door.

[Speaker 2]
Are you 99? No, I got my schedule changed. I got my schedule changed.

[Speaker 1]
So you were making some confusion.

[Speaker 2]
I have been. I'm working.

[Speaker 1]
Where's your business? Is Summer at Benson's?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, now it's busy.

[Speaker 1]
It's the last night of school. It's not as bad. It's not as bad?

I don't know. People will go there still. They'll get good deals.

The traffic is getting really big already. Yeah, it's been... It took me an hour, though, today to get from the Hilton Subtown.

The traffic is so bad. I went there in about one hour. Which, by the way, Jim does tours.

So I just wasn't really out there.

[Speaker 2]
Do you know the tours?

[Speaker 1]
Well, if you bring VIPs to China, you try to take the most part of the tour. Yeah, you have to do all that. Like, the guy who sponsored the tour, he took him to the Barrage Festival.

I flew to Calgary. And I went to the Calgary shops in Uptown and dressed him up like a Calgary guy. And he went around all day in a Calgary suit.

It was really cool. And if you want to bring those people and teach them, they want special classes.

[Speaker 2]
Perfect.

[Speaker 1]
Do they want to be their wife and children? It's just a child and a family child. And then they move to China.

And teach them special classes. I'm excited to hear all you have to say. This is my first training for you, ever since Christmas.

And what she's elaborated about who you are and what you do. I've been checking out different websites and listening to your work. And you blow my mind.

I really like that I'm her husband. It's not expensive and it's not fancy. She is very peaceful and clean.

It's very simple. I have both my wives. She strives to keep it simple.

I'm so sorry. So you're happy? Yeah, I'm happy.

So when I have time, I want to resurrect the Sanskrit.

[Speaker 2]
That sounds great.

[Speaker 1]
We're having ASAP meetings tomorrow. You don't have to ask me. I just give you a job and you do it.

And we may have an office here if you want to. I don't know. I think an office has less and less meaning in my life.

We kind of lack a place and we need a place to be available. And you know, training people in the elderly can't do well if you can't train a teacher. I'll get it all set up and I'll call you if I can.

Do you do tours? I do tours in a van. I don't go off-road, but I do tours in the area.

I can shuttle people from Phoenix up there if you need it. Whatever you need, let me know. I'm interested in what you do.

I'm happy to help and support. We were asked to do an estimate. We did a $20,000 estimate for the next week.

Sunrise tours. Sunset tours. I like the sunset tours better than sunrise tours.

I know it looks better than sunrise.

[Speaker 2]
I agree.

[Speaker 1]
I'm not going to have everything in one room.

[Speaker 2]
Me neither. How about this one? Thank you so much.

[Speaker 1]
He's also very grateful for your presence.

[Speaker 2]
That's my dog.

[Speaker 1]
He said he just wanted to be close to you.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
Why? What is it? It's a stone.

It's a hard stone. I've never seen it.

[Speaker 2]
It's not. I haven't toured it yet. I like it.

But I haven't experienced it. Are you sure you want to give it away?

[Speaker 1]
No, I haven't.

[Speaker 2]
I've been saving some money from that.

[Speaker 1]
I can study Chinese with it.

[Speaker 2]
Is it a dog? It's a dog. It's super useful.

[Speaker 1]
When it comes to insects and insects. He's a great teacher.

[Speaker 2]
He's very helpful.

[Speaker 1]
He's wonderful. Is he already in the book? I think he's in the book.

I think so. I think I would have a better experience if I was in the book.

[Speaker 2]
I have a small group of people I'm collecting.

[Speaker 1]
For me, it's very serious. It takes a lot of time. I'm open to the idea, but I like the people who are very serious.

It takes a lot of time.

[Speaker 2]
Are you interested in anything?

[Speaker 1]
No, I'm not.

[Speaker 2]
I think we can start from the beginning. I've gone through a lot.

[Speaker 1]
What is that? Almonds, sesame, honey?

[Speaker 2]
It's really good. It's good.

[Speaker 1]
Step 4, we're going to learn. Hey, Johnny. Hey, Nick.

Johnny. I guess I'm wondering if Johnny ever slept with you or has it become like that at all? Yeah.

Because in theory, we all have enough seeds to have anything. We also have enough seeds to supplement the number of seeds we have. Also, some of us are wrong about the process.

[Speaker 2]
What's the most important thing that you would like to do in your life?

[Speaker 1]
Maybe you should like brains. The process of reviewing your life is very important. Yeah, well, I was going to...

The second is to... Yeah, and the second is to...

[Speaker 2]
is to get there, to have some sort of higher vision about what's happening. My right?

[Speaker 1]
My right. Yeah. Perfect.

Okay, and if not that, just smile. If you want to, I don't know, I'm just going to show up on like a spot. Oh, here, maybe you have one.

I don't think it's going to show up at all.

[Speaker 2]
Now close your eyes. Okay, here you go.

[Speaker 1]
You can do it.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, so where do we go? We need to get some cake.

[Speaker 1]
It's one of our best memories. Yeah. Oh, okay.

Something else? Can I take things away from you? Oh, no, that's for V.

Can you make sure V gets it? Tell her it's from Anatole. Is the fork okay?

It's yummy, healthy. The fork I don't need. That's it.

Oh, cool. Is that extra? Yes, sir.

[Speaker 2]
I'm curious.

[Speaker 1]
Let me know how it goes with Google. We have an ASAP meeting tomorrow. Tomorrow at 1.30. Where is that?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Do you want that in your bag? Do you know what that is? No.

Oh, you were talking about that. Yeah, it's a great book. Have you read it?

I read pieces of it. Can we get a few more verses before you take questions? We do.

I don't know. I hate to make you... Yeah, I'll do some work.

Thank you. You know Leran? Leran?

He's my brother. We were born on the same day. We were born on the same day.

He's like... Yeah, I'm gonna steal him from you. He's the Lord's main helper and disciple.

A lady from Israel. But I want to... I covet him.

I told the Lord that he shouldn't let him... No, he goes on tour with us a lot. And he's a beautiful man.

He's overworked now. He rest his leg. He had a three year vacation.

He just built a dining hall in Israel. He did it. He did it.

He directed it. I'm gonna leave now. Yeah.

Thank you. Sorry. Yes, I agree.

7.30. Then when you need to go, go. Thank you. Why don't you do nothing?

I'm gonna tell him we're gonna do more. Trust me. It's really good.

We're gonna... Somebody asked me to do some more verses because they wanted more candy. So I'll do a few more verses and then we'll do some quick questions.

We'll probably end around 10. If you have other things to do or you're tired or your kids are late or you want to go to McDonald's or something. Just look...

Just go ahead and don't feel shy. Then I'll ask Tim to cover some stuff before I start back on the verses. I just wanted to use thank yous because there are so many people that help out and I'm actually looking around and I probably could just say everyone stand up and applaud for each other.

So I didn't really write anything down because we don't know what you're doing exactly but you know we're gonna leave people out. I'd like to thank Nick who did a lot of... Rebecca did a lot of work with that new last minute.

Some last minute shit so I'd like to thank them for arranging all of that and making this possible. We have our tech team Scott and Marie who are dedicated to making this recording and making this possible for people who aren't here. It goes up online the same day.

So if you don't get anything... And Adam. And Adam.

We also have Adam as well who's been helping out and he's been doing a lot of projection and he's helping a lot with the tech so you all can learn as well. I want to say thank you to everybody but specifically I'd also like to thank Jaden for all of her hard work and dedication. She sleeps with her tires entirely asleep.

She keeps telling me how tired she is. And finally I'd just like to thank Ishla for teaching us. She also teaches and works tirelessly for us.

Tirefully. It just seems tiring to keep writing that. Thank you for teaching us today.

My pleasure. And just give a round of applause to everybody who's helped out because you all made this possible. I also want to mention that we have the next big event we have planned is in October.

We're going to be doing the next retreat. Got something in your face? A beard.

Just a couple. We're going to be having our next retreat in October. So that's going to be a great experience.

Because we didn't have anyone lined up to run this and he just swooped in from Philadelphia and organized everything. So thank you so much. Thank you.

So just a few more verses because Mr. Connor requested it. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, two more verses for good luck.

For the road. This gets difficult. That's why I stopped.

Uh... There is a line of reasoning which leads to the emptiness thing. Okay?

And it's the pen thing up to the time I throw it on the table. Okay? So the whole...

And what comes after also. So the whole idea that the pen, the reason you see a pen is that you have a seed in your mind which you put there by sharing pens in the past. Okay?

Alright?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
So you've planted that seed in your mind and there's... We talked about three steps to it. Okay?

And we didn't get to the four steps so we have to do that. But there's a line of reasoning that the reason you see a pen is because you have a seed in your mind. By the way, those of you who care, the DCI people know because we talk about it in DCI.

If you had a different seed in your mind or if another seed in your mind which has been there for a long time is suddenly the same as that, you would want to chew on it. You would be overcome by what do you call it? Uncontrollable desire to chew on it.

You would be salivating when I hold up the pen. Okay? That would be because an older seed in your mind to see it as something to chew on had asserted itself over the pen seed.

So the pen seed... Every time you look at the pen, the pen seed gets worn out. And sooner or later the pen seed dies.

And then it's immediately replaced by some other seed. So we have lots of seeds. We have countless seeds in our minds.

So at some point a seed might assert itself that causes you to see it as something to chew. And at that moment you have become a dog. So try to appreciate that moving into another life form happens in the space of less than a minute.

Okay? It's not that you have to die and go somewhere and they zip open the back of your body and they catch your soul and they put another soul... You know, it's not like there's a factory in Kansas that makes dog bottles and they have a zip on the back and they catch your soul and you have to throw it in.

Don't think of rebirth as your soul inhabiting a new body. That's not the way it happens. The seed shifts slightly in your mind and suddenly you see it as a chittor and that makes you a dog.

Try to understand that. You see what I mean? It's not that your body changes.

Your body doesn't change. Try to understand. You see the pen as a chittor.

Then you are a dog because you see the pen as a chittor. And then when you hold up your arm you see a paw. It's not like the hand drops off and gets replaced by a paw or something like that.

It's not like that. The seed shifts slightly. So you don't have to die.

You don't have to go to the hospital and get cancer later. You could change. You could be a dog by morning.

And it happens to everybody. If they don't have training and they don't do something, it happens to everybody. They do become a dog by morning.

It happens to everybody. Everyone who dies becomes something. Because there's just a slight shift in your seeds.

Also, making the impossible happen is the same thing. You can go the other way also. You can become an angel by tomorrow morning if you could shift the seeds.

See what I mean? If you could see it, an angel would see this as a means of affecting countless people on this planet to follow these ideas. They wouldn't see it as a pet.

They would see it as a shining golden sword of wisdom. Okay? Same all day.

So it's possible to go both ways. All right. So this series of the thought process by which I describe to you how you're seeing the pen.

I go through that whole dog spiel. And you should learn to do it. And you should learn it word by word.

It's something you should learn word by word. Because each part is important to helping people. And I haven't found another way.

There are other examples I give, but it's not the same. The pen seems to be uniquely effective. And you should learn how to teach it.

Okay? That thought process. Okay?

Question. Now comes a question. The first Panchen Lama is not dealing in obvious things.

He's dealing in subtleties. The whole book is subtleties. Is understanding how the pen comes from a seed opening in your mind and a small luminous image coming out of that seed and attaching itself to this object, is that emptiness?

No. Is to follow that process mentally the perception of emptiness? No.

It's the perception of the brother of emptiness, which is... They call it dependent origination, which is like a really irritatingly weird word, you know? But it's correct.

It means stuff happens based on sense. That's all. That's the dependent layer.

Questions later. That's the dependent part. Origination means stuff happens.

Stuff happens because you have seeds in your mind. That's all. That's dependent origination.

To understand that is not the same as understanding emptiness. Now, why is that a big deal? To perceive emptiness directly has a unique effect on your being.

You become a different creature. Within 20 minutes you evolve to a higher life form called inarya. You become a...

It's a different life form. It's not a human. It's not a normal human.

Arya means something different. Totally different. It's a different form of life.

It's a higher evolution of life. So if you can see emptiness, your being changes radically. And from that moment on you will be the next Buddha on the planet.

But, to understand the pending doesn't have the same effect. It's important because you can't get to the emptiness without seeing the pending. You can't get to the first one without the second one.

So you have to go through that. Now, why are we talking about that? In this verse, I'll just go between the toots.

In this verse, he's describing what happens. Some people get hung up on the pending and they never meditate. Okay?

They go around in the desire tours and talk about the pending over and over again. And they don't meditate. Okay?

So they don't have that breakthrough where they become an arya. See what I mean? And then other people meditate for a long time but don't study the pending.

It's the same problem. Okay? So ideally, you go to a class, you hear about the pending, and then you go cogitate, how can I make the impossible stuff happen in my life?

Okay? And then something radical will happen to you. Okay?

The thing you had in your mind called impossible, you understand that it never was. Okay? The image in your mind of Michael as a very good ballet dancer without having to change his schedule much, that fades away because it's not true.

Okay? The reason he didn't reach that dream was not because he didn't have the money or the time or the physical body. It was that he didn't plant the seeds.

The impossible ballet dancer that used to be there fades, disappears. That's emptiness. What happens to your impossible after a good teaching about the pen is that your impossible fades away because it was always unreal.

It was always not correct. There are no impossibles. You can do anything.

You can become anything. You have been everything, except enlightened. Okay?

You've been everything. All the boys here have been in this America countless times. All the ladies have been, I don't know, president of the pub.

You've been in the pub countless times. Okay? You've been everything.

And so nothing's impossible. It's not true that anything's impossible because it's coming from seeds. You just plant the seed and it happens.

Okay? So the thing that you used to think was impossible was a falsehood and it never existed. And it was an illusion.

That's the meaning of illusion. Okay? Got it?

Until you get to that point where the impossible fades away, until you get to that point, the meditation on the process cannot enlighten you. It cannot change your being into an RSV. Okay?

There's something about seeing that what you thought was real is no longer real that changes your being completely. Okay? In a unique way that understanding where stuff comes from cannot.

Which means you can do DCI tours and you can travel around and you can go to lots of countries and talk to people but you still have to meditate. You still have to sit down and meditate. And if you meditate without understanding the thought process, you're not going to get anywhere either.

You have to have a both, a balance. Okay? Of the rational and the mystical if you want to put it that way.

You have to have both. You can't get the mystical without the rational. To get to the rational without the mystical is useless.

Got it? Alright. One more verse for Mr. Kualu. Because he's so cool. By the way, we have to have a hand for all the three year students. Can you raise your hand for all the three year students?

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Last night we had a Seichu. I think there were 45 people who had higher empowerment. That's the most I've ever seen in one place.

Outside of Sarah. I don't know. To me that was a big deal.

It felt really good. We were listening to this lady singing. She stopped singing and said, Who are you?

And we didn't do anything. We were just sitting there. And she goes, Who are you?

And we're like, Who are you? Last line. Okay, it's a final irony brought up by the devil.

To meditate on the process of how the pen has come into being without going on to the next step. Which for the pen is what? Yeah.

It wasn't made in a factory in Japan. And I didn't obtain it through money. Those are fallacies.

They are wrong. If you work your whole life to make money to buy things, or you go to factories to get things, you're wasting your time. And then you're unhappy.

Because you can't get the things you want that way. It works sometimes and it doesn't work other times. And you get frustrated your whole life.

Just share a pen with other people. And then you'll always have enough pens. And then there's no frustration.

There's no anxiety. It always works. Got it?

So, there's two pens in my hand. One is the pen that was obtained by buying at a store. A pen that was made in Japan.

In a factory in Japan. And then, there's a second pen in my hand, which you get to see because you have a karmic seed in your mind, which was put there when you shared pens with other people. Which is moral and kind and compassionate.

And that's the basis of yoga. Now, which pen is real? Yeah, the second one.

The pen that you're seeing because you were generous with other people is the pen in my hand. The apparent pen, which is called kunzoku, right? What's kunzoku?

Apparent. Seems to be. The apparent pen in my hand, the one that was bought with dollars and which was produced in a factory in Japan, that pen doesn't exist, never existed and couldn't exist and never will exist.

Okay, is that enough? Couldn't exist. It's impossible.

That's impossible. Impossibles are impossible. How's that?

The only thing that's impossible is impossibles. Got it? That's impossible.

For a pen to be in my hand because it was made in Japan, that's false. There's no such thing. But we believe that.

And we work for money and we keep things. And we don't share them, so we deny ourselves those things. It's very tragic, but it's also kind of cool.

The opposite is fun. It's fun to share stuff. And that's how you get stuff.

All right. de la ne luk go ma ser. If you say meditate...

Now it's very subtle, okay? That's why people don't teach this text very often, because it's just very difficult. To call that a meditation on ne luk, say ne luk.

Ne luk means the way things are. Ne luk. Ne means to be or to stay.

And luk means the way, like ganugpa. The way of virtue. Ne luk means real nature and things.

That's ne luk. To call that a meditation on ne luk, what? Meditating on the process by which I'm seeing a pen.

A karmic seed planted by sharing pens with others puts in my mind, the seed opens, a small luminous image of a pen comes out of my mind, and I mistake that for a pen. Okay? And that's all I'm looking at ever.

And the picture is so good I can write with it. That's cool. That's important to appreciate.

Okay? The picture is so good I can write with it. But to say that's a meditation on reality itself, on ultimate reality, higher reality, ser, shepa kunzok yinpardak, is a mistake.

Why? Shepa kunzok. Shepa itself is kunzok.

The mind and thought processes are not ultimate reality. They are relative reality. They are deceptive reality.

There are two kinds of realities in Buddhism. Ultimate reality, which is defined as that thing which when seen directly changes your being permanently. Kicks you up to a higher form of evolution.

That's the definition of ultimate reality. If you see it, your being gets kicked up to a higher level of evolution in 20 minutes. Okay?

Got it? And then there's another reality which is called deceptive reality. And we live in the deceptive reality all the time.

Okay? Most people in their lifetime never see anything else. Deceptive reality is all the other stuff in your life.

That's called deceptive reality. Why is it deceptive? Why is it called deceptive?

Why is this deceptive reality? It fools you. Its nature is to fool you.

You think it comes from a factory in Japan and that you obtain it by paying money, right? And that's it. It fools you.

It tricks you. Okay? So here's a cool question in the debate ground.

Can a Buddha see deceptive reality? Can a Buddha see a pen? Careful.

You don't have to be like a chess player in the debate ground. You have to guess where the guy's going because you don't want to be trapped. Can a Buddha see a pen?

[Speaker 2]
Yes.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. So are they deceived by the pen?

[Speaker 2]
No.

[Speaker 1]
But are they seeing deceptive reality? No. They're seeing reality but they're not deceived by it.

So it's not deceptive reality? So it's not deceptive reality? So it's not a pen for them?

Because pens are always deceptive reality. Huh? This is deceptive reality because it seems to be made ineffective by the pen and it seems like I can only obtain it by paying money.

That's a lie. All objects in the world are a lie to us. That's deceptive reality.

Does a Buddha see a pen? Yes. So are they deceived?

No. So they look at deceptive reality but they're not deceived. That's the point.

Normal people are. Normal people are always the opposite of others. Normal people are deceived by the pen.

That's deceptive reality. Why are we talking about that? Hang with me.

Stay with me. If you fall asleep, I'll be really real to you. Now I forgot what I was going to say.

Is watching the thought processes in your mind as you go through where the pen really came from is the object which you are watching ultimate reality or deceptive reality? As you listen to your thoughts about your new understanding of where the pen comes from, as you observe those thoughts pass through your mind, are you watching ultimate reality or are you watching deceptive reality? It's deceptive.

That's really important. That's deceptive. A normal person, before they see emptiness directly, even as they struggle to understand where things really come from and they observe their mind thinking even correctly about where this comes from, they are enmeshed in deceptive reality.

Get this, and that's the last point he's making in this section. Even as you struggle to understand the pen, you have a feeling that you are coming from yourself. Even as you struggle, even as you look at the pen and reflect on how it's coming from seeds, you are already misunderstanding the pen, as you think about it.

And as you're aware of your own thoughts, you're misunderstanding your own thoughts. Understand? It's like very terrible.

It's a very terrible thing. You cannot perceive a pen. You cannot do a thought without misunderstanding the pen and without misunderstanding the thought even as you're thinking about where the pen really does come from.

Because it's ingrained in a human being. It's part of their nature. It's ingrained.

It's part of human nature. So that's his point here. So now we can finish this verse and then do eight minutes of questions and go home.

kun tso goma me luk du So really, a person who's watching their own mind, as they go through the thought process of where this really comes from, popping out as a luminous image which is applied to the pen, are they focused on me luk, ultimate reality, or are they focused on kun tso, deceptive reality? And that's what he says here. They make the mistake of thinking that meditating on something which is deceiving them could be a meditation on emptiness.

Okay? Got it? Very subtle.

Then he finishes. What kind of idea is that? How does the devil feel about very subtle meditators who are in the act of understanding the pen believe that their mind comes from itself?

What does he say? Read the Tibetan. Next line.

No, what's it say? Ha-ha. Okay, it's the same in English.

Ha-ha in Tibetan is the same in English. It means ha-ha. Who's saying that?

The devil. He's like, ha-ha. You understand where the pen comes from and you're in the middle of deceptive reality.

It's so cool. And you think you're meditating on emptiness. Ha-ha, that's so cool.

Okay. Your version of wisdom is Zen. The short-term memory is really bad.

Maybe that's an effect of three-year retreat or something. No, you've got to say it like, weird. Your version of wisdom is weird.

Okay. Who's saying that? Who's he saying it to?

Wisdom. He's saying it to the angel. You're a weird angel.

In the middle of being ignorant, you think that's a meditation. Ha-ha. Okay, last line.

Can you say this for me? Those Tibetan scholars, okay? And then I'll let you go home.

I'll let you ask one question just because I told this. Na-ni. What's so-ma-ni?

Empty-ness. The ness, which is ta in Sanskrit, shun-ya, ta, which came into English as shun, not emotion or friction. The state, that state.

In Tibetan, the word ni means an exclusive, it means nothing but. Okay. Na-ni.

Me and nothing else. Who's me here? The devil.

Me and nothing else. Okay. Meditating on me, na-to, you're to-to.

What you're meditating, by the way, the na here can also be self. You're meditating on yourself. Meditating the way you're meditating is to talk about me.

That kind of attitude is my power. That's how he closes that sentence. Thanks.

Thanks for thinking that thinking about the pen correctly is a meditation on me. That's my body. Na-ni?

It's very subtle. Is it wrong to understand the pen? To think that you should stop there and not go sit on your meditation coach every day for at least, I don't know, 45 minutes or whatever in good meditation is foolish.

You cannot see emptiness in discursive thought process. It's not possible to see emptiness in that way. There's some weird Japanese thing I was talking with and I said it's all wrong.

It's foolish. It's not possible. It doesn't work like that.

There's no Buddhist scripture that ever said that. Okay? You can have insights into meditation on Shakyamuni.

And that's very common. Because you're doing it for your teacher. That's very common.

That's correct. They have Dharanama spirit, the second half. You can't do that Okay?

Okay, Mr. Kami. Thanks for asking. I could do it all night, but then nobody would come and sit up and study with me.

Yeah, I'll say it. And the Vassal. Vassal.

Vassal. Partly. Partly.

There's a conscious there's a conscious feeling about your thought processes and then there's an inborn feeling about your thought processes. So one is called present thought and one is called present thinking. One is inborn.

All beings have it. Ants have it. Cockroaches have it.

Birds have it. They have a feeling about themselves which is wrong. And that's innate.

And then the other is learned. It's intellectual. If I ask you, do you come from yourself and you say no, then you've overcome the intellectual belief that you come from yourself.

But to really overcome the inborn one, it takes much longer. So he's trying to point out that difference. To discuss in your mind how you're not coming from anything but a seed in your mind overcomes the belief, the intellectual belief and it's a step forward.

But I'll tell you everything about the inborn belief you can't overcome. So it's both an intellectual belief that Japan was made in Japan and it's an inborn belief which is much more straddle and profound. Even as you build up a pen to describe how it wasn't made in a factory in Japan, you believe it was.

But at least you should hear someone say that's not medical. Maybe you can chew on it. You can work on it.

One more question. Somebody who's not a regular can you tell us can you just talk loud? Is that ok?

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Yeah, good.

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I think what we were saying was we were describing the process of when you think about how your mind works and the way your mind works is the same as the pen. So what many people don't know is that whatever is true about outer stuff and people you meet is also true about the thoughts that you hear in your mind. So the nature of the thoughts that you hear in your mind is very similar to the light coming from a star which is many light years away.

If that light left those stars there's a supernova that was visible in 1052 or 54, I don't remember. And now it's not visible anymore. I think it's in Gemini.

Or the one next to Gemini which is Taurus. So in one of those constellations there's a in one of the nebulae there was actually a supernova that was so bright that it was as visible as Venus in 1054. And now it's already burned out.

It's kind of cool. But the light that left that star, the light that was seen on this planet in 1054 as the brightest star finished many millions of years before that. And it took that long to get here.

By the time you see it it's dead, it's gone. The star's already gone. Why am I talking about that?

By the time you hear a thought it's already gone. It has already been a millisecond ago. And the person who thunk it is already gone into the past.

You are not having you are not thinking your thoughts. You are hearing something that someone thunked a moment before. And you can't reach them, and you can't contact them, and there's nothing you can do in the present time to affect something that happened a millisecond ago.

Because that's gone. Forever. You can't have a discussion with someone who left on the bus yesterday.

Understand? So when you hear a thought in your mind that also is coming out of a karmic seed. So if you're depressed, you're always going to be depressed.

You can't affect your thoughts in the present moment. It's not possible. You also can't affect your friends in the present moment.

They are light that left from a star a week ago. Your friends, your situation, how people relate to you, problems you have in your life, it's too late to do anything about them. They are light which left the star last week.

All you can do is what? Heyam do come from the dark. Say heyam.

Heyam means to be given up or to be abandoned. They come suffering. It hasn't arrived yet.

The only something you can address, the only thing you can address is that you're becoming light. It's too late now. It's coming from the star that's already gone.

You see what I mean? Why are we talking about that? So what I meant to say was to understand this thing.

I'm not teaching it to you. It's coming out of seeds in your mind. You created me.

Which I always like to point out to the people who don't like me or the people who don't like to talk tonight, you can blame yourself. I'm coming out of your mind. If you like what I'm saying, that's me.

Why am I talking about that? So you have thought processes in your mind which are actually ripenings from nice things you did for people last time. Hearing me explain the pen is coming from you.

And it's coming because you struggle to share your own wisdom or your own knowledge. And that's why you're doing something about reality tonight. It's coming from you, okay?

Then what I said and what I did with what you said was you have to go your own way. You have to be proactive. You can't just sit around and wait for thoughts to pop up out of nothing.

You might be subjected to a lot of bad stuff. So you might hear thoughts of depression or jealousy or desire or lust or hunger. All kinds of bad things that are popping out of old seeds.

So you have to go beyond being a passive listener to your mind. Keep planting the seeds to have a pleasant mind pop up next week. In my garden, we spend a lot of time picking out plants and planting seeds for plants to come in June or July.

And that's life. So rather than standing there and looking at the dirt and accepting whatever pops out, which is usually a week, okay? Sometimes it's a pretty week.

You can be proactive about your own mind and share what you know about it. And the scriptures are careful to say to whatever degree you understand, if you try to share it, the karma of that will be that you'll understand stuff better next week. You will hear yourself understand better next week.

Because that's coming out of a seed from attempting to share with others. Okay? Got it?

So that's what I was trying to say. Go beyond listening to your mind. Say things that were left aside a week ago.

And you get proactive and you plant the thoughts that you want for next week. But you can't change your current thoughts. Don't go crazy about it.

All psychology is useless.

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Psychology is useless.

[Speaker 1]
You cannot change your mind. If you do a psychological method and your mind changes, it's because the seed's changed, and not because you tried anything. Okay?

It would have happened anyway. Okay? Does that mean I shouldn't go to a psychiatrist?

No, you should go, but first you should help somebody else that's having a problem. Then what the psychiatrist tells you will work. Understand?

Does it mean I'm in my saying you should never go to a psychiatrist? I'm not saying that. I'm saying you should never do yoga if you want to have a healthy body.

Yeah, you can do yoga, but first you have to go to the hospital. Then the yoga will work. If you don't go to the hospital and you do the same poses, you'll hurt your neck.

Okay? Long answer. No, we got time.

Okay. Oh, yeah. You want to see something cool?

Do you mind? If you've got to go, go. Don't be shy.

Just stand up and walk out. Okay? You ready, Adam?

I want to show you our proposal for our Chinese sponsors about a college where you want to go and sit down. Okay? Because some of you, I know, you're refugees, and maybe you want to visit or move there or something.

So, and Nicole has been working very hard on closing this deal. And we've made offers on two buildings in Sedona, and an offer was accepted yesterday? The day before.

But we just didn't have the money yet. So anyway, that's the building in the village of Oak Creek. Oak Creek is in Sedona.

It's just closer to my house. I like that Bell Rock, because that's a very famous stupa in Thailand. And that's Bell Rock.

And they look the same to me. Bell Rock is visible out the windows of the building. It's one of the two most famous structures in Sedona.

Matthew, ambitious? Okay. That's the view out the window.

We took a photo out the window. So you see Bell Rock and a thing called Cathedral Rock, which is the thing with the rainbow on it. So these are the two coasts.

I did my first Roger Dean retreat there. And I was walking around and I said, gee, the whole ground is red. The dirt is red.

It's kind of awesome. Okay, so that's an office. That's what the office will look like.

And we'll have a conference room for large classes, like up to 50 or 100 people, something like that. So we intend to have VIP trainings from people from Europe or Asia. We pay to come and have a vacation in Sedona and take a five-day Tsongkhapa course, which we already did with VIPs in China.

Next. Then the sponsor wants a shrine room and a meditation room in the building. So that's upstairs.

And we want to teach DCI teachers there and we want to offer ACI courses. So you can come there and get your 18 ACI courses done. And then we're requiring that DCI teachers go through their 18 ACI courses.

So everybody who teaches, the 33 people who are already teaching for DCI, are required to finish four to four ACI courses a year until they finish. And then they have to finish their 18 higher courses. And then they have to deliver.

It never ends. Then we want to have a video production facility. We want to make Hollywood videos and we want to make YouTube videos.

So we have a project. We already have funding to make 200 YouTube videos for learning Tibetan and learning to use the ACI program. Then we have we have a sponsor wants traditional switches there.

So we'll have ACI researchers go on there. We're still cataloging. Jim makes the cataloging look ugly in a very slow way.

And we're cataloging. Phil is cataloging the juniors and other people are working on the seniors. That will take 150 people.

So it's nice to have a place to do it. That's the reception area. That's finance, administration, marketing.

There will be a sound system, music practice. We put that in this she and I put it in this afternoon. And I like a small cafe in the lounge.

So that's the structure. The place will be a college. The training is a AVI program.

Doing online courses, filming online courses, holding simultaneous online courses, etc. So anyway, if you want to help out or you want to come and see it, talk to Nicole. She's been organizing the whole purchase of the building.

We have to remodel it. I'm thinking there's three people in my life I know who are not four, but three are available who are good at remodeling places. One is Chloe, wherever you are.

You know, she just has a natural talent for it that she doesn't know about. And I mean, Hitchcock, I'd like to get involved because she has a natural talent for it. Who was the third person?

Christine Walsh. She doesn't know she has a talent for it. But her house, if you go to her house, there's certain people that have a certain talent for it.

So what we'd like to do is get them involved in the remodeling. So anyway, if you're interested in that college or know any more about it, talk to Nicole. Alright.

Diner Mountain is open for business at the Retreat Center and people are already coming. We're doing our first big retreat there in October. In 29, am I right?

26? Correct me. 26 cabins that were built by these guys and donated for free to your future retreats.

So I think we should give them a hand. Applause So they built it at their own expense. Most of them spent every penny they had and more.

Which they're still paying off. Laughter And they're penniless. And they gave those buildings for you to do retreats.

So if you're interested in doing a retreat, talk to them. I think that's awesome. So if you want to do a one-week retreat or a three-day retreat, we're not just talking three years, okay?

Personally, I think one month is fine. I think a lot of one-monthers is probably worth a three-year. But you don't get as much publicity.

About ten days is great. Now you can just go if you want. Okay?

Alright. Let's get a bit of a... Yeah.

Let's do the conduct unit. The kids of the children of truth. In the name of God to one show.

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