Ник Лашо — Книга 2: Ратнамала, занятие 48

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Come on, everybody, just one sec. All right, hi. Welcome to Xuanzang's Tower.

Here we go. So, today we have a class with me, with Geshe Michael, thankfully, and then with Utpala. I just heard that somebody left something on, so I'm going to take care of that.

But I got an exciting quiz for you today. And then we have, hopefully, a very interesting and educational class about Nagarjuna. Is Geshe Michael here?

Sorry to make you all so dizzy. I just didn't want to burn down the house. Don't do it.

Yep. None of us want that for you. Yeah.

Oh. No, no, it's me. I'm happy to see you.

Thank you, likewise. I'm sure Dr. Geshe Michael will be here any minute. I imagine they're in a room, in a room.

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Yes.

[Говорящий 1]
Setting up the microphone. Furiously microphoning. Microphoning, setting it up to sound nice.

Camering. I just realized that somehow my quiz master that I prepared, somehow I mispasted her. Uh-oh, you're dogging it.

Could be. Oh, wait, what if I turn this black? Hold on a minute.

Yeah, I accidentally whited it all out. All right. My dog spit it back out.

Thanks, dog.

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Oh, good. Gross.

[Говорящий 1]
Here he comes. Here comes Giroux. Good boy.

He can be at the class. Yeah, potentially. Be more fun for y'all.

Okay, my quiz is sufficiently whited out. I am in a position to share with you. I hear sounds.

Sounds like they're creeping in from Rimrock. Maybe not. Maybe.

I don't see sign of them yet. No. Thanks for checking.

Let's see what the chat says about it all. Chat doesn't have much to say about it. No, there's a tactic AI extension.

Maybe the AI will know. Yeah, they could probably deduce it. Almost certainly.

Okay.

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Should we do your quiz?

[Говорящий 1]
Let's do it. Yeah. I like it.

There's a quiz. Let's see what this one's called. Good enough.

All right. Well, this is first question is kind of a review of what we've done for our last couple of classes. And those couple of classes were a while ago.

So I understand if you don't remember exactly what we're talking about. So this first question, especially those of you who take good notes may have a better chance at answering. I think it was three months ago.

The last time I had a class. Hey. Hey.

How are you? Good. Good.

Good. How's my Rimrock friends? They're hanging out.

All right. I heard I see a question in the chat. Can anybody see the quiz?

I know I can see it. I can see the quiz.

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Okay.

[Говорящий 1]
Michael can see it. Okay, that's great. I can't say I can see the answer.

In your mind's eye. The teacher doesn't have to answer the homework. Do not have to.

That is the rule. So that means I don't have to answer it either. If it's can I get cataract surgery on my mind's eye.

That's what we're doing here. Ben. Exactly.

Exactly. I thank you for your service. Here we go.

I have to say it's a wonderful thing. That's wonderful. It's an amazing thing.

Cool.

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So when I still boss, have you done the other yet?

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, the other guys having trouble keeping up. I did the other one in a week. I'll bring you a hamburger.

Yeah, right. Can you turn up your microphone, please. I don't have a microphone.

There's the problem. Family's not a tech guy. You have a microphone.

He's got quite the collection of tech devices. I know that one. If you increase the volume on your laptop, that should also have a similar effect.

If you go in the back end, if you go into settings and increase the input volume. Hello, boo boo doo doo. Boo boo doo doo.

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Hello.

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Does that help? Yes. A little bit more.

A little bit more.

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That's all.

[Говорящий 1]
That's all it'll go. Okay. Okay.

Thank you. You're welcome. Okay, Nick, get going.

Let's do it. Good to see you, Geshe Michael. Yeah, it's good to be here.

Sounds like I'll see you soon. Yeah, the 10th anniversary celebration. Oh, that too.

Yeah, but even maybe before that. Oh, yeah. All right, so what are the five kinds of analysis that Master Nagarjuna is urging us to use to examine whether or not we have a self nature?

This is going back, covering, spanning the last couple of classes that we had together. That's cheap. And the first, I'll give you a hint.

The first analysis has like three parts. This is how long the answer is. They don't try to study the second one yet.

Anybody? Any takers? The first one is something to do with the person and their parts are not one.

Yes, because there would be three problems, right? Right. The self would have to be constantly changing.

Yep. The self would have to be many. Yeah.

Related to each part. Yeah. And then there's this kind of strange one about it would be incorrect to say that anyone could remember their past births.

Yes. And that's the first kind of analysis. Yeah.

That's really good. Thank you. You're welcome.

Thank you. There were four others. Do you have those in your mental or verbal recollection?

Or, I mean, written? Yeah, the parts that don't rely on the self. Uh-huh.

In what way? In any way. Okay.

I mean, they specify. The way a juniper tree relies on a basin. Yeah, good.

Something like that. A plant relies on its pot. Right.

Keep going. You're on a roll. The third is that the self doesn't rely on the parts.

And the fourth is there's no some discreet self, which is not those parts. Yeah, good. The self that's free of parts.

Yeah. And then. You can't say that the self.

Is, is. Mixed together with it. Arts like.

Firewood and fire. Nice. Great.

So the second and third ones were that. Parts don't rely on a self the way that a plant relies on its pot. And then the third one is the part.

The self doesn't rely on the parts. The way a plant relies on its pot. So it just goes both.

Both ways. It's a two way. Yeah.

Two way. Good. Okay.

You nailed it. Thank you. Amazing.

I tried to frame them as questions because they're supposed to be these analysis. That we're using to examine whether or not we have a self nature. So thank you.

Paula. Thank you. Nagarjuna for giving these.

Five analyses. Okay. This is a question.

That's not for gushing Michael. Cause he explained it to us. Yeah.

What's the difference between June cure and June cure. Which is a misspelling. Which is a misspelling in the context of what's happening in our text.

And why. Is it often misspelled. That's a tough one.

Would be. Products of the elements. Or what came out of the elements.

Yeah. And then. June.

Here. Would be came from. I can't tell which one you're saying, but I like it.

It's not. They just sound the same, but yeah. Oh.

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What did you say?

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Oh, yeah. The products of the elements. This one.

June gear. Okay. And then June cure.

Past tense came from. You're correct about the past tense. And I think, I don't know if it's still up for discussion.

But I believe what we came to in the last class. Was that cure. Is actually the correct one for describing the products of the elements.

That's correct. Yeah. But this one.

Yeah. And it is past tense. Like you said.

Yeah. Yeah. And so.

You've taken us so far. Why. Why is this.

Confusion so common. Well, because. Jill ends in NG.

Which sounds like the pre nasal in front of. Here. Awesome.

Nice. Nice job. Yeah.

Excellent. The one woman homework answer. Wait a minute.

Don't look at my answer. What's the Sanskrit for extra credit. Oh, my God.

I don't know the Sanskrit for extra credit. Good. Let's give someone else a chance.

Good. I think word is saying it. But thankfully his connection is not that good.

Yeah. When we bet money, I can hardly hear him. I think that was really close.

Yeah. Yeah. Good word.

And the other one. I was just kidding about your connection. Just because you always get the right answers.

Because we love you. But what. What's the other one.

Remember. Yeah. I couldn't hear how your connection really is that bad.

You got it.

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It is. Well, Paula put it in the chat. But also, I did see it while you had it uncovered.

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Oh, good for you.

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I know that it's Bhautika.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, Bhuta and Bhautika. Good job. All right.

Let's see if we can roughly summarize Gyaltsabje's explanation of why the elements can be neither one thing nor many things. Through some nature of their own. This is kind of hard.

Because it would be logically stupid to say that. If one thing is one thing, it's one thing. It's not many things.

What's going on? Come on. That's roughly what my question asked for.

Great. I actually just pasted in the answer what he said here. Yeah, okay.

So, it was a little different to me than any other way we've seen the proof of neither one nor many before. Because he was more saying that the other three are not equivalent to each other. So, therefore, they're not one thing.

They're different from each other. Okay. Right?

Am I right in understanding that that's the way he's saying that they're not one? I think so. Okay.

And they're not many because they also... They're not one. Yeah.

And he says we can't find it somewhere else. Okay. Let's go to the text.

You gave me a section to work on, Geshe Michael. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Uh-huh. I struggled a little bit. It's been a little bit busier than usual the last few months.

Strange thing that you had to move. I don't know. I know.

Unusual. You should have a reality show. Like those people that fix up a house.

Yeah, I know. Modern nomad. Yeah.

So, here we go. I think this is where you asked me to start. The collection doesn't exist through any nature of its own.

Uh... Okay. It would be contradictory to say that the contradiction...

Good, yeah, yeah. It would be contradictory to say that something that had come together through dependence existed through some nature of its own. Okay.

And then this section has... So, the third part has three parts of its own. Upon examination, we find it is contradictory to say that the collection has some nature of its own.

So, that the Gelwa part is more about the first of the... In this larger section, the Gelwa part is more about the first. The Gelwa is the first part of that.

You know what I mean? I think this was the larger section. I wonder if the tu might mean depend.

I don't know. Like, to do... To do is a synonym for tenjun.

Oh, yeah, right. Oh, like turn up since they're dependent? Yeah.

Yeah, it could be that, yeah. Probably is, yeah. But we won't know until we get there.

Okay. Okay. Okay.

Yeah, we do occur... We're going to encounter another tu in a little bit. Okay.

Yeah, don't forget that to do is the same as tenjun. Okay. To do is a synonym for tenjun.

Okay. All right. Okay, is this okay?

Refuting responses to that?

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Yeah.

[Говорящий 1]
Uh-huh. Yeah. All right.

And eliminating disputes. Yeah. By the way, I'm in a tenjun frame of mind...

State of mind? Billy Joel? Yeah.

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Tenjun state of mind.

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I'm in a tenjun state of mind. Because I'm working on Gibson's Praise of Dependence. Okay.

Cool. Thank you for cranking out our books. Yeah, it's going to be good.

Okay. What's up next? Did you do more?

Oh, yes. By the way, Aisha, we're missing a bunch of verses here. I can tell you which ones.

We are missing... We're missing 78 to 96 in the Sanskrit. Just if you want to give it one more shot.

Okay. All right. I believe they were missing forever, but see what you can do.

She's magical. Yeah, we should look. My suggestion is to eat some empanadas and then go look.

You guys got empanadas?

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Never mind.

[Говорящий 1]
I'm not jealous. I'm just, you know, curious. Okay.

Do you want to look at the verse or should we just skip right to the commentary? I hate the verse. I like to go to the commentary.

I like to check just for fun. You got to go backwards, though. You got to do the commentary and then go to the verse.

Okay. Let's see. Geshe Michael, who's there and who can read?

How about Stanley, since I saw him already? He is here. I don't know if he can read or not.

That's questionable. Is he cooking the empanadas? We are having empanadas, but not...

Well, that's a no. Do you want to close this?

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I am officially jealous.

[Говорящий 1]
Hi, Stanley. Hi. We'll see you soon.

Yeah. Coming up. This is kel.

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Kel.

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It's not an English G. Ah. Kel.

Kel. Kel te sum med pa re re med la med tabu. chik med pa yang shen sum med pa'i chok.

Yeah, good. Individually, none of the elements exist in your nature. jungwa ma sosong rangshing gi yinpa mayun min de.

Because no individual one exists in your nature. Kel te sum med pa. Oh yeah, because no one interjects, that's why I'll do that.

Okay. MED DANG PO'I PHYI'I MED PAR YANG, GZHAN GSUNGS MED MED YIN PHYI'I PHYIR MED DANG PO'I PHYI'I MED PAR So in the case of, if you took one of the four, if you took for example fire, if that one wasn't there, then the other three couldn't be there either. Okay, I'll correct it later.

Yeah, okay. Stanley, can you choose somebody for the next sentence, please? Earl, did you see Earl beat that sumo wrestler guy?

Yeah, he made short work of the guy. Yeah, the guy looked kind of embarrassed. I always thought sumo wrestlers were tough, but I mean, I guess it's just that Earl is that tough.

He is. Where are we? At the top there?

Yeah, Chittar. Okay, good. How can we say that the collection of rice is from Chittar?

By the way, Chittar is either ancient or wrong, but we'll check it someday. You know what we could do? We could use the Nartang for once.

Yeah, let's do that. It does appear to be this in our scans, but I think... Can you go up to the Nartang?

We have more places to check. Yeah, so... Oh, wait.

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Chittar.

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Oh, I see, I see, I see. So what we could do, you guys, just for your information, you could say tar du pa kye. I would search that in the Nartang.

It'd be interesting to see what we hit. We have typed in a new tengyur, which is another like 4,000 books, and we're still cataloging it. Or I should say, Oscar is cataloging it.

So, I'm going to go to the... I think only the people in this room can see me, right? Do you want to share your screen, Geshe-la?

I can. Okay, let me see here. Here's the...

I see it. Yeah, there's the phrase, and then we have to find the Nartang. Where is the Nartang?

Down, down, third from the bottom. Oh, yeah, down here. Okay.

All right, let's see if the Nartang has it like this. Yeah, Nartang has ji. Cool.

And it's only once there, so this is your text. Ji, so the other one's mistaken. But it looks like our version of the tengyur is okay, it was just that it was...

Exactly. ...mistyped in Gyaltsabje. Yep, or who knows.

Right. By the way, that mistake's not common because the letters don't look similar. Chittar is an ancient form though.

It's okay. Roughly, I mean, it would be the same meaning, right? Chittar.

Where are you? You want to share your screen now? Yes.

I'm back. I'm back. Chittar, where were we?

Oh, yeah, chittar-lupa. How do we say the connection?

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I see chittar there also, but it's kyewar instead of kyepar.

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Kyewar instead of kyepar?

[Говорящий 2]
Yeah, kyewar instead of kyepar. So just as ky-e with no ta suffix.

[Говорящий 1]
That would actually make more sense. Where did you see that? In the North Tongue.

Oh, now that's really interesting. Okay.

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You should make a note of that.

[Говорящий 1]
But someone's quoting it. Aha, right, right, right. It's not the same.

It's not the text.

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Oh, yeah.

[Говорящий 1]
And we don't have the Sanskrit to confirm. I mean, to me, Kye, you found it? Unless we have the Sanskrit of whoever's quoting it.

Oh, they found it. We'll have it. Really?

Chapter 1, yeah. Chapter 1 question. Okay, exciting.

That's cool. So by next class, which is two years from now... That'll make me cry.

But I think, by the way, I can have more regular classes. Things are looking okay. SOS SO RANG GI NGO BO MED PA'I PHYIR It couldn't because no one individually has any SS.

Yeah, okay. That's all right. Cool.

Now we're up to refuting responses. TE LEN DGAG PA Okay, good. Oh, wait.

Do we want to go back and look at the verse? Nope. Okay.

I mean, the verse is kind of artificial after you have the commentary. Yeah. You just glue it together.

Piece it back together. Aisha, can you read this one? Yeah.

She's dying to.

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Which one?

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SOS SO RANG GI NGO BO I want to do the Sanskrit.

[Говорящий 2]
Okay. SOS SO RANG GI NGO BO NGO BO GYOPEN SOS SO RANG GI NGO BO RANG SHI RGYI GCOD DOD GZHAN NA Yeah.

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Nick, I would think the key should be G-Y-I-S. I would type in there. Okay.

You know? Yes, absolutely. Probably.

No, I'm sorry, the G. Oh, this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what I think. Yeah. RANG SHI RGYI, oh yeah, it always is, right?

Yeah, it always is.

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Yeah.

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Okay, someone may say that... stick around because you didn't read much. Let's say each one individually has its own nature.

And so the collection... Okay, good. Let's keep going.

BYUNG BA GSUM BYUNG BA GSUM Miss Sanskrit is going to read.

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GYI DANG NYID GANG GIS CHEN CHEN GYI BU BUNG ZHIG MED PAR MED CI THOS MED YOD PAR DANG NGON TE ZHING BO SOS SO RANG GI DGOS BO YOD Good cheer.

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Yeah. This is where I started getting a little bit confused. Yeah.

Yeah. This is tricky. What he's saying is no common object can be purely any one of the four elements.

It can't be. All common physical compositions have all four elements in them. Even steel has water in it.

Even water has fire in it. I understand that that's the sentiment of the verse. But I can't understand how he's saying it.

Because first he mentions three and then the other one. Yeah, it just means if you could have firewood that didn't have the other three, if there was no such thing as firewood that had the other three elements in it, then how could you have fire? Okay.

What's happening here with the... Yeah, I see what you're saying. Oh, if you didn't have firewood that had the other three elements in it, then how could you have fire?

Oh, cool. Well, yeah, this double negative, right? Yeah, that's great.

Now I see. Cool. There's no if, but I understand how it says that.

By the way, it's very important to pause. Chi te me... Yeah, yeah.

I see now. I was confused about that. Okay.

Here's a big mistake in the carving. Yeah, thank you for reminding me. Shimbo is a bad spelling for the Lord of Death, and he just wanted to say fourth.

The fourth. All right. In this case, he's saying the fourth meaning fire.

He's on a different text. It doesn't help me to correct it. I was reminding you.

You corrected something, but you didn't put a percentage. Oh, yeah. Where?

Okay. But this is not the text we're using. It's his.

It's his copy. Okay. All right.

Keep going, handsome. So then it says, so-so-rang-gi-ngo-wa-yo-pay-ta-shi-po. So I guess it's saying the fourth...

There's a cheer, so you're saying because the fourth one exists... because otherwise the fourth one would have to exist through its own nature, something like that? Is it all four?

Shi-po? Say again? All four, yeah.

Oh, okay. All four elements exist by their own nature. Yeah.

Okay. You're saying otherwise they would all four have to exist through their own nature, something like that? Something like that, yeah.

Meaning earth, water, and wind. Something like that. Yeah.

Okay. So I think I'm on to the right thing here, but maybe instead of there must be, there would have to be. But I guess let's read it.

Okay. Earl, can you pick someone? Mike.

Mike. Hang on. The third piano player.

De-shin. Yo. Yo, man.

Yo. Nice. Nice, very nice.

So, if I say he is mentioning three of the functions of the four elements, who can guess what they are? Yo. I'm guessing that's motility in this case.

Yeah, shifting or moving, which is a quality, that's a defining quality of wind. Wind, yeah. If a thing can move, it has wind in it, so wind is not an element really, it's a function.

What's tokpa? Obstruction or solidity? Yeah, strikeability, which is a function of the element of earth, minpa.

Heat. Yeah, minpa means ripening things, which is what the sun does for crops, for example. So, yeah.

If you didn't have the functions of the other three elements at all there, then chu chi me... You wouldn't have water. How could you have water?

Why me par chu chi me? That's difficult. I mean, could you say that there was no water?

I don't know. Could there exist water in the absence of the other three elements? Yeah.

Seems like we're saying no. Yeah, then Aquaman would be the only human on the planet. Okay.

All right. Keep going. Can I ask you a quick question?

Since this is in the context of the elements, would you translate minpa as heat? No, ripening, I think. Ripening.

Heat ripens. Okay. Cool.

Good to know. Okay, and then now it seems that he's only including two of the other qualities moving forward. He does a similar structure, but now he just says obstruction and ripening, or solidity and ripening included within it.

There would have to be wind element that did not have solidity or ripening included in it. Yeah, good. Okay.

Would there be such a thing as wind which was purely the wind element and didn't have any solidity or warming quality to it? These are all ridiculous consequences of the other guy's position that the elements exist from their own side, which he says means they would have to exist independently, which means they wouldn't depend on the presence of the other elements, which would mean that water could function by itself without ever moving, for example. It's interesting.

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Could he be...

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All physical objects have all four functions of heat, movement, you see? Do you think he's saying that there could be something? Yeah, there could be a wind that had no qualities of solidity and heat.

But the idea in Buddhism is that all objects have some temperature. We call absolute zero, right? They never reach absolute zero.

Even an ice cube has some heat in it. You see what I mean? An ice cube is hotter than dry ice, for example.

You see what I mean? So it has some heat. Okay.

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Is he equivocating here, Foss, between water as the element and water as the substance, which is partly made of that element?

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I don't think he's purposely equivocating. I think he's sticking to the elements. Okay.

But you could read it as the general object called water. Yeah. I think Ben, actually, you're right.

When he says chu and lung, he's talking about water and wind in the world at large, which is not the pure element. If the chu and the lung here were the pure element, it is true that they don't have the other elements in them. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask also.

Yeah. I think Ben has a good point there. He must be hanging out in Kyoto.

That was it. Okay, keep going. You got to pull this tooth out, Nick.

All right, here's that other tooth. So now the tooth does seem to mean dependent. Yeah, good.

It does. Yeah, yeah. It can mean the imperative to look.

Dö da means take a look. From dawa. But here it's got to be rely.

Different word. Okay. So it's saying because these things don't rely on each other, they exist through their own essence.

Yeah, it's not the case that movement acts relative to warming. It's not the case that gravity... It's not the case that...

These are all forces in physics, I think. They're not just elements. Movement...

What do you call it? You often say motility. You can say motility, but they're more fundamental.

They're like gravity and entropy. These are all... These ancient words are really names for modern physics forces that run the universe.

And they're very sophisticated. You see what I mean? They're not dirt is in your hair or something.

You have the earth element or something like that. Although that's true. Occasionally some kind of dirt or sand in my hair.

Yeah, well, we're not all surfers. Okay, next paragraph. All right, it's up to you now.

You take the plane, sir. Mike's jumping out. Jump out of the plane, Mike.

He did good. He did good. Yeah, I can read.

You can read. Yeah, yeah. I think we were...

Yeah, we're down here, right? Okay, Nick, who's going to read this one? Let me get a big curse word.

Mike, can you pick someone, please? Okay, here we go. Okay, go.

GSUM PA NI RGYAL TE MED Not RGYAL. RGYAL TE RGYAL There is no KA in English language. KA Sexy KA.

It's not RGYAL. Okay, RGYAL. RGYAL TE MED KO NE SHING MED PAR MI DBYUNG BAR DRAG PA'I RTOG PA YIN GYI GYI GZHAN SUM RTOG MED DU RANG GI NGOS BO YOD NGOS BU NGOS BU NGOS BU YOD DE SHES YOD DO SHES NA Good.

GSUM PA NI means TSOS PA PO BA. Yeah. Somebody's going to come back with rebuttal.

They get to argue back. And he says, if it's only the case that without ME... Without fire.

With only fire, right? I'm sorry. If it's only the case...

If it's the case that only fire exists without wood, if it's the case that fire is the only one that exists without wood, and that's common knowledge. DRAG PA. What's the other meaning of DRAG PA?

Famous. Losang DRAG PA. But it means everybody knows.

DRAG PA. LTOS PA YIN GYIS. So, everybody knows that fire depends on firewood.

Okay. YIN GYIS. But the other three, which is water, wind, earth, they can exist independently.

Okay? Fire... So what his position is, fire arises independent.

The other three don't have to. The other three can exist independently. Only fire is dependent on fuel.

And the other three are independent. And therefore they exist in and of themselves. Okay?

Which is a dirty word in Madhyamika. In and of themselves. That's a dirty...

Meaning, meaning... Go to Kyoto. Meaning what?

In and of themselves here means they don't come from seeds you planted by being good or bad to other people. If you read that everywhere you're a Buddhist. Then you understand Buddhism.

Okay? He's saying here could they exist independently, meaning could they not be ethically based? Could there be water, earth, you know, wind in the absence of good or bad behavior?

And that's real Buddhism. It always comes down to that. You got to remember that.

They're not discussing atoms and stuff like that. They're discussing whether or not you're going to suffer in next life. Okay.

Here we go. I'm going to go straight to the commentary, and Anatole's begging to read another one. He started crying.

I don't know what it was. It's going to be okay, Anatole. You can do it.

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Okay.

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MIN PAR DAG You got it. You might as well read the rest.

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GZHAN GSUM PO BSTAN CING SBYUNG BA DANG PHYIR MI THUN PA NI RUNG BANG MIN PA'I PHYIR TE GZHAN LA SDOD PA'I PHYIR Okay.

[Говорящий 1]
Here we go. Let's go slow because it's complicated. MIG.

Well done.

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Yeah.

[Говорящий 1]
Are you saying that ME'I is MA BSTOD PAR on GZHAN GSUM? Yeah. So fire is not depending upon these other three?

Yeah. Are you saying that fire doesn't depend on the other three? You can say elements, but think of it as elemental forces in the universe, like gravity, motion, entropy.

Okay? Like that. GZHAN GSUM LA MA BSTOD PAR BDAG NI MED NA If they don't have a self, yeah, okay.

If that's not the way they exist, maybe here? You could say something like, are you saying that fire has no essential nature in the absence of the other three? Okay.

Are you saying that fire has no nature of its own in the absence of the other three? Okay. Then he says, JI LTAR GAO Then how can you say that without relying on the other three elements, okay?

RANG GI NGO BA YOD PA MIN PA DANG RANG GI NGO BA YOD PA MIN PA DANG It could exist in and of itself. Isn't that not the case? Whoa.

YOD PA Okay? If fire can't exist in a vacuum, if fire can't exist without some reliance on the other three, which was shown to be the case because fire depended on firewood, and firewood has the other three in it, even if fire doesn't. If you say fire is pure fire and it doesn't have any water in it, or any solidity in it, or any motion in it, then, okay, but if it depends on...

You showed that fire depended on firewood, and firewood depends on solidity, etc. So, the other elements have to be there for fire to be there. Okay?

And they are mixing, Ben, the element of fire and fire in the general world. Yeah, there's some heavy equivocation. Fire as an element is temperature.

How's that? Okay? Nothing is absolute zero.

Everything has some temperature. Even if it's minus 253 degrees, you know, it's still a temperature. Okay?

Okay. MA LTOS PAR DANG NYID MIN NA So, if fire cannot exist on its own, in and of itself, then how can you say that the other three could exist without depending on anything else? You agreed that fire needed firewood, but now you're saying the other three are somehow different?

Like wind can exist without fire? Or wind could exist without moisture? Are you saying that?

Are you saying there could be a world where there was only wind and no moisture? And are you saying that it's not the case that all physical objects have some degree of moisture? Okay?

On Darwin, Arizona, it's not very high. Okay? All right?

BRTZON PA MED PAR RANG GI NGUR YOD PA MED PA DAG If you say that they have to depend on something else, then you can't say that the elements individually exist in and of themselves. If fire cannot exist without the other elements, you cannot say fire is a discrete entity. Okay?

Which is to say, and I think even Abhidharma guys would agree, fire cannot exist in a vacuum. They proved it with fire that there had to be some fuel for there to be fire. That's a very gross example, but you'd have to have fire without movement.

If fire was independent of the wind element, then a flame would never flicker. You see what I mean? Something like that.

Okay. Interesting. So, what is the min doing at the end of the sentence there?

I know it's just a... RANG GI NGUR YOD PA MED PA DAG It must not be the case that the other three exist in and of themselves. Something like that.

Okay? GZHAN GSUM PA BSTAN CING SBYUNG BA DANG PHYIR MI BDUN PA And if you say that the other three, other than fire, fire, are inconsistent with the principle of dependent origination. Okay?

Of existing independence. I have a new word for it. What is it?

Dependent events. Yeah, event. Dependent events.

Events is to get out of the problem of growing. If it grows, if you use any verb for dependent origination, which implies growing, then emptiness cannot have dependent origination. And unchanging things cannot have dependent origination.

And they do have dependent origination. See what I mean? If in translating the word tendo, if you use any word which indicates growing, then in my opinion, it's an obvious mistake for a person who really understands dependence.

You can't say that. Because it excludes everything that doesn't have causes. Exactly.

It excludes empty space. It excludes emptiness. Things like that.

What about existence? Say again? Existence.

But there has to be some kind of movement. You're used to what happens. You can say happening.

Yeah. Emptiness happens. It doesn't grow.

It occurs, but it doesn't grow. I like event because in my mind, it doesn't imply getting bigger. You see what I mean?

And that's, to me, if you really understand dependent origination—I hate the word— for 50 years, I've been looking for a different word. I got that word at Princeton. They gave me that word at Princeton in the Buddhism class.

And I was like, God, that's weird. Okay? Dependent events.

It's an event. Emptiness is an event, but it's not a... It's an entity, but it's not a growing thing.

Okay? Got it? If you say dependent growing or dependent arising, it's very, very close to wrong.

Arising is... maybe you could get away with arising, but growing is completely wrong. And if you don't feel that, and you don't see that, then you don't understand dependence.

You see what I mean? Then you don't understand what it is. Okay?

If you think it means arising, you're... you don't understand emptiness or dependence. Okay?

Okay, anyway. DBYUNG BA'I PHYUD MI BSTOD PA GZHAN GSUM PA'I RTEN CING, DBYUNG BA'I DANG PHYUD MI BSTOD PA Yeah, the other three must be inconsistent with the idea of occurring in dependence. Okay?

Okay, occurring is not bad event. But that's not true. Okay?

It's not that they are inconsistent with dependence. Okay? It's not true that the other three elements other than fire are inconsistent with dependence, even though fire is so obviously dependent.

Because they do GZHAN LA BSTOD PA. They do depend upon other things. Yeah, and he's careful to say BSTOD PA.

And you have to be careful when you translate that. And to rely upon other things. Yeah, use a different verb.

He's purposely using a different verb than DEN PA. He's not using R-T-E-N. He's using L-T-O-S.

Because he wants to catch a different flavor. He wants to say rely rather than dependent. Cool?

All right. How are we doing on time, kids? Seven minutes.

We're almost to the impossible. What's a dream? When Nick explains how we could use this in our normal life.

Everybody get your microscope out. Okay, we're on part number four, which is GZHAN LA BSTOD PA, which means we denied their... We denied the element they gave to prove their point.

They said some things to prove their point, and we blocked those. We blocked their attempted perverse. All right, still missing the stanzas.

Wait. She found it. She found it.

She always finds it sooner or later. Okay. Usually it's just after the book went for printing.

Okay, who's going to read, Nick? Nick, you want to pick somebody, or you want us to pick somebody? You guys go ahead.

My internet just cut out for a sec, but I think it's back. I think it's good luck to have the Peace Tree World News guy read something. Oh, no.

No.

[Говорящий 2]
No, I'm joking.

[Говорящий 1]
Let's go, let's go. Warm up your voice. Not gel, okay?

It is not an English sound. We don't have it in English.

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DU KYANG RANG GI NGO BO YOD DO GZHAN NA Now that's short, so you're going to do more, so sit here.

[Говорящий 1]
GAL TE means...

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Therefore.

[Говорящий 1]
If you say... So, the other guy has trying to back out. He's trying to cover his miriam.

GAL TE BYUNG BA RNAMS Those elements, BYUNG BA, those elements, plural. When you have an S after a word, it must be a noun. BYUNG BA is a verb, to happen.

But when it says happens, ZS, ZS, then you know it means elements. Elements. PHAN TSUN Mutually dependent upon each other.

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Mutually.

[Говорящий 1]
Like fire and water. Fire depends on water, and water depends on fire. That's PHAN TSUN.

Okay. LTOS means they do rely on each other mutually. KYANG But.

Yeah, good, but. You got the but. But, I don't have the but.

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KYANG RANG GI NGO BO YOD DO So say, in and of themselves.

[Говорящий 1]
Nice, beautiful, perfect. In and of themselves, YOD DO They exist. Yeah, GZHAN NA.

So some guy comes up and says, I admit that the elements depend on each other. I admit that. But that doesn't mean they don't exist in and of themselves.

Elements that exist in and of themselves could lean on each other. Because they all lean. Okay, one more sentence.

Now, this is a principle, Nick, when you're teaching a class and somebody did really well on a sentence, make them do another one. And they'll mess up. Okay.

He's going to prove me wrong.

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Go up.

[Говорящий 1]
We're responding to him.

[Говорящий 2]
Okay. Long. Okay.

[Говорящий 1]
DBYUNG BA means what? Especially if there's those after it. It cannot be a verb if it says those after it.

Those elements. Those elements. In any way, mutually rely on each other.

You need a different word for depend here. Mutually reliant. Do they exist through some kind of mutual reliance?

MI BSTAD It would be incorrect to say that they do. Yeah, who's saying this? The other guy.

Kachi. We're saying this. You cannot say that those other elements are somehow exist through a mutual dependence.

You cannot say that. And the guy says, and he's defending himself. He says, there's CI PHYIR here.

Why you say that? We said, listen, those other three elements besides fire, we talked about fire already. The other three cannot, it's incorrect to say that they could exist without relying on each other.

Got it. And we say that to him sarcastically. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got it. It must not be the case that you could say they don't rely on each other. The other, because they...

They exist through their own nature. Each one. Yeah, you can't say they depend on each other.

Because they exist...

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In and of themselves.

[Говорящий 1]
Good, beautiful. In and of themselves. What would that mean with a pen?

[Говорящий 2]
You will have not share writing tools to others in order to have one.

[Говорящий 1]
It would have to exist independent of morality. Okay. And you got to think like that.

And that's the crux of emptiness. It's very beautiful. It's a very beautiful thing.

Okay. If they existed by nature, morality wouldn't be necessary. You could steal pens then.

And you'd still get pens. Okay. All right.

Let's do one more with the handsome guy. And with Hasso also. Okay.

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Okay.

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If you say they don't exist through some nature of their own, then how... If they don't have a nature of their own, then how could they rely on each other then? Okay, got it?

If they don't have any nature of their own, how could they rely on each other then? That's a false statement. Okay.

Things don't exist from their own side. They exist through your ethics. But he's saying, if they could exist independently of their...

of your ethics, couldn't they still rely on each other? Okay. And we say mi te.

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It's not. You cannot say that.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, because none of them exist through any essence of itself. Okay. None of them are coming in any way independently of your behavior.

Cool. So then they can't have a relationship which is independent. Because they're not independent things, so they can't have an independent relationship.

Okay. Cool. Yeah.

Okay, Nicholas, last thing. And then I'll go sit down with my honey bunny. You're gonna translate...

Can we say the next four sections? Sure. Shi, gyel te, nga ma, so soy.

Great. All right. We'll see you soon.

Thank you so much. Okay, now Nick is going to lead a conversation of why you can use this in your own independent life. Right?

You want to hang out?

[Говорящий 2]
The sharing.

[Говорящий 1]
Oh, sorry.

[Говорящий 2]
Okay, I'll stop the sharing. Oh, yeah. Get more pens.

[Говорящий 1]
Oh, sorry. No, here. What?

Oh, here, here. Oops. There you go.

[Говорящий 2]
Somebody did it.

[Говорящий 1]
All right, hang on there. Me and Jeru want to talk to you guys.

[Говорящий 2]
So, Nick, would you say that fire has water?

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, no, I wouldn't. I mean, I don't know.

[Говорящий 2]
You wouldn't.

[Говорящий 1]
I have a hard time with this section for that reason. Although I don't know. While Hasso initiates this 15-minute discussion into be a debate with me, everybody think about if you have practical applications for any of this section to share with us.

Now, Hasso, when I was listening to this, I was also confused, or when I was trying to translate this and reading it, and I felt like I also felt confused whether we were talking about the elements themselves or fire as an entity like that exists in the world, because it's obviously depends on wood and water obviously depends on other things like movement. So I wonder if there are strict Abhidharma definitions of the elements. I bet there are.

And then maybe, because I can't really have an opinion about whether the element has, you know, qualities of the other elements. I can't, I don't have an opinion about it. It's more of a, I see this as more of like a technical definition, like either we're working with a definition or not.

Because I personally...

[Говорящий 2]
There is a definition.

[Говорящий 1]
Each definition of each element has two words.

[Говорящий 2]
Hot and burning. Sashisekva. Yeah.

Nashinshiwa. Wet and flowing. Like that.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah. So Geshe Michael, in the literature, is there any mention of whether or not the element itself is somehow pure or free of other elements?

[Говорящий 2]
One moment, Nick, you will have to repeat your question in 10 more seconds.

[Говорящий 1]
Oh, it's okay.

[Говорящий 2]
But Mike has something to say.

[Говорящий 1]
I'd love to hear what Mike has to say. Hi, Mike. Hey, Nick.

Good to see you. So I was thinking about when we were talking about how fire has, it doesn't just have the fire element in it, it has the wind and the earth and the water. And then I was thinking for application that...

Wait, Mike. There's a request from the translators that you don't... They are saying, have a sip of it.

Oh, slow down. Take a breath. I gotta slow down.

Okay. So I was thinking when that, if we're talking about relating that to practical application, that when I see someone in my world that I think is bad, or that I have a problem with, that they don't only have that element within them, that there's other elements, they have to have other elements necessarily within them. And so I can start to see that maybe it's just my view of this person being fire, but to remember that they also have earth and wind and whatever it is, like compassion, or they could be also kind and not just one note.

I really like that. That's awesome.

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It makes me think what Mike says is like, anybody that is human must have done kindness. So therefore you have said at some point they've been kind. They're not always irritating, I guess.

[Говорящий 1]
It's like, you know, you can play Radiohead and it can be straight rock, or you can put a little bit of a jazz flair to it.

[Говорящий 2]
Yeah, yeah. But every rock and roll song may have some jazz in it.

[Говорящий 1]
That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That's what I'm getting at.

So for practicality, from a creativity standpoint, sometimes it could be helpful not to box ourselves in to one thing and we can be open to mixing genres or something like that. Pei-Ling has her hand up patiently.

[Говорящий 2]
I was thinking that the establishment of things depends on multiple factors, not just a single. So I was thinking that we have to open our minds in learning new things, new skills, and open our minds to see things.

[Говорящий 1]
You know, we usually think in a linear way. Oh, this is what I think in one single angle only. We block ourselves to see in different angles.

This is what I think. Yeah, thank you for sharing. I think that is one of the really beautiful things about studying the idea of dependence.

Because if you really think about it, and maybe this is what you're, I think this is what you're saying, things are actually dependent upon everything. When you really zoom out enough, every single thing in the universe is interrelated with every single other thing and dependent upon each other, whether directly or very far removed. And this is according to the Abhidharmakosha also.

Every single thing is dependent upon other things. Ah, so that's a really beautiful thing. I thought I'd appreciate that every time I do something good.

If I ever remember to do something good. Thanks. Thank you for sharing.

We have a few more minutes before Hasso delivers us with the world news. Hi, Nick. Hey.

Can I ask a very interesting question? Because before in the text, in a session, there are two dupas, which comes together with the other qualities of, you know, earth and fire. Now, it says without mobility, obstruction and ripening quality, how come there's no water, right?

So the text listed three qualities of the other elements and asked a question about water. Yeah. And I was wondering if dupa is the quality of water.

Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. And now that you mentioned it, I remember wondering the same thing the first time that I went through translating this section.

And I translated it today for the second time because I lost the Word document that I first translated this section on. So I remember coming to the conclusion that it probably was actually. And since we have our teacher here, let's ask him because I think it's an important question.

And I also came to that same conclusion. Michael, if you are there, Juan, it says Michael Roach on your screen. So can you just answer us?

Is it possible that dupa is the quality of flowing? Yeah, I think so.

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Yes, he thinks so. Possible.

[Говорящий 1]
Nice. Really amazing catch.

[Говорящий 2]
He has to confirm. And it's an excellent point.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally.

And I'm glad you caught that. That's awesome. That's it.

Thank you. You win something for that. Next time I see you, I'm going to bring you some chewing gum.

Okay. Oh, that would be better. Yeah, I'll do that.

Yeah, fine. All right. A hundred dollars for chewing gum.

Yeah. Oh, no. It's very expensive in California for chewing gum.

Okay. And thank you for, I thought of that last time. Now I feel relieved that it makes sense.

Who else? So many people were bringing such interesting topics to the screen. I'd say, I'd say, could you?

Nick, could you take a shot at connecting the elements to forces that physicists use? Like energy or gravity, like the basic forces accepted by physicists.

[Говорящий 2]
The four are, by the way, right? Gravity, electromagnetism, and then strong nuclear force and weak nuclear force.

[Говорящий 1]
Can you connect those to the four elements? I think the weak force is the electrons to the nucleus and the nuclear forces, the protons and neutrons to each other. But yeah, connect them to the elements.

That's, I don't know. Maybe the strong force is solidity. And the weak force, you know, that'd be the electrons to the proton, to the nucleus.

That'd be something more like fluidity. Yeah, right. Weak force.

It seems like fire should be electromagnetism. Yeah. Fire would be electromagnetism, I was thinking.

And then water could be gravity.

[Говорящий 2]
Yeah, right. Not, not earth.

[Говорящий 1]
Well, that's a good guess too. I don't know. I was just guessing the strong force could be earth, but maybe the strong force, maybe the strong force is water, or I don't, I can't really, yeah.

[Говорящий 2]
But they say that gravity isn't so much about attraction. That would be more the strong and weak nuclear forces, but that gravity is a warping of space.

[Говорящий 1]
Uh-huh, a warping of space-time. Yeah.

[Говорящий 2]
And how does that make your paycheck bigger?

[Говорящий 1]
That's why, I don't know. Generosity warps space-time. I mean, kind of.

Ethics warps space-time in your favor.

[Говорящий 2]
If in order to have one of those things, you need the other things. In order for a thing to exist, it needs all four of those things. But then it would seem like you have to have one of those things for the other three to depend on first.

[Говорящий 1]
But you can't have one of those things first for the other three to depend on, unless you already have the three to depend on.

[Говорящий 2]
So just like cause and effect are a problem, because you need to have an effect for there to be a cause, and you would need a cause for there to be effect. It's impossible for one to come before the other, just like it's impossible for one to come before the other three. So the only possible explanation is a luminous mental image coming from the way that you've treated people in the past.

[Говорящий 1]
Tell him that was a sexy luminous.

[Говорящий 2]
That was a sexy luminous. Cool. Hubba hubba.

[Говорящий 1]
Time for the news, I think.

[Говорящий 2]
You want to hear the news?

[Говорящий 1]
Bring it to us, Hasso.

[Говорящий 2]
Well, actually, it's very cool to see you. I mean, I was surprised that Errol was here. Like, I just got opened the door and Errol is here.

And, you know, I was thinking he'll be traveling the world. Soon will be. But it was nice to see you both, Ben and Errol, there.

And actually, you, the reason I mentioned is because you are part of the news today. And you'll see why in a moment. OK.

Thank you so much. I will start sharing some news. People who may need to go to the bathroom, do your things, because we have another exciting class coming up.

Then a break. And then another cataloging session. The first cataloging session.

Those are big news with Geshe-la here tonight. And Thai food for those who dare to come live. All right.

Survive. Yeah. OK.

So it's a bribe. Sorry.

[Говорящий 1]
OK.

[Говорящий 2]
OK. Yeah. For those who survive.

All right. So, you know, I was just mentioning, you can see and hear Pichiquino. Thank you, Marina, again for all your help.

Yeah. First thing first. Yeah.

Nur birthday was, I don't know why it looks like this. Maybe if I shrink it. Two fingers.

OK. Done. Oh, nice.

Beautiful. OK. So yeah, Nur had her birthday just two days ago.

And happy birthday. I had the chance to see her quickly yesterday and wish her happy birthday. She's doing more and more work for Veronica and Michael Foundation.

Just a few weeks ago, she came and presented a little bit of what is it about? And she promised to come soon to keep us posted on that. And I'm sure she will.

So happy birthday, Nur. And best wishes. Merry Christmas and all the rest.

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OK.

[Говорящий 2]
Oh, you're there.

[Говорящий 1]
I am here. Thank you so much.

[Говорящий 2]
Very welcome. Here we will eat some, I don't know, cookie in your honor. OK.

We will. Thank you. All right.

I'll talk to you soon for catching up on the news. Oh, nice. Good to see you.

I see Maitri there as well.

[Говорящий 1]
Yes. Thank you so much.

[Говорящий 2]
Very, very welcome. And thank you as well. Now let's talk about Kyoto.

It was a great event. This is a picture of the group. It was very, very fun.

Tim couldn't come today because he is now traveling to Christmas with family. But sending him best wishes. We had a lot of fun.

It was super, super cool. And then I had the experience. I'm very grateful for all the Peachtree World News volunteer team that helped me.

It was very fun and interesting, exciting experience for me to have the first volunteer team. And thanks to them, today we have a few videos that I definitely want to share with you. So number one video is a very nice compilation they did on some of the event.

And let's watch it. Thank you, Marina. Two fingers.

These two? So yeah, thank you. There you go.

And this is a video that one of the volunteers made. So there is future. Like you see, it's great to have content that we can use.

And yeah. I want to show you the other video about some interviews that happened there. And then I will show you something very cool that you may remember.

Jasmine Zhao is promoting now in the world. So let's watch video number two. And I hope people online are watching the full screen.

If you're not, please type it in the chat and we'll see what we can do. So, yay.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah.

[Говорящий 2]
It's our attention. We need to focus. We need to grow up our attention and focus.

Nisifula. I think Jasmine will be happy with that. Because nisifula means thanks to your hard work.

[Говорящий 1]
But with fun, with joyful and so on. And because of that, nisifula too.

[Говорящий 2]
Everybody should come to the teachers to Geshe Michael. Yes, of course. Absolutely.

What brought us? Seeds brought us. Thank you so much.

Okay. So thank you so much. That was another of the volunteers.

So thank you. Thank you so much. It was very, very cool.

And I wanted to show you this PPT where this thing was happening. All the Chinese people were keep saying nisifula, nisifula. And then one time I was in the elevator with them.

And then they were talking about what it means. And I want to show you. Because Chloe helped me to figure it out.

So Marina, can you show the white picture with nisifula? With the letters, please? Yes.

This is a new thing. Because apparently a Chinese very famous phrase is nisiqula. Thank you for your hard work.

But now they are changing it to nisifula. Which is more like thank you for your joyful or fun work. It's a new invention that Jasmine is coming up with.

But everybody love it. And everybody keep repeating it. It's a game of sounds and words.

So nisifula. Thank you for your joyful work. You may see T-shirts on it later.

Who knows? Okay. All right.

Let's keep moving. Because you may wonder what happened with these guys. They...

I, you know, I interviewed them. And it was very, very fun. I haven't finished.

But I want to show you the trailer. So please, Marina. If you can show the next video of the trailer of their exciting interview.

Perfect.

[Говорящий 1]
He said to speak higher, Oscar.

[Говорящий 2]
That's much better. Excellent. Higher.

In my eyes, you have a really great friendship. And also as individuals, you're very interesting people. You have grown a lot from what I hear.

Grown a lot. I think I'm shrinking. The doctor says I've lost an inch.

Oh.

[Говорящий 1]
It's really important to have, for certain of us, friends that make inappropriate jokes. When you need to pull off the pressure valve, it's good to have someone say something to you that's completely inappropriate.

[Говорящий 2]
What's the role that friendships play in our inner personal development? You guys have a cool story about your first meeting.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, we met when we were having wheelbarrow races.

[Говорящий 2]
And so the fact that these guys wanted to have a wheelbarrow race. Not cool. Dangerous.

I was pretty impressed that both of you were laughing, though. And it was such a profound fall. A profound fall.

[Говорящий 1]
But I did save your life once, too, on that same adventure. Was it? Yes.

On that same adventure, I did almost fall off the top of a mountain. Correct. Your first thought was, Kendra is going to be mad at me a second time.

It's like, if you go, Kendra's going to kill me. They're both dead. Where did you meet?

I met Kendra in... That's an embarrassing story. We met at a talk on spiritual relationships.

There was a turn at that mountain. Jesse and Michael used to do talks on spiritual relationships.

[Говорящий 2]
Okay, so more is going to come up. But apparently, what I hear from the stories is like, Errol and Ben have had a very competitive friendship and relationship for many years. So then, I was wondering, like, where are they now?

What are they doing? And then, some private secret sources start sharing these pictures. That's why I was surprised that Errol was here already.

They went to visit the mount... What's the name? Fuji.

Fuji Mountain in Tokyo. Is that correct? So look at that.

Happy campers visiting the mountains. Then, they met with Yuki, David, some other friends are there. And I think they have a great, great time.

But as you hear last time, we discovered what Errol was doing. But that was not the end of the story. So now, I want to show you the end of the story of what happened.

Please, Marina. Last video.

[Говорящий 1]
Moose! Moose! Moose!

Moose! Oh, it's hot air! Moose!

Moose! Moose!

[Говорящий 2]
Hey, hey, hey! Hey, hey, hey! I am Ben Krymer, the guardian of ancient knowledge.

I cannot lose to Harvani so easily. I have to show him how much I can do. So there you go.

If you thought you were going to beat Ben so easily, Errol, no. He fight back and he also defeated Asumo by himself. So who's going to win next time?

We don't know. Maybe next time they wrestle each other. We'll see what happens.

Okay. So now it's time for some events. Oh yeah.

If you had so much fun in Kyoto and you want more fun, you can come to the Diamond Mountain event. That's going to be March 4th to 15th here in beautiful Arizona. You can get your retreat cabin, but not for Jose.

You have to act quickly because those places run out super, super fast. So catch it up now that you can and save the date as well. A few events.

Oh yeah. And then a reminder that if you're an artist and you want to participate with this beautiful project of making your drawing and art, honoring our mothers as angels in our life, you can contact Ola Turchin. She's running this cool project that putting this art in t-shirts and yeah, you have a chance to be part of it.

Just follow the QR code or let us know. Okay. Casa Tartuque is having an event, very cool event.

Teacher Sarani and David are going to be in Mexico in Guadalajara. December 27, they are teaching at Casa Tartuque. You can watch online.

They are doing a fundraising. So whatever you can donate to watch online, it will be greatly appreciated for Casa Tartuque. Sarani and David are going to be running later an event in Chapala Lake, but they opened the sessions in Casa Tartuque this upcoming Saturday.

Chalapa Lake. Yay. Coming up January 16 to 19, Lady Niguma Tree in Kuala Lumpur.

Here's the QR. You can sign up there. Then events in Japan.

There is Jabyla, Connyla, Sophie Chow organizing a talk in Japan on December the 30th. Sorry, no, January the 30th. This upcoming event, Bimbala, she'll be here with us soon talking about it.

Olena and her will be having this beautiful event in Sedona for some days. Pretty much yoga and some philosophy content as well. And Ina and Bill around the same dates in Chicago are going to be having stages on meditation event.

They had it first in Montenegro. Now they're having it in Chicago. One minute.

Oh, yeah, save the date. Chinese New Year coming up Friday. It's going to be Friday, February 16.

And the translators, you're super excited to be part of it. I'm sure. Okay, last thing.

Bhagavad Gita 3 coming up in February 19 to the 22nd here in Arizona. And sign up because we're going to have a New Year 2026 celebration on Wednesday, December 31st more information coming up soon. Enjoy your week and I'll leave you with the next class and get your Michael Roach.

Yay. Thank you.