Ник Лашо — Книга 2: Ратнамала, занятие 7

[Speaker 1]
If you're there, I can display your homework if you want, if you want to email it to me. I guess he's gone. Hi Aldo.

Congratulations on your retreat. Tell them how to do stuff.

[Speaker 2]
I saw this cute cartoon where a man is feeding a baby, and he says, as soon as I get you to deal with solid food, I have some questions for you about the internet, or the Wi-Fi, or something like that.

[Speaker 1]
Hey, if you can find that, send it to me. Veronica is in Tucson today with the baby that's going to be born in two months. Hi.

I'm back. I was going to offer to display your homework if you want. I'll share it, I believe.

Let me see. Let me see. Oh wait.

Yeah, give me one second. I think my screen share is going to work just fine. All right.

If I start getting cut out, then we'll deal with it. That's your rocket. Can you guys see my screen?

I see GarageBand. GarageBand. Let me try that again.

That's a song for Ben to sing on. You guys are going to love it. Let's see.

All right, now? Now it just says, oh, there you go. You got it.

Okay. Everybody, hold on. Can you make it bigger?

Yeah. Okay. Is that good?

Great, thank you. All right. I always think that we have reached the section of the text where we're discussing the meaning of the name.

The name of the text that we are translating in Sanskrit, Tibetan, and English. The full name, not just the nickname. Start with the Sanskrit.

Does anybody know the name in Sanskrit? Yeah, good. Is that Kausai?

[Speaker 2]
No. No.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. Okay. Good, yeah, and it could be Radhamala or Radhanavali, and in this case it was Radhamali.

Is that a long I? Is that correct, Geshe-la? It looked like it was, but I didn't find that.

Yeah, it's unusual, but it's that. Yeah, it's a feminine ending. Makes it more feminine, yeah.

Okay. Okay. All right, Tibetan?

You can look at the Sanskrit and remember the parts. That's the second part. That's Radhanamali.

Rinchenchengwa? Rinchenchengwa is Radhanamali.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, okay.

[Speaker 1]
And then what's Radhanamali?

[Speaker 2]
Gyalpala Tamjawa.

[Speaker 1]
Tamjawa? Yeah, Gyalpala Tamjawa. Nice, nice.

Nice, Alex. What's that mean? In English?

I was afraid you were going to ask. Something spoken about? Discussion.

The Rosary of Jewels. Something like that.

[Speaker 2]
The King of the String of Jewels.

[Speaker 1]
King of the String? I'm sorry. The String of Jewels, which was blank to the king.

[Speaker 2]
The King of the String of Jewels, which was blank to the king.

[Speaker 1]
Spoken with? Yeah, which was spoken to. Good.

I think I originally had words to a king, String of Precious Jewels or something. And I think I ended up putting just now letter to a king, just because that's how everybody refers to it. But I think Tamjawa isn't really a word for a letter, it's more like advice or words for a king, right?

I'm checking it out because I'm curious what else Parikata means. It looks like it's always used for conversation. I'm looking in Chandra.

It's always used for verbal conversation. There's 24 cases and they all mean discussion or talk about. Maybe it's a discussion with the king, right?

I think Nick from...

[Speaker 2]
Uh-oh, he did.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Aw.

[Speaker 2]
Boy, the demons are really afoot past couple days.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Let's give him a few minutes and see if he comes back. By the way, Tam is so close to dumb that it almost always means discussions which involve advice from one person to another.

So, in ancient Tibetan, Tam always has some feeling of dumb, which means they didn't just talk about sports, they were talking about something, advice, life advice. Otherwise, dumb always means having a talk with somebody. Dr. Ben, what do you think?

Should I just start the text, maybe? You got to turn your microphone on, handsome. Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Let me see if I can get Nick to even share his homework. If he sends his homework to me, maybe he can do Zoom on his phone. Yeah.

If I just want to find a way to tell him that.

[Speaker 1]
You want to text him?

[Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Okay.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, there he is, I think. Well, that would be cool.

[Speaker 1]
Let's let him in.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, just let him in.

[Speaker 1]
You know he went surfing. I did go surfing, but I just got back. Hey, Nick.

Yes. Hey, do you want to try, what if you can send me your homework? I can share it on the screen.

And you can just do Zoom on your phone. So that you don't have to go through your computer.

[Speaker 2]
Right. You don't have to use the wifi on your phone. You can talk to us through.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Zoom on the phone. I think it's one less.

Let's do that. Let's try it. Cool.

Cool. Great. Until it starts.

I'll keep doing it. I texted you the document. Great.

Okay. Yeah. Did you do it via your computers?

That's correct. Okay. Nick is in the folder already.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, that's interesting word.

[Speaker 1]
That's an idea. I doubt it if you didn't have internet. He thought he did.

Okay, I'm looking. I think it is there's a quiz for in the folder. That's encouraging.

Well, do you want me to show it. Yeah, sure. If you're looking at it right now.

Let's pop it up. Thank you. Great.

[Speaker 3]
A quick blow it up so we can't see the answers. Oh my God.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, good. Okay.

[Speaker 3]
Oh, good. All right. All right.

Is Nick still on the call.

[Speaker 2]
No.

[Speaker 3]
I think we're just kept the guests on the answers that I don't think they're. Okay.

[Speaker 2]
We can criticize his translation without him here. That'll be nice.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Not even seeing him. I can hear you guys.

[Speaker 2]
We know that. Which to just doing zoom on your phone without the computer at all.

[Speaker 1]
It uses less resources. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Cool. There's a lot of resources.

Okay. That's a good rumbler.

[Speaker 2]
Even your really witty repertoire. It is coming through choppy. Save, save your jokes for better internet.

Anyone, anyone. What were some objections made about the name.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Trying to think about it. I don't remember any objections about them.

Anybody else.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. Did it have to do with my. Advises to a specific King or.

Yeah. One called writing on the solitary. Yeah.

Or just King is in a letter to the King. Something like that.

[Speaker 1]
Some people, some cutcheeks said that it was just general advice to the Kings. All right. Okay.

And then some other cutcheek said that it was. Advice to this Northern King. The South.

I, well, we were confused about it. I did a little bit of research last night and I couldn't get to the bottom of it. It looked like Udayi Bhadra is the one who it's supposed to be.

Yeah. Yeah. And then.

The mistaken one was some other. Yeah. I found Udayi Bhadra.

Once in Locust Chandra. Yeah. Yeah.

I found that too. Same hit, I guess. And then I couldn't find the name of the Northern King.

I could do all. I will do more research, but it was just. I just couldn't get to the bottom of who the solitary King is.

Okay. Good. Okay.

Okay. And the purpose for setting forth the offerings of the praise has two parts. What are they?

Somehow I left it. Oopsie. And there's the answer.

Oh, wait, no, sorry. That was actually. Okay.

I just gave you a hint. What are the two parts? No, it's a, it's a little confusing, actually.

It doesn't seem like it would be. It's not the typical way that they break the two parts down of a section. It's two parts that have something to do with what the Buddha does.

The purpose.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, Fulfilling his own purpose and fulfilling the. The needs of others.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Awesome. And I think it's just saying you're you're cool.

Because you do the best thing in the universe for yourself and you do the best thing in the universe for others. What was the Tibetan? There should be something to highlight there.

Something to turn.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, good. I'm Sagey now, but yes. Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, you're not looking at the answer key. Okay, fine. Oh, then there was a bonus question on there.

That was. What? Yes, you're right.

Thank you. That's right there too.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, I didn't see it.

[Speaker 1]
No, I know. I could tell. Yeah.

I don't think the praise fulfills the needs. I think Buddha's being praised because he fulfills the needs. That's that's.

Yeah. So it's more like. The purpose of the praise, I guess.

Because he keeps referring to it as the done of the tip. But it makes sense what you're saying. Yeah.

That then means, how do we read the tip? Yeah. What's the point of the tip?

It's to praise Buddha for helping others and helping himself perfectly. I'll say why he set forth the praise or why Buddha is being praised. Yeah.

Yeah. The purpose. And then.

For some reason, Joseph J. Specifies that the guards. Had a really specific motivation for praising him.

He did it out of a certain motivation. Does anybody remember what that was? And it's related to what we're talking about.

Oh. Oh. I got it, but I'm not going to say.

50 Bucks. 50 Bucks. That case.

[Speaker 2]
Could you say it again, please? I didn't hear you.

[Speaker 1]
The bonus question is. The guards. Joseph J.

Specifies that the guards. Had a particular. Had something particular.

He was motivated by one particular. Aspect. To write the praise.

To get. It's not really different than what we're.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, that. He'll finish. The book successfully.

And that. The readers will finish the book successfully.

[Speaker 1]
You're halfway right. He's just, you're leaving out. It's something that we're already talking about.

It's just one aspect of it. Of why he was so motivated. The two needs.

He was motivated by. Himself and others. Well, it's one of those really.

All right. Cancel the bed. Cancel the bed.

It's because. Well, he said. When to satisfy the needs of himself, that makes him.

When he satisfies the needs of himself, When he satisfies the needs of himself, that makes him such a special object. That, that, that it was inspired. That somehow inspired.

Right. And promise to complete the work. And that's what.

And I'm not totally clear on it. And I threw it in the homework. Cause I wasn't totally clear on it.

Like why. That's what he said. Okay.

So. Well, Well, I don't have the answer key now, so. Let's go to my translation.

My attempt at translation. THUB PA LA RANG BSTAN PUN SOGS THANG, GZHAN DANG PUN SOGS SOGS Yeah. This, again, this just means Buddha is being praised because he.

Has fulfilled the needs of himself and the needs of others perfectly. Absolutely. Yeah, it makes way more sense.

Yeah. Now how he fulfilled his own needs. How he fulfilled his own needs has two parts.

They call BANG PA PUN SOGS and THUB PA PUN SOGS. Okay. What's that mean?

Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. He gave up perfectly everything he had to give up.

And he realized everything that he had to realize perfectly. So RANG BSTAN PUN SOGS, achieving the best thing for himself, involves BANG PA and THUB PA. Oh, I got it.

So the knee, even though it's before the kama, the knee is referring to BANG PA and THUB PA. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. He achieved those two things. And we got to catch the remission here.

Those two are indicated in order, irrespectively, in the KANG PA DANG PO NYID of the shloka. Oh, yeah, okay. All right, I totally missed the point here.

Yeah. Got it. Okay.

Understood. What is the shloka? I'll go read it to you.

Let me see here. It says, NYEI PA KUN LE NAM DU SHING Somebody has freed themselves from all problems. YIN NENG KU GYI GYEN PA PO Someone is adorned with all good qualities.

So those two lines, irrespectively, represent getting rid of all his bad qualities and realizing everything he had to realize. Thank you. For the next paragraph, then, let's change that first line to say the third line discusses how he fulfilled the needs.

The third line of the verse begins the discussion of how he fulfilled the needs. Oh, sorry, not there.

[Speaker 2]
The next one.

[Speaker 1]
You don't have to type it into my quiz. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. SHEN PO NI What is the third line? It says, SEMS CAN KUN RGYI NYAN GCIG PO The one friend of every living being.

Okay? The one and only friend of every living being. Okay.

So... So what does that imply? I can summarize by saying that when we call omniscientist realized and hence fulfilled bodhisattvas, THAMS CAD KHYEN PA SHES PA'I RTOG PA PHUN TZOG NYID DUG PA Oh, Nick, the THAMS CAD KHYEN PA comes in the fourth line.

Okay. So he's referring to the first half of the fourth line. So he says, you know, when we talk about taking care of others, it's that third line which says he's the single friend of all living beings.

And then the fourth line starts with THAMS CAD KHYEN PA. And... Oh, so when it says SHES, it's just saying now the fourth line.

Yeah, or quote the word THAMS CAD KHYEN PA in the fourth line. It embraces both RTOG PA PHUN TZOG, the two aspects of RTOG PA PHUN TZOG. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. And that's something we're going to have to look up, the two aspects of RTOG PA PHUN TZOG.

I don't know. Let me think about this. GZHAN DU NI DKA'I MA THAMS CAD SHES PA'I RTOG PA PHUN TZOG I think something's missing here.

Oh, I'll tell you in a minute. I think there's something missing in the Tibetan. It feels like that to me.

Okay. I'll have to check. Actually, I think he talks about it after this.

Okay. The two forms of his realizations. GZHAN DU NI DKA'I MA THAMS CAD SHES PA'I RTOG PA PHUN TZOG DUM PA'O Oh, so when he says DU PA'AM, right?

PA'AM?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
That means I'll give you an alternate. Yeah, you said that. Or you can say YIN NEN DE DAG DANG LDAN PAS because he possesses those good qualities.

By virtue of the good qualities that he possesses. Yeah. He is the perfect teacher.

Yeah, you're correct. SKAD ZHUGS means SKAD PAR DU ZHUGS PA It means he stands out from other teachers. SKAD ZHUGS means he stands out.

He's different. You see what I mean? Okay, good.

The rest is good. Well, sorry for this translation. You know, my excuses are blatant now.

No, I know. Living in a house is one of the most painful things in the universe. But I kind of knew that I was messing this up.

I just couldn't wrap my head around it. But I get it. It's pretty straightforward, actually.

Cool. Thank you. I wanted to let you know, I did do the comparison of the newer input that we have and the older input that we have.

And it's way better. Every single problem that you noted is the way that you thought it would be in the other input. So I'll parse that one and have it ready for next term.

Yeah, and that's not a small job. The more classes we finish, the harder that job gets. So we had that big problem with words text.

It was a lot of suffering to go back and change it all.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, mine too.

[Speaker 1]
We're not too far along. I can put my headphones on and listen to some rock and roll and do it in a couple hours. Yeah, I like it.

Okay, here we go. Grandpa's sharing his screen. Where were we?

Let's go back. It's here, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to change this.

Hang on. Okay, good. Please read from here.

And Venerable Utpala was dying to correct you. She has plenty of chances. Now I want to start from Nibbāni, I think.

Yeah, he just didn't read Nibbāni. Oh, I didn't say Nibbāni, my mistake. I didn't.

Oh, okay, okay. Nibbāni kangpa shipe che chi me so. Yeah, this is a little bit difficult.

It's small, but difficult. So the second part that he promised us, which he... I don't know why they don't repeat what they're talking about.

So Grandpa has to get it. It's the actual bowing. The first three and a half lines of this verse praise Lord Buddha, and then the last half a line is the actual bowing down.

And before this, there was a lot of divisions. Like he divided the first three and then he already checked all that. Yeah, I'm following all this.

We're fine.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
So what's this little sentence here mean? Oh, that's the... che chi means the latter half, and kangpa shipe means the fourth line.

Yeah, let's go look at it. It's right here. Dak chak tsau.

Uh-huh. I bow down. Oh, yeah.

It's dak chak tsau. It's the second half of the fourth line. All right, that stuff's easy.

Let's start something complicated. We have reached now... Up till now, you haven't seen any bowing of this verse.

He hasn't commented yet on the actual wording of the verse, and now he says, now I'm going to give you the words of the verse, and that's why you see bowed parts now. Please start, Nibs. Inna, it's too bad you're translating because you're a good checker.

Let's see who we got.

[Speaker 2]
Geshe-la, did we skip dun du na sang gye kun shok dang?

[Speaker 1]
Sorry?

[Speaker 2]
Go up a little bit, right there. Dun du na sang gye.

[Speaker 1]
You're absolutely right. Okay, let's do that. Oh, you know what, Nick?

His outline is broken. There might have been another division that we had to cover before that. I don't see three parts here.

Oh, oh. Well, Nipa, okay. He promised us the praise and then the bowing, but okay, let's just read this paragraph together.

Utpa is absolutely right. I'll double check that part carefully later. Yeah, Mr. Tim, can you correct this Tibetan?

Here we go. All right. Dun du na.

Yeah, okay, good. You don't have to do it. I don't want to get into that.

Okay, briefly. Yeah, what's the verb here? Khyam dro?

Yeah, who here is being taken refuge in? Who are we taking refuge in? And then he starts.

Sangye Koyn Chok. The precious Buddha. The jewel, the Buddha jewel.

Yeah, the Buddha jewel. We are anticipatory translating, expecting three jewels here. Absolutely.

There's the Buddha jewel. And then there's the Chö Koyn Chok in his thukkyu. He's got the Dharma jewel in his...

I guess thukkyu is mind stream, his holy mind stream. Exactly, in his honorable mind stream. And then there's the Gen Rin Koyn Chok who drupa that Chö, So Shindu.

I'm thinking it means they practice or achieve the teachings just as he spoke them. Yeah, yeah, just as intended. They carry out the second jewel.

The third jewel carries out the second jewel as they were asked to do. So they are khyam dro yu. Yeah, they're the object of refuge.

Yeah, when you're taking refuge. By taking refuge. Dangwa here is depa.

Crystal in faith. Nice. If you take refuge with great faith, then you should shepa that that's the tsawa of all your drupas.

You got to understand that that's the root. You should understand that that's the root of all achievement. Yeah, good.

Accomplishment. Yeah. And here it says shedru, which means teaching and carrying out the teachings.

Okay. Interesting. Any shedrus you know?

I'm trying to think. I mean, at the monastery, there's got to be a couple. Choney Lama, Choney Lama.

Choney Lama, yeah. Yeah, okay. He's the main one, yeah.

Yeah, teaching and doing what you teach. Shedru. Okay, teaching and doing what you do.

Good. All right. Now, I don't know.

The outline's a little messy here. Maybe I made a mistake. What's this line here mean?

Sumbani. This is where Arya Nagarjuna is doing his prostration, or saying, I bow down. Yep, that's all.

Very simple. I'm sorry. So that's the word meaning of the prostration, I guess.

Let's just keep going. I'm not happy with the outline, but let's keep going. Stanley wants to check.

It looks like that. Yeah, I'm going to calm down, Stanley. DANG PO LA GSUM.

Oh, I lost it from my screen. I think we're at GANG LA NA CI LTA BA. Oh, okay.

GANG LA NA CI LTA BA THAMS CAD NAS PA MA LUS PA THUGS SU CHUD PAS THAMS CAD KHYEN PA LA'O Yeah. GANG LA NA means, well, who are you bowing down to? Okay, and I'm bowing down to the guy who THUGS SU CHUD PAS MA LUS PA, both the CI LTA BA side of things and the CI GNAS PA side of things.

Uh-huh, okay. So the person who holds in his heart and who understands deeply all. Yeah, all the objects of knowledge there are, which can be divided.

Into, isn't it terms, like how we call things? Anybody? Anybody want to take a shot here?

All existing things and the way all things are. Yeah, good. In the opposite order, yeah.

CI GNAS PA means individually all the objects of knowledge there are. And then CI LTA BA means the way in which they exist. In other words, emptiness-ly.

So he's bowing down. That's pretty much Gyaltsabje's definition of THAMS CAD KHYEN PA. The omniscient one.

You're omniscient because you understand not only all the objects in the universe, but you understand their emptiness as well. Those two sides of... Whoa, this is a long one.

Who are we going to make suffer? Rob Haggerty, I love to make you suffer. All right.

THE YANG PHANGS PA'I KHYAD PAR GANG ZAG THANG PHUNG PO RANG BZHIN GYIS CHUG PAR DZIN PA'I NYON MONGS PA'I DRIP PA THANG I have stopped there. And there's two Dripas, right? Obstacles to knowledge and obstacles to...

Nirvana. Obstacles to knowledge and obstacles which are mental afflictions, right? How does he describe the obstacles which are mental afflictions?

Use the first two lines here. What you give up, especially what people give up. GANG ZAG THANG PHUNG PO RANG BZHIN GYIS CHUG PAR DZIN PA'I So, holding to the parts of a person as having some...

the person and their parts as having something of their own. Yeah, right. And that relates to what he gave up.

We're talking about THOG PA and PHANGS PA, right? THOG PA PHUN TZOG and PHANGS PA PHUN TZOG. So if you want to talk about what he gave up...

What did he THOG PA, by the way? He understood all the objects in the universe and their true nature. Now we get to what he gave up.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
He gave up the NGON DRIPS. And we're anticipating... The GNON DRIPS are going to have a direct correlation to fulfilling the goals of others.

Yeah, well, nope. Here it is. Describe it.

Oh, here it is. GNYIS RNAM CHUG RIGS PHAG CHAG Okay. The mistaken state of mind that holds things as, you know, existing in duality, dualistically, or illusory.

The seeds in the mind. The seeds in the mind that make a difference. Uh-huh.

He... Now read the bowl. NGES PAR KUN LAS RNAM PAR GROL He got liberated from all those mistakes.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Totally liberated from those mistakes. And I'm going to take you back to the Abhidharma. What's it?

[Speaker 2]
Oh.

[Speaker 1]
LAR MI SKYE BA'I TSUL LAR MI SKYE BA'I TSUL How we stop those from coming back? Yeah, good. They don't come back, okay?

So when he's... He's trying to gloss freedom. Uh-huh.

And he says, freedom means you get rid of something in a way that it doesn't come back. Later. It doesn't come back later.

Okay, good. Cool. Then I'm going to go to this verb.

What's ZE mean next to the last line? M-D-Z-E-S Love? Beautiful?

It means beautiful, okay? And... I couldn't find this true.

You need to check the carving, okay? Okay. It's extremely rare.

Maybe it's related to DRU meaning to be full of? But I... There's something very wrong here.

So anyway, he's ZE with yun tens. He's beautiful with all good qualities. Yeah, therefore he is somebody who is GAN PA DOS.

Or he's jeweled, bejeweled. Yeah, good. Now let's go back to the lines above.

RTOG PA'I KHYAD PAR NYAN THOS SOGS DANG THUN MONG BA He's got realizations that are THUN MONG BA with NYAN THOS. That are shared with the listeners. And he's got good qualities that are THUN MONG BA and not shared with the listeners.

Sorry, yeah. Okay, THUN MONG MA YIN PA. Yeah, good.

And those include RTOG here. Meaning... The powers of a Buddha.

RTOG ZHI. RTOG ZHI? RTOG ZHU.

Ten powers or something. You can check this Kramer guy's text. All right, keep going.

And Haso, you want to help him? He might be translating. Are you translating, Haso?

No, no. Okay, good. All right, let's go.

Let's game. SHEN DONG PUN TSOG NI THUB RJE KUN NAS LAM NAS SEM CHEN GANG CHE NGYE PAS RIG PA RIG PA DRAG LAS GYOP CHING LEGS PAS RIG PA DRAG LA GOS PAS SEM CHEN KUN GYIS NYAN CIG PA DANG MED PA DE LA CHAK TSA LO I'm going to say something. It occurs to me that the S is lengthened, especially when it's an instrumental, to help the listener.

I don't think it's so much in general. Okay, how's that? Yeah, good.

That's what I thought originally, but I'm exaggerating. I don't want to get hit. So, how did he...

SHEN DONG PUN TSOG How did he achieve the needs, fulfill the needs of others perfectly? Good. He was KUN LONGD by THUB RJE.

Motivated by his great compassion. Yeah, good. Motivated by great compassion, he GYOPAS SEM CHEN GANG CHE He protects all living beings.

From what? NYES PAS RIGS PHA DAG All along. Yeah, this just means every kind of problem there is.

And having gotten rid of all their NYES PAS RIGS, he gets them all the LAS PAS RIGS. Yeah, he pushes them into not having... into good ways of thinking or good ways of being.

Therefore, he is the NYAN GCIG of SEMS CAN KUN. He's the one great friend, one true friend of all living beings. Yeah, and when you say one and only, he's the one and only GCIG PA, right?

He's the one and only friend of all living beings. What you mean is... The next words are commentary on GCIG PA.

Yeah, he's matchless. DAG MED PA Yeah, and this is a very poignant term to use in Tibetan because matchless also means what? No moon?

Yeah, no moon. So he's back in the sky with only one heavenly body. So he wants us to have in our mind the vision of a world where the sun shines all day.

Okay, there's one big sun in the sky, and that's Lord Buddha. And I thought so. Bow down.

Good. I want Ben to help you on the next one because there's something here I want Ben to do. DONG PA GZHAN NI SEMS CAN LA NUS PAR ZHUGS PA STE LEGS LDAN NAG PO BRTAG PO DBANG CHUG GI CHONG KHYIR SUM TSEGS SREG PA THANG KHYAM SUG GI MAG DE CHEN PO CHOG RGYAS CHONG PA THANG Good.

Other DONG PAs... Harm. Yeah, this ZHUGS PA means NGES ZHUGS PA.

They engage in... Harmful activities, I guess? Toward living beings?

Yeah, they hurt living beings. People other than the teacher, yeah, I got it. Oh yeah, other, no, other teachers.

Other teachers, oh, okay. Other teachers, other religious, high religious figures, such as LEGS LDAN NAG PO Oh, Bhavakrishna or something? Yeah, something like that.

Ben's going to look it up. And I guess there was a town called BRTAG PO DBANG CHUG, okay? Or maybe BRTAG PO is part of NAG PO's name and DBANG CHUG stands by itself.

It's the name of a city, okay? Or maybe this GI is supposed to be instrumental and it's, that whole thing is his name, I don't know. Maybe it's three different deities, LEGS LDAN, NAG PO DBANG CHUG, and DBANG CHUG.

But that would require this to be... Okay, is it three? Is it three guys, okay?

I think that might be the case, by the way. Okay. They...

We didn't, I don't think we had any of these names in Ben's book, but we'll see. Yeah, and they SIGPAD a city. SEMS TE, I don't know.

They burned a city. Yeah. Called stack three, three stacks.

But it could be a group of three cities, I don't know. So they burned a bunch of cities. This is like in the Bible where some jealous God destroys a city because people weren't nice or something.

Okay. Khyamjug, which is, what is that in Sanskrit? Vishnu?

It's Vishnu. Yeah. Vishnu destroyed MAGDE means armies.

CHOB GYE, 18 of them.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
He destroyed the 18 army groups. Okay, please read this one. And I think Ben should stay with you because this is about Drupadas.

Go, yeah, totally. Let's do that one. There are two of us.

The Jains, the naked, the sky clans. Jains believe that tiny animals around us, like maybe germs, viruses, okay, the little animals that live in your hair, they can be Jigpa just by Rekpa. Just through contact, just through touching at all.

Yeah, just moving around. The Jains do say this, just moving around your house, you kill a lot of bees, okay. Then it has something to do with they profess that the sky is full.

Yeah, huh. When you see the instrumental before that, it means they profess that the air around us itself is filled with tiny animals that are killed just on contact with our nose or our breath. Okay, which I guess is true, right?

Yeah, to some extent. Okay, so I don't think we need the Kali here. Yeah, and by the way, that's why they will wear a mask.

Jain saints walking down the street in India, they wear a mask. Okay. Well, let's do LOD MA NAS NAS PHYIR BYUNG.

Oh, yeah, sorry. LOD MA NAS NAS PHYIR BYUNG BA'I TSE So, when the students stay? PHYIR means to the outside.

Oh, so when the students are outside? When the students are kicked out of the monastery. Okay.

You kick out a student from your shala, right? From your little religious school. They must give back their LHAG PA.

LHAG PA, oh, LHAG PA. Isn't that like a word or teaching? Well, here it means vows.

They must formally turn around and say, I hereby give up my commitments, my vows, okay? In the Vinaya, in the Buddhist Vinaya, there is no one, not Mr. Highest Teacher, there's no one who can tell a monk to give up their vows, okay? It's not allowed in the Vinaya.

You can give up your own vows, but no one can take your vows away. That's totally illegal in Buddhism. Why?

It has something to do with... What did he say here? It has something to do with non-violence.

This whole theme here is that other traditions, they do commit violence. Angry God destroys a city. And then according to the Jains, breathing is a kind of violence.

And we're saying it's too far. They go too far. But there are many traditions where if you ask a monk or a student to leave a community, you demand that they give back their vows.

And that's for compassion, for reasons of compassion. That's not allowed in Buddhism, okay? I got it.

No matter what the person did. Okay? All right.

Now here's another one. Okay, I guess we're at time, so we should maybe just finish this one. Yep, I'm up for it.

Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Some very powerful siddhas. Siddhi?

What do you call the person? A siddha. Isn't that sad?

Some person's a siddha. Yeah, some very powerful siddhas came up to a king with his four military branches, elephants, cavalry, infantry, and... Charioteers.

Charioteers. Okay. And with a mantric fire.

Okay? Okay? With a fire by the mantras, they incinerated those people.

Okay? And our Buddha is Kepa Thuchepa from these kind of people. Yeah, he's distinguished.

Good, yeah. Our teacher is distinguished by he doesn't engage in violence for religious purposes. And that's a really beautiful thing.

Absolutely. I mean, of course Buddhists throughout history have murdered each other just as well as Christians and Muslims and everybody else. But in theory, in principle, we are not allowed to undertake violence for spiritual purposes.

Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful.

Yeah, and that's what sets our teacher apart. Okay. Cool.

So we're just kind of wrapping up his commentary of the prostration, it seems. Or the cool qualities of our Buddha. Very cool.

Okay. Yay! Thank you for a great term, Geshe-la, of this text.

Good luck with your new house. I know it's exhausting, and I hope it works out. Is there no stairs in that house, or are there just nicer stairs?

No stairs. It's really great. It's just all flat, one level.

And it wasn't that bad of a move this time. It was pretty chill. Just issues came up around the internet, and I was a little tired.

You didn't have to go to a wedding reception and then load the trailer at the reception and go to Sydney. Yeah, it was only 10 minutes away from where we were living. It's only 10 minutes?

10 minutes from where that place was that you saw. Oh, good. So you're still in reach of some good coffee shops.

I don't know. That's the only thing I'm jealous about. Can you see me?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, how far from the ocean?

[Speaker 1]
How far from the ocean? Two-minute drive.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, yay! 10-minute walk. Good.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, maybe a little longer walk. But, yes, amazing. So cool.

It's hard to find a one-story here. The important thing is this is a burnt rock coffee. It's five minutes away.

I know that one. It's over near La Jolla Shores. Nick, what's up?

We have a nice break. We're going to take yoga. Let me make sure that I put yoga on for today.

Yeah, you did.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
That's right. So yoga at four. Please come.

And then we'll have classes from 530 until 830, at which point we will finish term 17, the mixed nuts. We're going to finish the term with a Q&A from Geshe Michael. So please be ready with some good questions for Geshe Michael.

All the hardest questions you could possibly think of. For the online one. Thank you so much, Geshe-La.

Thank you, everybody.

[Speaker 2]
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you for letting us, allowing us to have class online with interpreters this morning.

[Speaker 1]
Oh yeah. By the way, we should be, we'll be fine for the regular Zoom link for the afternoon classes.

[Speaker 3]
You think? Yeah, we fixed it.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, good.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah. We fixed it at about 645. Cool.

All right.

[Speaker 1]
Let me know if you need any, anything else.

[Speaker 3]
Sagey, we are going to test it out before class to make sure it is all working. And then if something's weird, we'll let you know. Ciao.

[Speaker 2]
Thanks.