Гибсон Чан — Книга 1: Песнь моей духовной жизни (шаги пути), занятие 5

[Speaker 1]
So, don't worry. I think it's Gibson, right, Nate? Yeah, it's me.

That's okay. Don't worry, I'm not gonna steal your class like I did last time. I'm going over the policies of the Mixed Nuts, especially for Gibson and Tim, but I think it's good for everybody to hear because, again, we need like 20 more people.

We don't have enough people to help us. And it's a fun team. It's a really fun group of people.

We all have fun. We all like each other and if you can, if you want to join in and help us, we got work for anybody. If you have two hands and one head or even one hand and two heads, we very welcome you.

Okay, so one of the policies that the Mixed Nuts has is that I share the copyright individually with the other translators. So, if something happens to me or even if you want to publish your book separately, you're very welcome to. And, you know, the more books that get out there, the better it is.

So, and if you would like your book to be translated into other languages, you're very, very welcome to do that. I ask not to change the content if you keep my name on it. If you change the content, then I ask you to take my name off.

Okay? All right. Some people told me, Geshe-la, I'm going to rewrite the book and you can check it and tell me if everything's okay.

But I don't have time to do that. Okay? That's impossible.

You know, I don't, I'm very, very picky. So, it takes me many, many, many hours to check somebody's work, you know? So, you know, if you want to publish it separately and keep it the same, I'm happy to keep my name on it.

If you want to change something or you think I made a boo-boo, I'd say about 80% of 90%, 95%? 99% of boo-boos, people think boo-boos are not boo-boos, in my work, honestly. Okay?

So, please be very careful about correcting my work. I had somebody change the title of one of my books to The Three Principal Paths. And they, they, this is spelled wrong, okay?

Principal is spelled wrong here. And, you know, they fixed it for me and I'll never forget how embarrassed I was. There was a very eminent professor from Columbia University who picked the book up at my house and I was very embarrassed.

He said, you know, that's not how you spell principal when it means main. And I was like, yeah, one of my students corrected it for me. So, please, you know, almost all the time what you think is a mistake is not a mistake.

There are real mistakes and you're welcome to, you know, I have my work checked by two or three people and they find a lot of mistakes, especially Utpala finds a lot of real mistakes. And Nick is good at finding real mistakes. Word and Ben are good at finding real mistakes, but please don't correct the spelling to education.

Okay, this has happened. Okay, this is an important thing. All the countries in the world, they have different laws about what you're allowed to publish in your country.

So, not all the countries in the world allow books like what we are translating. So, we have to be very, very careful. It's a policy of my life and all of our organizations.

It's our policy to follow the rules of the country you live in. So, we don't do sneaky things. We don't try to trick the government.

We follow the laws of each country very carefully. And some countries don't allow some of the books that we translate without special permission. And that special permission can take 20 years to get.

And so, please don't try to publish the books illegally. Don't try to send them illegally. Sending an e-book by email into a country where the book is not allowed is illegal.

And then you will hurt everybody. So, please, please, please don't break the law of your country. Respect the law of your country.

You can always... I understand that in Hawaii all of our books are legal. So, if you want to read a book and it's not allowed in your country, you can go to Hawaii and take a vacation and read the book and leave it in your hotel.

Okay. So, please, please respect the laws of your country. You will get trouble for everybody.

And that trouble can be big trouble. And we would all feel very bad if somebody got into big trouble or even went to prison because somebody broke the policies of the country that they live in. So, please, please respect that.

You are, as a translator, you are very, very welcome to send your new book. We have 35 publishers in other languages. We have relationships.

The Diamond Cutter Press has relationships with 35 countries' languages. And, you know, as soon as your book is finished, we will send it to our publishers around the world where it's legal or where they want to publish it. Okay.

This, for example, is... Well, this is either Russian or Mongolian. I think this is the Mongolian copy of the Diamond Cutter.

But you are very, very welcome to send books for translation. We have contracts already that are legal. Contracts for books are very, very complex.

Sometimes they can be 20 pages long. And we have official contracts that we paid lawyers to make them. They're good contracts.

They're fair for everybody. And again, we will share the income between all of the translators after we pay the, you know, the cost of printing and we pay the publishers' costs. And different publishers have different policies.

Some countries, I get the royalties every 15 years or something. So anyway, you know, it's a big job. Katie Fetschenheimer, she works very, very hard to squeeze the 35 publishers and get the income back.

But there are great, great publishers in Taiwan, in Mexico, in Germany, in Russia, in Vietnam, in Singapore, in Malaysia. We have great publishers all over the world. So you're very welcome to, you know, I think it's nice to find a friend who speaks the foreign language and they can translate it for you.

Okay, if you can't find somebody, we can help. All right. We're trying to make contracts between Mixed Nuts and the Diamond Cutter Press, but all of this kind of work, I hate it.

And I always avoid it. And every time I start working on it, I find something, a translation that I have to do right now. So, I'm sorry it took so long.

We're working on contracts for all the books, and Geshe-la just needs a few hours of free time. And again, I always avoid it. So, I'll try to finish it.

Here it says, okay, this lady got rich from being a Mixed Nuts translator, but she's probably the only one. You're not going to get rich from these books, okay? To pay people to do all the editing, to pay people to do the marketing, to pay people to do the production, to pay people to do the fulfillment or the shipping.

And I've been doing these books for 30, 35 years. And it's just, everything's expensive, and don't expect to get rich on an ancient philosophical book. It's very, very rare.

What we need for the Mixed Nuts is not, I mean, the sales are important to help the world, but we need sponsors. We need people who believe in us. We need people who will support us.

And we will never make a huge amount of money from the selling books, okay? It's not a great business. Diamonds are a good business.

Selling books is not a great business. Ben and Nick worked hard to make our organization tax-exempt in the United States. So I know many of your countries around the world, they respect the American tax exemption.

So if you make a donation in the United States, you can take it off of your taxes. You can take some of it off of your taxes. And some countries that we have relationships with, they also will allow you to take some off of your taxes.

So just talk to Nick or Ben. If you want to give us a million dollars, try to give us two million. We don't take under two million usually, right, Ben?

We'll see. Talk to us about it.

[Speaker 2]
We'll see.

[Speaker 1]
All right, two dollars is okay. All right, Gibson, I got one more minute. We need, we need, we need to get our books more used in the worldview partner courses.

We have 14 worldview organizations. They all use our books. And it's kind of up to the translator.

One of your jobs is to sell your book to one of our organizations, you know, or all of them. Okay, so please, please, please, you know, once your book is published, you know, like I can think of Venerable Jigme has finished two sutras, commentaries, then it's kind of your, your responsibility to go sell it to Seiji Arao or sell it to Tim Lowenhaupt or sell it to Hector in New York at Three Jewels. And you know, design a course for them and tell them you'd like to teach your book.

And I know the feedback I've gotten is that the other sister organizations in the worldview, they love it when the translator comes and talks about their book. They just love it. And it really helps them to show their students that the material is authentic and genuine.

So please, please don't be shy. You know, you gotta market yourself too. And that's not a bad thing and that's not an egotistic.

It doesn't have to be egotistical because it's going to help a lot of people. So I really encourage you guys to to try to sell your books throughout the world. And don't forget that we have organizations.

98,000 people, there were 98,000 separate courses sold by DCI last year. 98,000 courses were sold by DCI last year. That's 98,000 people who would enjoy your book.

Okay? So, you know, just talk to Seiji or talk to one of the other directors or vice presidents of one of the organizations and get your book out there because that's why we're translating them. And the best customers for your book is the worldview audience.

And I guess total it's around, I don't know total, but I'm guessing around 200,000 people. So you really should be able to sell some books. All right, Gibson, I'm turning it over to you to make everybody suffer with our homework.

Yay. Okay, my last homework. Oh, don't cry.

You can have another one. Thank you guys for giving me the chance to translate this book. Oh, you earned it.

You earned it. Okay, so can you see clearly?

[Speaker 2]
Yes. Yes.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. The first question is, what are the detailed good quality of Buddha's mind? I'll give you a hint.

Yeah, they can see ultimate reality and deceptive at the same time. I guess you wouldn't call it deceptive. Yes.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, you wouldn't call it deceptive.

[Speaker 1]
Right. You see directly each and every notable things, all of them, because you know every separate thing and you know how every separate thing is. So it also happens in the sage's class.

But what is the Tibetan name of every separate thing? Giné? Yes.

Wow, that's a good. Hey, Gibson, that's like a $20 answer. Give me like a PayPal account.

I will add to my first teacher. Don't forget that Gibson pays an NT, okay? Yes.

That's about a dollar. Okay, what's the second one?

[Speaker 2]
How they are? Jitta?

[Speaker 1]
Yes. Yes, Jitta. So how does it relate to sage's class?

Do you remember? About an enlightened being who can see Aya in the direct perception of emptiness. Does anyone ring the bell?

That a Buddha would see an Arya not seeing anything during the direct perception of emptiness and people misquote that quote thinking. Yes. Yeah, Buddha can only see the Jitta in the mind of Sārya during the perception of emptiness, but couldn't see the Giné.

This is what I think. They can't see the Arya seeing the Giné. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They can see the Arya seeing the Giné. Okay.

So, yeah, the second question we are now in the offering of praise and so Je Tsongkhapa only gives the two names of the people of the master we are bowing down to. So Geshe Michael go to Gopher to find the other one. The second question is the name the six jewels of the world of Jambu and please give their English name, Tibetan name, and their representative text and which lineage they carry on.

Emptiness of Bodhicitta. So let's go to the first group. So who are the Jewels of Middle Way?

Lujup and Pakpakhwa. Yeah, but what is their English name? Or Sanskrit name?

Arya Nagarjuna, the realized warrior of the snake people. So what did you think? Oh, yeah.

The second one is Arya Deva. So what is their text? You didn't think so.

I don't know. I mean Uma's Wisdom is the main text of Arya Nagarjuna and the 400 verses is the main text of Arya Deva. Yeah, this is for the answer idea.

Yeah, so they represent the emptiness. I think you have words up to two dollars now. Yay!

Okay, so who are the Jewels of higher knowledge? Not word, it's answering. Yeah, can't be Rastopandu, right?

Yeah, can be. Yes, Rastopandu is the first. So what is his Tibetan name, Stanley?

I already gave you the first name. Oh, Oh my god. Okay, what is his book mainly?

Stanley? Kosha, yes, Kosha. So what is he, what he's carrying on the lineage?

Which lineage he's carrying on? I know me. What?

[Speaker 2]
Oh, wait.

[Speaker 1]
Between what emptiness or bodhichitta? Oh, Emptiness, I guess. He's gonna say bodhichitta.

Yeah, I think it's bodhichitta. Really? I don't know if my answer is correct.

Oh, you can check that Lam Rim poster and see which side it falls on. I'll check it in a minute. Hang on.

So who are the other ones?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, yeah, great.

[Speaker 1]
What's Vasubandhu's English name? Oh, it's a good question. Stanley Bandhu.

Friend of the Earth. Yeah, he has an English name. Earth treasure or something like that.

Yeah, you could say friend of the earth treasure or something like that. Okay, I'll give you a free answer from this one. Yay.

Asanga. What is the, yeah, Tibetan name. Unstoppable.

Unstoppable. And what is the main book known as everyone? It's about, I think it's about abs workouts.

Right, the famous Unstoppable Abs. It was a short video, actually. Okay, I already leaked the answer from this one, bodhichitta.

Okay, the last group. Who are the jewels of our value perception?

[Speaker 2]
Ben Kramer and Adam.

[Speaker 1]
Adam and Ben Kramer. Yay. Yes.

Master Dignaga. Yeah. Master Dignaga.

Orphan of Direction. Yeah. Tibetan name?

Choklang. Yeah, you answer 50 percent right. Yeah, Choklang.

Choklang, yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Okay, so the main book. Pramala. Pramalachika.

No. No. Samuccaya.

Samuccaya, yes. So the Isle of Master, who is the Isle of Master? Kirti.

Yeah, Kirti. And their name? Chukidrapa.

Yeah, Chukidrapa. Yeah, Chukidrapa. The abbreviation is Chukidrapa.

So which Pramala did they write? Ontario Vowel Perception. Amavartika, the one that I said before when I was totally wrong.

[Speaker 2]
Yes.

[Speaker 1]
And I couldn't find which lineage they carry on, so. Yeah, yeah. Master Vasubandhu is indeed in the widespread activity side.

Okay. And I'll see if, let me see. I have a list of all this.

I'll see if I can find Master Dignagar Dharmakirti. Okay, so let's go to the next one. So what is the six jewels of the world jungle gala named yours?

They named this planet beautiful. Could you say again?

[Speaker 2]
Jambuling, they made Jambuling beautiful.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, but what is the reason? What did they did to make the Jambuling beautiful? Commented on the Buddha's speech?

Ah, yes, because they made a commentary exactly according to Buddha's true idea. Does anyone want to guess the sentence from the Tibetan? I can give you some hints.

Wow, she memorized that. That's amazing. No.

Cool. Okay, let's go to the vocabulary. Tongue.

Do I need to have a philosophy here? No, no. Okay, okay.

Invincible. Maitreya. Oscar León got it right.

Invisible, yeah, invisible. As usual. He's the Spanish speaking word.

Cool, cool. Carry the load. That's a tough one.

Yeah. Slips the heap. And Geshe-la, you mentioned about the Twelve Mighty Deeds Buddhas carry on, but...

Not exactly, not exactly. He carried on the cinle. And cinle normally means the Twelve Mighty Deeds, but here it just means the general activities of the Buddha, yeah.

Okay, okay. Gender. Competitor.

Yeah, yeah, competitor. Opponent. Opponent.

Thank you. Nice. Thank you.

Yeah. All right. To whom do I bow?

Nice. Oh, nice. I like that there is a being.

That's a very nice way to start. There's a being who keeps the treasury of the whole summary and vice. Okay.

Okay. Including every stage of the path of these two great lineages. Profound view and vast activity from the Great Inner Way and the Garja and the Sangha.

Nice. The path which is complete in Rinpoche's Sangha Manorwa. Good, that's fine.

Yeah, I like it. I like the whole thing. You didn't get stuck in the Tibetan syntax.

You changed it around to try to make English syntax. And that's a very, very strong start. That's a very, very good start that you are not trying to follow the Tibetan syntax.

You're trying to recast it. You're trying to remake the whole sentence in English syntax. And that's a very, very good start.

So, I like it so far. I got several references from your previous translation. Okay.

Don't forget you're going to have to put the bolded parts in italics in the English.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, okay.

[Speaker 1]
And then that has to match the verse in English. So, that's an extra job for you. Okay, but it's generally quite good.

Sugeng, should we use Serlingpa's Sanskrit name? What is it? Dharmakirti.

Yeah, but what's his... How do you translate Serlingpa? I think we call it...

Golden Island. Golden Island, yeah. Suvarnadwipa.

Yeah, okay. So, it's up to you. But you might want to put Suvarnadwipa.

Okay. Nice. Good.

Yeah, did you notice, Gibson, the vidya is misspelled by Choney Lama, I think. So, it should be Rick without an S. Yes.

If it's Vidya Kokila. Be kuchuk tene. We took all the advice already.

Yeah, this is a terrible carving mistake. So, I checked the scans to Dampa. Yeah.

Okay, yeah. Boy, how they got Kangsadu. I don't know.

Malupan Lasene Dampa Chu. And he made these two. Perfect.

Yeah, I like it. You did a really good job. You did a really good job.

Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I got the two scans, but they have a different result.

One is called Jeylopsangjabe, and one is called Dharmlopsangjabe. Hmm. Wow, that's a very interesting difference.

I would say... Wow.

[Speaker 2]
Neither one of those are carved, right?

[Speaker 1]
Well, J would look more like J. You see what I mean? The typist couldn't see it clearly.

They put the question mark. So, I would say it's probably J. You know?

We really need a carving. It would be very... Yeah.

It would be nice to have a carving. You know what you can do also, Gibson? If we have enough helpers, we should...

Or if our programmer in Vancouver, right, Nick? Sorry, he is in Vancouver, yeah. If we could easily search all the books of Choney Lama, we could do a statistical analysis.

How often does he use Jeylopsangjabe, you see? I think you will discover that. That's the kind of thing that if you have a good relational database, you can check all of his books, and you can see the subtle habits of these authors statistically.

You can predict what he said with pretty high accuracy. In the old days, people like my Sanskrit professor, they used to count them. They used to go through all the books and count them on a piece of paper.

And we don't have to do that. We can just use... Gopher keeps a count of all the results.

All right, let's get back to work. How much of that homework did Emily write, by the way? Kind of all.

No. That's not your book. That's not your book.

This is your book. Okay, Gibbs is going to read, and I think Dr. Kramer wanted to check it. Oh, yeah.

Those are the two we just did. Oh, that's true. Oh, I'm sorry.

Okay, all right, let's go to this one. Please read here, Gibson. Yeah, and he promised us five sections in the chedjar, in the offering of praise, and he didn't name them.

It'd be fun for you to go make a list of the five. They are people. Each one of them is one or two people.

He did not state them, which is unusual for him. Okay, and Ben Kramer was supposed to take you through this verse, this section. Okay, Kanglana...

Wait, he has to read it. Oh, just kidding. Okay, okay.

Read it faster. Okay, okay. Just kidding.

Kanglana chokle tsangma impa rajang sunrat khunla tawe mituk yu jing gyawa sangbor yuwe ducha tarpa jube jungu de lang chokdu gyube gebu sunghi langhi rimpa bini zewe tuki gyube gyuba de changde tapke ki zeba yi tucha la selwa zebe shingin lang lau Good.

[Speaker 2]
What's Kanglana?

[Speaker 1]
I am going to boil down to.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, cool. Let's see.

[Speaker 1]
kre tsangma yin So, tsangma is a tsangma or ma yinpa. Yeah, what's tsangma, like samsang? Only.

Yeah, but ma yin, tsangma yin. Not only in that direction.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, right. Not only in that direction.

[Speaker 1]
But that's an idiom that means not just a part of all the sumraps. Totally.

[Speaker 2]
In fact, the very last word of the line, rather. Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Which is what? Meek? No, the very last word of that first line.

Okay, gun.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, rather than one direction of the sumrap.

[Speaker 1]
Sumrap, higher speaking spoken word in the world.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right.

[Speaker 1]
How many? Countless. Yeah.

It's zillions.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. Zillion, give or take. You're a meek.

[Speaker 1]
You are the eye? Yeah, that sees how many of the teachings and to see all the teaching.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, all of them, even though there's zillions.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Ching.

[Speaker 1]
Ching and? And, kawa sangbo. But how will you translate the tawa?

[Speaker 2]
Oh, tawa. Yeah, I'm sorry. Thank you.

The meek that tawa.

[Speaker 1]
Tawa like young doctor tawa. Okay, you are a pure view of the world? Well, you're the meek that tawa's kun of the rabjang sumrap.

Oh, yeah. You are the eye to see all the highly spoken word.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, right. Yeah, not just some of them, right?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, not just one end, but the whole kitten caboodle. Who's kawa sangbo? Kawa sangbo.

Oh, I guess. I don't know. Folks with good karma.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, folks with good karma. Folks with a lot of good seeds in their pocket. Yeah.

What kind of folks geared away? Dulja.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, who keep the book. Dulja. What's dul?

What's dulwa? Vanaya. Dulwa is the vanaya.

And what's the etymology of the term?

[Speaker 2]
You'll remember, Rob. Yeah, to tame, right? So to tame a horse.

This is the guy who gets tamed. Yeah. So it means like a disciple or a student who's got a lot of goodness in his pocket.

And who tarpa gupa.

[Speaker 1]
What's tarpa? Tarpa is a liberation. Yeah, this person gupa is it.

Drupa. They have drupa for it. They have a gun.

They travel. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Um, so if you want to travel to it, then you're gonna need a jungo. Okay. Entry point.

Yeah, cool. Well, ACI 10. ACI 10.

Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
What's the te doing here? Now that we know that we need an entry point for folks with, for students with a bunch of goodness to enter the path to freedom.

[Speaker 1]
Tse is going to tell us what it is. Okay. Uh, Lam Cho.

Lam Cho, the highest path. Yeah, um, he is. The best one you can find.

Yeah, uh, Girpe, um, Ke Busum.

[Speaker 2]
Or better yet, Ke Busum Ki Lam Ki Rimba.

[Speaker 1]
You know what? Please. The step on the path of those three.

Yeah, kind of capacity.

[Speaker 2]
Yay, cool.

[Speaker 1]
Three kind of people.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, cool. Ding Yi.

[Speaker 1]
Ding Yi, uh, because or. That very. Okay, that's very.

That one, that, that path. Uh, that's the Lam Cho is that very one. Okay.

Tse Wai Tuk. Tse Wai Tuk, uh, the lovely mind.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, um, yeah. And Tuk can also be heart, you know, it is mind, you know, but it also, uh, it kind of reiterates heart and the, they're not always neatly divided in, in Tibetan, which is nice. So it's like the loving heart could, could be loving mind.

[Speaker 1]
It, what Ki. Ki, uh, uh, to indicate an agent.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, right.

[Speaker 1]
Is the loving heart's going to do something for us, which is always great. Um, uh, Kewpa. Kewpa, uh, Kewpa is wrong, right?

Uh, or I, I think this is like, uh, like aroused or stirred. And in this case, like stirred or motivated by the, um, Tse Wai Tuk. Good.

To, to do what? Um, well, um, uh. And Drangpa is a, is a, um, is a positive, is a positive for Kewpa.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, motivated.

Okay. Okay. Motivated by the holy heart.

[Speaker 2]
In other words, uh, Drangpa, um, yeah, pulled along, uh, to, um, oh.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Your, your love for disciples dragged you to write this book or something like that. Okay.

[Speaker 2]
Right. Okay. Um, uh, Tupke, Tupkepa.

[Speaker 1]
Uh, skillful mean, mean.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. Uh, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Um, the, um, Tsepa of skillful means. Uh, the, the skillful mean, uh, be.

[Speaker 2]
Uh, I think it's in this case, I mean, I think it means like writing or you, you wrote, uh, with skillful means motivated by love. Um, uh, this, um, oh, uh, Duljala for, for Duljaz.

[Speaker 1]
Uh, for your disciple. Yeah. Uh, you, you, uh, Selward Tsepa.

Uh, you make a commentary to, to clarify. Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Good. Yeah. Cool.

Great. Uh, you, uh, you Shenyan Nams. Uh, you, uh, our spiritual friend.

Uh, friend Zhezhe Nams. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Lots of, lots of good buddies here. Uh, nice job.

Nice job, you guys. Nice teamwork. Uh, yeah.

Good. Good. Uh, so the fifth object of the prostrations at the beginning of the book is who?

Uh, spiritual guides. Yeah. His own teachers.

Yeah. Uh, Je Tsongkapa's own teachers. Uh, probably mainly who?

Uh, Rendawa? Yeah. Uh, Rendawa's a good guess, but there's one who's more important.

Manjushma Nathicharya.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, Manjushma Nathicharya.

[Speaker 1]
All right. Great. Uh, uh, do this one, Ben, with Gibson.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. Okay. Uh, so, um, what's gōne?

[Speaker 1]
Gōne is a transition word, uh, turn. It means like, uh, like from or through the door, literally. So it's like via.

We have the word via in English. Via, uh, via what? What's the word to the left via?

Uh, via the war. Via gupa? Gupa.

Uh, uh, prostration. It can't, well, prostration is an active. Or, or, praise, praise.

Good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Reverence, devotion.

Right. Um, uh, uh, uh, uh, ye, oh, is it ye guh, kind of, I guess, right?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Ye gupa.

[Speaker 1]
What's yi? An attitude, I think. Okay, you know, mine is like a humble.

Good, yeah. Yeah, with via gupa, cik tsam mayimbar, cik, oh, that's nice.

[Speaker 2]
Cik tsam, what's cik? We just had this tsam mayimbar up above, so it's kind of cute to get it again. What did tsam mayimbar mean up above when we were talking about a direction?

Yeah, not just one direction, and in this case, not only cik.

[Speaker 1]
Not only on word.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, yeah, so it's a little jiterna, like, I guess I'm not just saying.

[Speaker 1]
This whole line refers to the chakto. Okay. Okay.

I not only bow down to you through the world, but in my mind also bow down to you. Yeah, with my heart. Yeah, with my heart.

Oh, with my heart. Yeah. I'm not just saying I bow to you.

I mean it from my heart, okay? Oh, yeah, okay. And that chaktsal was in the root text up here.

Okay. We haven't had it yet. Okay, the next one is tough, and I'm gonna give it to Word, because I enjoy it when he doesn't get something.

So, Gibson, please read section 34. Okay. ,DE'I LDA BA'I MI RJES PA NI, ,GA' CI ZHES NYAN LA, ,'JOD BA NANG YANG, ,LANG RIM NI LA BYAS PA, ,RJE BSGOM PA YIN PA, ,LANG RIM CHEN PO'I CIG TU ZHAG LO, Okay, Word, you wanna take Gibson to it?

Are you there? Yeah, I'll try. Go slow, go slow.

It's a difficult idea. Yeah, I'm checking it out. Okay, let's see.

It's commenting upon the verse, right? Yeah, the verse says, eyes to see all the scriptures. Eyes to see the zillions of scripture, the zillions of teachings.

Eyes to see the zillions of teachings. Then our commentator, Tony Lamy, he has a comment to make about eyes to see. Okay, so Che, Che is the same as She, and She.

Yeah, I'm going to explain what is the eye of, which you can see all the scripture.

[Speaker 2]
Right.

[Speaker 1]
The zillion scriptures. Right, indeed, in this context, right? KA'CHI.

KA'CHI. What? Someone comment, say, say something.

Some people say, some people say, some people say, yeah, shen yin, shen yin. Spiritual frame. Good.

Yeah. La jor war. You know, like- Jor war, like a preparation.

Jor war means, this jor war means applies to, applies to, applies or engage or something? Unlike name. Applies to.

Some people say that the eyes to see the scriptures is a reference to your shen yin. Of course, yeah.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, yeah.

[Speaker 1]
Yang means we see people who say that. Yeah, it appears, it appears that some people say that shen yin. That the eyes.

The eyes applies to your shen yin. Okay. Good, good.

But, yang, okay, except that, but, okay. Lam rim, lam rim ni. But, in that's lam rim.

I think it's saying, I think, no, lam rim, you know, obviously, but, ni here, I think it means like only in the lam rim or strictly speaking in the lam rim. No, read, read jepar as jor war. Read jepar as jor war.

Uh-huh, yeah. Okay, so, jepar, jor war, you remember, we just had it. Applies to.

Yeah, applies to. Good, yeah. The eyes applies to what?

To the... Jepar is function or... No, jay, jay means applies to.

Applies, yeah, yeah, yeah, applies to. What's lam rim? Oh, applies to the step on the path.

To the lam rim itself. To the lam rim itself. To the lam rim itself, okay.

So, when... Oh, I get it now. Yeah, go ahead.

Okay, I get it. And that's the gongpa of jay. Yeah, yeah, so who's jay?

Jay Rinpoche, who's that? Okay. Jay Rinpoche, Jejongkapa.

Yeah. The gongpa, what's his gongpa? Like gongpa rabsel or...

Oh, it's his really idea. Yeah. Good, good.

To find what he thought, his true intent. Yinpar, lam rim chemo. The great path, the greatest step on the path, yeah.

Right, his big book, as opposed to your book, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Your next one. A juk, do you know juk? No, yeah, the conclusion, yeah.

Yeah, at the end. Okay, at the end of his great book, he has already clarified about his point. Yeah.

By the way, we had juk with the treatment of, I think, Dignagas or... Okay, the tail of the dog? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, good.

They tied it to the juk, you know? Yeah. So, when the verse says, eyes to see billions of scriptures, it doesn't mean your scriptural teacher is your eyes to see a billion scriptures.

It means the lam rim itself is your eyes to see a billion scriptures. That's what Tsongkhapa meant in this line. And if you don't believe me, go check the end of the lam rim chemo.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
So, guess what Geshe-la did for you, Gibson, for free. Wow. Yeah, thank you again.

You go to the lam rim chemo. Yeah, and it's a beautiful verse at the end of the lam rim chemo. It's four long lines.

And I think Rob Haggerty wanted to go through the first line with you. Okay.

[Speaker 2]
About one minute, Geshe-la.

[Speaker 1]
Oh. Yeah. DUN PA'I SON RA RAB BYANG RANG LA LTA BA'I MI GCIG GCIG GYI RGYANG NYID SON NUG BSGUN Yeah.

And by the way, in this final verse inside the lam rim chemo, Tsongkhapa is playing with repeating a word in each line. Here's GCIG GCIG. GCIG GCIG.

Here's DD. Here's GANG GANG. And here's KK.

Okay, he's having fun. All right. So, tell me if these words look familiar to you.

Oh, SON RAB. We just have a SON RAB. Yeah, the highest, the Buddha's teachings.

THUG PA means Shakyamuni, right? Muni. And what's RAB BYANG?

RAB BYANG, zillion. Zillion, yeah. Now look, look, it's two different words here, Gibson.

The first word is SON RAB. The second word is RAB BYANG. And he's being cute.

He wants you to say THUG PA'I SON RAB RAB BYANG. And he's being cute. Okay.

Okay. So, NAM LA LTA BA'I MIG. The eyes to see.

Yeah, the eyes to see zillions of scriptures. GCIG. GCIG.

One. There's only one set of eyes, right? That's Ben Kramer had this problem.

There's only one set of eyes that you can use to see all these books. GCIG KYANG NI SHUNG ROL KUN. And there's only one thing that can help you see all scriptures.

And okay, there's only one set of eyes that you can use to see billions of scriptures. There's only one set of eyes that you can use to understand all of the scriptures. And we're not gonna, we're gonna leave, we're gonna leave the other three lines for you, Gibson.

Okay. For when you come back. But, here's the...

What do you guess is the eyes here? From what Choney Lama said, what are the eyes he's talking about here? Long rim itself.

Yeah, the long rim, the long rim. Yeah, exactly, exactly. This final verse of the greatest long rim of all is talking about how the long rim is the eyes to see the billions of other scriptures.

Because if you understand the long rim, you understand the whole quantity of the other scriptures. Cool. Therefore, the eye in your verse is not referring to...

To shen nyen. Yeah, to your teachers. It's referring to the long rim.

Yay, Gibson. Nice. Thank you, Gary.

You did a good job this term, and I'm very happy that we caught you. And me and Ben and Nick are gonna find you a salary. Probably we'll ask Emily to donate or something.

No, I'm just kidding.

[Speaker 2]
That's good.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. Okay. Nick, what's the schedule here?

Well, let's start again at 5.30, 4.35, 6.35. Okay, I just want... Is Nora here? Are Seiji and Nora here?

Or Maitri? Here, they are... Oh, okay.

Seiji, just check this out, okay? Okay. This is the green...

The terrible tasting green scum water, slump water powder that Vi is begging me to drink. She's coming home tonight. She's visiting her sister who's very ill.

And I just want everyone to tell her, especially Seiji and Nora, that Geshe-la was drinking the terrible tasting swamp water during class, okay?

[Speaker 2]
And pizza during the breaks of DCI.

[Speaker 1]
No, no, we don't...

[Speaker 2]
No, sorry. And salad.

[Speaker 1]
No, we don't... Yeah, that's better.

[Speaker 2]
Salad, salad.

[Speaker 1]
Now you got it.

[Speaker 2]
Technically, we saw you... We don't need to disclose how much salad.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. All right, see you guys in five minutes.