Гибсон Чан — Книга 2: Восхваление зависимости, занятие 15

[Speaker 1]
All right, it's time for Schwentanz Tower. Good morning, everybody. Coming to you live from everywhere.

Really happy to be here today. And we have a class with Geshe Michael leading us, thankfully. Oh, and Gibson's live in Rimrock, Arizona.

This is exciting. Do you really have swimming trunks on me, surfer? Do you want to show us?

I'm going to spare you all. I'll just have to leave. That's better.

Reminds me of a song. Do you guys have swimming trunks on over there? I heard Peachtree's getting a pool.

Oh, it's crazy. I don't like to go there anymore. We have to stop.

It's too crowded. Are you having a heat wave in Arizona right now? Yeah.

They want us to open up a branch in San Diego. I think it's a good idea. I saw just the space right on the beach.

Yeah. So should we go over to this homework master here? Yeah.

OK. OK. Here we go.

How do we do that? This way? Do.

Good. OK, good. All right.

Yeah, just for the older people. So this will be the last quiz for this book? You think so?

I think so.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
And I read the commentary recently, and I found out Shoninama has called this book at least five or six times.

[Speaker 3]
So I think it will be great to use the code as a quiz for the last homework.

[Speaker 2]
So the first question is, please fill the following blanks. Reaching what never occur. And elaboration could never be stopped if object had what, because what could not be stopped.

[Speaker 1]
Cinnamon. Yes. Thank you.

Yeah, cool. Thank you. Yeah, essence is one of the blank.

Good. OK.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah. Yeah. If object has any nature of their own.

[Speaker 1]
This is a nice homework question.

[Speaker 3]
Because what could never stop.

[Speaker 1]
You said elaborations in the second line. Is that again?

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, it's a nature. Nature could never stop.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. This is the records from Shoninama's book. OK.

[Speaker 2]
And what could not be stopped in Tibetan?

[Speaker 1]
Dopamepa. Dopamepa. Oh, again.

Yeah, Dopamepa. And the second one, in the root text, Je Tsongkhapa say the unequal reason why you taught everyone the very essence of the teaching is perceiving emptiness.

[Speaker 3]
But how our commentator Muchidharma Bhadra gave the comment to the Kyu Tsen, the reason. Yeah, it's actually the answer is down below. So.

[Speaker 1]
What's Dopamepa? Unequal. Unmatched.

But then it, moon means a match. But unmatched. Unmatched.

So he said the reason here means method.

[Speaker 2]
You are giving people method for perceiving emptiness. So which means the C, the interdependence. So our commentator think that the way, the best way to see emptiness is first tolerance of dependence.

[Speaker 1]
Nice.

[Speaker 3]
So what is the Tibetan for method?

[Speaker 1]
Tap.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, tap. Okay, the last one. Je Tsongkhapa gives what reason to prove that Buddha is a teacher without any match.

[Speaker 1]
He taught dependence. Yeah. He already smoked all his cigarettes.

Yeah. So there's this quote from Geshe-la. Buddha didn't just teach the dependence.

He taught emptiness with a, I think, with a dependent.

[Speaker 3]
I think this one should be.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, yeah. Good.

[Speaker 3]
Like a cinnamon roll with frosting.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, because for the functional, they follow, they think if you teach dependent, they think that dependent have their own nature. Yeah.

[Speaker 1]
What's the Tibetan for cinnamon rolls? Yes. What's Tibetan for cinnamon roll with frosting?

Kapse. Kapse.

[Speaker 3]
Ah. Ah.

[Speaker 1]
Ah. He tricked us. Because.

The frosting on the emperor. It makes the emptiness tastier.

[Speaker 3]
Okay, so...

[Speaker 1]
That's homework.

[Speaker 3]
Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
Inspiring. Let's just skip class and go straight to the...

[Speaker 3]
Oh! So here's my draft translation for the first graph.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, here we go. Let's check it. You want to read the whole thing just for fun?

Yeah. Okay, go slow. Don't worry.

Okay. You got the cursor.

[Speaker 3]
Nice. Okay.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, good. Nice, nice, nice. So, Gung Lo Chukpa...

[Speaker 2]
In the year of 19?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, when he was 19. Which was the chak kyi lo. In the iron dog year.

Okay, in the dawa dangpo.

[Speaker 3]
The first month.

[Speaker 1]
His gen chen gyi ma.

[Speaker 3]
His kind-hearted mother.

[Speaker 1]
Good. Ma lungpa means she had not reached more than... Okay, she had not reached more than shen yi.

[Speaker 3]
Forty-two?

[Speaker 1]
Forty-two years old. Yeah. Gung means winter.

And you know, sometimes in some languages, winters means years old. Because if you survive the winter, you're another year. So she was...

jang means number, right? So she had number of winters, 42. She had just reached 42 and she passed away.

No older than 42. And he had a sumo... I don't know this word, but I looked it up.

It means auntie. And she was tsewa. She had a love.

Loving, yeah. And they both passed away du chik. In the same time.

Yeah. gyu rim... gyu means the cause of their passing away was rim, which means an infectious disease like...

you know, like common in the third world. I don't know. Like COVID cholera or something like that.

Yeah. So the gyu means the cause of death, was rims with an S. So rim without an S means lam rim.

That means steps. But rims with an S means an infectious disease that goes step by step through the population. So it means a plague.

So they died of some general plague. du chik la... In the same time.

They died at the same time. This de means gone beyond. We see it in yang nyenway de pa, which means to go beyond grief, which is nirvana.

But in this case, it means they died. They went beyond. But they had tu gu mumbo.

Many... Yeah. In modern culture, they say hu gu.

Hu gu. Children. Yeah, many children.

Truk is a child-izer word. You can add it to any animal's name. So pak truk is piglets.

Piglets. Cha truk is little birds. So truk means...

What's a gay truk? Virtue puppy. A monk.

A disciple. A disciple is called a virtue puppy. Yeah, that's the Tibetan word for a student of a lama.

It's called a gay truk. Okay. So...

And they... There wasn't... They could barely...

sawa and tungwa.

[Speaker 3]
Eat and drink.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, they're so small. They could barely eat and drink. mumbo.

korwa means verb.

[Speaker 3]
Surrounding?

[Speaker 1]
Surrounded the papa.

[Speaker 3]
Their father.

[Speaker 1]
Their father. gyepo means old, elderly. And by the way, that's connected to the word gen, which means older teacher, okay, with a different suffix letter.

So there's just one old man had to take care of all these countless kids who could barely eat and drink even if they had anything. gyepo. This lu is tricky.

Huh? Not a body? It's not a body, it's a verb.

Does it mean... It means not included or something? Right.

Left behind. Lupa means left behind. So gyepor lupa.

He was left alone with all these kids. So lupa can mean a verb to be left behind. That's kind of what it means when you say ma lupa.

Nothing left over? All? Which means all.

Nothing left over. It doesn't mean no body, right? kong means mucur dangpa dre, our teacher, whose biography we are reading.

It's called Quicksilver. kong means it's a polite word for he, even in colloquial, and you rarely use it. It's kind of very polite, overly polite.

nyik gyelwa. Sorrow. Yeah, nyik gyelwa is similar to ngenjung.

[Speaker 3]
Gyel she.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, gyel she, yeah. He was disturbed. Who?

Mucur dangpa dre. Mucur dangpa dre. His auntie died.

His father's left with all the kids, and he was sad. Not just a little sad, sem me. Immeasurable.

Immeasurably sad. Okay, he got that kind of sadness. Then it is...

dani means usually a decision. Dani! Now?

Now. Now I'm going to go to sa embar.

[Speaker 3]
Do some retreat.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, I'm going to go to some empty place, which is like Diamond Mountain. Some kind of empty place. Sa embar.

When the people go on retreat in the scriptures, it's usually to sa embar. Some kind of, you know, Bowie, Arizona. Okay, out in the middle of nowhere.

It means out in the middle of nowhere. By the way, what's lu wan, nga wan, sem wan? Transcendental body speech and mind?

Yeah, these are three tantric statements. But the wan means devoid of conceptual thought or something like that. Sa embar shik tu.

This drupa means... Meditate? Practice, yeah.

He decided to do some practice. Usually it means to achieve something, but in this context, the next drupa means nyam len. He decided to do some nyam len, spiritual practice.

che dro. I will go to do some spiritual practice. He had that gong.

Intention. Good, nice. And then he shu that ne tsu to his lama.

He's asking for advice from his lama? Yeah, he informed shu, he informed his lama of that situation. ne tsu.

And then the lama, subject of the sentence, because it has an S on it, instrumental, by the lama, means that he's the subject of the sentence. The lama did something. He said, du gyu means you should.

Gyu means cause, but du means stay. Du gyu means I think you should stay at this reacher. Hermitage.

Hermitage, called mudra. Quicksilver. Quicksilver.

Then Gibson asked me, why did I make a special reminder mark to myself? Because that's how he got his name. Yeah, that's how he got his name.

He used to hang out. From then on, for the rest of his life, he was doing a lot of retreat, and he stayed there. So people started to call him DM.

See what I mean? Okay. I always wondered why he was called Quicksilver.

By the way, Quicksilver has rasa in Sanskrit. It has a lot of connotations of magic, transformation, alchemy. Nagarjuna was a famous Quicksilverist.

In Buddhism, in traditional Buddhism, it has a lot of connotations of transforming things with bodhicitta and with emptiness. It has a lot of emotional feeling for a Tibetan, if you call somebody Quicksilver. Rasana.

What do you call it? Transforming liquid. Alchemical.

Alchemical liquid, yeah. du gyu means you should stay, meaning there's a cause to stay. But du gyu in colloquial means, you know, you should stay there.

Okay. nye gyang tsam There's this kind of thing where they have made a word for a noun by saying two opposites, like short-long means length, nye gyang means so far. Yeah, and it means, tsam means it's convenient, fitting.

It's not too far away that I can't come and help you if you get in trouble, and it's not so close that I would bother you by being too close. It's a nice distance. And that particular ritual is jinlab chewa.

[Speaker 3]
Blessing by Lama?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, blessed by Lama. So when you look for a place to do retreat or some extended meditation, they often list jinlab chewa. If people have struggled through a hard three-year retreat there, then that place has a lot of blessings, and that's a good place to go to do your retreat or something.

Instead of just going to some B&B out in the middle of nowhere. Maybe the people fought there for 20 years in a bad marriage or something. Just typical.

Okay, so try to go to a place that has some juju. It has some good juice.

[Speaker 3]
Stay there.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, you should stay there. Sung, who's Sung? His teacher.

Oh, his teacher. His teacher said, you should go there and stay there and do a retreat. Because he had renunciation from the death of his close family, especially his mom.

When your mom dies, you have a special renunciation for 20 years or something. Oh, sorry, that's all? Okay, nice job.

You did a nice job. Let me look at your translation. Epidemic is a nice word for rim.

Nice. Yeah, okay. Yeah, nice.

Good. Good. Yeah, nice.

Okay, perfect. Thank you. Good translation.

All right, let's go to Grandpa's screen here, I guess. Get these guys up there. You go away.

Can't do it. Okay. All right.

So, I think we're at Google, right? Yeah, no issue. Yeah.

So, do you want to have someone read, Kim Sun? How about Jack? Do you want to read?

You could sit there. Okay. Okay, here.

Let's see how good this overseas program is. No pressure. Because it has a prefix, it's high tone.

And keep going. One more sentence. One more sentence.

[Speaker 2]
Gung lo nyer chikpar lobsang kyel sang chu gyel lobpun du.

[Speaker 1]
Den ne.

[Speaker 2]
Den ne. Zen Zhong je.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, we left the gaps of the lines of the original manuscript, so it's easier to find the correct line if you have a question. So we leave the spaces until we finish the translation, then we close them all up. And by the way, this particular biography comes from a printed book, which was invented by ACIP, ALL, and now it's spread over five, six million people use it, in Himalayas, western region.

Okay. Gung lo? When he hit two years?

Yeah. So, when you're referring to a High Lama, you don't say 20 years old, you say 20 respectable winters old. Okay.

So when he was Nishu, in the chakpak lo, in the iron peak year. Yeah, and there's a way we have input the years and the elements, so if you ever need, you can look it up in the database. So I checked, I confirmed it, it's 1791.

So, in 1791, he went to... He went to Quicksilver, Hermitage. Hermitage, nice.

In the dawa chupa of the same lo. In the ten months of the same year. Yeah, at the feet.

At the feet of the master Yeshe Peltung. Yeah, and by the way, all... There's several languages in Tibetan, and one is epistolary language, letter writing language.

And all letters start with deer, rob, or something like that. In Tibetan, you don't say deer, you add chung du at the end of the salutation. You say, oga chung du, which means, I offer this letter at the feet of oga, or something like that.

That's how you open every letter in Tibetan. So, chung is very important. Chung means at the feet of.

So, at the feet of this lama, Yeshe Peltung, he nu the dompa of a gilu.

[Speaker 3]
He get the...

[Speaker 1]
Yeah.

[Speaker 3]
...vowel of the...

[Speaker 1]
...phomux. Nu means to take a vow. Nu is the verb to take a vow. It's not very common.

It means to make a promise. He took his vows. And I like to go find out more about each of the people in a lama's biography if I have time.

I go and see if they were known for anything special. And if you want to, you can play around with that. I'm not aware of this lama, Yeshe Peltung, but he could be somebody.

He's not a major writer or anything, but there might be some stories about him or something. I like to go check these things out because in Asia, people do not write personal biographies. They write glorified biographies.

And you don't get a feeling for the person's influence that made him who he is. I like to go check out the lama. You can see that he had renunciation.

You can see that his spiritual life was partly inspired by the death of his mom and his aunt. Who's going to read this next one? You can go ahead.

Mr. Jack, start with gung lo. Yeah, and you got the cursor. You got the airplane.

We did this part, no? No, we did another gung lo.

[Speaker 2]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
One more sentence. Nice. One more sentence.

You're doing so good. Nice. Stop there.

So we're at gung lo nyer chik. 21 years old. Yeah, when he was 21.

He went to sen jung. It's like lo jung. A good heart?

Yeah, but sen means to listen. Sen jung means he went to study with this teacher, as his teacher. And this bis ten is a very specific spelling of the verb to rely upon somebody.

B-R-T-E-N. When you change it to S it means... Depend upon the teacher?

It means relying on someone in a personal way, as a lama, or as a doctor. Only those two cases. So bis ten, when you see bis ten, it means they had a relationship of lama and student.

So bis ten means take yourself to a lama, or take yourself to a physician. So you got to be careful with that spelling. B-S-T-E-N.

And then you have to translate it differently. And it should imply some kind of close relationship. So he went to this teacher, lo song kyel song chu gyel, as his lopun, as his study teacher.

And also, ze is the honorific of... Che. ...

to do, chepa. Meaning, mu chu dharmabandhara, lama quicksilver, ze. He did something.

What? He did some chak chis. Writing?

Yeah, he did some... So what happens in Tibet is, in those days a lama would write a book. They would scribble a book quickly.

And then the disciple had to write it out in nice calligraphy. And then if it went well, they would carve it. If it didn't go well, it would disappear.

So there's an intermediate step of all composition of great lamas in Tibet, which is called chak chi. Somebody has to do a handwritten manuscript. And then they pass it around.

People try to study it. If it goes well, they carve it. So what are they saying here?

So when a lama has a teaching, he just transcribes? Yeah, and sung tom. Sung tom here means the works that he wrote.

So his teacher wrote some books, and he was described. Which is kind of a very irritating job. I had to do that.

But every great disciple helps publish the books of their teacher. And that's been going on for thousands of years. Somebody has to write it out.

And it takes a long time, and it's hard. If you make one mistake, you throw the paper out, you start over. Okay, so sung tom.

Sung tom kye. This ga means ga shik. Only?

[Speaker 2]
Some.

[Speaker 1]
There were other scribes, but he did some of them. So some of the manuscripts, handwritten manuscripts, were done by him. And by the way, like in Mongolian library, we are saving a lot of these, and we are taking images of them.

And they're hard to read because they're in handwriting, like a thousand years ago. A lot of the materials from Dunhuang, from the Mogao Caves, that Stanley's working with, 50,000 pieces of manuscripts, are handwritten. And they're kind of cool.

And they're not so hard to read. You can read them. Seng gyang kong gi tse.

Un kyang. Bud. Bud.

That lopun. The master. What's lopun in Sanskrit?

Acharya. Acharya. He only shukpa for lor nyi.

Yeah, he only lived for two more years. And then his ku shep. His holy body passed.

Yeah, he passed away. So he only studied two years with this teacher. All right.

He had trouble finding a teacher who was hanging around for a while. All right, who's going to go next? Rebecca?

Rebecca, I just met a girl. We're going to start with Ge Dzog. You can skip this note to myself.

You got the cursor. No cursing, just the cursor. Nice job, Jack.

We know they weren't just, you know, hanging out and eating kapsang.

[Speaker 3]
We ate a lot of kapsang.

[Speaker 1]
That's why you go to Nepal after. Work off the kapsang. Work off the kapsang by getting diarrhea.

And we did. I know. I can predict.

Oh, boy. Okay. Tenzin Drukbuang Khelsang, chug yel sok loobun kye chen mangpo.

Go a little more.

[Speaker 3]
la chuk ka thay yapa shu.

[Speaker 1]
Nice. Yeah, Ge Dzog. Ge Dzog means prayers at death.

The prayers for his teacher. he did the prayers, which is to show that he was the main disciple. So, kong honorific him.

He, meaning Lama Quicksilver, did the prayers for his teacher. Drup means accomplished, or did them. Then from lo nyer up to so nyi, nyer nyi, from 22 to 32.

Yeah, from 22 years old to 32 years old, which is lo chu.

[Speaker 3]
Ten years in the decade.

[Speaker 1]
He pep to Tashi Humbo ten mon.

[Speaker 3]
Oh, he went to Tashi Humbo several times?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, and this is the fourth great Gelugpa monastery in Tibet. Okay, there's the big three, Sara, Jambu and Ganden, and then Tashi Humbo is considered the fourth. In India, it's only about an hour tuk-tuk ride from Sara.

My teacher served there because his teacher was the abbot, and he passed away there recently. Okay, so he went to Tashi Humbo many times. That's to show that he had the equivalent of Geshe training.

He did go to one of the four great monasteries. Kind of, you can't get that level of education if you don't go to one of the four. So that's kind of like to say, look, he had the real thing.

Okay, pep te. Here's a list of the teachers he studied with, and normally the teacher's name is four syllables, lo sang chun dzin, and then they'll say his state name, or his district name, or his college name, like gyel rung, gyel rung wa lo sang chun dzin. So here's lo sang tsul chun from jong tse, which is like a district.

Then there's the yong dzin. Yong dzin means tutor, and it's a very important word in the Prajnaparamita literature. When we study the definition of a teacher, it's called yong dzin, and it's the name for one of the two tutors of the Dalai Lama.

So yong dzin means, nowadays means, if you're a yong dzin, it means you have trained the Dalai Lama somehow. You've been involved with it normally. Okay, so he's from Guge.

Guge is West Tibet, near Ladakh, which was the original Tibet. It was called Guge. Far West.

Near to Central Asia, so it has a lot of influence through the Khyber Pass. Alright, yong guge yong dzin lo sang tun dzin. And then Drupang is another area of Tibet, and his name was Kelsang Chugyal.

Etc. Lopun Khechen, which means? Great scholar?

Yeah, great masters, mumbo. He got chod teachings, thayepa. Yeah, infinity.

Infinite number of teachings. Chod ka. Ka means teachings.

Shu. Ask. Request.

Yeah, requested. Meaning, received. Okay.

Shu means to, what's gongbu shu? Gongbu shu. When you take your leave of a teacher, you don't say see you later.

You say gongbu shu, may I request permission to depart. Okay, gongbu shu. Okay, so shu is polite, meaning he didn't just get teachings, he begged for teachings, and he was granted, granted teachings.

Okay, who's going to read next? Rebecca. Okay, you got the cursor.

Here. Yeah.

[Speaker 3]
Yep.

[Speaker 1]
Keep going.

[Speaker 3]
Okay. Okay. Okay, nice, good, nice, nice reading.

[Speaker 1]
It seems to work to go study overseas. Drung means at the feet of. We talked about it already, that's what he used to write a letter.

But there's a position, a high position in Tibet called je drung. So je means a lord, meaning like a high government official. You gave me a Chinese word that was used a lot in East Tibet.

Oh yeah, yeah, it's not dawang, okay. Anyway, je drung means you stand. Drung means at the feet of a lord, and that means you are an assistant to some important official.

So yik drung is very common, which means you are the secretary to a high official, which is a high position in itself. In the Galupa monasteries, it's the second most powerful person in the monastery, and I was the yik drung, first foreigner for two years or something. Okay.

Je drung, nobody ever knew that, and nobody cared. Okay. Lhosa Ngendun Trung Drung, at the feet of Lhosa Ngendun.

Here it means he sent. He sent. Yeah, he heard many teachings, okay.

He studied shabda. The sound? Shabda.

Sanskrit? Sanskrit. This is the ancient word for Sanskrit, is word shabda.

Shabda is the study of Sanskrit, and it means sound. Okay, so he studied Sanskrit, and you can tell he's one of the few people from the 1600s, 1700s who can explain a Sanskrit word correctly. Okay, so he...

and the study of Sanskrit died out quickly in the monasteries after the 1400s, after the transition of the Kangyur and Tengyur, and the destruction of India's Buddhism. It wasn't important anymore to study Sanskrit. So anyway, he studied Sanskrit untypically.

And nge nga. Poetry? Nge nga means classical poetry.

Okay. Sumtak means classical grammar. It means three reasons, and this was the name of one of the early surviving works by one of the young men who went to India to get an alphabet.

He was the only survivor to come back, and he wrote grammar books called Sumtak. So Sumtak came to mean grammar. Is that an acceptable variant, or is it just in this case they spell it without the gao?

Yeah, sometimes they spell it without the gao. But it should... I would spell...

I'm not sure. You can check. Nge nga means high classical poetry.

Okay. And then debjor. Deb means to put two things side by side, and debjor means composition.

Literally, composition. So it means how to construct sentences and how to construct classical writing. So debjor is an important...

it's on top of grammar. It's how to compose properly, after you learn grammar. So I've been through all them.

My teacher made me memorize those texts, and it takes about four or five years to learn those. Debjor. Sok Sen, he listened to that.

Dorna?

[Speaker 2]
Dorna, briefly.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Rigney? Sen.

Rigney means the classical topics. There are ten. There are ten major Rigneys, there are ten minor Rigneys, in ancient India.

And the first thing I ever wrote was an article about them for the Tibet Journal in 1972, or something like that. 73. You could try to look it up.

But there are ten major sciences and ten minor sciences. So the best of the major... it's not a five and five.

The major science is Buddhism, and then other similar sciences. Then minor science might be medicine, or the fine arts, like that. So he studied the chewas and the trawas.

[Speaker 3]
The great and...

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, the major, I think it's five, major five and then lesser five. He studied all ten. Rigney Chu, okay.

And he became a kepa. Master. Of all the classical divisions of knowledge.

Okay, kirtay. And he became chakpa as a kedrup. He became well known as a practitioner and a dharma.

And his chakpa means his fame was spread by loud barking. So Kedrup is... Sugeng has an author named Kedrup Tenpa Darje, or Kedrup Je.

And it means wise and accomplished, but it has a connotation of not just book learning, but on-your-ass learning in meditation, in retreat. So Kedrup is a big compliment. To call somebody Kedrup means Kedang Drupa.

Keshin Drupa. You are a master scholar and you have put it into real practice. So it's a siddha drup.

You actually carried it out. And that chawa everywhere. Yeah, everybody said, oh he's a real Kedrup.

All over Tibet people got to know him as a Kedrup. As a Kedrup? I call it wise and accomplished.

You know, the wise part means... because some people get wise and they never practice. And some people practice and they don't know what they're doing.

So Kedrup is better. Okay, all right. Who's gonna read next?

[Speaker 3]
Rob.

[Speaker 2]
Mr. Hargiton with the Ayurvedic Dorje. Right? Yeah.

Okay. Say it again? Chuu len paang gey long ka chik la.

Chuu. Really? Chuu te.

Keep going. Ney nen sok ku or sang ma. Den sang ma den tsar sang?

[Speaker 1]
Good start. Okay, Gibson, Gung Lo So Chik. So when he came to, 41 years old?

31. Oh, 31. Yeah, by the way, how old is he when he writes the commentary that we just did?

20. He's 23, he's amazingly young. Gung Lo So Chik at the age of 31.

What's the Sherpa here? It's honorific to accept something, but when you're saying he reached 31 years old, you say his honorable self accepted 31. It's a very polite, okay.

The author of this biography is being typically honorific. When he had attained the age of 31, in the ninth month, his Yab Nde. His father died.

Yeah, his honorable father passed away. The old man with all the kids to feed. When he was So Nyi.

When he was 32. His great kidrup lopun tsawa yong torje.

[Speaker 3]
Why is it called Roots Master? Chibam. Roots Master.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, who's Chik?

[Speaker 3]
That's the topic.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, notice the difference in the verbs here. The father Nde, like nyang ngen le denpa, it means he passed. And then ku shek means his holy body went on honorably.

So the different verbs for father and Lama. Gung Lo So Ngapa. When he was 35 years old.

Yeah, and then the ne is important here. Up to? No, from now, from 35.

From 35 on, he committed himself to personal retreat. From 35. I think he lived into his 60s.

So he locked himself up, basically. And a lot of great Lamas did that. Choney Lama did that.

After his mother died, he was already the abbot. He quit everything and he locked himself up. And he wrote 120 books.

So anyway. Dukpa nyam len means personal retreat practice. He tso.

Mainly. Yeah, he mainly committed himself to personal practice after the age of 35. Khyepar.

Particularly. Yeah, particularly. From the age of she chik.

41 years old. Yeah, good. Now you got to skip down here, okay?

After 395. Den sar dzang. Dzang dzong means to send a package, for example.

And den sar means major monastery. There's three den sars in Tibet. Ganden, seren, den.

Sometimes Dachin Hunglo is the fourth one. So he den sar la dzong, his assistants, all his attendants, he den sar dzong.

[Speaker 3]
Send them back.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, you guys go sit in the monastery. I'm staying out here at Diamond Mountain. I'm practicing.

And I don't need you people around. He sent them all back to the monastery. Okay, from where?

Quicksilver Retreat Center, which is in the mountains. So kukur means? Attendant.

Yeah, all the attendants of his holy body, meaning his assistants. Tsangma means kun, all of them. He sent them back.

Mye mye. Relative, close friend. Yeah, close ones.

And now when you're in those retreats in Tibet, in the mountains, you need someone to... The main reason to have an assistant is chu. Water.

Yeah, carrying water is a pain in the ass. And before pipes, before pipes were invented, carrying water is the... It's the whole humanity was carrying water.

So it's useful to have one or two yopos.

[Speaker 3]
Servants.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, servants to carry your water. At least you should have one guy to carry your water back and forth if you're going to do deep retreat. But even that, he did it himself.

Sorry, he had a few people left around. He had a few monks. He kept a few monks around to carry water.

Just smart. But then just before that, it says rang yok rang kyi che. He can manage a piece of land.

Yeah, the rest of his... Yopo means servant or helper. The rest of his, what do you call him?

Personal assistant stuff, he did himself. He sent everybody away. Okay, so now...

So what is the chu mean? Chu means to give somebody some work. Okay.

Yeah. So he said, you two guys stay and carry water and the rest of you go. Something like that.

Okay. And then he took care of his other... He cooked for himself, stuff like that.

Who's going to read from... Dene.

[Speaker 2]
Dene shung gung lo gye chu bar. What is that, bar chu? Chu ching.

Chu ching. Du che nyan zay bar. Teng ga pey pa ma tok du el che wa.

Nul chu ri tru du dru pa ho kone du da war. Che? Che.

[Speaker 1]
Che. Let's see how much more we're going to go. We're not going to finish this time.

We're not going to finish this time. I was going to skip the discussion, but I think we can't finish anyway. Oh yeah.

Dene shung. Dene shung is an idiom that means from that time on. Shung is the verb, zin, past tense.

To keep. Yeah, it means from that day on. What day?

The day he said, you guys leave. Except you two stay and carry water. Rest of you go.

From that day on, until he was gye chu. Oh, 80 years old? Until he reached the age of 80, so 39 years.

He stayed at nul chu. He stayed at Quicksilver Retreat Center. Except for teng ga means a couple of times.

Teng means times. Ga means? Sometimes.

A few times, he went for che nyen. Study and teaching? Study and teach at a place called tru dzin.

Which is a whole other corner or something. It's a place named. Pepa.

You went. Yeah, and except for that, ma tok, except for a few teaching trips that he made in those 39 years, du pel chewa.

[Speaker 3]
Most of the time?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, most of the time he spent at nul chu retreat. Quicksilver Retreat. And committed himself to dupa.

To the practice. Yeah, so when you say it that way, dupa means mostly retreat practice. He committed himself to his personal practice.

Personal practice, you could translate it that way. kone du da war. He spent his time only with that.

Dawood Zay, polite word, okay. At the age of, who's reading next? No, no, no.

Linzi. Linzi. There's something about that house that anyone who stays there can read well.

I think it's the deer blessing from the backyard. Okay, you got the cursor, Linzi. Gung lo.

Gung lo gyur gyur juk. Juk. Keju.

Keju. Hepa rav yun ku ship. Kakmo.

Chakmo. Chakmo hagi lo za.

[Speaker 3]
Dawa.

[Speaker 1]
Dawa. Dawa shipe se gyur pe. chid tor nul chu ri tru du ku shek so kung Nice.

Stop there. Keep sitting here. You're not free yet.

When he had pep tu gung lo gye chu... When he means 80 years old? Yeah, when he had reached 80 years old.

In the 14th rup chung. In the 14th cycle? Yeah, it's 60 years cycle.

That's how they count years in Tibet. They don't say from the birth of Jesus Christ. They say 14 cycles since the first Tibetan king.

So, in the 14th cycle, in the chak lo... In the iron year. Yeah, the iron year, the female iron year, of the pig.

Which is 1851. By the way, when I give you a year, for a Tibetan year, there's always an 8% chance of mistake. Because their year ends according to the moon, and not according to drunken Romans who invented the Western months.

Okay? The Western year is messed up. It's not connected to any of the three great connections of the year.

Sun, moon, or stars. It's just connected to some political upheaval in Rome. So, there's always a chance it was 1852.

But I think it's a pain in the ass to write every author's years as 1851, 1852. It's just weird. It's just confusing.

There's a 92% chance you're right. So, it's okay. Geshe-la...

He's not going to die over in his grave. Yes. And if it's the fourth month, it has to be 1851.

Yeah, okay, good. Good. Dawa Shipa in the fourth month, on that Sege...

The 8th day. Yeah, and that's considered an auspicious day. Okay?

It's halfway through the waxing of the moon. The full moon is on the 15th. And the 8th is considered well into the...

It's just over halfway into the waxing or the increase of the moon. And that's the day that we normally hold important ceremonies in the monastic tradition. So, it's a good sign if you die on the 8th or the 10th or something like that.

He died on the 8th. That's why they bothered to mention it. And in fact, he died in the chidro, in the evening of the 8th.

So, chi means late. tro means watch of the day. chidro means...

ngadro means morning. chidro means evening. At ngu chu, who's she?

His holy body went up. Yeah, his holy body went up. He didn't die.

Okay, good. Somebody's groaning. I think it's Nick.

Yeah, do you want to read? I think we can do one more sentence. We've got two minutes.

A kongi den salakah si de el ling pag ape gyuten ni go di tuk mar adeb pa po tul druka girpe grub tog kun el she pa de yin la lama de gu de rang mi sen sur ne da dre te ka shi da shi shi de pel she thag Good, nice. kongi den sal He's monastery. Yeah, his own monastery was dakpa.

We constantly have the verb dakpa in Madhyamika literature, which is what? The picture. Labeled as?

To label with a picture. Things are labeled. They're labeled with names, but mainly labeled with pictures in the manner of chocolate sauce on two ice cream balls.

I don't know why I was used to it. Why did they call his personal little monastery tsa shi gyepa ling? In a Mongolian we'll say?

Ra shi gyenpo. Ra shi gyenpo. So the name of his monastery has been put on the name of the monastery in the small temple in New Jersey.

And they say ra shi. They can't say dra. Ra shi gyepa ling.

And they prenasal a second column, which is illegal. Okay. Gyenpo.

Anyway, why was it called ra shi gyepa ling? The gyepa po of that gyepa.

[Speaker 3]
The founder of that monastery.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, the first founder of that monastery was the Druk kag gyu pa'i drup tok. Druk means upper Bhutan. Kag gyupa means early, another Tibetan tradition.

Drup tok is a nice word. Drup tok means a person who commits their whole life to personal practice and is not a particular scholar. So oftentimes in the monastery drup tok means someone who did not go the geshe route.

But they are very respected in the monastery and they decided to commit themselves their whole life to retreat. So that's called drup tok. Siddha.

A siddha. Siddha. His name was Kumpel.

Drup tok Kumpel. Lama De His personal name was Kumpel. So that lama got that monastery and gave it a piece of his own name.

Sur means a piece of his name. He took a piece from his name. What's his name?

Kumpel. What's the name of the monastery? Gepel Ling.

So he took the Kumpel part from his name, which means to increase in virtue. Ken Sur is the same as this one? Yeah, good.

Sur means to break off a piece of something. So Ken Sur means a former abbot. Like broken off piece of abbot or something.

It means former. But here it means he took a piece of his name. He broke off a piece of his name, which is Pel, and he added it to the name of the monastery.

And that's how we get Tashi Genpel. Tashi Genpel. If you're interested.

The biographer gave us more information than we wanted. So we're going to pick up here. Definitely we'll finish by next time.

I'm all ready to go on to Gibson's next amazing text, which is Tsongkapa's Changay Lekshen Nyingpo. By the way, I've been translating Tsongkapa's greatest book on emptiness. It's very intriguing because in that book, through the influence of Chandrakirti, he begins to formulate his ideas about interpreting the Buddha.

You can smell it happening. You can see it happening. You can feel that he stopped and he went and finished the book about interpretation and came back to the book on emptiness.

You can see it happening, and it's very beautiful. It's really amazing. Gibson's going to go do that text, which is one of the most important texts ever written in any religion.

How do you interpret the founder of the religion? That's extremely important. When you don't do that carefully, the religion gets corrupted.

Buddhism has sort of been protected that way. Stopped here. What's the date today?

9? 7. Okay.

Grandpa's going to go sit down. Gibson's going to need a piece. Today is good for you.

We can't hear you guys too well now. Can you hear me? We can hear you forever as it echoes throughout the universe.

Okay.

[Speaker 3]
Infinity. So anyone got inspiration from the biography from Quicksilver today? Yeah.

I think one of the blessings, not a blessing, because Geshe-la has mentioned before, a lot of masters, when they are young, when they are 20 or 30, their parents pass away and they start to set up, set them to the spiritual path. So I think in some of my experience, I think we should focus on the leisure and fortune of our life and try to seize the moment and do the practice to be the this is the turn I like today.

[Speaker 1]
So anyone have any opinion?

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, Rebecca? I was just thinking about how he went into retreat and that it's an example for us when things get hard in our lives to go inwards and not outwards. Because a lot of times, especially in modern times, I think when things get hard, we go to our phones or Netflix and this is an example of going inwards when things are hard and like not robo-clausing your way out of things, but trying to change things from the inside.

Okay.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, I think the most part is he got a big name and at a very young age and he doesn't hesitate to quit this kind of life and go into do some retreat.

[Speaker 1]
It's almost like another Lama who published some like really famous books.

[Speaker 3]
And go into retreat. Yeah, recently I heard I read the Eighth Style and I re-labeled one again. A kind of thought, one of the thoughts that's difficult to rid of is the big name.

Yeah, so it's really hard.

[Speaker 2]
So what do you think made him rid of this kind of big name?

[Speaker 3]
What was that?

[Speaker 2]
What do you think why Mucchidamma Bhadra got rid of his famous and going to retreat?

[Speaker 1]
Would it be an example for us?

[Speaker 3]
I just think it's showing us what's really important, which isn't a big name, but your personal practice and not what people think about you, but becoming a person who can really help people.

[Speaker 1]
Especially you have a lot of students around you. And you have the courage to send an oath.

[Speaker 3]
I feel really bad for, I was feeling really bad for his students actually. I was like, Geshe Michael, please don't do that.

[Speaker 1]
But he said he sent an oath. So the only thing you can do is to pray. That's kind of okay.

[Speaker 2]
So the lama have already think of praying to take care of their students is to send them to the monastery.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, he did have a plan for them. We can't hear what Geshe Michael says. The mic doesn't pick up what Geshe Michael says.

If you could repeat for us. Yeah, Geshe Michael say he, although he sent his student back, but he didn't send it back to home.

[Speaker 2]
He sent them back to the monastery. So he got to pray for them.

[Speaker 3]
Yeah, like he didn't abandon them. He had a plan for them to succeed even when he was in retreat.

[Speaker 1]
He probably needed momo makers at the monastery. So Geshe Michael said they probably need some momo maker around in the monastery. Okay, anyone have any?

[Speaker 3]
It's more of a personal question. I've had a question lately about oftentimes in my practice, I find that I have too many good options. Like which one do I choose?

And the recent question I've had is it's a personal question. My father got sick again, and I've been trying to figure out when to go visit him. And I've been asking the question, well, how do I choose which one?

Like, which is the best karma to choose? And at least today I got an answer. I don't know if it's the official answer.

But the way that language was used in the biography when he said his father died versus his mama died. It seemed it helped me a little bit. But I don't know if that's what I'm always going to choose.

But at least in this biography, it showed like it's not that it's a bad karma. But it's like what's the level of language being used? What might be the highest karma to choose?

If there's a conflict. And it's kind of annoying sometimes when you have conflicts like that. Like what's the best thing to choose, I guess.

So that's what I want to share.

[Speaker 1]
I was just wondering, such a great lama writing good books, teaching a lot of great students, became wise and accomplished, and then he went on retreat for 35 years. So imagine if he were to stay and continue teaching and writing, probably we would have much, much more literatures coming out of his excellent brain. So I was thinking, could this be, this is always a complaint from Cynthia about me.

When I do teaching, I like to give a lot of contents. So she always told me, come on, it's not about content, it's about how people absorb and use it in life. So I was thinking probably this lama, Quicksilver Lama, is trying to tell us that, hey, content is content, but use it in your life.

And yeah, that's why he went for 35 years retreat, which is, I mean, to a normal person like me, it felt like a bit wasted. Such an excellent life and he went there for 35 years, but I think that's sort of a wake-up call for me, I think. That's what I want to say.

Thank you.

[Speaker 3]
Adam?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, I kind of feel like I got some personal like a personal message to you regarding retreat. So I turned 41 this year and I remember in the biography it was saying that when he turned 41, he kind of went into, you know, personal solitary practice. So just wanted to tell all you guys out there, I'll see you in 40 years.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, where can I serve you? Where are you going to be?

[Speaker 3]
Oh my goodness. I'll probably be right where I am. Do you need one to fetch the water for you?

[Speaker 1]
I want in there. He's got that Coca-Cola billboard in the back. Yeah, I think that's why you're having fun.

Yeah.

[Speaker 2]
In early age of Muchidama's life, he request a lot of teaching from his teachers, especially about the language. So I don't know in his mind that time, probably he already have a goal in the future.

[Speaker 3]
He want to translate some Sanskrit literature into Tibetan and he also composed a lot of his own text. So I don't know when I read Muchidama Bajra's text, it feels so, how to say, a friend is talking to you and you don't feel so difficult to comprehend his words in order to get the concept.

[Speaker 2]
So I think he have a great writing skill.

[Speaker 3]
Anyone else? No? Okay.

9.15? Yeah, okay. Yeah, and thank you.

Is Juan Aso here?

[Speaker 2]
Hello, Gibson. I'm here. What's up?

How are you? What? Are you happy?

You've got a suntan. What? Yes, yes, yes.

It's the Mexican weather. But it's very cool. Are you happy to be in Arizona?

Last time I see you, we meet in Japan in the event of the Heart Sutra commentaries. Very nice to see you. How long are you going to stay?

Yes, yes. How long are you going to be in Arizona this time? We are going to stay here at the end of November and we'll go to Mountain.

Very well. Okay, see you there soon then. Okay, so I'm going to start presenting some of the news that are happening.

First, I want to say I'm very interested, Adam, if you're there hearing. I don't know if you were joking. I thought you were joking.

I was expecting laughing and smiles, but then you didn't.

[Speaker 1]
So I don't know.

[Speaker 2]
You're for real? Or what? I don't know.

No, no, no, no. It was just joking because it kind of sounds like Multidrama Barger entered a 40-year retreat. So, I was kind of just joking.

I'm not entirely awake yet. Plus, I was waiting to hear other people laughing and then... I was waiting for you to laugh.

You see? We were like... Okay, okay.

But it's cool. And of course, I bet for many people, this idea of eventually, at some point in our lives, to do a long retreat is very attractive. Maybe in the future there are chances to do that.

But just when I hear you, I was like, wow, that's amazing. But you say, okay, I'm going for four years. But anyways, it's a good joke and it's a good practice as well.

So either way... I've still got... I've still got two books we're translating to.

So I think I need to finish those up. That's correct. Actually, I was wondering, what's going to happen with his book?

[Speaker 1]
No, I've still got a lot of work I'm committed to.

[Speaker 2]
Very well. Very well. And you have your baby as well.

Maybe when she's older. But... Alright.

I'm going to present some of the news that are happening these days around the worldview organizations. Today, I have to share my own screen. So let me open it for you.

One second. Alright. Share screen.

Share sound. Okay. This is what we have for today.

First of all, we are very happy and very glad to hear that our dear friend, Jikme, she had to go through a little surgery at the hospital. But she's at home doing well. We want to wish her best and quick healing very soon.

Yeah, I guess you might call in his daily update emails that you can sign up if you're interested. Just talk to Lindsey. He told us about this.

So it was very wonderful to hear Jikme is doing very well. And we sent her our love and best best wishes. So we are rejoicing about that.

And please stay and please keep being our friend and keep helping us. Thank you so much for everything you do. Also, last Saturday, we were talking about this 25th anniversary of The Garden.

This is a wonderful book. I've seen how it's very interesting. Sometimes you talk to people, they are interested in different aspects of these teachings.

To me, it's very fun to try to guess what kind of book will be a good, nice introduction for people. I think The Garden is like a very, very complete book that summarizes a lot of the essential, very deep topics that we study here. So it's a great, great book.

And the format that is written is also very wonderful. It's like a story mode, but very, very full of deep teachings and meaningful teachings. So you can check it out.

Talk to Rosa or follow the QR code. Next. Okay.

Today and tomorrow, Earl is having these teachings on the Inner Kingdom, sharing some of the teachings Geshe Michael was teaching, as we were just mentioning, in one of these three-year retreats that he did. So if you missed today because it already happened, you can do it tomorrow. So there is the QR code.

And to remind you that in November, YSI is going to be having the last chapter on the Hatha Yoga Pradipika. Profound Partnerships and Unmatched Joy is the title of this program, November 14 to November 25 in the Sedona College, Sedona, Arizona. Again, we want to keep inviting you to do some research.

If you're interested in the Innovation Retreats, I think it's really, really wonderful what they are about to do, starting in September the 9th. This time the group is open for English-speaker people as well, and we have a new video that we would like to share with you. It's a very cool video.

It's very short, so I'm going to share it with you. I just need to stop sharing the screen for a sec and open it here. Okay.

There you go. I hope you can see my screen. And this is the website.

Last time I made a mistake trying to share the website, but this is the correct one. You can see InnovationRetreats.com. Wonderful website.

Then if you go there, you can see this video. I'm going to play it for you. Let me know if you can hear the sound.

Oh, wow. I don't know if I opened the screen big, but let's try.

[Speaker 1]
And you, as a group of people who are about to... The art of retreat has been lost in the modern world. And you, as a group of people who are about to undertake an IR retreat, you kind of have a responsibility and an opportunity to bring back to the world one of the greatest skills and most valuable skills in human history.

You guys are so lucky to come to one of the first IR retreats in history because you are the guinea pigs who are going to prove to the whole world, the whole modern world, that this ancient art of retreat has an extremely valuable place in modern life. A person who has developed their retreat skills with IR is a person who is confident, a person who is highly, highly creative and very successful. When you are confident, creative and successful, you are also really having fun with your whole life.

If you are already innovative and successful, you have no idea how much more innovative and successful you will be after an IR retreat.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, so there you go. If you want to hear more about it, go to the website. You can watch the video again or research for more details on how to sign up there.

Okay, let me keep showing you the news. Sorry that I'm handling my own screen today. Multitasking.

Yeah. We have the QR code if you want to follow. Why is it...

Can you see the screen? I hope so.

[Speaker 3]
It's apparently loading.

[Speaker 2]
It's a what?

[Speaker 1]
Apparently, it's loading.

[Speaker 2]
There it is. Wonderful. You can follow this QR code as well for the Innovation Retreats.

Also to remind you that Tim Lowenhaupt is doing the translation of the Steps on the Path. He's following the Schwanzhans Tower style where line by line, he goes through the ancient Asian language, Tibetan, that we're studying. And then it's about learning the language itself and learning the content.

He's doing this on Wednesdays 8 to 9 a.m. Arizona time. And just to let you know that on Monday, we're going to have a special interview with the Diamond Silk Entrepreneur University team. It's cooking.

On Monday, we're going to be talking about very cool news they have to share with us. And finally, next Saturday, we will be having also an interview with Rachel Webb representing 3YULES. She's going to be talking about the meditation, the famous meditation teacher training that 3YULES organizes every year.

So that's the news for now. We have a few more minutes. And for that, we have our great friends from living these days in Guadalajara.

It's Aisha and Anatole. They are doing wonderful, wonderful projects, and I would like to invite them to the screen if someone can help me to pin them. And they are somewhere around.

They have very cool news to share. But they are muted. Oscar is there.

I see him.

[Speaker 1]
Now we can talk.

[Speaker 2]
How are you doing?

[Speaker 1]
We're great. Nice to see you again.

[Speaker 2]
Nice to see you. So where are you and what are you doing? What is that green screen over there?

[Speaker 1]
You explain, Mr. Innovation. We were going to show you some videos back here. It's We got reverb going on.

Close that.

[Speaker 2]
Hello? We hear you well. We don't hear you.

So yeah, we just we have been going to the parks a couple weeks ago. Like we were showing, we went to the main park of the kids park. And it's a park that actually Hector helped to design.

And we had a big festival there. And we showed some clips from that.

[Speaker 1]
But today we want to share with you afterwards. We've been going to this park that's nearby. It's a lot of children that are I don't want to call them orphans, but they kind of like hang out in the park pretty much alone.

And they don't have much to help them.

[Speaker 2]
So the government invited us to go there and start to introduce healthy lifestyle habits to them. So we've been going for the past two weeks, three weeks. And we have some clips to just kind of share with you from this computer.

And we'll just hold it up to the camera. Basically it's a park where the kids are so alone and it's the only place where they can go out to play that a lot of amazing things happen. But also it's a park where they say that a lot of dangerous things happen more towards dusk.

And we've been trying to shift that energy and get the kids instead of getting into gangs and fighting and doing dangerous things, we were hoping to get them to use their energy to play soccer with Oscar, to play DJ with Anatole, to drink healthy things, to be with Hector and play and just be happy. So we're going to share with you some of those videos of those moments where we were really fortunate to throw parties and a lot of rain, feasts.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, mixed with rain because here's the rainy season so even the rain couldn't stop us from keep feeding everybody and dancing.

[Speaker 2]
It was really beautiful and we hope that we can keep helping these kids that they just need love, they just need some attention, they need education. So we're trying to provide a little bit more of that with our GSB program. Yeah, so we went out and got like 160 Beyond Burgers, like these are veggie burgers, and hot dogs, vegan hot dogs.

And so we made a big cookout for them and then yesterday we did, we brought our friend that cuts coconuts and so everybody got like fresh coconuts. Some people said that they haven't had a, even though there's coconuts all over Mexico, they're kind of luxurious. Some people said they haven't had a coconut for years.

So they were really enjoying everything we were sharing. Some of them even couldn't believe that the veggie burgers were veggie. They thought they were real meat.

And we were like, no, you don't need to eat meat. So it was also very interesting for them to find out about healthy but very yummy things for them.

[Speaker 1]
Okay, so we're going to play you some footage of one of the first weeks we were there. And this is like, how long did the kids stay here for? They were still here.

They're just hanging out.

[Speaker 2]
The park was covered in glass, the basketball court was covered in hundreds of bottles of glass, like and even whole bottles like broken and many many pieces of glass. So we swept all the glass up for them. And so the, which was great because a lot of kids started falling right in front of us and we could see that they could easily cut themselves.

So then we went and did the cookout. I'm going to show you a couple clips of that.

[Speaker 1]
There were some older people, young people, parents.

[Speaker 2]
And we made them smoothies. Can you hear us over there? It seems that there are some connection problems, but also the time is up.

So I think we will have to talk to them again soon and they can share with us the videos or something. But I guess that's all for all. And next Monday, interview with DSEU.

Next Saturday, interview with Rachel Webb from 3YULES. So it's great to see you all. Thank you for coming.

And if everything goes well, see you again in Monday. Have a great weekend. See you later.

Best regards to all. Thank you for everything you're doing. Best wishes, Gibson and Adam as well.

If you ever do a four-year retreat, success. Good to see you. Congratulations for your new surfboard.

I was talking to Nick about that the other day. He said you're doing well. We were talking about...

That's great. To me, it's really a long learning curve. That's a sport that really takes time.

But he said you're doing well. So that's exciting. See you soon then.

Best wishes. See you, Juan. See you.

Good job, man. Thank you. You too.

[Speaker 3]
Save all the chats.