Вордсмит — Книга 2: Трудные места школы «Ум только», занятие 39

[Speaker 1]
He's stoked. This surfer thing is starting to spread like a virus. Stoked.

I think I said stoked for the first time recently. Stoked about the class. Being an East Coaster, it's hard to form those words with my mouth.

I say psyched, like I can't say stoked. How do you know when you're a Grom though? What's a sign that you're a real Grom?

When you're scared to surf waves over four feet. No, when you say, God, that was a sick wave. All right, we're ready for your homework, young man.

Who's up? Is it Dr. Word? It's you, handsome.

Oh, I thought I was on at 730. Yeah, it's Word. Aren't you stoked?

Wait, did I get it wrong? I'm super stoked for Word's text. Oh, it is Word.

Okay. Let's do it. All right, here we go.

I'm sorry, Dad. Father Word? Wait.

Okay, let us do the work of home. Okay, so I try to keep it simple to make it fun. How do seeds that are provisional?

I'm as excited as you are, Geshe-la. I was working hard. I'm not like you.

You just collect the money. You probably just go to the bank to check what's there, you know? He just hears concepts and remembers them infinitely.

Irritating, isn't it? Not anymore. You're lucky for a lot of work.

How do seeds that are provisional relate with seeds with no beginning? I don't know. Yeah, I'm gonna let other people have a chance.

I know no one ever offers me money from them. I offered you money the last time.

[Speaker 2]
Word, can you zoom in a little bit?

[Speaker 1]
Zoom in? Maximum? What's provisional?

Yeah, very chic.

[Speaker 3]
Provisional, me? Yeah, I'm a waiter. Sorry.

[Speaker 1]
The guy at the bike store. No, he's from coffee land. He probably works for Starbucks.

You could say temporary, Rob. Okay, cool.

[Speaker 2]
Short term? You mean those freshly planted?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, the fresh ones.

[Speaker 2]
Well, those seeds will wake up the seeds with no beginning?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Oh, nice. Wait, how much?

The usual, Stanley.

[Speaker 3]
Oh.

[Speaker 1]
100 about to... Negative 100. You know, seeds help to ripen seeds that are beginningless.

It sounds awkward, but that's what it is. Hey, Stanley, how does word resemble my cafe?

[Speaker 2]
Oh, the money only goes in?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay. Works for me.

What are three methods Jason Coppa alludes to to ripening seeds that are beginningless? Or maybe for ripening? Oh, that's so easy.

All the other stuff is way hard, and they just sit there, and it's boring.

[Speaker 3]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Tim says tisamgon. That's right. It's screaming.

She's calling Geru. Sorry. I thought it was the pre-scream for a word to get used to.

[Speaker 2]
It's on its way.

[Speaker 1]
What three? What is then the logical conclusion concerning all three types of seeds? At least my logical conclusion.

I don't know. Jason Coppa alluded to it. He didn't say it precisely, but we talked about it.

That they're all beginningless? Who said that, Rob? That's worth a couple hundred bucks, I'd say.

You're a smart waiter, man. Come on, that's worth some money. Anyone is free to pay the man.

I'm here for him. I'm glad I got your support. Right behind you here.

Okay, here's some tibetan. You can. Is that planter here?

It is. Do you want to explain how it's planter? Well, we've been talking a lot since five years ago about how the kunchi is the place where the seeds are smeared or planted.

And in this case, we're talking about a seed that's already or that's going to be planted. And so it's good. And the ken is a doer, an actor of a thing.

So a go-ken is the one who's smearing into the kunchi or planting. Exactly. Very good, Nick.

Yay. Smear. Yes.

I think smear is funnier, but planters better transition. I got a smear. I'll show you.

Go ahead. Okay. Show us smear.

Drupa. Drup. Drup.

Drupa. I mean, a couple of things. I don't know if you remember the context, but.

Is this contextually a special definition of Drupa? Not that special, but I mean, it's. Like fulfillment?

Yeah, that's, I think that that's perfect. I didn't actually write that one, but I think that would be actually what should be my translation. It can be, it can be practice established or complete.

We're still trying to figure out, but I thought I liked fulfillment for our context. Thank you.

[Speaker 2]
My pleasure.

[Speaker 1]
And then. True. Hey, I got this mirror.

Let me see. I got this mirror. Hang on.

Let me see. Oh. Which smear is that?

The emperor of Mitreana. Hang on. Oh.

Oh my God. He is a good Ken. That's a smear.

You got to say.

[Speaker 2]
He's an artist.

[Speaker 1]
Oh my God. He's talented.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, right there.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Is this your provisional work? Hey.

Maybe you could use some of the money you win from me to buy some of these paintings. Let's wait for the film to allow you a little bit. Okay, sorry to interrupt your homework.

Isn't it separate? No. That's dull.

This means what Venerable Upala said. Provisional. Venerable Upala, 50 bucks if you tell me the opposite that's usable.

Oh my gosh. Say that again. Okay.

The sun is burning my head. It's the opposite of.

[Speaker 2]
I don't know.

[Speaker 3]
Ultimate, right?

[Speaker 2]
The bad.

[Speaker 1]
Not you, Venerable Upala. Who would have said ultimate? I'm making fun.

[Speaker 3]
Uh.

[Speaker 1]
I think I have a. I don't know the word. I'll give Nick 20 bucks if you tell me.

I don't know the word anyway. I think I remember the concept vaguely. We've had it like five times.

Poop. They always go together. I wouldn't have got it anyway.

Can you spell it? Poop. P-H-U-G.

Poop. Anyway, P-H-U-G-S. Oh, temporary, provisional.

Yeah. Okay. Translation.

It's good to have you. Then just do the facts. Day two.

I just have to pay. Champagne. Uh.

Uh. Bok chok sar du. Tupay shabpa ni.

Refresh the planet. Uh. Ni me na.

Shabpa ni me na. Chu nyi kyi. Yipay bok chok tsam ni.

Dupay rik mayin pay. Dey tsam shi yipay rik. Sipa thangwa shi go.

Huh? Dey chok tupay bok chok. Sar du tupay shabpa ni.

Me na. Uh. Uh.

A, a, a, a, a seed, a propensity for listening, right? Yeah. Which is planted by the act of going to class or listening to the Mixed Nuts, for example.

Okay. Doesn't exist. Doesn't it?

Oh, that's the me? Yeah, there is no such thing. Oh.

But. Chu nyi kyi nepay bok chok tsam ni. Dupay rik mayin pay.

Chu nyi kyi nepay bok chok tsam ni. But, uh, the, the, the seed, uh, that is planted, uh, sorry, the seed that is present by the very nature of things, okay, tsam ni, dupay rik mayin, is not something which is newly created or newly accomplished. Therefore, de tsam shi yupe, but there does exist, uh, a seed such as that which exists by nature.

Uh, therefore, uh, rik sepa thangwa shi shi go. Then if, if, if bok choks, if the, if the seed which is there by nature could not be furthered by a newly planted seed, then what's the point of the whole concept called rik sepa? Right?

The fact that, uh, rik sepa thangwa, uh, the, uh, the natural seed that you have would have to be awakened, right?

[Speaker 2]
We'll get the rest later.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. Um, all right, you want to try the next one? Yeah, and then he's gonna talk about two different families of seeds or types of seeds.

This rik is types of seeds, and he says there's two, generally, uh, there's two types of seeds. One, which is rangshin tungme pa. It has been there since forever by the nature of things.

And then gyepay rik, which means types of seeds which further the natural seed for enlightenment. So gyepa means a verb here. They further, or they fatten up, uh, the seed which is there by nature.

Gyepa means to further or to make, to make, you see what I mean? So he says, somebody asks a question, uh, you've explained seeds which are there by nature, and you've, then you've explained seeds that function to further that seed, or to fatten up that seed. Okay, gyepa rik.

So how do you explain those two things? Okay, uh, then he defines a seed which is, which is present by nature, and then he defines a seed which furthers that seed. Okay, uh, the first is rangshin tungme pa rik ni.

Uh, the type of seed, uh, which is there by nature, jok chey la ma dukpar, yeah, it does not depend upon a planter. Uh, ngo nyi kyi nepa, it's, uh, no, kyech tar kyi, instrumental, k-y-i-s. Yeah, I was looking at that, I couldn't get it though.

Yeah, it, it resides there by the very nature of things. Again, ngo nyi kyi and chun nyi kyi same. Okay, uh, okay, uh, it, it resides by, by nature, without depending upon anything to plant it.

Uh, there we, therefore we can say that it is the seed of things which are sakme. And we had three of those sakme things in, who's next? Stanley?

Stanley. Yeah, Stanley, 2021-22, right? Yeah, three powers.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, right.

[Speaker 1]
Uh, okay. shen gyi dra dang tsu shing yi che kyi khen dang chenwa, te dang sampa dang gompa pel ri gyur pa nyi si gyur pa shi go. Uh, yeah, if you are exposed to, shen gyi dra here means, uh, the words of others, meaning your teacher, okay, a teacher.

Here, it means, uh, the sounds that come from other people. Which means, uh, a mix nuts class. It's called shen gyi dra.

And tsu shing yi che, what's that? Uh, what'd you say? Sorry again, tsu shing?

Uh, shen gyi dra is the mix nuts, is Geshe-la teaching the mix nuts class. What's tsu shing yi che? Maybe that's contemplating?

No, it means, uh, paying attention to class correctly. Oh, okay. Directing your mind to the, to the sounds emanating out of the teacher's mouth.

Okay, uh, if, if the seed which is there by nature, uh, khen dang che, if, if that natural seed bumps into che, uh, the right factors, which is the sound of the teacher talking, and you listening to that sound attentively, okay, uh, if, if those factors are present, uh, then, uh, the seed which is there by nature will be powa by tu sam gong. Will be, will expand, spread? Yeah, yeah, it'll be, it'll be increased.

The, it'll be furthered. Why? The seed you have by, the seed for enlightenment that you already have is furthered or increased by the threefold process of tu sam gong.

If you meet the necessary conditions, which is a person blah-blah-blah-ing in class, and you listening to that blah-blah properly. Okay, got it? Then those are examples of rang shin nepa and gyepay rig.

Rang shin nepa is the seed that was there in the beginning. Gyepay rig is the process of learning which brings that seed to its completion, to its final awakening. Cool?

It's a beautiful idea. And it's weird. Why?

Because, I don't know, something that's unchanging can be, can be furthered? What do you call it? What do you call that?

What do you do with kids? You...

[Speaker 2]
Nurture them.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, nurture them. It's a weird idea that a seed that's been there forever, which is really the emptiness of your body and mind, can be nurtured? What is emptiness, you're saying?

Yeah, you're saying emptiness can be nurtured. That's this whole point. They're saying there's two kinds of seeds.

All right, we're very fascinating topic. Okay, next one again. All right, let's go.

Give me the screen. Thank you. All right, where are you?

Here we go. Let me get this stuff out of the way. Okay, let me get this.

He doesn't want to. Okay. So, oh, I'm sorry, I'm in the wrong text.

And why don't we go... No, you're in the right place, aren't you? No, wrong text, I think.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, that matched what I had in my notes.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, I'm sorry, maybe I was in the right text. The right text, go. Is it?

No, this is... Mine only. Yeah.

No, I think this is...

[Speaker 2]
A different version?

[Speaker 1]
No, this is next text.

[Speaker 2]
No, it says mind only on it.

[Speaker 1]
No, it doesn't. It says Ratna.

[Speaker 3]
Oh, not what we see, Geshe-la.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, we see one that says mind only auto commentary. Oh, that's weird. Okay, hang on.

Your cursor was just on it. Okay, now I got it. It's a weird thing.

It's almost as if it's coming from us. Yeah, I was just gonna say. I guess you really wanted this to be Nick's class again.

No, no, no. Well, I don't know, I made a mistake in the car. I was preparing for the wrong thing.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Where's the part that you did?

[Speaker 3]
It's below that one.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, okay, so we have to finish these two pieces. Right, word? Yeah, this statement that was just made, please read and Uncle Nick does want to check you.

Oh, okay, cool. No, I just, I didn't know I skipped this section. Yeah, yeah, looks like.

Okay. Yeah, this is a difficult thing. So if you're talking about a natural seed, which is later grown, right?

What's that mean? You have to examine. Oh, sorry.

This is a weird question. We gotta look into this, okay? We gotta look into this.

What's that mean? Seeds for listening. Yeah, no, seeds which are created by attending class.

Okay, seeds which are created by attending class. Are freshly planted. Yeah.

No, they're not. Okay, they could not be freshly planted in the case that you're talking about. Depa is a word that I'm not familiar with, but I looked it up and it makes good sense.

Makes, it causes the thing to prosper or to grow. Okay, what do you call that? There's a better word.

[Speaker 3]
Perpetuate?

[Speaker 1]
No, to make something grow. Licorice? Oh, nurture?

Nurture is okay, but there's a better word. Anyway, depa means sort of nurture, okay? So the threefold process of listening to going to class, thinking about what the teacher says, and meditating about what you concluded, they act to nurture that impossible seed, okay?

So I think the idea here, word, is that the natural seed, rangchen nirik, is not, cannot be planted. Jok che. Okay?

It cannot be planted, for example, by education about what that seed is. But rather, it's gotta, it has to have been there, rangchen tun depa, for time with no beginning, by nature, okay? But although you can't plant that seed by learning, you can further it by learning, okay?

Depa. The Buddha nature in a person, the seed for final enlightenment, is not something which is planted by anybody. It's always been there.

So you can't talk about it being planted by Buddhist education. But you can talk about it being strengthened by a Buddhist education, and brought to fruition, how's that? Okay, got it?

You okay? All right. Please read, and Nick is still checking you.

I did these next two. All right. Oh, okay.

Yeah, okay. Therefore, thupay bachay sadhu thupay shabpa ni, when you plant a new seed by going to class, that's not planting the natural seed. chen yi gyi nepa bachay tsam ni, the natural seed is jukpe rigmayen.

It's not something you could ever create, okay? de tsam shik yukpe, but it does exist. So you'd have to talk about it being awakened, okay?

It must be that it's awakened, even though it's not created, okay? It's woked up, but it's not created, okay? dir rangshin ne nepa dang gyepay rig, and by the way, in the classical literature, you'll see the term rangshin nepa and rangshin gyepa, okay?

He doesn't use it here, but you do see it in other places, okay? So there are seeds which exist by nature, and there are seeds whose nature is furthered, gyepa, okay? There are seeds that exist by nature, rangshin tu nepa, and there are other seeds that are, and there's an aspect of those seeds which is fulfilled by nature.

They have a nature of being increased or brought to fruition, okay? So he says, how do you define the difference between the seed that's been there forever, that has a nature since forever, which is there naturally, and the other which has a nature of needing to be brought to fruition, okay? How do you describe the difference?

rangshin tu nepa rigme, when we talk about rangshin ne re, the type of seed which has been there forever, jokje lama tupar, nobody had to plant it, ngo nyi kyi nepa, it's theirs from the beginning, sapa mepa, it is beyond all impurities, chönnam kyi sabun, it is the seed of those qualities, of those unborn qualities, shen kyi dra dang, tsu shing yi che kyi khen dang chen na, if that natural seed meets shen kyi dra, the sound of a teacher teaching mixed nuts class, and especially, tsu shing yi che, which means what? If the student's paying attention properly, then that natural seed will meet certain conditions called tu sam gong, which will increase the natural seed and eventually bring it to open into enlightenment, okay? Cool.

Now, nice question coming up, Nick. Sorry, not word. Rob Haggerty, check this guy.

Word, make a mistake just out of compassion. Okay. Chi cheer, rangshin tu nepa rigme.

That was actually a pretty good start. That was good. Rick, she ya, she na.

Ja, she ja? She ja, right. She ja.

Chok che kyi sardu shakpa, min par du ma ne.

[Speaker 3]
Du ma? No. You had it right.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Du ma ne. Du ma ne, chus ni kyi.

Chus. Chus. Chus.

Chus ni kyi nepe chiru. Nice. You can translate this word.

I'll just listen and criticize you when I feel like it. Perfect. The usual.

Yep. Why is it, you may ask, do we call them seeds that stay, or something that stays by its very nature? Yeah, good, good.

Okay. Chok che kyi, because planters, sardu shakpa, min, are not fresh. No, it is not something which is chokpa, by a chok che sardu.

It's not something that has been freshly planted. Yeah. Because, chir, it is something that stayed by its very nature from, has stayed by its very nature since primordial beginning.

Yeah, I like to translate du ma ne as time with no beginning. It has been existed in your being by the very nature of things for time with no beginning. That's, yeah, go ahead.

I said primordial because we also have tok ma me, so, you know, we're going to- I'm sorry, what's that? In the text also says tok ma me, so- Oh yeah, you can say that, beginning this time, yeah. Okay, good.

Keep going, I think, and Rob, how can he keep checking? He's probably going to make a mistake on purpose, I hope. Oh, okay.

[Speaker 3]
Is that right? Am I wrong? No, you're right.

He's wrong.

[Speaker 1]
I'm just playing along, Rob.

[Speaker 3]
I don't know that word. J? No.

J? J.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, that's exactly right, so he must have made a boo-boo. Okay, good. You can translate up to the first comma.

Come on, I can do more than that. I know, I knew you'd say that. Predictable.

Chichir, why is it they are called the seeds that come from listening? Nice, seeds from listening to the mixed nuts, for example. So in the last paragraph he said, why do they call them seeds that you've had forever?

And now he says, why do they call them seeds that come freshly from listening? If you take sanggye and canju sembas... If you meet Buddhas and bodhisattvas...

Yeah, and I'm going to skip to here. And if you trepa something like the sungrab yenlak chunyi... If you listen to the highest spoken word broken down into 12 different parts...

Yeah, the 12 categories of scripture, okay? Then that becomes a gyud tumba. Seed of a similar type.

That has sort of a... What do you call it? A sympathetic effect.

Like guitar strings, okay? Yeah, it resonates. Yeah, good.

It resonates with chökyi ying, which is shinto nobodapa. With the realm of is, which is extremely perfectly pure. Yeah, which means emptiness.

So it's a very interesting sentence here. If you are lucky enough to meet up with Buddhas and bodhisattvas, and if you listen to their teachings on the 12 parts of the Buddha's word, then it resonates with the emptiness inside of you. It's a beautiful idea, okay?

NAM THUB PA'I NASA KHYUR The things you are listening to are the 12 different varieties of Buddhist scripture. And we went through those in great detail somewhere, I don't remember. Yeah, we did it at least in Lam Rim class.

You did it extensively, but... Yeah, and I had a lot of fun with that, and then I used it in a DCI course somewhere. Yeah, I think we did it in, I think it's the Golden Key, we have a footnote.

Yeah, maybe you can ask the author to show it to us later. I heard he's not very nice, so I don't know. Let's see.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, he's a jewel, don't worry.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, okay, please read, and who's going to check you? Earl Burney wants to check you. Or Stera, Stera can whisper in your ear, Earl.

And okay, so here we go. Try to make some mistakes, we're at the New York Masters. Oh man, I can't show that to you guys.

There was a special on CBS about the Three Jewels. A beautiful, beautiful special about a meditation from the Three Jewels who teaches in Harlem. Anyway, hope you see it someday.

Thank you. Yeah, I don't know why he puts this sentence here. I think we had it before.

Cicir, why do they talk about an exceptional form of the Six Doors of Sense? We had it in reference to the Six Doors of Sense of a bodhisattva and how it gets imbued with and is connected to RANG BZHING NI RIG. Okay, sounds good to me.

I don't remember, but okay. So why are these natural seeds described as having a feature of the Six Doors of Sense? ZHES NA, RANG NYID GANG GI RGYUD LA BSTAN PA'I SKYE MCHED DU ZHES NAS SKYE BA DU BYED PA'I PHYIR RO The intent is to distinguish these Six Doors of Sense from the other Six Doors of Sense that we normally possess in our mind stream.

Meaning the Six Doors of Sense, normal Doors of Sense. That's why they're called SKYE PA CHEN. They're called exceptional Doors of Sense.

I mean, there's a lot to think about there. It could have to do with hearing teachings, physical contact with teachings. Hearing them.

And here's an example. Please read... Did we finish this?

No, okay. Okay, has to... Oh, Earl, do some more.

NEPE RIG NYI RANG SHIN TU NEPE RIG TENI SHENG GI DRA TANG NANG GI TSUL SHIN IJE KI KEN TANG CHEDU TSUSAM GOM TSUN YI TEPAR WEZ CHEPE TEP CHEPE NUPA PHYUD CHEN TU SOGS MA NYID LAN SROG PA'I Nice. So, RGYAS PA'I RIG is as opposed to RANG BZHIN NAS RIG, right? The type of seeds that are involved with growing or furthering your natural tendency towards enlightenment.

Seeds which work in the immediate. And RANG BZHIN TU NEPE RIG, seeds which exist by nature since forever, okay? So, how do we define the seeds that cause the natural seeds to open?

How do we define them? Well, you start with the seeds that have been there forever, okay? And then you CHE, third line.

You bump into SHENG GI DRA. Yeah, sounds coming out of somebody else's mouth. And as far as yourself, within you, TSUL SHIN IJE.

You direct your mind attentively. Yeah, so there's outside words coming from the outside. And from the inside, you pay attention in class.

And when the natural seed meets with these conditions, meaning the outside condition of a person speaking and the inner condition of me thinking about what they say, then we can say that the seed which has always been there is being BTE PA by TSOS BSAM BSGOM.

[Speaker 3]
Red. Cultivated.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, and then Tsongkapa says, if you want to know what this unusual word BTE PA means, it means NUS PA THUG CHEN DU SONG. Given that mystical power, the potential. The NUS PA has become THUG.

Right, the potential has become imbued with the power? The NUS PA refers to RANG BZHIN MED RIG. Also the potential has then become...

Yeah, extremely powerful. So here NUS PA means your potential to become a Buddha, which has been inside of you forever, nobody planted it. If you meet up with these temporary factors, like a good teaching or something, then that seed which has been in you forever becomes THUG CHEN.

THUG CHEN means extremely powerful, extremely potent. THUG CHEN DU SONG BAR NYID LA SBYOG STE What we call RGYAS PA'I RIG, seeds that have short-term effect, is the whole process of learning and listening that affects the seeds you had by nature and starts to BTE PA those seeds. If you don't know what that word means, which nobody does, it doesn't exist anywhere.

It's THUG CHEN DU SONG. THUG CHEN DU SONG means has developed into something extremely powerful. So the listening to class has an unintended effect that the potential in you for enlightenment is being constantly strengthened incredibly, extraordinarily.

THUG CHEN DU SONG means beyond anything you can imagine. The seeds inside of you guys, by attending Mixed Nuts class and listening about these seeds, is doing things to you that you have no idea. And it is exploding the seed in you to become enlightened.

It's very beautiful. Okay, keep going. And HASSO.

Yeah. Chi? Yes.

Yay, HASSO. Give my HASSO. No, I mean, you add a little.

Hey, he's getting upset now. That's a good sign.

[Speaker 2]
It's subtle. It's subtle. Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Hey, that's my line, HASSO.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. Okay.

[Speaker 1]
So, DIN YI KA, meaning both kinds of rick. Okay, we've been calling it seed, but it's something deeper than that. You know.

Anyway, there's two kinds of seeds. NEPA, meaning which has lived in you forever. GYEPA, which is like going to class, which furthers the first seed.

They both live in where, word? Consciousness, right? Yeah, and that consciousness, which you now know from Stanley's class this morning, is a numbing.

Oh, right. Yeah. So, both of these kinds of seeds live in an entity which is already a karmic result.

And somehow we're going to mess with the karmic result. All right. They both live in your mind, maybe in your kye che druk, I would say.

Okay. And that SAK MEG GI SAG PA, okay? What's that mean?

That unstained seed is only SANG, DE PAR BY CHE BA DROT PA'I BAS THOS SAM GOM It's only expanded by the three. Yeah, and it's not SARDU SHAG PA. It's not freshly planted.

Yeah, so I think there's a big mistake here in this text, okay? This has to be yin. And I want you to check some carvings, okay?

Because it only makes sense if it's yin. Okay, I'll say it again. That stainless seed, which has been there forever, is only something, is only something which is strengthened by classroom time and is not sardu-planted by them, okay?

It's not freshly planted by them. Sumpe che, it's been stated, okay?

[Speaker 2]
But Geshe-la, it doesn't include the part about hearing the teacher's words and being attentive in your listening.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, it's too sung-gom here. Yeah, same thing.

[Speaker 2]
All right.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, okay. drupe rik chu nyik gi mi ne la A type of seed which has to be created, okay? Drupa, which has to be brought into existence, okay?

Drupe rik chu nyik gi mi ne It cannot live in you by your very nature since forever, okay? Seeds which are, seeds which are created, dru, and you can say it through practice if you want, they don't stay there chu nyik gi, okay? They don't stay in your mind by the very nature of things.

They are sardu rik jopa. But neither, and here's an interesting distinction, okay? Drupe rik, qualities you have developed, okay?

Or qualities you have brought into yourself, okay? They are not there by nature, but neither are we saying that anything has been planted totally freshly, okay? So we're not, min du means we're not saying that it's all completely new.

There is a foundation which has been there forever and it's being furthered, but we're not saying that it was freshly planted or something like that, okay? Cool. So when we talk about seeds as a result of practice, it's not even 100% fresh.

It also involves things which have been there since forever. Okay, cool. Please read, and Allison wants to check you.

DE LTAR YANG CHEN GYI PHANGS SU LAM NGE'I DAG NI PHRAD YANG NAM PA NYID DE Good. PHANGS GZHIN TU GNYIS PA THANG KHYEN GYI YANG DAG PAR LAM PA'O Thank you, Chiro. Good.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, so DUN SANG, which is a mind-only text that Tsongkhapa has been favoring greatly, and there's a doubt about who wrote it, right? SAB DANG NI DAG NI By the way, DAG NI here means an entity which has multiple parts. Okay?

So sometimes DAG NI can mean an entity with parts, okay? So the one entity called the seed has two... There are two components of these seeds, okay?

One is RANG GZHIN TU GNYIS PA They exist within you by the very nature of things. And those which are awakened by external factors, okay? Those which are perfectly awakened by external factors, okay?

So he's talking about the handshake between a permanent seed that was always there and then short-term seeds from going to class and meditating and stuff like that, okay? They work together. Cool?

CHE DRUNG BA'I PHYIR Okay? By the way, the Tenggyur version is slightly different. And I thought you might like to read it.

Can you read the big letters? Sure. SAB DANG NI DAG NI KYANG RANG GZHIN TU GNYIS PA DANG YANG DAG PAR GZHUGS PA DANG NAM PAR NYID DE Yeah, it's more clear, right?

This one entity called seed can be divided into its two components, which is RANG GZHIN TU GNYIS PA, staying inside the person since forever, and YANG DAG PAR GZHUGS PA, that which is accomplished or created. And those are the two types of seeds, okay? So he uses that word GZHUGS PA, accomplished, seeds which are accomplished, like listening, meditation, things like that, okay?

Okay. PHYIR GYUR DILA YANG DAG PAR GZHUGS PA'AM SKAD PA'AM KHYEN GYIS YANG DAG PAR LAM PA SHES BYA SHES NA Yeah, and somebody says, look, in this discussion of seeds which have been in you forever, and then trying to affect those seeds in a positive way, why do we say bring them about perfectly? Why do we say further those seeds, make them grow further?

Why do we say get them to rise up through short-term events, like going to a class? Okay, Khyen? Okay, why do you use these different words like create, further, and cause to rise?

Okay, why do you use these different expressions, somebody says, and here's the answer. Xiaoping, come on, criticize him. A word, say a couple of words wrong, okay?

Okay, I'll say three incorrect words. Okay, three. SHUNNIKI MEPE SABUNIPE MITU SAM KHOAMPE KHYEN GYIS NUPA TSUCHEN DU PHRO PA'AM GE PAR YOD PA'AM CHA PA'AM He's struggling to mispronounce a word, it's kind of funny, okay?

Kind of cute. CHU LE BRING LE CHEN PO YAY, DRING DRING LE CHEN PO LANG PA'I PHYIR RO Good, okay, good. SHUNNIKI MEPE SABUN That seed which is inside of you from the very nature of things, okay?

MITU SAM KHOAMPE KHYEN GYIS If you use the short-term events of going to class, thinking about what you heard, and then meditating on what you thought about, then that natural seed becomes TUCHEN DUPA. What's that mean, the word? What does that mean?

Imbued with mystical power. Yeah, or extraordinary power. Or you can say, GYE PAR BYED.

Or nurtured, or spread, or... Yeah, or fattened up. And what does that mean?

You can translate the rest here. From small... Yeah.

It's made middle. From middle, it's made big. That's all.

Yeah, that's all. A seed which was not so strong becomes medium-strong, and then medium-strong becomes very strong. That's the whole process being described here with the word GYE PAR, okay?

Keep going. And Tim wants to check you. Yay!

PHRAD NA SABUN PHRAD NI SHUN NI GYIS MED PA'I CHA NAS RANG BZHIN TU MED PA'I RIGS SU CHOG LA GYEN GYIS YANG DAG RANG PA'I CHA NAS MED PA'I RIGS SU CHOG KO CHOG KO, nice, okay. Now, this is a very, I don't know, he's coming to a very unusual place. DE NA, therefore, SABUN DE NI.

The very nature of seeds. Or, you know, if you read it the way it's usually read, you'd have to say, that one seed. Yeah, in my head, I was like, am I talking about, is it referring to the nature, me, or the very one we were just talking about?

Yeah, and I think what Tsongkhapa wants to, I think Tsongkhapa is coming to a conclusion where he wants to say something that we did not expect. He says, that one seed, CHA NAS means, from the point of view of... It's very nature.

Yeah, from the point of view that it has been with us by the very way of things, we can call it RANG BZHIN NI RIGS. We can call it spaying by its own nature or buddha nature. Yeah, and the LA is disjunctive.

But, CHA NAS, from the point of view that it is what? LANG PA, LANG PA, by Kiki. Has been perfectly taken up and by a condition.

Yeah, this LANG PA means like wakened, jacked up, or jacked up, or, you know, it's been pushed up in power. Okay, how do you say that? It's been...

LANG means either to get up off the bed, but this version, LANG, means your mom came and hit you with a stick and pushed you out of bed. Okay. Aroused.

Aroused. Yeah, aroused or something, okay? So, from the point of view that it has been, I don't know how to say that, pushed into being something by an external factor, temperate factor, like going to class, we can say it's a gibberish.

It's a seed involved with growth, as opposed to NI, as opposed to being, okay? So, this one seed has an aspect of being since forever, and it has an aspect of growth due to events, circumstances that you meet, like a teacher or things like that. Okay, cool.

And he seems to be saying it's really two sides of one coin. Okay, it's kind of sexy. Okay.

Okay, that seems to be where he has gone. Oops, what happened? Aiyah.

Okay.

[Speaker 2]
A couple minutes over, Geshe-la.

[Speaker 1]
Aiyah.

[Speaker 2]
I know.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, well, anyway, I lost our place anyway, so that's probably good. What was an unusual word there? De NI.

Saban de NI, right? That very seed, that one seed. Your cursor is right there.

Oh, your cursor was right there. Go back one. Go back one saban de NI.

Yeah. Yeah, good. Okay, good.

Okay, good. I don't know, a word has a bug in it nowadays where it jumps around a lot. Oh, stop here, five, 20, 20.

Okay, cool. Anyway, it's a very intriguing possibility that it's one seed with two sides to it. Okay, and we'll find out more in the exciting next class of Wordsmith.

Okay, see you guys soon. Anything to say, Nick? Not right now.

Take a two-minute break. I guess five minutes. Take a five-minute break.

Okay. Thank you. Dinner's here.

Thank you, Geshe-la. Thank you very much.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
Awesome.