Ник Лашо — Книга 2: Ратнамала, занятие 15

[Speaker 1]
Oh, it is Monday? Today is Monday. Okay, I'll be right there.

One second. He thought it was casual Friday. Oh.

So we're having a little bit of technical difficulties. If you guys want to start the homework, then we'll be joining in a second. Whose class is it?

Nick's. Oh, well. We just vamp for a while.

Yeah. Yeah, great. Good.

Now I'm ready. Wow, much better. All right, I find that quiz.

It's easy to find, it's right there. Oh, he's doing a quiz, we can fart around. Yeah, you guys can mess around all you want.

It's an easy quiz today. Yeah, don't get your hopes up. I know.

I know. I've learned my lesson one too many times. Can you guys see my screen?

Yes. Okay. How does GeltZubJ describe...

This question's a little harder. How does GeltZubJ describe the wrong way of making a living that we call baiting? And if nobody remembers, which I could understand, I'll give you a hint.

Let's see, who are my usuals? Utpala, Tim, Oscar.

[Speaker 2]
I think this is the one that you give something like cheap, hoping that the sponsor gives you something better.

[Speaker 1]
That's a good guess. I would have thought that too. But this was the one that involved Brad Pitt.

Do you remember that? Anybody? The name dropping one?

The Chema? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do you remember the whole thing? No.

[Speaker 2]
You say that Brad Pitt gives you something, so another person thinks like, oh my God, even Brad Pitt gives them something. So I should give them something as well because they may be very important.

[Speaker 1]
Good, good, good, good, good. And I like how you emphasize your words. Tomato soup, that's amazing.

Wow, I like that.

[Speaker 2]
I got my own.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, thank you, Amelie. I'm working right now. Do you want to come say hi?

Do you want to come say, bye Amelie, have a good time. No, that's a no. Okay, I'll see you later, baby.

She's wearing a crown. She's going for a haircut and she's got a tiara on. See you, see you later, see you later, Angel.

Okay. Baiting is when you talk about how you've refused gifts from big important celebrities are such and such a king and present yourself as if you are a high object for making offerings. Cool.

Anybody want to take a shot at Niepa Tsova? It's way easier than what you think, as you can see here. And there's a hint.

[Speaker 3]
I know it says literal.

[Speaker 2]
That's not that you can tell from my very, very worth it. Or it's always like, I don't know, it's related to solve one day or no.

[Speaker 1]
It means baiting. It's the name of baiting. I said that.

Oh, you did? Yeah. Well, you have to say it out loud.

You can't just say it in your head. Your internet's breaking up a little bit. Or maybe mine is.

Okay, maybe it was that. Okay. What does good Jin mean?

And what are three things? What three things does gossip Jin make a point that it is referring to? To give respectful.

Good. Can you guys hear a word? Because I'm not hearing him, but it sounds like he was saying more.

Oh, I didn't hear anything there. No. Just assume he got it right and give him the money.

Yeah, right.

[Speaker 2]
That's true.

[Speaker 1]
I didn't say anything else. I just ordered you flowers, because I think you have enough money. So I sent you a bouquet.

Thanks. I like red.

[Speaker 2]
You have to give shelter with respect. It's about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You have to be Dharma. What was the other one? Stop.

Actually, shelter.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Sang sing. Yeah, good stuff.

Dharma and protection.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, it was weird that he didn't say love, right?

[Speaker 1]
He didn't. No, he referred to. He just had these three for this one.

How does Gelt Subject qualify Chippa? What does Chippa mean? Wait.

Wait. Nobody said worthy of offerings.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, good.

[Speaker 1]
Making offerings to people who are worthy of offerings. Offer to the offer worthy. Yeah, they offer.

And then how does he qualify it? Anybody remember?

[Speaker 2]
Oh, yeah. Something related to. They have to be something has to make them special.

No, even like the level of their needs could be making them special.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, I guess Michael said that. But that's a great answer. I'll take it.

He actually maybe qualify wasn't the right word. He gives a couple examples. Our vow masters and people who are distinguished by their good qualities.

This one, I think, is easy. I made a question for because I thought these were easy, but I was wrong. How does what does Gelt Subject add to the practice of Jampa?

[Speaker 3]
And the other four and the other three infinite thoughts.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, good. Which are?

[Speaker 3]
Mudita, Troy. Um. And.

[Speaker 2]
I don't know.

[Speaker 3]
Give them to me in Tibetan. Oh, boy. Seeing everyone as the same and the love they need.

Mudita, joy. I don't know. Some kind of bliss or happiness.

And then why am I blank? What's the last one? It's Karuna.

Oh, yeah. The one I need most. Compassion.

[Speaker 1]
Having a kid will help with that. Geshe-la, is it true Mudita is. Did you translate it or did they translate it as Dewa?

No, I don't think so. It's a joy, right? Gawa, it's Gawa.

Gawa. Yeah. I think.

I'll look it up later. I'll look it up after class. OK.

It's a kind of myth no more. OK. So I did some translating as you told me to.

I think. First parts were seemed easier. The latter parts seemed like there's no way I got it right.

But let's see. OK. Here's the third.

Tsumbani. Yeah, the translation looks OK. But the verse, right?

Uh-huh. Yeah. DOR NA CHEN NI TE YIN NO.

Good. In brief, these are the teachings to follow. And then here's Gyaltsabje.

DOR NA NGON DO'I RGYU'I CHEN NI CHUD RIG PO TE YIN NO. In summary, these 16 practices are the causes of higher rebirths. Good.

OK. All right. OK.

Yeah, good. OK. And then this is.

I got confused about your note here. Well, the 16 are the sum of these two. Uh-huh.

OK. OK. Got it.

And that's why you get to 16. I see. 13 are things you shouldn't do.

And if you don't do them, you get to the higher realms. And three of them are things that you should do. And if you do do them, you get to the higher realms.

How's that? Right. The Jigpre Chosun.

OK. And then we move into a new section. A demonstration that these are not found in any system other than this one.

And here's Gyaltsabje. NYID PA LA GSUM LAM KHOL PAR ZHUGS PA'I RANG GZHAN LA NUS PA THANG KHOL PAR DRO BA'I GANG ZHAGS THANG KHOL PAR ZHUGS PA'I NYES MIGS SO OK. The second has two parts.

Uh, by the way, as usual, when you're translating, I always prefer to insert the second rather than say, you see what I mean? Oh. Right?

Uh, well, I usually put it as the title. Oh, yeah. Oh, OK.

I would still put it below. But, uh, OK. OK, I'll put it.

I'm gonna have to redo the whole text. Actually, what I do is I make sexy titles that are short and sweet. You see what I mean?

I would reduce it to four or five words. And then it, as a header, this is too long. Yeah.

And so, as in the headers, you have poetic license somewhat. See what I mean? Yeah.

Headers should be cool. All right. Uh.

OK. Practicing this. Uh.

I would have put a description of how practicing. You see what I mean? Mm-hmm.

I know what you mean. I wasn't sure because it usually says that, like tenpa at the end, and it didn't say it this time. Yeah, that's true.

He did not. And just because he usually does. Yeah.

Feel empowered to just add it in. But yeah, it's a call. The English reads weird without it, right?

Yeah. A description of how practicing mistaken paths harms ourselves and others. People that go astray and have problems with practicing mistakenly.

Mistaken paths, really, right? Well, if it were me, I would have tried to catch the cold paw with the same word in each of the three sections. Yeah, I did.

I did it and then I deleted it and wrote go astray, but I will. OK. And I, yeah, something like that.

Yeah, I would make them the same and slightly different. Uh-huh. OK.

OK, I'll play with it. Oh. OK.

The only suggestion I have is lu basik, OK? Oh, yeah. So the pre-nasal for a bee is also a labial.

Bee comes from your lips, so the pre-nasal comes from your lips. MBH. You can get a MBH at DSEU, by the way.

OK. I would work on the prose before I would work on the verse. You see what I mean?

Let's do it. Just as a policy. Because the divisions here are a little strange.

OK. Please read. KA THUB KYIS.

Oh, yeah. KA THUB KYIS LUS DUNG BA LA SOGS PA YANG LAM DUD NDOD PA MIN NAM GZHAN NA. KA THUB KYIS LUS DUNG BA LA SOGS PA YANG LAM DUD NDOD PA MIN NAM GZHAN NA.

I'm ready to get slapped for writing the word austerity, but I just. I don't mind. Oh, I'll slap you next time I see you.

Just kidding. KA THUB KYIS. Aren't things like terminating our bodies as practices of austerity something that we should start trying to patch?

Someone may wonder. I want you to catch the yang. Oh, I know.

Um, are things like terminating our bodies? It's even, right?

[Speaker 2]
It should be an even.

[Speaker 1]
No, he just presented 16 practices together. And now this guy's saying, hey, but can't we do this one also? Maybe it's 17.

OK. Don't you agree that, OK, good, that's all. That these are also ways we can get to, you know.

Aren't these also a practice of the path? You didn't list them in your 16. OK.

And he's, that's the, that's the segue to talking about mistaken practices, right? OK. Also something that we should aspire to.

Yeah. Yeah. Good.

Good. The translation is good. The only suggestion I have about the translation is, um, basik.

Um, I, I, I would make it more, uh, nothing, nothing but. You see what I mean? It's, it's kind of, it's, it's not kyan.

Uh, it's, uh, basik means nothing but torture. You see what I mean? It's, it's just a small flavor thing.

Uh-huh. Just a flavor thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The five fires creates nothing but torment for the body or something? Yeah, nothing more than physical hassle, hassling your body. And I think basik is not in the root text.

I think it is.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, OK. Keep an eye.

[Speaker 1]
It is. What's the Sanskrit, by the way, since you're up there? Mmm.

Kevala. Yeah, Kevala. Nice.

Basikpa. Fourth chapter, Yoga Sutra. Yeah.

Just that. Just that. Kevala.

OK, next part. I, I'm wondering whether you should have a, uh, footnote for the five fires, and that would mean going into, it might be fun for you to try to find a, uh, a description of them in the, in the database.

[Speaker 2]
Or you could just steal it from Ben's book.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, did you find it in the database?

[Speaker 2]
Uh, we did a thing on it in Siddhanta.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, I just, I just don't remember if we used the, we, I'm sure we used a, a quotation from the...

[Speaker 2]
I mean, I think Choney Lama actually describes it. Or we got it from the database. One of the two.

But we explained it thoroughly from an authentic source, whether it was in our actual text or, um, from another source. We, uh, we went into it in some detail.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. And you can save a lot of time by just using other mixed nuts footnotes. And, uh...

[Speaker 2]
And sell more books.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, and, and I, I think, uh, we're gonna get to a point in this, in this long exercise where those who remember what's in other people's books are gonna have an advantage. You see what I mean? Uh, because I have been stealing liberally from other books for a while.

Okay. Uh, between your books. Like I'll say, I think I heard that before.

And then I'll, I'll use the search function, the lousy insufficient search function in Apple's operating system to, to find it. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a great search function.

I agree. I, um, I did, I did mean to make a footnote here. I guess I forgot that I was...

Yeah, that's all. Uh, okay. Let's keep going.

Please read. Okay. Carrying on in this way, we will not give up on the others.

And it's also not something that, you know, benefits us. Good. In fact, this might be a cause pretty much.

Good. Okay. Good.

To go to the lower realms, so they're not repeating before. Okay. The, the phrase gyula shupa.

What's that mean, Nick? Gyula shupa. Uh, I'm, it seems like creating the causes.

Yeah, literally it's jhupa, right? Yeah, entering into the cause.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. So maybe you can find an English way to express that. You are just...

I don't know. You think about it. That's good.

That's okay. Okay, good. All right.

Bye. Remind me. Okay.

Three line breaks before the header. Oh, right. That's just, get used to it.

People that... Go to Rimrock? Here's the second.

Okay. By the way, you broke, you broke all the rules. You have to say...

Oh, here is the section on mistaken, the people who practice mistake. Yeah, good. Oh, you have it in the, in the header.

Yeah. Right. Use the header to be more creative and, and then use this place to repeat the actual section name.

We already have a name, Mixed Nuts. You don't... This will just remind me later to...

I bet even Utpala misses it in the final ad, and then it goes out like... No, no, no. I said they would have to be damned fools.

The word fool should be mispronounced. She's the only person I know who will correct a comma. She can tell if, she can tell if a space is in italics or not.

Yeah, she can. She does that. It's true.

It's amazing. And whether a period is in italics or not. Oh, that's really good.

She's correcting me, praising her. Okay, here's another verse. Should we just skip it and go to the...

Yeah, I want to skip it and go to the... Yeah. This is too long.

I should have split it somehow. Okay. This is the part where I'm, I was pretty confused.

Especially the let's be clear part. So we might want to look at the verse, but... The Sanskrit is, is also kind of...

I believe it's a, it's modifying Sopa. But he does, he does explain it somewhere here, I think. Ah, sopa che sawa is all one thing.

Che sawa means very clear. Yeah. But whether that refers to not getting upset, that's an interesting question.

So we have to figure it out. All right, shall I read the Tibetan first? Yeah, please.

jenpa tang tsultrim tang sopa che sawa jenpa tsum tang pongwa dung gi tsen yi gi tsultrim tang sopa sum la sokpa dampay chok ki lampo che la kang ma gu kuh shing lu dungwa ni dun drol ngam chok la sokpay pay lam ngen pa ne ne ndrowa thei jesu dendro shen nam kyang ndrowa tar. Tar, sorry. Na ki bam tabu lam kowa tak ne ndrowa thei rang thang thei je njuk shen nam kyang lukpar ngyur waw.

I think he might explain the selva later. I don't remember. Can you tell from the Sanskrit, boss?

Yeah, it seems to be modifying the patience. Okay. It's spashtam, by the way.

Spashta. Okay. Okay.

And I looked at it because I was curious about it. Yeah. Hmm.

I believe he talks about it later or something. Okay. Maybe not.

I guess not. Can I ask you a question, Geshe-la? Yeah.

Is this a case where it would actually be helpful for us to have the Sanskrit still connected so we see more clearly? Yeah, probably. And it may have been connected originally.

Oops. Okay. That's true.

Before you disconnect it, you should figure out the reading. Yeah. Yeah.

I still think it's good to disconnect it because it just gets too long for anyone to use it, you know? Yeah. Okay.

chima sen jungwa chima I worked on this. I don't remember. Okay.

What's the... They mean the three kinds of giving, an ethical way of life, which is by definition... I know that I translated it not exactly according to the Tibetan grammatical construction there, but I couldn't figure out what else it could possibly be.

I just think I've been through this, but okay. Okay. jimpa dang sur chen dang and sepa.

The chesawa modifies the sepa, okay? So it's somehow not getting angry. Just keeping your clarity somehow, okay?

Patience is clear. It's extremely clear state of mind where it's not muddled by anger. How's that?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
What's the three kinds of jimpa? Well, we just had them above. It's stealth, dharma, and protection.

Good. Yeah. I looked up the bongwa then.

We got that before. You know what it is, right? Or not?

Oh, I'm sorry. The bongwa? The form of the practice of an ethical life, which is characterized by giving up seven things.

I assume that they're the first seven of the ten. Yeah, they are. Vinaya, as we studied long ago in ACI, mostly focuses on the physical and the verbal, and not so much on the mental, okay?

Yeah. I figured that's what it meant, and I thought, do we need a footnote for that? Yeah, you do.

Yep. So, chen dang, sepa sum. What's the three kinds of not getting angry?

Oh, he mentions three kinds of not getting angry. Oh, no. I was wondering that, or...

At first, it's sepa che selwa jimpa sum. Oh, pongwa jimpa sum. Right, right, right, right, right.

We had it this morning in somebody's text, three kinds of patience. What are they? Patience about something difficult, patience about someone hurting you, and patience about your spiritual practice, right?

Yeah, we had it this morning. You can even cross-reference to Master Gibson's text. Okay.

It's nice when you guys advertise each other's book. Okay. Okay.

I won't leave my footnotes in the middle of the sentence like that. This is all just... Yeah, you can if you want.

That's okay. Okay. Oh, I see what you mean, yeah.

I'll probably just put one footnote at the end of the sentence and cover both things. Yeah, you can do that, too. Yeah.

Great path of the holistic teachings. Can you scroll down a bit? Yeah, so I can see the Tibetan.

Not that far. Okay, good. Stop.

DANG PO'I CHUG GI LAM PO'I PHYI'I GSUM LA SOGS PA DANG PO'I CHUG GI LAM PO'I PHYI'I The Great Path of the Holistic Teachings. Nice. And those who practice things like disrespecting and tormenting the body, LUS DUNG BA NI DUN DRO NGAM DROG What is a ngam drog?

I forgot. You've translated it as dangerous cliffs. And I found deep canyon ravines.

Okay. DUN DRO NI NGAM DRO LA SOGS PA'I LAM YIN PA NAS DROG BA'I BYAS SU DUN DRO GZHAN LAM DANG DROG BA'I Oh, somehow I didn't read this. DUN DRO NGAM DROG LA SOGS PA'I LAM YIN PA NAS DROG BA'I BYAS SU Those who practice things like animals at the edge of dangerous cliffs.

Following after these people, we are just like new animals. Yeah, DUN DRO GZHAN LAM What happens if one animal walks down a path down a canyon which is too narrow and falls off, and others say, oh, look, he's using that path. You just went quiet, Geshe-la.

Oh, if one animal walks down the Grand Canyon on a too narrow path and falls off, but other animals standing up above look down and say, oh, that animal uses that path. I guess I can use that one. And they go down.

What happens to them? They will fall. Yeah, that's all.

That's the point here. One animal goes down an inappropriate path down a cliff, and then they, Geshe-la, following him, other animals also fall off. Okay.

So, but since it doesn't say fall, it just says other animals. Yeah. How to say it?

I understood that, but I didn't know what to say because it doesn't say it. Yeah, he doesn't say what happened to the animals, but he just said one of them went down a bad path, and now the others are going to follow him. Yeah, so should I say something like we are just like more of these animals, maybe?

Uh, yeah, otherwise it doesn't make sense. Yeah, otherwise the translation doesn't make sense. You know, we're like animals who follow those animals or something like that.

Because the point is rang dang jen juk shen nam kyang lu. Yeah, the point is in the last sentence, right? We are like those animals who follow other animals down a dangerous place stupidly.

Just follow them. Tim says like lemmings. Yeah, that's a good example, by the way.

We can illustrate this book with a picture of lemmings. Yeah, and you could probably get Amalie to do the drawing. Eventually.

So, is this correct, the last sentence? The people who follow these mistaken paths, which are dark paths? Like, I was trying to understand how...

Like, are they just positives? nak gi lam tabu lam ko wa. Yeah.

Yeah, nak gi lam tabu. I would say it's like a path in the dark. In the dark, right?

Darkness. You know, we had trouble with Adam's book choosing a title because yik gi mun sel, right? Removing the darkness of the mind.

Darkness has this connotation in English of evil or weird activity. You know, that's kind of a dark thing to say. But darkness is meant here just to be in the dark.

You know, like confused or something like that. So, I mean, be careful with unintended connotations of words. Totally.

It did sound more ominous. It sounds like somebody cutting off a cat's feet or something. You know, it's not that kind of thing.

It's to be in the dark, you know. But you've got to figure out a way to say that. We are struggling with Adam's text's name.

We don't want to use the word darkness. It's the dark. And darkness is not the same as the dark in English anymore.

Darkness is weird activity. And the dark is uninformed activity. He's acting in the dark.

Something like that. Anyway, think about it. Think about connotations of words that you don't intend.

Totally. That's really helpful. Thank you, Geshe-la.

All right. I think we're done, right? You got the plane.

I got the plane. Thank you. You're welcome.

Somebody was saying it would be useful to write a book about translation. I think that might be interesting. In your spare time.

Yeah, my spare time. There's a book, probably Utpala knows it, called The Elements of Style by Strunk. And it's not a narrative book.

It's a list of items. And it's alphabetical. Oh, Geshe-la, your sound cut out again.

Is that happening for everybody or is it me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's happening here too.

It's for you. It's happening for everyone. Don't say that.

[Speaker 2]
Sorry. It's only happening for everyone for you.

[Speaker 1]
The rest of us think it's happening to no one else. We lost them all together. Oh, man.

Maybe this is the bug of his computer that he was talking about. That's what happened yesterday. He warned us.

[Speaker 3]
We lost his sound and then he lost it.

[Speaker 1]
His computer, he'll be right back. Oh, wow. I didn't know computers could do that.

Yeah, let's look at the root text. So clearly, it's not, let's be clear, right? He made that clear.

It's something about, you guys got to help me. I'm just a simple guy giving ethical life, not getting angry. So how do we say that?

Having a clear head that doesn't get angry? Is this the Selwa distribute? According to Geshe Michael, the Selwa applies to se.

[Speaker 3]
Okay. Is it an idiom though that might not mean something literal that it's only used for meter or something?

[Speaker 1]
I searched all of the available reference materials to me and for Tibetan, and I could not find sesel. But it's still, that doesn't mean it's not a thing, but Geshe Michael didn't recognize it as being a thing. And he's pretty sharp with that stuff.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah. Did you do a proximity search, like super cell or anything like that?

[Speaker 1]
No, I did not go that far. Okay. We can do that.

We can do that. I'm doing it right now. I'll do it with my shared screen.

Okay. So that we can all do it together. Send yourself.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah. It could just be like an adjective about the patients.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, yeah. That seems to be what he's saying.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah. Not clear, but some kind of goodness about it. Like literally clear patients, but meaning it's how amazing it is or something.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Could be. What results do you have?

Can you bring it a little higher? I'm going to check in the Sim Boom, because that was. Oh, yeah.

Maybe just within one line.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, I think so, too.

[Speaker 1]
I agree, but it didn't even show up. But I think that's because that Sim Boom has been renamed. Oh, yeah.

I renamed it recently. This is how you add a folder to go for.

[Speaker 3]
See, I see one example where cell is being used to mean holy or something here. Interesting.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. Yeah.

[Speaker 3]
I think it's some adjective like that that doesn't actually mean clear anymore.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, totally could be. But the Sanskrit is there. Oh, right.

The Sanskrit there. And that Sanskrit word means. What was the Sanskrit word?

Kevala? No. Yeah, that's right.

Okay, let's look. Yeah, that will help. Yeah.

Or move it in an exciting direction. Kevala can also mean. Sorry.

It can also mean to make a parent. So it could be that what we're talking about is a composure that is evident. And not just you're doing it in your mind and your face looks really upset.

[Speaker 3]
They're clearly patient like that. Not showing anger, showing patience.

[Speaker 1]
Manifest. Let's look up Spashtum. I know just the guy to ask.

Whoever's telegram is that. Could you just. Oh, I'm guessing Michael's back.

[Speaker 3]
Spashtum means clear.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

Openly or distinctly. Okay. Right.

That's all pretty clear. I mean, that's. Sorry about that.

Now it looks like you're back. Nick, can you say something? Yeah.

Can you guys hear me? Yes. Yeah, it's my fault.

My cord was disconnected. You know how it looks like it's still connected on the box or the cord? It's not.

So that's my fault. I'm sorry. Well, we were.

If you guys are interested in the Salwa, it connected with Sipa. Why are we might search them close to each other? That's what we were doing.

Yeah. Talked about it in his commentary. I'm sorry.

There's other commentaries. Oh, I bet in the Tengyur, actually. Okay.

I'm not aware of Salwa used commonly with Sipa, but you know, we could try. We figured if it happens ever, you know about it. Yeah, I normally do.

So I don't think it's very common, but. We are looking only in the Tengyur. This does not look like it's.

Uh-huh. You'd want to restrict yourself to the Uma, maybe. Oh.

Just Uma? Well, if it's commentary on. Oh, this might be in Epistle.

I was searching in Epistle. Okay. Oh, right.

We're in Epistle. Yep. All right.

Here we go. Do, do, do, do, do, do. Nope.

Really? No. Wait, it should have hit in this text, though.

That's odd. That's a problem. Oh, no, you misspelled Sipa.

Yay. Try again. Beezy.

There's my problem. Yeah, that happens. I do that all the time.

Good, only five. Okay. That's not it.

No, right, or I'm squished. I hope so, because you took Sipa. No.

No, that's not it. No. It seems to be completely different sentences, right?

What's this book? This is a letter to a student. Oh, yeah, skip this one.

This is also a letter to, this is a commentary to a letter on the difficult points to a letter to a student. Boy, the next one better be our book. Yay, good.

Here we go. Well, we got that going for us, at least. Yeah.

Let's read, is this the root text? It is. Yeah, this is it.

Is there no commentary in the Ten-Year Tarot book? No. Let me go find it on my own, okay?

And it'll save time. It'll save time.

[Speaker 2]
Do you want to take the screen back and show us, boss?

[Speaker 1]
Why are you doing it anyway? Let me just find it on my own. It might take, it's too much wasted time for next class, I think.

Oh, I see, I see. On your own. Yeah, that'll take a while.

About nine more minutes. For example. Ah, see, I apologize for the computer thing.

That's cool. Totally my bad. We were working on it.

We were researching together, like good mixed nerds. Yeah, good. Here we go.

Okay, so we reached to where? Hang on, just after that. There we go.

Sorry, working. Okay, we reached to where? Below this?

Yeah, there's this plastic. Yeah. In fact, I did look it up myself, and I don't know.

Oh, here they are. Here's my notes. Yeah, no, I didn't, I didn't write it down.

Okay, let's go. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. We're going to start here. Can we say?

Okay, did we skip something, or we just skipped a verse? Did we skip a whole verse? Oh, I'm sorry.

We did this one. Yeah, there's a tiny little piece here. You want to read that?

DE'IR CHOS SUM THAMS PA NI GONG GI CHOS CHOS DGOS KUN GDUG PA YIN NO Yeah, when it talks about three practices here, which is jen, tsultrim, and sup, I think. Okay? Good?

The first three perfections. When it talks about the three perfections here, right, they include all 16 of what I spoke about before. Cool.

Cool? All right, what I spoke about before. Got it.

Let's go to the next verse. At least we'll get something done. So, you want to pick someone to read, Nick?

Sure. Gibson. Uh-oh, he doesn't need to practice.

Okay, go ahead. Okay, come on. Come on.

What is it? Taichung. No.

Yeah, Taichung, that's what I said. Okay. Good.

The Hindus. Yeah. Yeah, I like that.

I had a new name for them. Anyway. Anyway, okay.

Is that appropriate for the airwaves? No, I have a good new name for them. Anyway, I'll show you later.

It's in Ben's name. Chökyi Lam Lam are good. They don't have gupa for Chökyi Lam.

They don't have respect for the path of the Dharma. Geshe-la, can I ask you a quick question? I'm sorry.

I keep... We have the word chö so much, and it means Dharma so specifically, and I've been calling it teachings. Do you think that's a good way to go?

Teachings or practices? I've started to use Dharma, capital D, on the assumption that anyone who... the 10 people who buy our books know what Dharma is.

Okay. Okay. I think it's a good call for this book, because it uses it in that way.

Yeah. I'm pretty amenable to it nowadays. Those who don't respect the path of the Dharma, and they go to a lam lok.

They go on mistaken paths, wrong paths. Yeah. Drog gunpa.

Drog gun means like ramsa. Oh, yeah. Okay.

A far off place. Out in the middle of nowhere. Okay.

Drog gunpa means out in the middle of nowhere. They are... They are like a dundro.

Mm-hmm. They live like animals, or they're like animals. Who are traveling down places which are...

have nak dupo. Yeah. Shing nak.

Thick forest? Yeah. Yeah, a thick brush.

Like a very thick jungle. Like a jungle that you can't get through. Full of roots and trees that you trip over and you can't get through.

Dupo che gyu kawa. This gyu doesn't mean cause. It's a verb meaning...

Course. Path, yeah, to get through, to walk through. They are like animals who take off on a wrong path and get stuck in the middle of a thick jungle.

And they can't go up and they can't go back. Like that. Okay.

Caught in the bramble? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, caught in the brambles. And now here's what the brambles represent. Okay.

This is a long sentence. He keeps doing that to us. There's no place to break this sentence.

Did you notice? So first I'm looking at it. There's no comma except one.

Oh, wow. And that comes after. Okay, I'm sorry.

It's not my fault. That's cute. Okay.

So the Khorwe Drogon. Uh-huh. The forest of Samsara.

Yeah. You gotta somehow say the... I don't know.

Oh, the far off place of Samsara. But I have to make it like... The Amazon wilds of Samsara.

Okay. What was this? Those are nyelwa.

That's the nyelwas. The hells. Yeah.

They are kong. What's this kong mean with an instrumental? Oh.

Whoever... Like a cup. Like a cup.

Yeah, full. Full of. Yeah, in English we use the genitive.

Full of. In Tibetan you use the instrumental. Filled by.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Misepa thai.

Uh-huh. Yeah, infinitely unbearable stuff. Yeah, and there's all these debates.

There's all these debates in Tibetan about misepa. Okay. Some people say it's misepa.

Which means unbearable. And some people say it's misepa without the B. Which means...

Inexhaustible. Yeah, okay. So, just be careful about that distinction.

I would say unbearable suffering. In the thick amazon jungle called samsara. Okay, kong shing.

chikpay sokla tawa la sokpay tawa ngenpay thibor sumwa dampa. chik sokla tawa. The perishable assemblage view.

The view of destruction. I'm kind of tempted to just give up on that and call it me and mine, you know. That might get me in trouble, I don't know.

Okay, that's what it is, by the way. Okay, uh, I remember thibor sumwa. Uh, thibor...

What is that? Uh, I don't... Oh, it's time.

Well, you finish this sentence. Okay, I will. It actually looks like fun to me.

Yeah. Yeah, it does. I apologize that we didn't get a very good class into me.

Uh, do you want to summarize it, though? Uh, what we did? I'll summarize it quickly.

Uh, let me think back here for a minute. We... Oh, man, I've kind of drawn a blank.

I need to look at my computer. Scroll up. Scroll up.

Yeah, I have to look at my computer. So we talked about how... We got to this section about the people who undertake, you know, wrong paths.

First, the subject of wrong paths. We started talking about the people who undertake wrong paths. Um, and then we talked about how they harm ourselves and others.

Uh, sorry. First, we talked about how the fact that they harm ourselves. Then we talked about the people who are following them and how they are like animals.

And following them... People who follow them are like the other animals who would follow them off a cliff. Yeah.

Okay. I mean, that's really the main stuff we talked about. And it could be a cause for the lower realms.

Like, these are just harmful practices. Yeah, good. And the whole subject came up because somebody else wanted to...

They were wondering if... Well, Arya Nagarjuna mentioned spiritual austerities being a wrong path. And then somebody said, well, shouldn't that be added to the 16?

Isn't that another...? Yeah, right. Yeah. Someone wanted to make more than 16.

There probably are more than 16. But their tapas is not it, right? Right.

Okay. Stop for five minutes? Yes, sir.

Okay. All right. Again, I apologize for my computer.

It was... It looked like it was plugged in and it wasn't. So...

Thank you, Geshe-la. Thank you for the class. And I learned a lot.

Thank you, Geshe-la. All right. We'll do better next time.

All right. See you guys in a few minutes. Have a nice break.

Three minutes, right? He said five, so take five.