Гибсон Чан — Книга 1: Песнь моей духовной жизни (шаги пути), занятие 1

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[Speaker 1]
And we have a special class today because it's the first class on a brand new text with a brand new old friend. And it's really exciting to have Gibson Chang joining the team. And yeah, don't forget today, after this class, you can stick around on this link, and there'll be a Q&A session with Mr. Ben Kramer. And we went through his text yesterday. So you may have lots of really tough questions for him. And take advantage of him.

He's a wealth of knowledge. He's been practicing and studying for a long time. And then there's yoga with Mr. John Brady on this link after that. All right. Take it away, boss. Okay.

Hi, Gibson. You look nervous. Don't be nervous.

You're gonna mess up today.

[Speaker 2]
I'm so anxious.

[Speaker 1]
You're gonna mess up today. So don't worry about it.

[Speaker 2]
Yes, definitely.

[Speaker 1]
Let's see here. Here we go. Yeah, I'd also like to welcome Gibson Chang.

He's been working really, really hard to get into the team. And it's rare that we take a new person. We take a new person once every two, three years.

And he just worked so hard. And he kept coming to class. And he kept learning more and more and more.

And so he really deserves to be a translator. And so thank you for your hard work, Gibson. He does a lot of other good work.

He and his wife, Emily, they do a lot of good work. They help a lot of people for many years. And they help a lot of our projects also.

And I'd like to thank you for that hard work. And I know it's not always easy. And sometimes Geshe-la doesn't even tell you thank you for months and months.

But I'm very grateful. And we're all very grateful. And it's good work.

We're doing really good work. For example, they are helping to raise the funds for the Spanish translation group to have all of these books available in Spanish. And lots of other good work they're doing.

So thank you for that, you guys. And Emily, thank you also. If he gets something wrong, just kick him.

But if you want to kick him anyway, anytime, it's okay. Okay, so here we go. I'm going to show you his text.

I'm going to talk probably in a few days, I'm going to talk about the Mixed Nuts. Hang on just a minute. The Mixed Nuts texts and what different kinds of texts we're doing.

By the way, this is a picture of Tsongkhapa that I asked an artist to try. He's a modern American artist. But I don't know, he looks like he didn't get any sleep.

Maybe he was a Mixed Nut also. But we don't have to use the Gibson. It's a temporary picture that we use.

And we are trying to cover every great school of teaching for the last two and a half thousand years. And there's one school that we haven't covered yet. And that's, you guys know, it's Lam Rim.

And I've been teaching Lam Rim for I think 11 years or something like that. And we don't really have a good Lam Rim in our series that we have translated. So, what I thought was that Gibson could do this.

This book was mentioned in a book that we were translating. And I love this particular book. It's called A Song of My Spiritual Life, which is in Tibetan, it's called nyam gur.

Say nyam gur. Nyam can mean to degenerate, but nyam can also mean your spiritual life. Not that it's always degenerating.

And gur means a spiritual song. So, I think it's really, really beautiful if we can translate these special books by Tsongkhapa. Tsongkhapa wrote over a hundred small texts.

He wrote big books, and we are translating several of his important books. But I think one of the greatest things he did was that he wrote small, small works, poetry, that you can memorize and you can use it for the rest of your life. So, for example, he wrote The Three Principal Paths, which is a short Lam Rim.

Where do we find that book? HCI 1. Yeah, it's the first course of HCI.

Okay. So, and I will never forget that when my teacher and I were traveling in the Himalayas, and we were on a terrible little bus, and we couldn't sleep. The bus was all night long, and it was terrible.

The seats were made of wood, and they were made for people who are about half my size. And I was in terrible pain the whole way, and I couldn't sleep. And we got off the bus for a snack or something, and some young British guy ran up to my teacher, and he said, Oh, you Geshe Losantarsi, and he said, Yeah.

And he grabbed his, opened his backpack, and he pulled out this cloth, and he opened it up, and he said, This changed my life, you know. And it was The Three Principal Paths book, you know. It was a Lam Rim.

And the book was all fell apart, and he was keeping it in his inner cloth. And he said, Thank you, thank you, you know. This changed my life.

I keep this book with me all the time. And so, we do have a series that we started 35 years ago of books that people, pocket books. Pocket book means a book that you can keep in your pocket or in your purse.

And even a small purse, not a Gucci purse. And you can carry it around, and anytime you need some inspiration, you can pull it out and read it. And so, my hope is we can continue that series.

We have two books in that series already, which we're reprinting now. And this third book is, I think, one of the most beautiful Lam Rims ever written, because Tsongkhapa specifically says, Here's the things I did to reach my goal, you know. Here's what I did.

And NGYAM NGAN DE LTAR BYED THAMS CAD BDAG KYANG DE BZHIN GYANG RTZA LO It's a very famous refrain. He says, This is what I did to get where I am. And I encourage you guys to do the same.

So, I thought it would be a good first book for Gibson. And I'd like to do several of these smaller texts by Tsongkhapa and make them available to people as pocket books. And then we can work up to the longer Lam Rims, and we can publish some of those.

So, here we go. Okay. Without further ado, let's see.

Let me get you guys moved up here. And we were very lucky. After I, you know, after me and Gibson decided to do this one, we found out that Choney Lama did a commentary, which is, you know, he's the best.

So, we're really lucky to have a commentary by Choney Lama. And here we go. I'm going to tell you all the rules for the translator's Gibson in a later class, okay?

Okay. Basically, no sleep, work hard. All right.

So, here's the progress report. I like to give a progress report. We're just starting Gibson's text.

It's about 10,000 words, okay? I don't know how much we can cover per term, but I think we can cover about three pages or something. And it will be about a 150-page book.

It will be a pocket book, and we'll publish it as a I think we can finish by next January. And then I'd like to go to another short essay by Tsongkhapa called The Praise of the Buddha for Teaching Interdependence. And it's a beautiful book about emptiness.

It's a pocket book about emptiness. And there's a commentary on that by Lama Quicksilver, who's... I just misspelled his name.

He's a famous writer from the Vajrayogini lineage. Very, very famous. And I love him.

I thought it might be fun for Gibson to read through the King of the Dharma book, which you can buy online. And maybe in the back of the book, in Tsongkhapa's life story, you can find the story of how he wrote this book, this particular book. I'm not sure it's there, but it doesn't...

it's a good exercise to try to find it, okay? We know where he was, okay? We know where he wrote this book.

We don't know the year. He didn't put the year here. But I assume he's...

I assume it's pretty late in his life, because he's writing a song, you know, people are already asking him to do something like an autobiography. And he never wrote an autobiography. This is the closest thing we have.

Let's read the colophon, Gibson. Okay. Colophon means at the end of a carving, they always tell you who wrote the book.

Sometimes they tell you where he was, or she was, and what was the year. So, let's read it together here. Nick, can you check him, okay?

Okay, here we go. Okay.

[Speaker 2]
Okay. Cool.

[Speaker 1]
Thank you. Okay. Okay.

Do you guys know numshak? A presentation? Yeah, a presentation of nyam len means what?

How to practice the steps on the path. Yeah, how to practice steps. This presentation of how to practice the steps on the path to enlightenment.

Okay? It's just dor du. It's on the right.

Yeah, it's just dor du, okay? And I'm giving 50 bucks for Jejong. So, I don't forget.

I should say, okay, yeah, Jej means to forget. Jej, this Jej, not Jej Songkapa, right? Jej, it's cut off because of the D.

It doesn't sound the same as Jej Songkapa. It's Jej, Jej, say Jej. Okay, if you're from Ladakh, you will say Jej.

But it drops out and it gets shorter. Jej jang, jang means here to purify. It doesn't mean Buddhahood.

So, Jej jang means these are notes to myself. It's like a journal, you know. Jej jang means notes to myself so I don't forget something I want to remember.

Okay, like the steps on the path. I don't know how Songkapa would forget them, but that's okay. So, Jej jang du chepa means I wrote this poem to myself so I wouldn't forget my spiritual practice.

It's a beautiful sentence, okay? Then, he calls himself monk du chepa. What's that, Nick?

Someone who has listened to a lot of classes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He went to Mixed Nuts for many years.

Sorry. He's a gelong, a full monk. Yesterday we had bongwa samten.

Oh, they gave up and went into isolation or focused on their practice. Good. Yeah, oftentimes a great meditator or a great retreater like Ben Kramer is called a bongwapa and it means...

How do you want to translate it, you guys? Wow. He's like...

stays out in the wild or something like that, okay? Stays at dalong. You know, ran away from the cities basically, okay?

Could you say like a hermit? Say again? Like a hermit.

You could... There's another word for hermit, but it's not bad. Or retreatpa or something.

You could say hermit, retreating. Lhosa Drakpa is his monk's name. Je Tsongkapa's monk's name.

Bel means what? Glorious. Yeah, it means Sri.

It's like Honorable Mr. Lhosa Drakpa. Okay, probably that was added by somebody else, okay? Then there's a place near Lhasa called Drok Rewoche, which means the mountain of the...

Nomad? Herd? Nomads, yeah.

Nomad Peak or something like that. I guess they wander around with their sheeps and they feed them on that mountain, okay? Nomad Peak.

And that place where that peak is, was called Denden. Genden. Which means...

It's a nickname for Ganden. Okay? So instead of saying place of bliss, Tushita, they say place of goodness, but it's a pun.

Genden sounds like Ganden, right? So this is a nickname for Ganden. Nambar Gyelwa Ling means the land of spiritual victory.

Okay? So Ling here means island, right? Or continent.

But it means a land of spiritual victory. Nambar Gyelwa. What's Gyelwa, you guys?

Why? Apply myself to doing this? Gyelwa is same as Tsongba.

Like a compost. Fine?

[Speaker 2]
Oh, compost.

[Speaker 1]
I put this together. Gyelwa, okay? I put this together.

So I believe... Gibson, if you try to look it up in his biography, and if you don't find any mention of... this particular book, you can try to see at what point in his life he started to go to this place.

Because that was later in his life. That was after he started the first great monastery of his tradition, which was Ganden. And there's a beautiful story where the monks are...

putting their money together and they have five dollars. They were worse than the mixed nuts about fundraising. But they had Vaisravana on their side.

I wanted to write you something here. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Okay, these are the two names... that this book is known by. Okay.

So the title probably says, I think, LAM RIM DUD DUN. Yeah. Which means the summary of the LAM RIM.

Okay? So sometimes they call this book LAM RIM DUD DUN. But more often they will call it JNYAM GUR, which means the song of Jatsang Gapa's spiritual life.

NYAM means personal experiences. GUR means song. Okay?

And I used to get confused, because there's... LAM RIM... Okay.

And there's three other famous LAM RIMs. One is called LAM RIM CHUNG NGUL. I guess it's about 30-40 pages. There's LAM RIM DRING, which is like 100 pages.

And there's LAM RIM CHEN MO, which is 500 pages. So these are not... It is not...

Okay? It's not one of those. I used to get confused between LAM RIM DUD DUN and LAM RIM CHUNG NGUL.

They're not the same thing. LAM RIM CHUNG NGUL means the smaller LAM RIM. LAM RIM DRING means the medium LAM RIM.

LAM RIM CHEN MO is the big LAM RIM. And LAM RIM DUD DUN is a summary of the LAM RIM. It's not one of these three.

Okay? So don't get confused about that. I used to get really confused.

Okay. All right, here we go. Dr. Kramer, you want to check this guy?

LAM RIM DUD DUN GYI THUGS BRTZAL NIM PO'I MDOD DU SA'O BA ZHES BYA BA ZHUGS SO Any comment here, Dr. Kramer? Any comment here? About pronunciation.

Oh, CING DREL. Oh, CING DREL. CING DREL, yeah.

It'll sound like CING DREL. Even though it's not an open vowel, it's traditional to say CING DREL. Okay, good.

So, Gibson, what's LAM RIM DUD DUN? The summarize of the LAM RIM. Yeah, the summary of the LAM RIM.

What's that CING DREL and how is it different from a DUN DREL? CING DREL is a word-by-word commentary, and DUN DREL is a commentary, the goal is to explain the meaning. Good, nice, nice, nice, nice.

Okay, CING DREL. And here's the here's the nickname of this book, okay? So in an English book, you will have the descriptive name first, or sorry, kind of the fancy name, the cute name, and then under that, you will have the sub-name, the subtitle.

But in Tibetan, you get the subtitle first, and then you get the nickname. So this is called NGING PO DOR DU SO BA. And you don't have to decide this morning what you're gonna name this book.

You can decide one year from now. But what say NGING PO DOR DU SO BA?

[Speaker 2]
The brief presentation, the essence of your brief presentation.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. And SO BA means clarification.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
So, illumination of the brief essence, okay? Something like that. But you have to find a more sexy English title.

Good luck. And by the way, titles are everything, okay? And the title doesn't have to follow the Tibetan.

You need a title that will attract young British hippies traveling in the Himalayas so they can benefit, okay? SHES BYA BA ZHUGS SO. What's the ZHUGS SO, you guys?

So cool. Behind and contained. Yeah, here and contained.

It's a tradition to say, I think it's DI HA RE SMRTI or something like that. This holy thing is living in the house of these words. Okay, so ZHUGS SO means living here.

These holy ideas are living in these words like a house, okay? It's very beautiful. All right.

Dr. Kramer, keep with him for this little part here. NAMU SMRTI. What's that mean?

Two thousand words, right? Yeah, I bow down to the Jejumkabha. Yeah, what's SMRTI GYUR GYI?

SMRTI is like a pure heart. GYUR GYI is very famous, we all know. Yeah, and YE is the dative case in Sanskrit, okay?

For an I. For a word ending in I. So it means I bow down to I bow down to SMRTI GYUR GYI.

NAMAS means I bend down. I bend down. What's the other word with that?

NAMASTE. You can go to the yoga studio they will say NAMASTE. When AS meets S it has to change to O.

So really it's NAMAS. I bow down to SMRTI. His name is clear mind, SMRTI.

GYUR GYI means chakpa, very famous. So his monk's name is famous clear mind. And by the way, that's Lobsang in Tibetan.

You always get your main teacher's first name when you became a monk. So there's a huge oversupply of Lobsang in Tibetan literature. And that's my first name also.

Okay. Here we go. Now normally there's some poetry beginning of a new book.

They will write some poetry. And usually they'll bow down to some holy beings, and they might promise to compose the work. And they might also...

What's the other one? Oh, GOS SOGS CHU ZHIG. They might describe how important this book is going to be for your enlightenment.

So that's three traditional reasons to have some poetry here. And... who's up next?

Word? Can you help Gibson with this next verse? And I'm going to take...

Grandpa's going to drink some coffee.

[Speaker 2]
THU RGYAS RGYONG RGYONG DROD ZHUGS KYI MED CHANG PAS CHEN PEN CHEN LE ZHUO WANG PAO TU SHAR GEN DEN PAMO YUNG CHI NEN CHI PO TU WANG MA WEI NIN MA TE LA DU Take him to it, Word.

[Speaker 1]
Okay. So I think the verbs all the way at the end. What's the verb, Gibson?

DU. I bow down. yeah animal yeah like bent over right about okay and what is the um took a took what's took the honorific for took is on the right figure of sin singing singing right so this is like like body cheetah body cheetah good and and joke your um draw means to go yeah go fast yeah swiftly swiftly horse yeah yeah and one it's a oh excuse me um shook is like powerful right again yeah the power of the horses of the fast course okay by the way these verses will often have poetic words in them definitely um and so I guess this so by that right Gibson how do you know it's by that yes oh by the way word I don't know if you know but the what's the traditional explanation of how the Sun crosses the sky oh it's carried on I could buy the chariot of the like four horses or something yeah yeah that's what they're talking about here okay so tongue means pulled by the horses mmm that makes sense and your tongue is like very pulled like it's like a intensifier yeah exactly okay you can do the rest okay good thank you um okay shit champagne champagne to benefit other perfect chin late chin late chin is the high high honorific for the activity okay mm-hmm activity good right yeah exactly now draw it here is a verb I mean excuse me is a noun yeah only being yeah the the roamers the goers um held a shot shot is another allusion to like the Sun what does like rice yeah rise or shine or blaze right so I'll do shot held is a I guess adjective here how does this what's the shower showering how's it showering showering you mean like a glory chorus yeah yeah it's glorious it's blazing or something like that the word what's the Sanskrit for path three three three yeah so it can mean glorious or it can mean shining also okay okay good um and who are who's Kelden or who are the Kelden what is that in the panel right um what does Kelden mean the one who possessed the virtues yeah exactly the the good karmic storehouse or something like that um okay um I think Oh Padma Padma was the

[Speaker 2]
Sanskrit version right what's Padma the Lotus yeah um yeah chick pull you know

[Speaker 1]
chick-fil-a only one good yeah one and only yeah like alone or something um I don't know the young here I know it means Tom Jay oh okay um yeah what's Tom Jake Gibson Tom Chase like a oh yeah all young he nian is what friend or relative or something yeah like gay racing in yeah virtues okay perfect uh too long who's too long too long the able one yes and the able ones mawa mawa is teacher hmm I think here it's teachings or teaching okay teaching or ways it to bomb out of the teacher the able one Lord of the able one yeah to one comma Maui Nima okay Maui new okay cool um Nima you know it's the whole verses and kind of allusion to Nima yeah the Sun good so and so Maui knew the song of the teaching well here it means of all the teachers in the universe you are the Sun and yeah and so you already said the verb to all that I bow yeah okay and big minion is a poeticism for Nima right the Lotus ring is that the Sun yeah yeah when the Sun comes out the the Lotus is open up okay what's the friend of the Utpala the moon yeah the moon because the Utpala is the blue is the blue Lotus the bed my is the pink Lotus the Padma opens during the sunlight and Utpala opens during the moonlight okay and by the way the reason they compared to the reason he compares Lord Buddha to the Sun is that he's just the one supreme thing you know there's only one Sun in the sky okay and makes light in the whole world nice job word Utpala you're ready to drag him through are you ready to near done by him through the next verse I don't think I'll have to do much

[Speaker 2]
dragging so yeah sure let's go okay okay please the whole thing we've got the verb usually at the end yes Chuck so yeah I

[Speaker 1]
post prostate and and good it's like with something right in a particular way I bow down my I bow down and make a prostration with respect always with

[Speaker 2]
respect okay and finishing the rest of that sentence okay who are we bowing to that's the first part of the line

[Speaker 1]
Jetsun Lama Jetsun Lama the venerable teacher teacher's feet right very good and that law would be law is like I bow down to his feet or at his feet yeah

[Speaker 2]
good very good okay now we jump up to the top okay no chin-chin key she way okay call where we know from from words text right sorry I prepared a different

[Speaker 1]
verse don't worry I know this park is Jay Park or this park is to this park is to take the measure of something okay so it's difficult there's something which is difficult to understand you can say but okay Shindu Park our very right yeah very difficult to understand even by low chance the big hearts this means big smart guys big big spot guy okay the Einstein's shaky Shen means other people so there are other brilliant people in the world they had trouble to understand one thing okay yeah and that's the something the mean the profound meaning would follow what's it usually stand for and what does nothing usually stand and yes yeah usually stands for emptiness yeah right usually understand then they had trouble understanding it but you like Bardella did you explain land very well good with your nunchuk it doesn't so would you translate this as like clear focus or analyze or investigate yeah it's more an emphasis on analytical skills yeah yeah okay so with your great analysis an analytical ability you really come and on the profound meaning okay and keep going with Bala okay third line rock

[Speaker 2]
okay coke drop I just pull out because oh that sounds familiar we know drop all right yeah famous right and then now watch in Noah and I know is a peer but no watching I don't know yeah it's just

[Speaker 1]
talking about shining shining everywhere okay everybody can see you're shining talk choked up completely talk means famous meaning as famous as the Sun's light what's his son would say you guys so we had we had that similar but we had

[Speaker 2]
that word before yeah you're you're beautiful deep or beautiful activity

[Speaker 1]
nice nice okay now what's just last note say here

[Speaker 2]
Gibson Oh fine Jeremy what's his name here yeah this is a kind of verse where

[Speaker 1]
you hide your Lama's name in the earth okay so where is his name here the first man the low low chain yeah good and the sample song good no song yeah Java good Jack but good loss on top of Sumati Kirti okay cool so it's traditional to hide the Lama's name in the verse cool all right thank you but I know it wasn't your job but I know this one is Sue gangs and are you awake in Singapore yes why don't wake these three Gibson okay thank you come this go to the end what is the work here Chinese Oh shower time yeah what does it mean I will clarify and then where should we go next maybe the real meaning nice and then I think where should we go I think can we go to the front Lum rim or candy or candy yeah what is he Kong is a who so ever yeah now this is the tradition you guys when you write poetry in praise of somebody you start with come it means well there's something that I'm thinking about guess what the most famous one is Kangi Lord rumor oh there's somebody who I'm thinking about which has a lot of wisdom and that's the price of very very famous okay okay so there's a something which is the time to grab his leg but shipper the ultimate form of the world is the nation great keep going again and then okay then the second line junk to lumpy Rimba okay don't you is like a Buddha in lemon enlightenment and then lumpy Rimba lumpy Rimba is the only the step to the step of the path yes and then shit shit Japan is very famous say I don't know she is a quotation mark and it only comes at the end okay they don't have it at the beginning so you have to guess where's the beginning you know so these two lines to say look what's the ultimate thing that this teacher ever taught it's called quote Lam Rim everybody calls it Chum Chud Lam Rim okay got it okay then

[Speaker 2]
third line hey hey I don't know what this referred but name name is a crucial

[Speaker 1]
point good on crucial point couldn't tick too good not tick too okay I think that's all oh yeah you gotta know Dil Dil is a verb that means to wrap to wrap something like if you have a piece of bread and you wrap it in some paper it's called Dilla okay but it can also mean to wrap a huge topic into a small book oh so wrap the whole thing as a whole as a simple as a summary yeah he wrapped all the important points of the whole Lam Rim that day means of all the Lam Rim okay that thing that's so famous called Lam Rim he took all the important points of the 1,000 page Lam Rim and he wrapped it into into Lam Rim Duba yeah by the way there's a segue here in the verse before he's talking about how he did great commentary like Padua and then he says like by best you did all this good commentaries but the best one you know is the whole Lam Rim like that he said talking about that and the day is Gibson is of all the Lam Rims I'm gonna give you all the crucial points wrapped up super wrapped up rupture and to thank you so again so gang who should we pick on this good I forgot to mention the verse before yeah what's a what formal step is that verse for this section for it's a formal step that comes at the beginning of a book that could the place we finish that um yeah somebody who said that Gibson said that yeah yeah that's $100 right there well he's yet to collect ferocious translating beast that's the promise to compose the book so this is where Tony Lama says I promise to give you a brief explanation of his essence of the Lam Rim and and the idea is that either you die or you finish the book and that's promise is the same for a okay and I don't want to hear any whining from anybody if you die your excuse for now we'll be alive 200 more years okay all right here we go who's doing the

[Speaker 2]
chins on let's go shepa jayway to so shepa is sprang jaybush on the jaw a truce oh sorry shepa choway choway I don't know

[Speaker 1]
choway shepa jawa makes it future participle to be explained okay okay which I will explain the Dharma which I'm about to explain here is what is the summarize of the ring steps in the path great which has it or Ram means or you can call it the sum of my spiritual life nice nice which was zipped by by which

[Speaker 2]
written or composed by great the tricky double the king of the Dharma

[Speaker 1]
yeah good by the way you see his name spelled two different ways sometimes it's with a B so and so and most often nowadays without the B anybody can tell me what song means onion yeah and he came from my area of east Tibet that had lots of onion fields so it means mr. onion field he's the king of the Dharma and he's also dr. key number now Oh our llama yeah great he's all of our okay good it was just a bridge okay okay let's get into it okay what what am I promising to write a commentary about I'm promising to write a commentary about Jetsun Kappa song of his spiritual life okay chunzom who should help him next you choose chunzo microphone oh cutting oh okay here we go Gibson number six okay de la soon to to Joe so Tom Joe so Joe so Tom Lucy sure Tom Juky Sabe Kepparo good okay so his explanation of a life is going to have three parts okay this whole commentary it's gonna have three parts first I'm gonna explain to you the moon road should you what's that mean when to a teacher put prayer memory good pray press good yeah offering of praise children means offering a place and it always came it always comes at the beginning of a book and we already had the church of for Tony llama and then Tony Lama's gonna explain that should you have some Kappa okay and then we get the mushy what's that the main main context yeah the main the main book content yeah yeah shun dun means the meaning of this great classic shun means classic okay sure okay and then I'm gonna give you the conclusion great let's yeah Kipper here means I'll give you the details okay of all three okay hey Kramer Nick what's juke in Yiddish roach you got it my name in the diamond business they call me a joke okay all right here we go I think cutting keep going okay tumble on me trip trip trip I trip bottom she's an ocean Wow okay good so some coppers own poetry at the beginning of his own book has two parts first it was that Gibson offering offering a praise probably to Buddha or somebody like that or his teacher and then he anybody can tell me Muslim when did I yeah he identifies Muslim means he identifies what he's going to talk about so in some Kappa's opening lines he praises somebody and then he describes what he's going to be talking about okay okay cutting who's gonna help him this we are at time both we got to

[Speaker 2]
finish this one great I'm trying to see who else is here like get my bigger screen how about she won she translating I don't know probably you

[Speaker 1]
oh there's one yes you okay okay here we go come along me day Tom Bonnie la la no more Kuru Manju Koshiya she do any law good okay we'll do this fast okay the first of those two categories which is the words of praise and identifying what we are gonna explain has two parts of its own and the first of those two parts lot la la means some okay it also means Los Angeles means in some in some editions it means you don't see it in every edition but in some editions la la in some editions you see not more guru Manju Koshiya Koshiya right which means what Gibson I bow down to my father to Manjushri the guru on the guru the teacher Manjushri yeah who's teacher children compass teacher yeah his personal teacher was Manjushri not bad right and then here's the commentary Rick Gibson you're ready this is the last thing today of your first class congratulations he says la oh no it's easy yeah who needs to explain that let's go on okay so do I mean you know receive the first line but I don't need to give you a commentary on that everybody knows he was his teacher okay wow means everybody so congratulations again Gibson and it's it's really nice to have you on the team thank you again amazing yeah and since you did such a good job you get you get to translate ahead of time don't give him too much don't make us look bad I'm trying to find a good one for him hang on that's too long just do the middle third of the book let's do 12 and 13 okay Gibson okay for fun don't forget you owe us a homework also okay all right master Nick how thank you so much thank you Gibson you're awesome and we already knew that and so for two for now everybody stay tuned for the question-and-answer session with mr. Ben Kramer gosh hey Michael you're needed elsewhere okay I can I'll send you the link again okay and and then come back here if you want or stay stay in this link after the Q&A if you want to do yoga with John Brady he's an amazing yoga teacher and he makes it really fun all right all right I'll see you guys again tonight yep this evening okay thank you