Ник Лашо — Книга 2: Ратнамала, занятие 42

[Говорящий 1]
Hi, hi everybody. Welcome to Xuanzang's Tower. Hi Geshe Michael.

I hope everyone is doing well this morning or evening or afternoon or whatever it happens to be for you, something else. Good to see you Geshe Michael. Thanks.

Good morning. It looks like everybody's, you guys are almost ready over there. Yeah, most people sat down already.

Cool, I think I saw Sushumna in there. I saw a fluffy little kid. I wish I could borrow some of her hair.

Well, I would just like to say thank you to the Hatha Yoga Pradeepika team for putting together this amazing event and the World View Productions team for doing all the amazing work they do to produce our weekly talks and all of our translators for being so patient and so good. I would like to make a quick request that perhaps the production team could unmute the mix nuts and other people who might like to chime in during class. You can raise your hand if you want to talk and participate in the homework and discussion.

Geshe Michael, I know that you, I think you have some news for us. Are you about ready for that? Yeah, ready.

Thanks, Nick. Okay, cool. Okay, I have a pitch this morning.

So the other day we were saying that John Brady's team has identified 300,000 important classics from Asia from the last 3,000 years. We also mentioned that the Loeb Library at Harvard has 530 classics from the West, which are the important books, not the laundry list from Pompeii, okay? These are important texts.

There are thousands of those fragments, but there's about 530 important texts. An equivalent in Asia is 300,000 texts. And the reason the 530 survive the Middle Ages, the plague, and the Black Plague, and the collapse of Rome and the collapse of Athens, you know, the reason 530 books survive at all from the plague when it went to Europe, killed half of the people, it was a little more serious than COVID.

And then it was chaos. There was chaos everywhere. And civilizations go through that.

Great civilizations of Asia, great civilizations of the West, they go through cycles. They get strong. They create new things.

They do beautiful works of art, beautiful works of literature. They have advances in philosophy and science. And then they get lazy.

They eat too much. They legalize marijuana. And no, the whole country then gets lazy.

And then the leaders are more interested in power, or sex, or money, and alcohol. And then the country, just the civilization, collapses. And then there's a period of chaos.

And that was the Middle Ages. That was the Black Plague. Hundred Years War.

And why we have the 530 books is cool. There were some monks in Ireland. Of course it was Ireland, right, John?

And they had built towers on the seashore to protect their country from the Norsemen, from the Vikings. And they were interesting towers. You can visit them still.

And they have stairwells that go up. They go to the left, up the tower, because an invader cannot use their right hand to swing a sword. It's very interesting, because the stairway goes around clockwise.

And then they would have to use their left hand. And then the right hand would be blocked by the tower. But the guy on top has access to his right hand.

And so these were built. And the monks hid out of there. And they took with them whatever classics they could recover from Europe.

So the Irish monks, there's a joke, well there's a nice book called How the Irish Saved Civilization. And they saved those 500 books. And they kept them in the towers.

And then when people were tired of marijuana and chaos, they took the books out and started teaching them again. But somebody has to keep the books. Somebody has to keep the civilization.

Somebody has to hold it. Some small, dedicated, cool group of people has to keep the civilization until the general population gets more civilized and comes back to civilization from their parties and stuff, and their violence. And so I don't know, 30 years ago, 35 years ago, me and John Brady basically, and a couple other guys, Robert Taylor, Bob Chilton, it's about five, six people at Princeton.

And we decided to try to capture a civilization that was being destroyed. And we had many long meetings at Princeton, it was very beautiful, with great scholars. And we made a plan to save a civilization.

And then that civilization was wiped out. And so we had a, what do you call it? We had a plan.

And we wrote out a plan to save that civilization. And it took about 10 years to write it. But we had all the details of how to save that civilization.

And it's this book here. So I don't know how many pages. It's basically a thousand page plan of how to save a civilization.

And we wrote it about 35 years ago, 30 years ago. And it kind of got lost. There was a demon trying to destroy it.

Half the copies were in a car in New York, and John was bringing them to a release event. And it got hit by another car that ran a red light and destroyed, you know, we had trouble getting the copies. Then we, half of them, we took to Washington, D.C. to preserve there. And the guy, Dr. Taylor, who was supposed to put them in the trunk of the car, put them in the trunk of the car, but it was the wrong car. And that person drove away with half of the copies, and never called us and never gave us our books back. And it was extremely expensive to print.

And we had a fat cat sponsor who quit shortly after that. They tend to quit. I don't know why.

So there's only a few copies left of this plan, which we now call an outline, outline of a plan to save a civilization. And Rosa has made a new cover for it. Here it is.

Okay, outline for saving a civilization. So it's this book, and it's complete. It's how to save that civilization, all the details of how to save it.

And the first thousand books is in here. We're up to 15,000 now. But we found a copy recently, because I cleaned out my, my wife finally got me to clean out my closet.

And we decided to make it available through Diamond Cutter Press. So starting Monday, this book will be available. You want to show the cover again?

Okay, outline for saving a civilization. This book will be available for free. Okay, on ebook.

So I'd like to thank Rosa for creating it. Yeah. And they'll start to be available on Monday.

And you can get it on Monday. And it's free. And you can download the ebook.

Okay. Because if we can spread more copies around, maybe there's a bigger chance that things can be preserved. Okay.

During this dark period in time. By the way, there's an, there's an essay in here for a virtual world of this civilization. There's a, there's a proposal for a virtual world of this civilization.

And you take on an avatar, and typically an eagle, or a bird, or a phoenix. And then you fly around Manhattan. The five boroughs of Manhattan.

And each of the boroughs is one of the five great topics of this civilization's literature. And so if you want to study Middle Way, you go to Manhattan. And if you want to study Diamond Way, you go to Brooklyn, of course.

And you fly there. And then each building is a classic of the, each building is a classic of that topic. And it has many floors.

And you enter at which level of Kerem or Dzogrem you're interested in. And then you talk to the wall, and the wall displays the text. So it was a whole world was we created a whole world.

We proposed it, we never had the resources to build it. So if you're interested in helping with that, that would be nice. A guy, the publisher of Doubleday, which was the largest book publisher in the world at the time, he saw that essay.

And he called me at the diamond business. And he said, I'll give you $50,000 to write a book. You know, and at that time, that was $50,000.

That was like $300,000. And I said, Well, who are you? And he said, Trace Murphy, good Irishman.

And I said, Have you published any other books? He said, Yeah, I finished a couple books this year. And I said, Whose books?

And he said, Well, the Pope. I did the Pope's book. And then I worked with Mother Teresa and finished her book.

And so you're next in line. And I'm okay. And then later, I said, I have two books in my head.

Can we do two books? And one was the garden. And one was a diamond cutter.

So they came from this book. So anyway, thanks to Rosa. Thanks for getting ready.

And there's a lot of technical stuff in here, like the coding of the coding system. And the storage and the retrieval systems are outlined here in great detail. And they are unprecedented in the history of the capture of literature electronically.

And they haven't changed in 35 years, we found a way to trick the operating system of the computer to store the books. So every computer can, can, you can use this on every computer in the world. And the books live in the operating system.

So they can't be changed. If a nasty party wanted to get into your computer with to the internet and remove certain ideas, or it's not possible. They're built into the architecture of the operating system.

And no one's ever done that. And it's still it's still works because it just you just need an operating system. So you can store it on a Mac or PC, you can store it in the operating system.

And it the internet is very vulnerable. Someone who was unhappy with emptiness could remove all mentions of emptiness from the internet if they had enough power. But they can't remove this.

Okay, it's kind of cool, right? All right, but if you're interested, you can study it. Okay.

And it's, it's, it still works. And we did preserve, we did save that culture. Okay.

So it's kind of they're waiting for the next population that wants to live that culture. And it might be 10 years, and it might be 10,000 years, but the stuff is there. Okay.

So the Irish monks did it again. Okay. All right.

Nick, let's go to your book. All right. All right.

Thank you. Yes. Yeah.

Michael.

[Говорящий 2]
Yeah.

[Говорящий 1]
Homework. Homework. It is.

All right. You try to make it fast. Um, so this is a section that we've covered before, without you in a team class.

And, and the homework is on a section sorry, that we've covered in a team class and then with you in my last class about two months ago with you. And so I tried to make different questions that I made the first time, hopefully more interesting. And these questions are kind of more just for philosophical philosophical pondering more than to be right or wrong.

Could an atomic particle, which the detailers claim is Takpa, and so is not Kechikma, have a state that is changing? What's Takpa? So the reason I'm using the West Chinese words here is because I'm personally confused about how to, given the context, I'm having a hard time knowing what would be the best translation of either of these words for this section.

But Takpa could mean permanent. It could mean unchanging, or perhaps something in between. And Kechikma means a moment or momentary or instant or instant to instant, perhaps.

So what do we think? I kind of want to ask you what, what a state is like, what you mean by state? Yeah, that's a great question too.

And that I'm using as a translation for, oh man, what is the Tibetan word that I'm using there? It's, well, I think what we mean by state is like, it's moment, sorry, it's momentary existence, even in a single moment, is its existence, something which is changing or unchanging. It gets really quiet in this room, I don't know.

It's kind of a hard question to try to answer. It's more like, what did Nagarjuna say about this?

[Говорящий 2]
So are you talking about, for instance, some moment that, of which there is no smaller moment?

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah, something like that. Yeah. That's kind of a problem.

Isn't it? So that's the section we're dealing with. Hold on, I'm going to look at something while you guys think about this for 30 more seconds.

The word that I was using for state here is nekap. Okay, yeah. Nekap, having nekap that is changing.

Yeah, okay. Well, I would say if a single instant of an object cannot change, then the thing couldn't change over a million years either. So a single instant must be changing, I guess.

So let's see what Master Nagarjuna said. Okay. He said, this was his answer.

If the state of something is always, he's basically saying if something is takpa, if something is always the same way, let's say that's what takpa might mean here, the way he's interpreting it. That means that if it were momentary, or sorry, if it were changing, then it would be, if the nekap, the state of it were something that could be changing, then that is a changing thing and so couldn't be takpa. Okay, so it's changing, it's unchanging.

It's changingness couldn't be unchanging because then it would be changing. This is where he went with it. Okay, look in the text if you don't believe me.

I'll start using that one. Okay, if something is, this is maybe slightly easier to ponder. If something is momentary, can it age?

If something is stable and isn't momentary, can it age? Please explain. Momentary meaning kecigma.

Something of a moment, right?

[Говорящий 2]
No older than a moment.

[Говорящий 1]
That's good. Seems right. What if it's stable?

[Говорящий 2]
Then it wouldn't be momentary, would it?

[Говорящий 1]
So can it age? If there is something more, again, with time, if we're dividing time in a different way, then you can say that it ages. Maybe it ages micromoments as opposed to just moments.

If micromoments make up a moment. Okay. Ben is smiling like I'm walking myself into a...

No, it's not true. It's fine. You're just debating against Nagarjuna, but don't.

Yeah. I should probably have coffee before I do that. I'll just give us an answer because of time.

If something is momentary, it doesn't endure for two moments of time, which is what I believe you're getting at, Venerable. So I think that your answer is totally accurate to what the text is saying. It doesn't endure for more than one moment.

So how could it age? And then Nagarjuna also makes the point if something is stable, which I believe here he means to be unchanging. He uses the word tempa.

He says it's not momentary. So how in the world could it age? That's where he says a child could not become a grown-up, or a baby could not grow into a youth.

They can't grow into... Things can't age. Okay, here's a much more straightforward question, just to show us where we left off.

Why don't the Vaishnavites have the problems which arise from investigating the nature of Vishnu? They say it's ancient. Yeah.

Ancient and what? I mean, nyingpa, right? Like beginningless and endless.

Yeah, yeah, good. They say he's beginningless and endless. Our Vishnu is an ancient, unchanging being who neither begins nor ends.

Okay, so that's where we left off. We're just critiquing the Vaishnavites. We're about to.

Okay, the followers of Vishnu. We went back in time. We've kind of been flopping back and forth in this text.

When we do team classes, we had gone a bit further. Okay. And I'm giving you the same vocabulary that we did last time we covered this section because I definitely believe in repetition, at least for myself.

Okay. First one's easy. Word says, don't make no sense.

Good, yes. That's correct. Good, good, good.

This one's kind of fun. Yeah, good. Is that fun?

Yeah. Nice. Okay.

I think there's a raised here somewhere. Okay. Word says permanent and constant.

Yeah, good. Yeah. Yeah.

Nowadays I like the word solid for tear soup. I don't know. Okay, cool.

All right. All right. I did a little bit of attempt at translating.

I have a lot translated actually, but let's just look at a couple paragraphs that- Okay. Away from my screen. How's your missus doing, by the way?

She's doing really well. You know, obviously she had a surgery for everybody who doesn't know. And she's healing really well.

It takes time, but considering- So well that I'm thinking to have holes drilled in all the mixed nuts heads. I've already done it. I'm thinking to have it done the word first and then we'll work on the other translators.

If it helps. I'm living proof that it doesn't work. Yeah, yeah.

Nick had that already. Okay. My friend was saying that Aaron had to one-up me and he was like, I just thought to myself, I was like, oh, she was like holding the head?

Hold my smoothie. Nick had this drilling head operation about 30 years ago? No.

15, 20. Okay. All right.

Didn't work, but it was working out. Okay. It was worth a shot.

All right. Here we go. Okay.

Here's a couple. Here's a couple of sections. I'll read the first one.

Yeah, please. If Vishnu performs a function or if Vishnu is a function? Good.

So this is like an ancient god that was supposedly the creator and destroyer of the earth, okay? And thousands of years ago. So if he does anything, if he could create things, then he must be changing, okay?

If something is momentary, it doesn't endure for two instances of time. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, the real is difficult, right? Yeah. Real means complete or real boo means a pill, but it means a little ball of stuff.

So real means, real real means a complete thing with borders, you know, like that. And so if something is changing moment by moment, it cannot stay over two instants. It cannot spread over two instants in time.

The thing that existed in the first instant cannot exist at the second instant, and the thing that exists in the second instant can no longer be in the first instant. Okay. So if this being, powerful being, is changing instant by instant, then they cannot exist over time.

So yeah. Okay. Yeah, how do you translate the day ni, Nick?

Just to kind of trick you. I was, I think that I was playing with that. And then I said, that same one.

Yeah, good. That's nice. Yeah, that's nice.

That's sensitive to the translation. Yeah, that same thing cannot stay. Good.

There's no such thing. YOD DE MED PA'I LTA RGA LA ZHIG. How about word?

You got LTA RGA LA ZHIG in your head? LTA RGA LA ZHIG. How on earth it means something like that?

LTA RGA LA ZHIG. LTA RGA means Walmart. But not exactly the same spelling.

So LTA RGA LA ZHIG is a translation of an ancient Sanskrit term that means how on earth could it be? It's zounds. Zounds.

How could it be? Okay. Well, then I will take out this.

I wasn't, I was looking for LTA RGA LA ZHIG in dictionaries and I couldn't find it. So you can't find it, no. So this would just be where it has aged, right?

Yeah, you can say how on earth. How on earth could it still be there? It could not.

Okay. All right. There is no such thing I said here.

Good. What's cool about the next section? Nick?

You mean the one down here? Yeah. I'm not sure.

The next section was missing some... From the root text. Yeah, and it was missing in the carving of the tengyur a thousand years ago.

Okay, someone left it out in the carving. The only carving that we have of this ancient text, the translation, was miscarved in the edition that we have used for our whole life. And then John Brady's team, which is about a hundred people typing all day, all year, they had some breaks.

They said, do you have any extra work for us in the breaks? Some of us want to keep working in the breaks. So John and me sent them another tengyur, which is another two hundred thousand pages.

Another version of the tengyur. And they typed it. It took five, six, seven years.

And we checked that version. And the part that was missing in the standard version is in the new version that they typed. And that was from a monastery that was destroyed to the last brick.

That monastery is gone. There's not even a brick left. But the book was saved.

And it was recorded. And so we were so happy that the team had voluntarily typed an extra two hundred thousand pages. They typed it five times.

So you're talking a million pages of typing. And we were so happy that we fundraised for our Christmas bonus. And I'm happy to say that John and his team fundraised a thousand dollars for each typist.

Which for them is something like twenty thousand dollars or something. In their world, that's like twenty thousand dollars. So I'd like to thank John.

And it's because of Nick's text right here. This is where it is. This is where the missing line is.

And we have it. Anyway, they're going to get that on Tsongkapa. December 4th, Tsongkapa Day.

They're going to get a surprise. Eighteen people. And then some of the assistant guys are going to get a smaller bonus for fun.

All right. Those are the monks who are not as good typists as the ladies. Go figure.

It's true. Okay. Okay, Nick.

Can you... You got to choose somebody to read. All right.

Can you guys unmute Duoduo so he can read? Okay. Yes.

Release him from mutation. Can you hear me? Yes.

Okay. You got to play, Nick.

[Говорящий 2]
Okay. Nice.

[Говорящий 1]
Okay, Nick. If, because a functioning thing is stable and so cannot be momentary, ,GAL TE BRTEN PA'I DNGOS PO YIN PA'I PHYIR, ,SKYE GCIG MA MIN NA YANG, ,NA BRTEN NA GNAS PA'I DNGOS PO, How can I say it from an earlier time? ,GCIG GNAS PA'I GNYIS PA, Where we are seated, age.

Okay. There's THAGGALA ZHIG again. ,DNGOS PO NYIN PA LA, ,GYUR BA'I KHYAB PA'I PHYIR RO, Okay.

Cool. All right. Sounds right.

Well, it actually says, the last line says, an old thing, a thing which has aged, should have changed. Okay. That's all.

Oh. ,GNYIS PA LA, ,GYUR BA'I KHYAB PA'I PHYIR RO, Oh, the Khyab is saying, if it's NYIN, it's GYUR. If something got old, it has always changed.

It must have always changed. Okay. Okay.

Cool. See, they want this being to be eternal, but they also say he ages. He lives in time.

He goes from time to time, but still he's unchanging, which is, it's impossible. Yeah. All right.

All right. Next one. Who's going to read, Mr. Nicholas?

I got people here. I got an extra chair. Okay.

I don't know who's there. Do you want to pick somebody? I pick the first one and then they pick the next one.

Sounds great to me. Gibson, let's go. Oh, boy.

Yay. Yay. Let me get a larger cursor.

We're on this one here. Okay. Shibbala.

[Говорящий 2]
Nick, you're correcting, okay?

[Говорящий 1]
Stop him randomly so he doesn't get a big head. Yeah, yeah. Come on, Gibson.

Oh, I can't believe you said that. Okay, good. All right.

Wait a minute. You've got to translate. And don't peek at Nick's translation.

Okay. Okay. Shibbala shi.

The full section in the four parts? Yeah, the fourth section has four parts. So they never repeat what the section is.

They just say number four. So we fill it. Mixed nuts always fill it in.

So the fourth part, as Nick has written here, is the refutation that moments can have any nature of their own. Okay. SKYE GCIG LA CHE GCIG GI KHYAB PA BRTAN PA We're going to, the first of the four parts, we're going to demonstrate that something which is SKYE GCIG.

Momentary. Has to, KHYAB PA, CHA GCIG. Has to have the parts.

Yeah, must have parts. Even if something exists, even for a single instant, millisecond, it still must have parts. Second part.

CHA GCIG.

[Говорящий 2]
The parts?

[Говорящий 1]
Or, CHA GCIG means the whole. Oh, the whole. Okay.

CHA means part. CHA GCIG means the possessor of the parts. And it's the Tibetan way to say whole.

Of the part. The whole. GAG PA, that it could be RANG BZHIN GYI RGYUD PA.

It can have the nature. Yeah, we're going to prove that wholes of parts cannot have their own nature. Okay.

Then we're going to prove, then we're going to GAG PA, that NGOS POs are RANG BZHIN GYI RGYUD PA. And we are going to deny that functional thing is going to have a nature. Of their own.

Could exist through some nature of their own. And we're going to make, we're going to deny that things that do something have any nature of their own. Because we're going to use the CHI TU BDAG GIS BSTAN GRIG.

[Говорящий 2]
One or many reasoning.

[Говорящий 1]
Yeah. It's called the proof of child. It has no one or many.

There is no one or many. Okay. And it's a famous place for misspelling.

Yeah, this is spelled correctly. And on top of that, our author, which is Gyaltsabje, has added DUNG to make it more clear. Okay.

And this is classically misspelled by people. All right. And the fourth part, GYI BSTAN GCIG BSTAN THAG BSTAN DU.

What was the GYI BSTAN? What is the... BUDDHA MISUNG Definition?

Or the reason that Buddha didn't tell? Yeah, he refused to answer a question. He refused to answer 14 questions in his lifetime.

Okay. And one of them was the question, GYI BSTAN THAG? Then or not?

You say I have the border of the world? Yeah, and it means edge. And in this case, it means beginning point and ending point.

Does it have a front end and does it have a back end? Does the universe have a front end and does the universe have a back end? People asked him.

We can't decide, was there a first moment that the universe began? And is there going to be a last moment that the universe ends? And he said...

He refused to answer. He just refused to answer. Because the question was defective.

Okay, no matter what answer he gave, people would misunderstand it. Okay, cool. All right, so those are the parts we're going to have.

I'm looking forward to part four myself because I've been wondering about that recently. Thank you. You got to pick the next victim.

Tim. Tim, okay. All right.

Nick, I'm going to share my screen, right? Yes, sir. Okay, let's get this over here.

This is payback from Gibson. We're not going to read the verse because it comes in the commentary. Okay.

So, let me do one thing. Okay, you got the plane. Nick, you're checking him.

Yes, sir, me and Amalie are going to check him. Try to criticize something. If you don't want to, Amalie can criticize something.

Shoulders down your back, Tim. Okay. What is hair is messy?

That's something new. Okay. Okay, so if something ends in shena, what does it mean, Tim?

If someone were to say. If we say. Okay, so these first two lines is somebody else asking a silly question.

And it always ends with shena, which means, okay, suppose you ask this silly question. They're not silly. They're just wrong.

Okay. But they're good questions. Okay, here's this question.

Okay, ke chik ma ke la ma ga pa. Suppose a ke chik ke. Suppose there's a beginning of a first moment.

Yeah, suppose a millisecond has come into being. Okay. And by the way, this first ma is.

Part of ke chik ma. Yeah, it's part of ke chik ma. It is not a negative.

It's very confusing. Okay. something of a moment starts, but it hasn't yet ended.

If it doesn't stay, du nyipa min dupe, so let's say something has begun but it hasn't stopped yet. If it doesn't last into the next millisecond, it must be changing. Yeah, it must be a moment.

Therefore, de nyi kye chik chik rang shing gi nyepa yin no, therefore it stays for a moment, which remains by nature. Its nature is to remain for a millisecond, okay? The thing has, by the next moment it will have changed, but in this, in the first millisecond it does have a nature, it stays, it stays.

It does have a nature of staying. While it's in that moment. Yeah.

By the way, this kind of millisecond where something doesn't change, and he's trying to say in the first piece of the millisecond it doesn't change, that would require something with no front end and no back end. Because the front end would have to be the back end. It's like the front bumper of the car would have to be the back bumper of the car if there was no car between, okay?

If there is a car between, then it has pieces. Then it has close to the front bumper piece and it has a close to the back bumper piece, okay? So if this thing has any duration, it can be broken into smaller pieces.

If it lasts for any time at all, then it can be broken into smaller pieces, and then it's not a moment in time anymore. It has a front end that comes before the back end. If it doesn't have a front end that comes before the back end, then the front end is the back end, and there's no width, there's no length to the car.

It doesn't exist. There's a problem if the car has any length, and there's a... because then you can split it again and it's not a smallest moment of time.

And if it has zero length between the front bumper and the... if the front bumper is the back bumper, then you have a trouble saying there's a car, okay? Either way, there's a problem.

Human beings don't think right. Human mind does not work right, and it's proven in the idea of time. The idea of time proves that human beings cannot think right.

Why? Is there a smallest moment of time? Yes.

Does it have a front end? Yes. Does it have a back end?

Yes. Then it's not the smallest, because you could divide it. Okay, so my smallest moment of time, the front end is the back end.

Well, good, but then it's not there, okay? And those are the only two choices that a human mind can entertain, and they're both wrong, and we must be seeing the world wrong. We must have some natural problem in our mind, okay?

That's what Nagarjuna is trying to get to. Both choices are impossible, and we... everything is built on that.

Everything we do is built on that, and it's wrong. It's mistaken. Okay, you want to read one more, Timothy?

No. Amalie wants to read. Amalie, when you wake up, you're supposed to open your eyes.

I told you last time I was there. Hehehe. Hehehe.

Can Jaru read something, Amalie? Can Jaru read? What?

No, I'm just kidding. Okay, okay, okay. I forget that one.

Hey, where can I? Yeah. That moment must have parts, right?

JI LTAR SKAD CIG MA That SKAD CIG MA, which means what? That moment. Yeah, that instant, that millisecond in time.

Does it have CHA SHES? Does it have parts? Yeah, does it have parts?

For example, is there a back end? Is there a later piece of the millisecond? If there's no later piece and earlier piece inside the millisecond, then it cannot exist.

There has to be a part of the millisecond which is closer to the old millisecond, and there has to be a part of the millisecond which is closer to the next millisecond, or else the millisecond has no width, and then it doesn't exist. So he says, does your millisecond have pieces? We say, well, what do you mean, what kind of piece?

Does it have a CI LTAR? Does it have a back end, which is closer to the millisecond of the next moment? Is there a part of your millisecond which is closer to the millisecond of the next moment?

We say, he says, SKAD LEN. Yeah, sure, it has a back end. CI LTAR YOD And then, because you accepted a back bumper, you got to accept a THOG MAR, a front bumper, which is closer to the past.

There's part of the millisecond which is closer to the past, and there's a separate part of the millisecond which is closer to the future, or else the millisecond has no width, and it has no duration, and it has no time. So even a millisecond has to have some fact on it. We've got a front end and a back end.

Not only that, it has an U. It has a middle too. Yeah, it has a middle.

So now it's got three parts. There's the beginning of the millisecond, there's the middle of the millisecond, and then there's the end of the millisecond. And then it bumps into the front end of the next millisecond.

Okay, right? Okay, YOD PAR THOG CING THOG means to analyze or to view it. You, Ke Lan.

Have to accept it. Yeah, so Nying, when your guy speaks, so this is a style of commentary where they weave the ancient book into their commentary. So the bold letters are the ancient book by Arya Nagarjuna, and the rest is the commentary by Gyaltsab Che 1200 years later.

Okay, so he's weaving, and it's kind of a show-off thing. You weave Nagarjuna into your commentary. And then the reader is supposed to figure out where's Nagarjuna.

And it's a mixed nuts standard that we put the ancient book in bold. So visually you can see how he has woven Nagarjuna into his explanation, very skillfully and very beautifully. Then to translate that is a challenge.

So why I'm saying that, Nick, is that BRTOG, Gyaltsab Che says it should be read as Ke Lan. BRTOG means to analyze, but Gyaltsab Che says here you have to read it as accept. Accept, okay.

Accept what? Hundred dollar question. Accept what?

Nagarjuna said you have to examine it this way. Gyaltsab Che said he means you have to accept something about it. That a partless changing thing is impossible.

Well, word is sitting here, Nick, and he got the money already. I think he said he's giving it to any daughter who's sitting close to him or something like that. I don't know.

All right. Yeah, okay. Yeah, you have to accept that even a millisecond should have three parts, which means it's not a very good millisecond anymore.

BYANG MED KYIS DNGOS PO MI SRID PA'I PHYIR A changing thing without parts is impossible. Yeah, there's no such thing as a changing thing without parts. Why?

Because if it has a beginning, it's got a... I mean, if it exists, it's got a beginning and an end. It's got an end, and if it has an end, it's got a beginning and a middle.

Yeah, okay. Basically, if there's a cause and effect relationship, if one thing causes another thing, they have to be like bumper cars at the carnival. They have to bump into each other.

And if they have no edges, they can't bump into each other. If you say something caused something else, there must be a front end of the cause, and a back end of the cause. There has to be, if it's going to change something else.

If it's exactly overlapped with the other thing, it can't change it. See what I mean? If they're two fat guys sitting in the same chair, they have to be one fat guy.

Okay, all right. You can quote me later, Nate, on my epitaph. My teacher said two fat people can't sit in the same chair.

All right, Tim's going to choose the next victim. I'll point it to you, yeah. Okay, Tracy, come on.

By the way, if you say that there's this whole big question about one atom affecting another atom, they have to have a front end and a back end, then what's the fourth part of this coming up section? Do you remember? What was the last part of the coming up section?

Oh, Buddha wouldn't answer the question. Yeah, somebody asked Buddha, does the world have a front end? Forget atoms.

Does the whole existence of the universe have a front end and a back end? And Buddha's like... Okay.

All right, please read, Tracy. Nick's going to correct you, or Amalie, doesn't matter. Okay.

GYIS BDAG NI YIN PA'I PHYIR Good, nice, okay. So, BDAG NI generally means like self-nature or something like that, but sometimes it means a combination of multiple things. A combination of multiple parts.

So, sometimes when you're translating, you shouldn't read BDAG NI as self-nature or something like that. It just means a combination of multiple things. So, let's read it that way.

DE LTAR NUS BYAS KYI JI RTEN CHOS CAN Let's consider JI RTEN. Loka? What's that?

Loka? What's Loka? Yeah, the world.

It means the shining orb. Okay. Loka came into lucid and lux and words for light.

Okay. The ancient is roj. The R's and L's are interchangeable.

So, NUS BYAS KYI JI RTEN Take the world of the NUS and the CHOS. What's that? The vessel and its inhabitants, meaning the world itself and then the people within it.

Yeah, the world and the people walking around on the world, and animals. That's called the vessel and the contents. Okay.

So, let's consider the world, both as a vessel and the contents of that vessel, which is all the living creatures on it. It must be the case, LTA'O, that they do not NEPA. They do not stay.

Don't stay. Even one ke ching. Moment.

Yeah. The people crawling around on the world, in the world that they're crawling around on, cannot stay for a millisecond. Not possible.

Why? Because each one of them is made of three parts. Therefore, they cannot crawl around on the world.

Okay. You cannot say that they... You cannot point to a millisecond in which rabbits and humans are walking around on this planet, because each one of those would always be splittable into three.

Okay. Front end, back end. There's a part of the rabbit that's closer to the future, and there's a part of the rabbit that's closer to the past, and there's got to be something in between because the two bumpers don't touch on the car.

Okay. All right. Which proves there's no such thing as time.

Hmm. Or space. Okay.

Beauty of Nagarjuna. Yeah, and it just doesn't make sense. All our concepts of space and time, I mean, they just don't make sense.

So something's wacky, something's weird, something's wrong. Okay. And Nagarjuna, just over and over, he says, before we get to what's right, do you admit that something's wrong?

Do you admit that what you see is impossible? Because the front end of a millisecond can't touch the back end of the millisecond because it's got to have some time. Therefore, every millisecond is three parts, therefore it's not a millisecond, it's three pieces of time.

Because it's got to have a front end and a back end because there's a piece of it that's closer to the future and there's a piece of it that's closer to the path, and they don't overlap. If they overlap, then the thing has no width. There's no time.

It doesn't make sense. Your perception of time and space are illogical and indefensible, cannot be defended. If you just think about it for two minutes, okay, and he spent his whole life trying to convince people, and they all thought he was crazy.

All right. Who's going to read next, Tracy? Joe.

Joe. Joe? Joe?

Joe. Joe. Hey, Joe, where you going with that?

All right. By the way, in two minutes, Nick will lead a discussion of how the heck can you use this class in your normal life? Good luck, Nick.

Okay. Togta. Hey, Joe.

Hey, Joe. Togta. Togta.

Dusum.

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Dusum.

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Dusum. Soram. Soram.

Shingi. Shingi. Nei.

Nei. So. Shena.

Nice. You know what happens when you do it correctly? I get to go home?

No. You can do more until you make a mistake, so that you always make the mistake. You want to do this long one?

Sure. Yeah. Okay.

Go slow. Take your time. Kejikma.

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De. Tokma. Dang.

Dudang. Udang. Tama.

Yang. Chu. Chen.

Rangshen. Gangla. Ganglei.

Keng. Rang. Shinki.

Kee. Nae-.

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Keewa should be?

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Keewa?

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Oh, there we go.

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Okay. Yay!

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Okay. Uncle Nick, do you want to work on this? Sure, yeah, yeah.

So the beginning of a moment and the middle of a moment and the end of a moment. Good. Let's consider those three parts.

Okay, good. RANG BZHIN GANG LAS KYANG RANG BZHIN KYI GNAS PAR. From, they don't, from themself or something else.

Good, okay. RANG BZHIN GANG LAS KYANG RANG BZHIN KYI GNAS PAR. They do not stay nor start through their, through some nature of their own, of being themself or something else.

Right, because if you examine CHA YOD or ME Because if you examine whether or not they have parts. Even in a single millisecond. And then now he's being a little bit cute, Nick.

He says SAB PA CHEN NA. Oh, like if you think of, if you think about it. Yeah, if you would please think about it.

If you thought of it for a second, you would understand that it's got a THOG MA and an ATAR. Yeah, that each of those three, right, has a beginning, a middle, and an end. Yeah, if you just thought about it for 10 seconds, you understand that even the shortest period of time is not the shortest period of time, because it's got to have a front end and a back end.

And if you've got a front end and a back end, you got to have a body to hold the butt and the head. Okay, so every, every existing piece of time has three parts. And so none of them is the shortest piece of time.

Cannot be. There is no shortest piece of time. If you don't have a shortest piece of time, how do you make eons?

Mm-hmm. Quick question, Geshe Michael. Yeah.

Is that paragraph saying that each of those parts has their own beginning, middle, and end, like the beginning has its end? Yeah, it is, because of his CHOD CHEN, because of his example. Right, that's what I thought.

Okay. He opened the argument by saying, let's consider the front end, the back end, and the middle. Each of them has a front end, back end, and the middle, and then it just keeps going on like that.

Okay, we got to stop there, Nick. I'm disappearing. Go sit with me, honey bunny.

And you got to translate the sentence that starts with di dak gi, or you can have Amalie do it. And then you got to translate. I think you should do the whole thing down to the chen juk, to Bodhisattva Charyavatara.

Okay? Okay. Yeah, it's like six short sentences.

Okay? I'm definitely going to have Amalie do all that. That's too much.

Yeah, have Amalie do it. Translate this Tibetan stuff. All right, Nick, I'm disappearing.

You lead a discussion, okay? Thank you, Geshe Michael. Thank you very much.

I appreciate this class. It's very amazing. Thank you, everybody.

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Is it the end of that?

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It's not the end yet, because Daddy's going to lead a discussion for 12 minutes about how to think about this in a way that it can help us in our lives. And you're allowed to chime in as well, Amalie. We're talking about, well, Nagarjuna's, for me, the most useful about this has been Nagarjuna's approach to analyzing reality and how his main thing, at least for me, that he's done in life is to show us that the way that our minds are able to, the best we can do in terms of our minds, understanding the world is not very good.

Like Nagarjuna is showing us that like, everything that we think has some sort of reality and solidity to it, Yes, you may try talking, but not till after I'm done talking. I'm talking about Nagarjuna here. Okay.

Thank you. Everything that we think is real, based on the way we perceive it, is logically impossible. And in terms of practicality, I think that that is the most practical thing I've ever heard any philosopher say.

And I've studied some philosophy, both Eastern and Western, and a lot of it's pretty useful, and a lot of it's really not. But I have found that this idea, and especially Nagarjuna's very famous description of how cause and effect are impossible because they never touch each other. It's the most incredible lesson I've ever learned in life.

So while I can't necessarily or easily think, personally, think of something right in this moment that's going to apply to how I approach my day, how am I going to calm myself down if I get angry or something? I don't necessarily think that could help. I think in the long run, this is the most incredible proof.

Just because if I deep down have been convinced logically that the world as I see it cannot exist the way I see it, then I'm never going to be 100% convinced of the things that make me angry, that they're real, the way that I think they are, or that anything exists the way I think it is. And while Nagarjuna's proof doesn't necessarily show us how it is exactly that things do exist, it certainly shows us that the way that we're so convinced, so, so convinced they do exist is actually impossible. And that's enough for me to approach life with a sense of wonder and mystification.

You know, how you could apply what you just said is use it as a tool to always be ready to be tricked. So you can't be fooled. You can know that appearances are not what they seem and I'm ready for it.

You can't trick me. I'm going to analyze what's going on rather than react to apparent reality. I'm trying to do that.

Thanks for the reminder to do it for me too. Yeah. I have a hard time sometimes, but definitely there's an openness.

I feel like there's a certain kind of childlike openness and approach to the world not being solid is something that's going to continue to help me and keep me young in a way, you know, just not getting so set and thinking things are a particular way. Thank you for sharing Venerable.

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Nick, may I?

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Please, please.

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Thank you. Thank you so much. I hope Erin recovers well.

Thank you for translating this text. Thank you all the translators. So I have a story that just came to my mind when the discussion, your first discussion started and then later when they used the example about the two fat people, it came back.

So I remember like, I don't know, 10 years ago that our dear teacher, Jigme, she came to Guadalajara and I told her, Oh Jigme, you look, you look thinner. You look very, very nice. And she said, what?

Just your seeds for seeing me better have changed. So that was for me, like Nagarjuna talking to me in a very practical way. And every time a judgment on someone arises, I remember her.

I remember like, there's not such thing of seeing someone more beautiful or more generous or the opposite. There's only my seeds or it's either improving or getting worse, but it's, there cannot be such thing of the identity or the form that I think I'm perceiving. It's only my mind.

If I'm, if it's kind enough, it will project a beautiful thing in that instant. And if it's not, well, I there's work to do. So thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you for sharing. Nice to see you.

It's been a long time. Yeah. I think that this idea, I mean, that's what I was going to say about Nagarjuna too.

It's just that while he may not show us exactly how our mind is, he may not be in that moment showing us exactly how our mind is projecting things. It's definitely proving that things are a projection of our mind one way or another. Would you like to say something Amalie?

She likes to tell me she's going to say something, but then she chokes. Nick, I was thinking that this undermining of our ideas of the world is useful to us because it's a bad system. And when we're all taught a bad system for taking care of each other or for the world looking out for one another, then deep down in your heart, you won't believe it.

People become nihilistic or they become selfish because the system that we're taught that's supposed to mean we should look out for each other. I just got to talk you into it, or I just have to convince the world of this, or I have to be lucky enough to find the right circumstances. It's a bad system.

It doesn't work. And somewhere inside of us, I think we feel that and we know that. And then people, they give lip service to some kind of morality, but they don't mean it in their heart because they were taught a stupid system.

And so to be able to say out loud, this is a stupid system, as opposed to this understanding that I can't help but see the way things are based on the shape of my heart, based on the shape of my mind. I am trapped in this reality of my making. And then because of that, the world is infinitely changeable, could look an infinite number of different ways, not because it just really is that way from its own side, which is stupid.

It's stupid. And I think at the bottom of people's heart, they feel that. And so they don't understand why to take care of it.

They don't see the power of taking care of each other because they weren't taught good reasons. And so Nagarjuna, in a way, he's giving lip service to what any smart person is going to eventually start to run into, that there's a problem with what we were taught. And this prepares us for this answer that every time we act in the world, it's not that we talk the world into something or we jimmy the world into being in some situation we want it to be out there.

We're jimmying our hearts. We're changing the shape of our experience, which is our reality. And then that finally makes sense.

And then we can act with conviction. And then we know why taking care of people works. And so, yeah, I think people get into this, whatever, this abstract philosophical, whatever, we're taking this apart, we're taking that apart.

It's all trippy and weird, but we're taking apart the BS that we were fed that would never work. And Nagarjuna is preparing us to understand the power of taking care of each other. Yeah.

Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. I relate to a lot of what you're saying.

I go back to my youth and think about how rebellious I always felt. And when I discovered this kind of system of teaching and started studying with all of y'all, I realized this is the ultimate form of rebellion. And this is kind of what I was always looking for as a rebellious youth.

And I think it's really cool. Just a second, my angel. And so it is.

I agree with you. It's like a bad system, maybe like the Electoral College kind of. Something that we should maybe we've learned to deal with and start to reject.

And it's a really beautiful kind of rebellion that I think maybe most of us or all of us have kind of known deep down inside. And that's why we've been attracted to, you know, spend time sitting on Zoom, listening to these old, amazing ideas. It's just about time for the Peachtree World News with our resident anchor Juan Paso.

Does anybody want to add any closing thoughts? Yes, Amalie, would you like to add something to this discussion? OK.

OK, just a minute. All right, Juan, I think we're ready for you, sir. So I love to hear Juan delivering the Peachtree World News.

And thank you so much, Geshe Michael, for this amazing class and for the chance to study these beautiful texts. It's truly an honor and I hope we don't disappoint. There we go.

Oh, good morning, everyone. Thank you for coming. I want to first thank Geshe Michael and Veronica because it was their idea to have something like this, a program.

So thank you so much for your inspiration and support. So hope you enjoy. Today, I want to welcome, of course, Chloe as well.

She has been very, very helpful. Thank you so much for your help over the years. Well, we are about to turn two years that this thing started.

And it's funny, I was talking with, I don't think, Francisco, I think that he said like, wow, you're the only person who has to celebrate five New Years in two years. It's funny because this is a Chinese New Year and we have anyways. And Chloe has helped us so much.

And I think your producer career is growing a lot. Yeah. And not only because she helped us, but also because now you're helping many other organizations and you are doing your own programs or your own activities, which I really admire.

So thank you so much for everything you're doing.

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You're welcome. My pleasure. Thank you.

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And can you can you introduce our guest today, please?

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All righty. So welcome to Peachtree World News. Today, we are in Sedona, we are having a YSI program.

YSI is Yoga Studies Institute. And we have Connie, my teacher, Michael, as the mean teacher and also Earl is the mean teacher for this class. Not mean.

Earl has opened my heart to the teaching on Yoga Sutra. And since then, I haven't been able to not come to YSI teaching. So.

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So. Thank you. Thank you.

Very welcome. And thank you, by the way, for everything you're doing. It has been Benji was asking me, how are you liking it?

And I say very much. Thank you. Cool.

Welcome. Like Chloe was saying, we're in the tail end of the Hatha Yoga Pradipika. This is the fourth and last chapter.

Geshe Michael has taken us through the whole text now of the, you know, one of the one of the greatest texts ever written. And thank you, Geshe-la, for teaching that once again. And we wanted to commemorate the conclusion of this course with a special book, a memento, something to continue the study.

You know, Geshe Michael will finish teaching it, but we shouldn't just forget it. You know, at the end of the week, you know, these are texts we study and practice for a lifetime. Because they're the the text that lead us to the result.

It's not just some intellectual thing that we finish and, you know, these things we have to put in our heart and we put it in our heart through practice. So we wanted a very special version and we do it as a, you know, opportunity for people to help support YSI. So we've got a very special style of book.

There's a very special covering that goes with it. Two ways you can get one of these. Three of them are going to be sold as an auction.

Those come with a special covering. Yesterday, Geshe Michael wrote a personal message on those three. They're all also signed by Geshe Michael.

So three of them are going to be auctioned. Those have a special wrap with a special message for you. The highest bid so far is a thousand dollars.

So we have three of those. So as of now, you could get the second one for substantially less than a thousand. And then, you know, they're created in a very special way that allows you to memorize them.

They're in the, whatever, we're going to print these in whatever language you want, as long as that's in one of seven languages. This example is the English, the Devanagari, and then the pronunciation, so that we can learn to, we were talking about Nara Yoga yesterday, and how the chanting of the, speaking the Sanskrit languages affects the inner body. And that in itself is a way to bring us to the core.

So really a special text, a beautiful way to, you know, I have these at home on my shelf, and they're a great resource and a great way for me to remember what I'm trying to do with my life, the big picture. And there we go.

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Yeah, I get one.

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How much? Surprise. There's the auction, unknown price, and then to purchase them, gosh, do you remember?

$5.99. The highest auction price also gets a special book holder that was spent time with Geshe Michael and spent time with Venerable Jigme. They can now spend time with you. Okay.

Heck yeah, Connie said, can you go higher than a thousand? Would you like to? So there's a bid of $1,500 from a guy that understands text and textual preservation.

Thank you. Welcome. Okay.

Would you, Chloe, like to introduce our next guest?

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Oh, I see one person in the menu dressed up really nice. Welcome, Rob Hegarty.

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Yeah, Chloe, I think I want to just quickly give the audience a context. I was in the bathroom the other day. Swan, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

No, no, let me tell you, let me tell them, conversations are not appropriate. All right. All right.

Anyway. Go ahead. Rob, go ahead.

Sorry, go ahead. It's good that you're here. Let's put it that way.

You will help me. But anyway, it's Rob Hegarty here. Let me tell them, you call me.

He is like, cancel everything. I have big news. I'm like, come on, Rob, you cannot do this to me.

Breaking news. And then he say, like, we are going to do it. We're going to do it well, and we're going to do it tomorrow.

So here we are. And first, I would like to ask you if you can share a little bit of how's been your experience since you move back to perform these wonderful tasks that you're doing, basically the schedule and taking care of Michelin, you know? Yeah, it's been amazing.

Thanks, Swan and Chloe. And thanks, YSI, for giving us the time to do this stuff during your program. Yeah, life has been just extraordinary, actually.

I love we were just in San Diego for vacation and vacation. Sorry, operation. It was an operation.

Anyway, I went up. I only have one time to close shop, and it's usually if Geshe-la is sleeping or recovering. So I went on my bike to a store, and I always ask questions wherever I go.

Oh, what do you do? Tell me more about your life. So I had to go next door to grab a surfboard.

And I came back, and the ladies are waving me down in the parking lot. And I was like, come here. And they're like, what do you do?

And, you know, I never have a straight answer. It's depending upon who I speak to, basically. And it's such a great conversation starter because I think and what I found is when I run into people, it's like inspiring for their own life or whatever path they're on to want to sort of like be the best they can be or change maybe or pivot their direction.

And so I think the biggest impact for me is that I'm seeing how it's affecting the people in my life and those people I run into. Thank you so much. And actually, I also want to extend my personal thanks because you have helped me a lot, and you are still helping me a lot.

And you give me good advice. Sometimes you are difficult to convince otherwise, but I do appreciate. Also, very much your friendship, like having fun together.

Yeah, same, same. All right, thank you. No, no, come on.

You're about to tell us why you were so, how to say, determined that it's very important to talk about something that I don't really know what it is yet. But I trust you. Yeah.

Is Juan, are you single? What was the question? It is not the question.

Depends who's asking, bro. I don't know, like, are you asking for yourself or what? I was just kidding.

I am. I am asking for myself, actually. Yeah, I am.

Um, no, actually. So we actually finished Getchy Michaels, finally 2025 schedule, which is a huge, huge undertaking. And honestly, I think about two days ago, all the leadership finally kind of agreed to their dates.

And I hit, I uploaded it to the, we have a kind of like a private calendar, which the people who are leading all the programs have access to. And then I like went into the shower and like almost sort of bawling because it's so emotional to be honest with you to do the whole thing. Like to put yourself in somebody else's shoe, shoes and sort of every decision that we make is impacting, you know, Kesla, Veronica, their families and their lives and who they see.

And then all the students in the world. And it's kind of like, it didn't dawn on me how much it affected others, I think. And it was just a little overwhelming when I finished it and finally uploaded it.

And I was a little afraid to upload it because I just didn't want people to know and because I knew of the impact. And so that comes in a few parts. One is there's a, the people who run the programs, Tim, Connie, Stanley Allison, CG.

There's a private calendar, which lists Kesla sort of like day-to-day, everyday activities, doctor's appointments, whatever we have to do. And then there's a public calendar. So we have two versions.

One is, which is, if the Google platform is available in your, where you guys are at, we have one of those. And then one that's mostly for people who are, I think we use Outlook. Is that correct?

Yeah. So those two are going to release on Monday. So you have to come to Peachtree News on Monday in order to get access to those two.

And we just want to make sure that it's all sort of cleaned up for that. So yeah, that's pretty much it. Okay.

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Can you teach us or let us know some of the basic like rules or like how you do it? Like basically how many hours Kesla can teach? Like, how do you do it?

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Yeah, good question. So starting this year, we've actually scaled back. Originally we've asked each organization to scale back 12%.

And so it doesn't necessarily mean that the program is shorter. It just means that his time is 12% less. And then that program will sort of move up technically 12%.

And we had a meeting a week ago and everyone agreed to do another 10%. So everyone's backed out 22%. So it doesn't impact the length of a program.

But it's giving an opportunity for, you know, the rising stars, essentially. That's what you always say in my company, like, who are your rising stars? And giving them an opportunity to sort of like be out in the forefront now.

So that's a huge deal. Next year, Kesla will be teaching, when it does two classes, for example, one will be 75 minutes, probably with a Q&A. And the second one will be 60 minutes.

So that was sort of, we won't be doing any more than two classes per day, period. And then what are some other things to know? Do not call or email Geshe Michael before 11 a.m. He has a personal practice from 6 a.m. to 11 a.m. He does his personal practice and personal translation. So if you want him to stop those things, you should email him and text him in the morning before 11.

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So personal time. Yeah, personal, private, personal time.

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Which all of you should figure out how to incorporate into your own lives. I mean, figure out what time works for you best. And then maybe incorporate that into what you do.

What else? And then three hours per day is prep time. So 6 to 11 is a personal practice.

And then three hours of that day, if there's an upcoming program, he'll be doing three hours per day for that. And then he'll be doing 1.5 hours a day for exercise. And then that does not include time with his wife.

So the day is super packed from beginning to end. And so we're trying to reflect that in the schedule so that when you, oh, here's an important one. And I got this from Monica.

Please ask yourself, can this meeting be an email? Which I love that. So, you know, it's just sort of being aware of other people's time and stuff.

And so, yeah. Okay, Rob. Thank you very much.

Thank you for everything you're doing. Hope you keep doing it for many, many, many, many years. Thank you for your personal help.

And thank you all. Thank you so much, Veronica as well. And YSI.

Thank you so much.

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I have a question.

[Говорящий 1]
Have fun. See you. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

What's coming up? Is there a New Year's Eve show coming up? Is there like a, yeah.

Yes. New Year's Eve. We are planning a special program party where we are going to celebrate the worldviews pretty much and how we are starting to interact more with each other.

Yesterday, it was very cool. We had a meeting with, where is she? At Rachel and Sam's house.

And it was very cool. I was joking, like, it's like the Italian family meetings, like Uncle Tim from Sicily and Uncle Rob from Irish lands. And, you know, the New York cousins and the Mexican side of family all together to see the ongoings of the business.

So thank you so much. It's so fun to be around you. It's so fun to be here.

Are we inviting different organizations to send in a video to show us so we can rejoice? Yes. This year?

Yes. And we will let you know more about that. And you are all invited.

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Yay. Thank you so much.

[Говорящий 1]
And I guess where people is always welcome. Remember to go to the Peachtree Cafe. Best coffee in town.