Тим Ловенхопт — Книга 1: Совершенство мудрости, занятие 55

[Speaker 1]
Hi everybody, it's about that time. Stay relaxed. We've still got a couple of minutes, a very exciting program coming up for you.

Wow, we've got 500 plus online people and counting, I see hundreds of hearts, everybody is excited for Shwanzang's Tower. I hope you had a nice morning meditation with Peter, and I'll be back to lead one tomorrow morning. Oh, it looks like Tim's here and ready, so they're probably almost ready to start.

So I'll just announce today we have, for those of you who don't realize this, Geshe Michael and Geshe Michael is going to be joining us from Mexico City. Today we're doing class with Tim Lohenhaupt, and it looks like they're just about ready. I see Geshe Michael's computer, go for it.

All right. Nick, can you hear me? I can.

Can you hear me? I can hear you. Very nice.

Hola, Nick. Me escuchas? Si.

Si. All right. So I'm going to get started with the homework.

Okay. All right, cool. All right.

Are you ready? There it is. All right, here we go.

Am I up? Okay. So many of you were not in the last translation class of mine, and it was about two months ago.

And I'm going to try to give a short review of where we are in the text, so you can hopefully follow along. I'm having a hard time following along. And where we are in this text, we're in the middle of a debate.

And we're trying to figure out what it means when we have the word of a Buddha, and then let's pretend Bertha's on stage, and she's saying the same exact words. She's giving a class, and she repeats the words of the Buddha. So does that count as words of the Buddha?

If someone's repeating what somebody else says, does it mean it's the words of an enlightened being if they're coming from somebody else? And we'll talk about that a little bit later, because we don't know who Bertha is either. But in the context of this debate, so I have a question for you.

So question number one on the homework. We need microphones in the room. Or anybody online.

So if Bertha is on stage giving a class, and she quotes the words of an enlightened being, does that still count as words spoken by an enlightened being? Sure. And I have a bank account just got started.

It's just got full of $100 bills. So it's wonderful. I didn't even have money, and now I have money to give away.

All right. So this is the first homework question is, what do you think? If Bertha quotes the words of an enlightened being, do they still count as spoken by an enlightened being?

And you can speak in Spanish. No, it depends on what that person heard. And because those are the seeds of the person who heard the words of the enlightened being.

Well, that's not the answer we're looking for, but I think it deserves $100. No es la respuesta que queríamos, pero se merece $100. Let's try one more person.

I think it's basically about the interpretation. So in a sense, Michael, basically when he's transcripting all these older texts, trying to teach everyone and helping everyone, guiding them. So in some sense, you become the enlightened being by helping someone else.

I think it's related to interpretation. If, for example, Michael is trying to repeat these words to help another person be enlightened, can the words of an enlightened being be considered? I like that.

Let's give him $100.

[Speaker 2]
I like that. Another $100.

[Speaker 1]
We'll move on to question two. We'll save some money for a little bit later. No, but it's an interesting question, right?

Let's move on to the second question. But yes, it's a very interesting question, right? You know, if someone says, you know, any great spiritual being or any high person says something, says truth.

And here's Tim on stage repeating those words. Do they hold the same weight? Are they the same or are they different?

And it's actually really important for us to think about this. Because this book was, was it written by an enlightened being or not? Because it was written down by Master Asanga.

And he received the teachings from, from Maitreya. And is Maitreya a Bodhisattva when he teaches him or is Maitreya a Buddha when he teaches him? And that's actually a debate coming up very soon.

And then if Master Asanga is repeating those words, are they the words of an enlightened being? If he's the Buddha. Okay.

You can think about it. All right, question two. So, in the debate right before we're going to get started in about five minutes, that he's, that the debater says, if the words of a Buddha are extracted from the Perfection of Wisdom Sutras, and being commented on by Master Haribhadra, which is, we're studying a commentary on Master Haribhadra's commentary to the Abhisamaya Ankara.

So, the debater says, when he does that, then those words are no longer the Perfection of Wisdom. And then our response to the debater in Tibetan is, What does that mean, word? Can we get a microphone over to him?

Yes. In general, makyap means not necessarily the case. In general, significa no necesariamente el caso.

Estoy de acuerdo con la razón, pero no el porqué que usaste esa razón. Y en este caso, en especifico, quiere decir, solo porque el Maestro Haribhadra escribió esas palabras, no significa que no sean las palabras de un ser iluminado. Right, exactly.

Thank you. Gracias. And, word, I think I just gave you $100 yesterday, so.

Word, creo que ya te di $100 ayer. You can give him $100. Pero le podemos dar otro $100.

Okay. This question is worth $100. So I was imagining myself doing this debate.

And I thought, you know, I think there's an easy way to defeat this debater's position. Because the debater is saying, look, you're quoting the words of a Buddha. They can't be the words of the Buddha anymore because it's not the Buddha speaking.

So, but then the question is, the sutras themselves. What if we were to ask about the sutras themselves that are written down? Is there a problem?

Is there a problem with the debater's starting position? And you have to tell me the Sanskrit to get the $100, Maria. Maybe.

The sutras themselves were written by the students of the Buddha who heard the Buddha's teachings. So the Buddha himself did not write the sutras. And so what is the Sanskrit?

At the beginning of every sutra. Can someone help her? Eva Mayamshita.

I don't know the Sanskrit, but it starts with $100, I heard. Give her the $100. So the debater is already blowing up their own argument because the sutras that the debater is quoting were written down by students and they weren't spoken by the Buddha in that sense.

So the debater is beating their own argument from the beginning because he is quoting the sutras that start with, once I heard this. Next week I will ask you again the pronunciation of the Sanskrit. Three words from the West Chinese language.

First one, and someone online can do it. Can someone put my text up? There we go.

First word, it can be anyone online too. First word, you can say it here or online. Roxana in the back.

Drakpa is to pull out. And in this case, why would it be that in this case?

[Speaker 2]
It was referring to extracting the text from the sutras.

[Speaker 1]
Exactly, good job. Drakpa means to extract, and in this context it is to extract the words of the sutra. Second word.

Second word. It literally means main words, but I think it refers to the words of the sutra. It can be both, yes.

It could be both, in this case it is textual words or scriptures. And the last one, Drakpa did so. The meaning of the commentary?

Literally, yes. But what is it referring to? Is that Tin?

Yes, it's me, teacher. Yes, so yes, but what is it referring to? That's clarifying the meaning of the commentary of Master Hari Bhadra on the perfection of wisdom.

Yes, and for $100 I'll give you, if you can tell me the full name of that commentary in Sanskrit. Sorry, I cannot. The meaning is the meaning itself, but it refers specifically to the commentary of Master Hari Bhadra, and now he offered $100 more for the Tibetan.

No, I said Sanskrit. Ah, Sanskrit, sorry. Here is the Tibetan.

Atin, in line. Does anyone want to try a word? It's too hard.

It's up there. Okay, all right, we'll do it another day then. All right.

Luego. All right, here we go. This is my test translation.

Hey Tin, please read the Tibetan. By the way, one comment. Why does Grandpa force you to come to these classes?

You cannot understand everything. But it's to put seeds in your mind, and after one year or ten years, the meaning will cook in your mind and you will understand everything. If you only go to class for things you already understand, you don't put seeds for future growth.

These translation classes are meant to give you seeds for future understanding. And I can tell you personally, your mind will blow up, expand. So be patient.

It's not a western university class. It's an Asian style. You don't understand half, but you plant the seeds to understand.

It's a different style of education, and it's very powerful. It's very powerful. So be patient.

And listen. And if you don't understand anything, that's perfect. Tin, read.

All right, cool. Can we keep my text on the screen the whole time? Thank you.

Good. Let's look at the translation. If this were not the case, let's try another example.

And consider the following sentence. words which are quoted by Master Haribhadra in this commentary. I think I'm allergic to Tim.

I mean, okay. The multitude of worlds come from karma. And karma is any movement of the mind.

And that which it motivates. Okay, the translation is perfect. So Tim did the translation this last week or something.

Last night. The big question is, Tim, where does this quotation come from? Well, in this text.

For a hundred dollars next lifetime. Well, it's Master Haribhadra's commentary from the Abhidharmakosha. Yeah.

Fourth chapter, first lines. Thanks, Tim. Master Haribhadra is quoting Master Vasubandhu.

And this is the most famous four lines about the meaning of karma in the whole world. This is the most famous definition of karma. In 300,000 books, this is the most famous explanation of karma.

Anytime your mind moves, this much. Okay, I'll do it again. That's karma.

That's the definition of karma. Okay? And then, if you think of something and then you say something or you do something, what you say and what you do is secondary karma, not primary karma.

That's why meditation is the most powerful karma. It's all primary karma inside the mind. So, when Master Haribhadra, who lived about a thousand years ago, when he quotes Master Vasubandhu, who lived 2,000 years ago, who spoke those words?

That's the question. Let's go. Do you want to comment on that here?

Because it looks like you just quoted the first line, but the second line is not. Yeah. Now, in our translation team, when the author quotes somebody else, we have a rule inside the translation team.

You have to use John Brady's ... it's an AI. It's an AI that we invented 37 years ago.

And it's very powerful and it's very advanced 37 years ago. It's the same as modern AI. And somebody says that this guy quoted somebody.

We tell our AI, you go check if he really quoted or he didn't quote. That's a rule of our translation team. In 37 years, we input 80 million words of ancient books.

80 million words. It cost about 15 million dollars. And it's free online.

Anybody can use it. Okay, and what Tim said, the quotation is not exactly what the guy said it was. He only started the quotation, he didn't finish it.

But it doesn't change the meaning, so it's okay. Okay, so I do have a question. It seems to me that where we are in the text, that this is us talking back to the debater.

I don't know yet. That's what I think, but I'm not sure. Who's talking, we don't know sometimes.

Then we have to guess after they finish talking. All right, go ahead. Would someone like to read this next line?

Up or down? Down. Yeah.

Okay. Are you saying that the quoted words in Master Haribhadra are in the Abhidharmakosha? Good, okay.

The word shun, which we had earlier today, it means, in this case, it just means text. Classical text. Okay.

Next line, Lindsay. So when Vasubandhu is quoted by another guy, is that the words of Vasubandhu? Here's the answer.

Why would you say that? Who's going to read that one? Right here, Lindsay.

Okay, Lindsay, yeah. Nice, good job. We said, when the definition of karma is quoted in another book, and the definition comes from Abhidharma, is that Abhidharma inside another book or not?

And we say, because it was quoted from Abhidharma. And here's the answer. LAM PA RDZUGS KYI LAS CHAMS PA'I GZHAN ZHIG YIN PA'I PHYIR After all, it was quoted from the Abhidharma, therefore it is Abhidharma.

But the important thing is that, in a sneaky way, he's planting the definition of karma in your mind over and over again. It's not really a debate about books. He's tricking you.

He keeps repeating the definition of karma. Okay, cool. All right.

Khyapa Khe? If we think this, if this is the, the debater says, okay, fine, I agree with you. Maybe?

Just as a standard, it always means you, you agreed to the Khyapa. You agreed that, you already agreed. If it was quoted from Abhidharma, it is Abhidharma.

That's all. So this is us saying it to him. We're saying it to him, probably.

This, this construction is always, you already agreed. Okay. Venerable Khyapa, can you read the next line please?

But here's the context, okay? I agree that if you quote Abhidharma in another book, it is Abhidharma, okay? So you're telling me that in case there's a towel at the end?

I'm not telling you. Just read, do you know? Do you know?

So you agreed that if a book was, if Abhidharma was quoted in this Haribhadra's book, then it's still Abhidharma, right? Okay? If it's quoted in Haribhadra's book, it's still Abhidharma.

Then we say, oh, well then Haribhadra's book, well then you agree, are you saying that Master Haribhadra's commentary is a classical commentary of the lower way? If you quote the lower way in a higher way commentary, does that stay lower way or does it graduate to higher way? Lower way basically means you don't teach compassion for all beings.

Higher way means you do teach compassion for all living beings. The guy who wrote this book, Master Haribhadra, is higher way, he does teach compassion for all beings. But inside his book he quotes lower way.

Now, is that quotation higher way or lower way? It's interesting, if higher way person uses lower way quotation for higher way purposes, does that quotation become higher way? So we asked him, we are being sarcastic.

Oh, I guess Haribhadra is lower way. Why do you say that? He just said a lower way thing.

Yeah, but next line. DER MI NUS TE I'm thinking about Chun Tzun. Can you do this Tibetan with a Brooklyn accent please?

Sure, sure. DER MI NUS TE THEG CHEN GYI DANG PHYIR GYIN PA'I PHYIR Is Haribhadra, is his book a lower way book now? Because he's quoting lower way.

Then DER MI NUS TE You can't agree. Because his classical commentary is higher way. So Tim translated it correctly.

All right, next line. DER TAO Going up or down? Is it a TAO or is it TAO?

TAO, it's a TAO. Yes. DER TAO DER PHAG DANG ZER GYI TSUNG SHUNG TSING TSIG GYIN PA'I PHYIR Yeah, good.

We don't have a good copy of this book. All the copies were burned in the late 1950s. One million libraries were burned.

And we found one copy, it's not too good. Handwritten. So we have to fix it as we go.

We couldn't find the original copy yet. We found one, but we are fighting to get a copy of the copy. But that's a war zone right now.

So that's John Brady's problem. Okay, all right. What's next Tim?

Oh, DER TAO? Yeah. It is too a commentary.

Okay, Haribhadra did write a commentary to Haraway because... Actually, he was Haraway's school. He belonged to Haraway's school.

For a hundred dollars. Which Haraway's school?

[Speaker 2]
Exactly.

[Speaker 1]
That he is and what he's commenting on. Him. And she's supposed to be from the Lower Middle Way.

Hundred dollars. Wow, Anatole, you want another hundred dollars? So the highest school, which is called Middle Way, it has two parts.

And we call Higher Middle Way and Lower Middle Way. Generally, Haribhadra's school is Lower Middle Way. Anatole, what's the difference between Higher Middle Way and Lower Middle Way?

What's one thing that separates them? There are several choices. The Lower Middle Way believes that a statement can have an independent logic to it, like words can have power from their own side.

And the Higher Middle Way, they favor a type of reasoning that uses sarcasm. Absurd concept. Okay, hundred dollars.

I'll give you an example, okay? Higher Middle Way, Heart Sutra, your eyes not there, your ears not there, your nose is not there, your tongue is not there. They, in the Heart Sutra, Lord Buddha doesn't say, your eyes not really there, your ears not really there, he doesn't say really there.

Then Lower Middle Way, you shouldn't say really, because nobody can say the eye is not there. The Heart Sutra needs correcting. It should say really there.

Then our answer, Higher Middle Way, does the pen come from its own side, or does the pen come from me? From me. The pen doesn't come really from its own side.

Higher Middle Way doesn't like the word really. Now listen, because the Lower Middle Way, they think the word really, really exists. Okay?

If it really exists, then it's, and it means not Middle Way. You don't have to say you don't really have an eye in the Heart Sutra, because the word really and pens don't come this way. Okay?

Got it? Really doesn't really exist. Okay?

It comes from you. That's the difference between the two high schools. Yeah, cool.

Is that Mila or who's that? Okay, next. You ready?

Yeah, I'll just say kor sum. Kor sum. Yeah, kor sum means, kor means circle, sum means the dog ran around in three circles.

Kor means circle, and kor sum means the dog ran around in circles three times. Basically, you said you should say really, and then later you said you shouldn't say really. And this is the biggest insult in a Geshe debate.

You are chasing your own tail. You said no, and now you say yes. All right, now let's go to the real world.

We have a Monday. Okay, so the book we're studying, the root text, is 75 pages long. It takes 45 minutes to recite.

It's the first part of the Geshe course. It takes 12 years to finish 75 pages. And so Tim's translation, if he goes on schedule, it will take 50 years.

All right, and he's translating a very famous commentary. It has eight books, and each book has very famous parts. And each part has its own nickname in the Geshe course.

And when you do your Geshe exam, the debate master will give you an assignment. You're going to debate this topic, or you're going to debate this topic. So, after two, three years of work, how long you going?

After three and a half years, we reached a new section. Just now. Okay?

so when you, about four years before you take Geshe exam, you have to take the pre-Geshe exam. To qualify for the Geshe exam, you have to take another exam. Only about five or six monks every year will get permission to start the Geshe exam study.

And the permission is written on a small piece of paper. And the debate master will come to the debate ground, and he has like four or six pieces of paper in his hand. Tiny.

If you get one, you're allowed to take the Geshe exam. If you don't get one, you can stay in the Geshe program, but you will not get a Geshe degree. So, on the day that the debate master comes with the paper, everybody knows it's today.

And at that moment, he's supposed to be a tantric deity. He is Vajrayogini. Then you're not supposed to look at him.

You're supposed to pretend he's not there. It's a very tense moment after 20 years of studying. It's like, you know, he goes to ...

it's like this, he goes to Tim and gives it to Flavia. And Tim's like 20 years of his life just finished. And you're supposed to examine your mental afflictions.

So, I was there, you know, and he's like, then he gave it to me, you know, and I'm like, and my assignment is the text that starts right now. Okay, so it's good luck. You are here yesterday, you are here today, you have some good luck.

This, this part is called JAM ZHUNG. Say JAM ZHUNG. JAM means Maitreya.

ZHUNG means his part. And this is a very powerful, it's the most powerful and important debate in 12 years. Is the coming Buddha a Buddha or not?

Is the book he wrote a sutra or not? This is the debate. And really this is a debate about Diamond Way.

It's the only Diamond Way debate that you study before you study Diamond Way. So, it's an honor to be in the room right now. And you are hearing maybe the deepest debate in all the 300,000 books.

And it starts now. Okay, Tim, who's going to read? Juan, I'm sorry.

Juan Valdez. Oh, good luck. PAK PA.

PAK PA JAM PA RANG NYID PAK PA JAM PA RANG NYID DAM PAS CHUG PA DANG RAB TUG PA SO SO RANG RIGS PA'I DE BZHED ZHES SOGS KYIS RGA BU GZUGS RGA BU GZUGS Very nice. We have 12 translators. It's all I can handle.

I cannot handle more. I don't have time. Each one has finished their first book already.

But if one of them die, Haza would be a good substitute. Okay. So, Tim, PAK PA.

Realized one or Arya? Yeah. When do we stop?

We stop at 10 minutes. 10? Okay.

In 10 minutes we will stop the class. And we will have a 15 minute discussion. Open discussion.

Led by Tim. How can you use today's class in your real life? So, that's 10 minutes from now.

You have 10 minutes to think about. Okay. Chamba?

Maitreya. Yeah, good. Rangni?

Himself. Maitreya he saw himself. Chepa.

What's Chepa like? His activities. Yeah, activities.

What's Dampa mean? His holy activities. Yeah, the activities of good people.

Dantungpa. It's an idiom. Rakthitampa.

He taught it profoundly. Super taught it. Then in this quotation they say, Yeshe means the wisdom, the individual wisdom.

Yeah, now, Rangnik in my school means one thing, but here it means something else. The wisdom of self-knowledge. That's a quotation from Haribhadra.

Okay, he says, so we're going to study that part written by Haribhadra. My microphone's feeding back a bit, guys. In the back, Brian.

My microphone is the one that's feeding back. Who's going to read the next thing? Where's Oscar?

Can we have him read it? Oscar Valera. He's in the back.

Do you have a microphone? It also wakes up all the people in the audience. Yes.

Nice, very nice. He's also Ken Roxanne and those two would be nice translators. Lord Maitreya.

Sorry. Lord Maitreya. The Classical Commentary.

He composed the Classical Commentary at the Jewish organization. By the way, when you say Classical Commentary, ready Rob? You are saying not what?

A hundred dollars. When you say Classical Commentary, you are saying not something else. When you say Classical Commentary, you are not saying anything else.

Not the words of the Buddha. Or in Sanskrit. No, I don't know.

What's the opposite of a book made by a human? Yes, sutra. Yay, okay.

So, he's emphasizing the word shastra, sutra. Not a sutra, shastra. Are the people who write shastras, are they buddhas or are they not buddhas?

Supposed to be not buddhas. If they're buddhas and they wrote a book, it's called a sutra. If they're not buddhas and they write a book, it's called a commentary.

Already we called Maitreya the writer of a commentary. Okay? Which means he's not a buddha.

Okay, he wrote LUN TOG LDAN, The Jewel of Realization. He wrote a book which the Geshe spends twelve years. Half the Geshe course is one book.

SOM PA means he composed it. At the TOG MA, at the beginning of that book, he praises the three khyenpas, the three knowledges. This is a big topic of Maitreya's.

It's called the three kinds of knowledge. He repeats. Repeat.

ZHI ZHES LAM ZHES RNAMS KYEN GSUM ZHI ZHES LAM ZHES RNAMS KYEN GSUM This is the famous topic of first twelve years of the Geshe course. And since there's three knowledges, and since it's the last thing we're going to talk about, I think Tim, we should give $300. If someone can tell me, so this is the whole subject of the commentary.

ZHI ZHES LAM ZHES RNAMS KYEN What are those three in English or Spanish? For $300. Except Shushumna's dad.

It's here, it's on the screen. On your arse, it's not there. GA'O ZHIG GI DU ZHIG ZHAG DANG ZHIG ZHAG ZHIG BA MA LAM ZHAG DANG ZHIG ZHAG ZHIG RAN LAK NA MA NAM MA'O KYA YAD KA KYA DANG KEN NA KEN That's in Spanish.

Okay, so ZHI ZHES means the basic knowledge and perception of selflessness, and LAM ZHES means the path knowledge, which is the perception of emptiness, and then RNAMS KYEN SANG is the knowledge of all things. It's like the Buddha's state of mind. $300.

Let me do mine. Okay, basically, the foundation knowledge, ZHI ZHES, is the direct perception of emptiness by a non-Bodhisattva, by a non-Bodhisattva. LAM ZHES path knowledge direct perception of emptiness by a Bodhisattva.

RNAMS KYEN Mr. Know-it-all who knows everything in the universe. These are the three topics of this important twelve years of study. How can you touch the diamond world without bodhichitta?

Second, how do you touch it with bodhichitta? And third, how do you become a Buddha? These are called the three knowledges.

At the beginning of his commentary, Maitreya praises the ... those are so cool, those three are so cool. He does it for a purpose.

RANG DON and GZHAN DON For the purposes of self and for others. At the beginning of his famous book, Maitreya talks about three kinds of knowledge to help himself and to help other people. So, when you say help himself, for a hundred dollars, what's the implication?

The answer is no, it's in the yellow shirt. Yellow shirt, yellow shirt. Marisol.

Because if you plant the seed in someone else, automatically you are helping yourself. That's true, but not quite the answer. This whole debate is, what is the debate?

We are starting a one year debate. We are debating whether Maitreya is ... is the future Buddha of Buddha.

Okay? Now here there's a clue of our ... of his opinion.

There's a clue. What? What's the clue?

$100. If he needs to pay himself. In this commentary, the clue is that by implication he's not a Buddha because he's talking about helping himself and also because he's saying this commentary.

Yeah, good. If the guy ... if our writer said, Maitreya wrote this book for self-help and other help, that implies he thinks Maitreya is not a Buddha yet.

So so far, the future Buddha ain't a Buddha. But we're going to fight about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's an important ... it's the ultimate important conversation in Diamond Lake. Was your mom a Buddha when she did ...

when she decided to give birth to you? Was she a Buddha? But how do we decide?

Stay for one year, you will learn. Okay, Tim, your conversation. Grandpa's going to go sit down.

What do you all think? I have some ideas, but I think it'd be more fun if someone here has an idea of how we ... what we learned today.

How would you apply this when you leave the room? When you walk out, I'm sorry. What are you going to take from this when you go out and someone irritates you, or something like that?

No one ever irritates Lucia. But how would you live with ... how would you live these ideas?

Lindsay, over here to Lucia. Hi, thank you. At this moment, at the end of this class, this puts the possibility in front of me that I can be a Because here Maitreya is saying that he's going to help others to help himself, and so we are learning here how to become a Buddha.

So I'm going to take this and keep it in my mind when I leave this room. Cool, I'd like that. You can choose, Lindsay.

And we've been taught that ultimately the only way we can really help people is as a Buddha. So this class is reminding us to logically also strive for that, for mastering those three bodies of wisdom. But to also remember to do what we learned in the last course, which was also logically proven, to question, you know, is Lindsay a Buddha, or is, you know, she could be.

Logically, she could not be. And how important that query is in our practice, in our lives. When somebody is yelling at me, it's really questioning if those words that are coming from that person are really intrinsically in that person.

And remember what we have learned, and think that maybe they are an angel or a Buddha helping me to become like them. I have a question for you. That Buddha who's helping you, where are they coming from?

It's from me. So is there a Buddha out there who's helping you? Created by me.

It's not, but it's yes for me. No, but yes for me. Okay.

Like when you say no, what do you mean by no?

[Speaker 2]
It does exist because I created it.

[Speaker 1]
Right, so if someone else was sitting next to you, who would they see? Is it a Buddha for them? No, maybe yes, maybe not.

I don't know. I'm going to keep asking questions. You're good at this.

No, no, no, no, keep the microphone up. What would be the implication of that when it comes to conflict in the world? The conflict that exists or that I see in the world for me is one thing, but for other people, it's something different.

So I would take it to the kitchen. How many people have had an uncomfortable conversation with their partner in the kitchen when you're talking about something that happened last week? Honey, you didn't do that thing.

You didn't tell me to do that thing. Yes, I did. You certainly didn't.

No, I'm sure that I told you to take out the trash. I thought you said put it in the trash. Who's right?

What happens in that conversation is those people think they're correct. And the other person is wrong. And so then you're fighting about something that's impossible.

One person is right, and the other person is right. They had valid experiences, and now you're fighting about something that you had two very different perceptions of. And we had a thing earlier today.

All of a sudden, I found out I have to give another presentation in 15 minutes. Like, no one told me. They're like, yeah, you were in the meeting, Tim.

And I said, ma quiapa. And I said, ma quiapa. Just because I was in the meeting doesn't mean I agreed to give the presentation.

And then it was like, huh. Then all of a sudden, the pressure lifted. Maybe I said yes, maybe I said no.

But we're here today that I have a presentation in 15 minutes. No problem. But I think it's that if we can recognize that each of us is having a unique experience right now.

And if we attempt to understand, like, how many perceptions are in the room right now? Pachi, this is my opportunity to rejoice how many people are here. Make up a good number.

Yes, aqui. Just exaggerate. 200.

300. Okay, there's 300 people here today. And 742 online.

Plus 150 in our hybrid event live in Malaysia. How many perceptions are happening right now? And how many are the same and how many are different?

Are we all going to agree that I wore a red tie? Vamos a estar todos de acuerdo que usé una corbata roja? Someone might have a fight about that later.

No, he wore a blue tie. I saw blue. No, I saw red.

The foundations of, I think, all conflict comes from that. And I think if we could recognize that it might reduce, it reduces tensions and might, I think, in the source of reducing, of taking away all conflict, actually. All right, and now for the next part of our show.

Dr. Juan Hasso. Thank you. Good morning.

[Speaker 2]
Monique is going to help me translate. So, context.

[Speaker 1]
Every week, Geshe Michael gets together with us to teach us about these books on ancient wisdom.

[Speaker 2]
And the best thing about it, you don't have to pay anything.

[Speaker 1]
It's free every week. You only have to log into your computer or come live to wherever we are.

[Speaker 2]
As you know, there are currently 750 people watching online. It's not only the people that are currently here. We have 200 people here live, in addition to the 750 online.

[Speaker 1]
These classes are being translated into nine languages, approximately.

[Speaker 2]
We have a very solid Spanish translation team. We are like 12 or 15 people involved in the project. And I would like to welcome all of those participating in the Spanish translations to please come to the stage.

[Speaker 1]
Rosalía also helps us sometimes to coordinate translations. Berta. It's a very big effort.

[Speaker 2]
Monica as well.

[Speaker 1]
What we do is that each one of them, she follows closely a class and a translator.

[Speaker 2]
So, for example, Oscar is always translating Ben Kramer.

[Speaker 1]
Aldo is always translating Nick. Berta is always translating Sugen. And Alexa does Tim.

But Flavia used to do that before. Each one of them does a different translator. And the plan that we have, después de cada una de las clases, ellos mandan un video de dos o tres minutos, resumiendo, summarizing, la sesión.

Y lo subimos a redes sociales.

[Speaker 2]
And we upload it to social networks.

[Speaker 1]
Entonces, pueden seguir las clases siguiendo los códigos QR.

[Speaker 2]
You can follow the classes by scanning the QR codes. You can log in into the translation classes every week. You can see the content on Instagram.

[Speaker 1]
Nick Lachaud, que le decía un maestro de él.

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And just like Nick Lachaud told me that a teacher of his told him, he said that his teacher grabbed him and told him, you don't understand, I'm giving you gold. I believe Geshe Michael every week is giving us gold. So don't miss it.

Thank you. And thank you all of the translators who make this possible, including Gina and Francisco at the tech table.

[Speaker 1]
Brian también, que está ahí escondido.

[Speaker 2]
And Brian as well, who is hiding.

[Speaker 1]
También es traductor y tech table.

[Speaker 2]
He's also a translator and part of the tech table.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, mencionar que todo lo que se traduce en estas clases...

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I want to mention that everything that is translated in these classes...

[Speaker 1]
Se imprime y se publica en libros.

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It's printed and published in books.

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Tenemos un club de lectura internacional.

[Speaker 2]
We have an international book club.

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En la que distribuimos todos esos libros para que puedan acceder a esta sabiduría.

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In which we distribute all of these books so that you can access this wisdom.

[Speaker 1]
Si te inscribes a este club de lectura.

[Speaker 2]
If you subscribe to this book club.

[Speaker 1]
Lindsey, que está ahí, por favor, saluda.

[Speaker 2]
Lindsey, who is over there, please say hi.

[Speaker 1]
Otras personas, coordinadoras de Latinoamérica.

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And other coordinators from Latin America.

[Speaker 1]
Se van a encargar de mandarte libros.

[Speaker 2]
We'll make sure to send you the books.

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Para que puedas leerlos.

[Speaker 2]
So that you can read them.

[Speaker 1]
Para que puedas descansar en la noche. So that you can rest at night. Para que puedas sembrar las semillas.

So that you can plant the seeds. De hacer tus sueños realidad. And make your dreams come true.

Okay, entonces puedes inscribirte ahí.

[Speaker 2]
So you can subscribe there.

[Speaker 1]
Puedes elegir el idioma que quieras.

[Speaker 2]
You can choose whatever language.

[Speaker 1]
Sí, inglés, español y un montón más.

[Speaker 2]
Spanish and several more.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, esto es lo que hacemos cada semana. Los lunes en la tarde y los sábados en la mañana.

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This is what we do every week. Monday evenings and Saturday mornings.

[Speaker 1]
Muchas gracias, Geshe Michael.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you very much, Geshe Michael.

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Por toda la bondad de enseñarnos.

[Speaker 2]
For having the compassion to teach us.

[Speaker 1]
And the kindness.

[Speaker 2]
And the kindness.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, y cada semana igual.

[Speaker 2]
And every week as well.

[Speaker 1]
Tenemos un segmento de noticias.

[Speaker 2]
We have a segment, a news segment.

[Speaker 1]
Sí, se llama Peachtree World News. It's called Peachtree World News. Y ahí compartimos todo tipo de noticias que están pasando alrededor de la World View Network.

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And that's where we share all of the news that are happening around the World View Network.

[Speaker 1]
La World View Network son todas las 42, 43 organizaciones.

[Speaker 2]
The World View Network is comprised of the 42, 43 organizations.

[Speaker 1]
Sí, que han sido fundadas por Geshe Michael Roach.

[Speaker 2]
That have been founded by Geshe Michael Roach.

[Speaker 1]
Sí, y están haciendo una gran labor por todo el mundo.

[Speaker 2]
And they're doing an amazing job all over the world.

[Speaker 1]
Si quieres enterarte de clases, retiros, programas, eventos.

[Speaker 2]
If you want to find out about classes, retreats, events, programs.

[Speaker 1]
O si quieres conocer más sobre cada uno de los organizadores, maestros, productores.

[Speaker 2]
Or if you want to learn a little bit more about the organizers, the producers, or the teachers.

[Speaker 1]
Lo que tratamos de hacer es acercar todo ese contenido a ustedes en este programa.

[Speaker 2]
What we try to do is to bring all of this content in this program.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, entonces hoy no es la excepción.

[Speaker 2]
Today is not the exception.

[Speaker 1]
Quiero que conozcan. Okay, estamos en un evento de Five Houses.

[Speaker 2]
We are at a Five Houses event.

[Speaker 1]
Y así como eventos de Five Houses, hay muchos otros eventos que comparten sabiduría antigua.

[Speaker 2]
And just like the Five Houses events, there are other multiple events that also share the wisdom.

[Speaker 1]
Quiero presentarles hoy a una más de las organizaciones.

[Speaker 2]
To one of the other organizations.

[Speaker 1]
Que se llama Yoga Studies Institute.

[Speaker 2]
Which is called Yoga Studies Institute.

[Speaker 1]
Para eso quiero invitar a dos de los organizadores.

[Speaker 2]
For that, I want to invite two of the organizers, the Mexican organizers.

[Speaker 1]
Sofía.

[Speaker 2]
Sofía.

[Speaker 1]
Y. And. Alex Rivas.

Alex Rivas. Junto con el director. Of course, don't worry.

[Speaker 2]
In addition to the director.

[Speaker 1]
Errol Bernie.

[Speaker 2]
Errol Bernie.

[Speaker 1]
Muchas gracias.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
Siéntense.

[Speaker 2]
Please sit down.

[Speaker 1]
Take a seat. You as well. Okay.

So. I was telling. Ah, no, perdón.

Español. Le estaba hablando con todos ustedes.

[Speaker 2]
I was talking with all of them.

[Speaker 1]
Y. Muchas de las personas pudieran, tal vez, no conocer a YSI.

[Speaker 2]
And many of the people here today might not know about YSI.

[Speaker 1]
Y no saber nada de lo que hace.

[Speaker 2]
And not know anything about what it does. Pudieran presentarse brevemente. Could you please briefly introduce yourselves?

What are your goals? Sus sueños. Your dreams.

Sus problemas internos. Your internal issues.

[Speaker 1]
Los escándalos entre los estudiantes.

[Speaker 2]
Scandals between the students.

[Speaker 1]
Broma, broma.

[Speaker 2]
Joking.

[Speaker 1]
I only got five minutes.

[Speaker 2]
Solo tengo cinco minutos.

[Speaker 1]
It's so great to be back in Mexico.

[Speaker 2]
Es maravilloso estar de regreso en México.

[Speaker 1]
The first YSI event was in Mexico. One of the first.

[Speaker 2]
Uno de los primeros eventos de YSI fue en México.

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In San Pancho.

[Speaker 2]
En San Pancho.

[Speaker 1]
And I used to come here once a year and it's been a long time.

[Speaker 2]
Y solía venir aquí una vez al año y ha pasado mucho tiempo.

[Speaker 1]
So it's great to see so many friends again from Mexico.

[Speaker 2]
Entonces es maravilloso ver a tantos amigos de México otra vez.

[Speaker 1]
This time most of them have kids.

[Speaker 2]
Ahora casi todos tienen hijos.

[Speaker 1]
But please come and say hi. It's really great to see you again and I love you so much.

[Speaker 2]
Pero por favor vengan a saludarme. Me da mucho gusto verlos a todos y los quiero mucho.

[Speaker 1]
Sophie and I are part of YSI.

[Speaker 2]
Sorry?

[Speaker 1]
We're part of YSI.

[Speaker 2]
Somos partes de YSI.

[Speaker 1]
What is YSI?

[Speaker 2]
¿Qué es YSI?

[Speaker 1]
We have some pictures. So if you can just show the pictures and then we'll talk.

[Speaker 2]
Tenemos algunas imágenes. Así que si pueden mostrar las imágenes y yo voy a hablar.

[Speaker 1]
In simplest terms, YSI teaches yoga.

[Speaker 2]
En términos simples, YSI es yoga.

[Speaker 1]
First time I did yoga.

[Speaker 2]
La primera vez que yo hice yoga.

[Speaker 1]
Was at a Geshe Michael event.

[Speaker 2]
Fue en un evento de Geshe Michael.

[Speaker 1]
I've never seen a yoga mat before.

[Speaker 2]
Nunca había visto un mat de yoga antes.

[Speaker 1]
People were chanting Sanskrit. La gente estaba cantando en sánscrito. Rolling around on these mats in the desert.

Había todos estos mats en el desierto. I thought it was so weird.

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Y yo pensé que era rarísimo.

[Speaker 1]
But I was fascinated. Pero me fascinó. And I've spent 30 years studying it.

[Speaker 2]
Y he pasado 30 años estudiándolo.

[Speaker 1]
And 30 years trying to live the life. Y 30 años tratando de vivir la vida. Y 30 años tratando de vivir la vida.

And to me, I've really tried to embody what that means. What yoga means as a lifestyle. Y yo trato realmente de representar lo que eso significa.

Lo que el yoga significa como un estilo de vida. So someone that's established really clear core values. And really grounded in ethics.

Y algo de ello es establecer realmente valores muy sólidos.

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Esas bases éticas.

[Speaker 1]
Someone that uses the practices of hatha yoga to straighten out the prana in the body. Including the breathing practices. Someone that tries to control their senses and control their emotions.

And someone that tries to control their mind. In meditation. So if you know yoga, then you would have recognized that's the eight limbs.

That's the eight parts of yoga. And then we try to infuse those eight parts with as much love and compassion as we can. And with as much wisdom as we can.

And that's the ninth part.

[Speaker 2]
Y eso es la novena parte.

[Speaker 1]
And so we like to think that we've improved on the Ashtanga eight parts of yoga. By really emphasizing the necessity of compassion and wisdom. So that's, oh, and so, so YSI, what we do is we have a complete path to mastery.

So you can enter at a very beginning stage or as an intermediate stage or whatever, but there's a complete path ahead of you. It's really like the A to Z of a spiritual path through the eyes of yoga. So that's who we are.

That's what we do. And here's a few of the courses that are coming up.

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Please come to these courses. You've been getting super powerful intellectual knowledge here. A direct transmission from an unbroken lineage from Geshe Michael Roach and beyond.

And in YSI, you will learn how to prepare your body and mind in a more subtle way. So these seeds that you're planting here, right then, very powerful. So we have a promo event.

It's free for a course that is coming with Earl Bernie and Nicole Slack in Inner Fundamentals. Don't miss it next Saturday. We have a contemplation meditation relay with the best worldview teachers leading 30-minute sessions of meditation.

And you are welcome to come. That's where you can register. It's going to be translated in different languages.

And this is to honor 50 years of classics of teachings with our beloved teacher, Geshe Michael Roach. You can sign up in Spanish in that specific QR code. And lastly, the upcoming event in September, it's the Heart of the Yogi, Bhagavad Gita II, Song of Victory II.

Also, we will have Geshe Michael featuring with Earl Bernie, Michael Johnson, Connie O'Brien, and more YSI instructors. So don't miss it. And Alex is the Spanish distributor for YSI.

So if you feel called to come to these events, talk to him.

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Yeah, I just get dressed well to come here. And that's all I'm going to say because I don't want to steal your time. Yeah, register, please.

Ripples of Light will be like, or how do you say, a star team, or how do you say in this football? All-star team. Yeah, we have John Brady.

We have Connie. We have Earl. And from other organizations, we have Tim, Ben Kramer.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, Peter, Marsha. I can finish. Peter, et cetera.

Yeah, so come and meditate with us.

[Speaker 1]
OK, thank you very much. Every week, we do things like this. And Monday, we will have another session.

There were many things you wouldn't imagine, many things we were not able to cover. We'll try on Monday.

[Speaker 2]
Vamos a intentar el lunes.

[Speaker 1]
Celebrating, actually, just to say CONALEP. That Sofia and Alex and Fernanda and Anahi and Olga have been part of. We'll talk about on Monday.

Thank you very much.

[Speaker 2]
Vamos a hablar de eso el lunes. Muchas gracias.

[Speaker 1]
Gracias. Thank you, YSI. Thank you, Moni.

[Speaker 2]
Hi. Thank you for the beautiful mixed arts class. I mean, Sunset Tower class.

And today, we have a short break, 10 minutes. And after that, we will have yoga class with YSI teacher, Paola. Please get ready and see you at yoga class.

[Speaker 1]
Welcome back.

[Speaker 2]
We're gonna start yoga class for those