Гибсон Чан — Книга 2: Восхваление зависимости, занятие 12

[Speaker 2]
Hi there, good evening, good morning, good afternoon.

[Speaker 1]
Hi Ben, I don't hear you.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, does anyone else hear me?

[Speaker 1]
Yes, I hear you.

[Speaker 2]
Oh, I think it's you, they all hear me.

[Speaker 1]
Oh, I think it might be you. Let's all sing songs to Geshe Michael.

[Speaker 2]
Good, hi. Nick is with us in spirit, and more than in spirit, he's in an airport and he's online, but he didn't trust that he could be as handsome as he normally is, and so he's with us, but asked me to introduce and get the honor of thanking you, Geshe Michael, for spending time with us this evening. And you don't need that button, you look much more...

[Speaker 1]
My wife says I'm trying to look sexy.

[Speaker 2]
That's it, we need to get you some gold medallions would really set it off nicely.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, okay. So where is... Hi everybody, just wanted to say hi, thank you.

Hi, we just walked in, Nick. Yep, yep. We went on a trip to Dyer Mountain to collect money for next month.

Brilliant, thank you so much for doing that, and thank you, Nick, for going to the meeting, and thank you, Geshe Michael, for holding the meetings and taking such sweet care of all of us, and all those who take care of us, and that's everyone here is doing their part, financially, or by participating, by helping the thing run, or by just giving a darn and participating in what is so special and important to all of us. And we thank you very much for spending the time. Gibson, is it true that you are standing by and ready for class?

[Speaker 2]
Geshe Michael has turned off his camera temporarily, which makes me think it's a good time for you to do a homework. He can stall for you.

[Speaker 1]
Let's go, Gibson. Okay. Stop pacing around.

Okay, here's the homework. Can you make it bigger, Gibson? Let me see.

Okay. Okay, can you see clearly? Yeah.

All right. Even bigger is better for everybody. I don't know if you can.

Okay. So the first question, we have come to the very end of the book, and the section is showing why did Je Tsongkhapa write this praise to the great sage, Lo Buddha?

[Speaker 2]
Wasn't it because dependent origination was so cool? Yeah, it's so cool, but there's another reason. He says it's just to honor Lord Buddha.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, thank you, Juan. So Je Tsongkhapa praised Lo Buddha for teaching dependent, and his intention was not so much to educate people, but to do it as a prostration to Lo Buddha. Okay, so the second question, how did Muchu Dhammabhadra comment on Je Tsongkhapa when he said, as a fully ordained monk, made no little progress in learning the words of the victor and making effort in yogic practice.

So these words are coming from Je Tsongkhapa. So how does Muchu Dhammabhadra comment? So when he says a fully ordained monk, who is this fully ordained monk?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, it means someone who has mastered open and secret teachings.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, that means, yeah, so who is he?

[Speaker 2]
Je Tsongkhapa.

[Speaker 1]
Yes. Mm hmm. And how did Muchu Dhammabhadra comment when he himself say, made no little progress?

[Speaker 2]
Then he add this thing of chenpo, which means excellent in having understand the word of the Buddha.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, great. And how about making effort in yogic practice?

[Speaker 2]
Well, that means first learning the content, but then putting it into practice.

[Speaker 1]
Great. You don't listen to the class.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, they're recording.

[Speaker 1]
OK, cool. Thank you. Thank you, Juan.

So Je Tsongkhapa dedicated a good karma of writing the phrase at the end of the book. What are the five different prayers mentioned? Dedication.

First is being taken care of by the spiritual guide. Yes. May be taken in the care of the spiritual guide.

What is the second one? May I always have trust in my teachers through following the teachers and not the teachers, or following the teachings and not the teacher. Yes, following the teaching.

Not the teacher. And the third?

[Speaker 2]
I hope I can be one of the people who preserves it.

[Speaker 1]
Let me see. Yes. May I keep the teaching of the other one, even if it should cost my body or my life.

Wow. So what is the fourth one? I hope that I may throw myself into the teachings with all my heart.

Yes. Spreading the way dependent with the flavor of emptiness. Okay.

So what is the last one?

[Speaker 2]
Get good friends and protectors.

[Speaker 1]
Cool. Yes. Nice.

Yeah. Nice, nice, nice one. So what is Changshou?

Master? Sage? Yeah, sage.

How about Nangchu? It's a very difficult word.

[Speaker 2]
The way it is. Yeah, the way it is.

[Speaker 1]
Nice. And how about Kangwa?

[Speaker 3]
To be full?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, to be full. It has been used very, a lot in this book, like full of your arm span or, yeah, to be full. Okay, full of, all right.

And here is my translation. Uh-oh. Let me see.

Higher up, I think. Okay, here. Yeah.

Yeah. Can everybody see okay? Is that all right?

Gibson, can you read just for fun? Okay. Okay.

Yeah, good. Let's take a look at it. Can you show the Tibetan also?

Oh, okay, okay. Okay, good. Okay.

When I make this, I will suspend the teaching. Nice. May the guardians of the teaching of power and strength.

Um, yeah, okay, good. The pure one, the power one, powerful one, for protecting the world. The sixth one, great.

I mean, we always make a bunch of memories. And then a single moment of separation. Yeah, good, perfect.

Nice. That's okay. Good.

Yeah, these are all names of different protectors, powerful beings. And he's asking for help. By the way, this is not the controversial protector.

These are just normal, nice protectors. So, yeah, good. Okay, so this is my intent translation.

Because the following one is too hard for me. But I like it. The translation is fine.

It's quite good. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I will give it an A.

Okay. Uh, let me see here. Share screen.

Let me make sure I don't have... Let's make sure I have the right book up. Hang on.

Not, hang on. Oh, hang on. I'm sorry.

Um, I got like 20 things up here. Where did you go? Let me go get your book.

Hang on. I saw you're preparing this for Adam's class by, by, you know, discounting everything that's not it. Yeah.

Yeah, never mind. I don't want to talk about it. Adam's class still gives me a headache.

Not Adam, the class. Let's see. Okay, here we go.

Let me go back here. Is this it, I think, right? Okay.

Yes. All right. All right.

Yeah, we got all that straight. I put some footnotes in here. Here's a kind of a lame Wikipedia thing.

Okay, what's this mean, Gibson? Tsongpa juk gi dun. Tsongpa juk gi...

The third, the meaning of the conclusion. Yeah, now, that's the whole bold part here. That's the entire bold part here.

And this is the original, which I cut out of the database. And this is his version of it here. So we'll do his version, but I fixed it, okay?

Okay. So all of the dark letters are in the original. They are not commentary.

They are the original. So who's going to read, Gibson? Emma?

Just kidding.

[Speaker 3]
Tracy.

[Speaker 1]
Tracy, hang on one second, okay? Let me do this silly thing. Hello, hello.

There we go. Okay, go, Tracy. All right.

Okay. Okay.

[Speaker 2]
Nice.

[Speaker 1]
Nice, not bad. Okay, so he's talking about the sangye. What's that, Tracy?

Sangye. Buddha. Buddha, good.

Chum den de, Tracy? Conqueror. Nice.

And chikten means loka in Sanskrit. The world, the whole world. Okay?

And chikten tab je means everybody in the whole world. This is an important mistake, okay? derpa means mixed up.

And jipa means to know somebody personally. Okay? And it's a little bit unusual.

But ma jipa, what do you think it is, Gibson? Zashe means friend. It's an unknown friend to the whole world.

Nice, yeah. And I like that. I really like that expression.

Lord Buddha is everybody in the world's friend, but they don't know it. So you have a friend in high places, but you don't know. Okay?

Chenpo. He's also the dunpa lana mekpa. What's that, Gibson?

Matchless teacher. Yeah, and he's sungpa with a p and not a j. What's that b?

ten jik drelwar chungwar He sungpa... He's spoken? Yeah, he taught.

He would talk. Yeah. He taught the dependent with the flavor of emptiness.

Nice, yes. Nice, nice, nice. And because he did that, gonay, okay?

I'm praising him because he did that. Okay? And this book of mine's name is lekpar sheypay nyingpo.

What's that, Gibson? The essence of the five words. Yeah, and it's the same name that he used for his chungay text.

Yeah. Which you're going to start probably in 10 minutes. I don't know.

Shey jawa di ni. This was written by the gelong who is mangdu thupa. This is written by a folio denpa who is very well-known.

Ren. Yeah, and it's kind of unusual for him to praise himself, but it's true. My name is losang drakpa.

My name is pure mai who is well-known. Good. And I wrote this in...

kang with an s means snow. So kang with an s means snow. So kang ri...

What's kang ri? The snowy mountain. Yeah, what's the Sanskrit?

Himalaya? Yeah, Himalaya. Yeah, Himalaya.

The Himalayas. So I was in the middle of the snowy land. Kang tru means I was in the middle of the snowy lands.

And there's the king of the mountains here. The wangpo here means the king of all the mountains. It's ode gung gyal.

So that's the name of a particular mountain. And I wouldn't try to translate it. I would just call it ode gung gyal.

Pla shul means also a place name. And it means like the hither lands of the gods or something. And it happened to be a enne.

A retreat?

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, retreat.

[Speaker 1]
He wrote this book, Retreat. The name of the retreat center is slading. Okay.

And it's the same as a din as a nangka din? No, I don't know. I'm not sure.

I think that's an LV. I'm not sure. And ming shen means also known as.

Okay, so he did the retreats. The retreat center was known as slading. But it had another name which is nangpar gyelway ling.

The forest of the king? The land of total victory. Total victory, okay.

Ling means island or continent. But in Tibetan it also refers to a dharma center or a monastery. It means an enclosed place.

So they call it an island. She gyelwa. I gyelwa this book.

I wrote this book. Yeah, I put this book together. I wrote it.

And my ye kepa, his name was Namkabdao. My, the person who helped me to cover it? My typewriter.

Yeah, my laptop was named Namkabdao. Okay. Does the name also appear in the taking and giving tonglen?

I don't remember. But I believe, if I remember correctly, this person, whoever he was, that's all we know about him. I don't remember him in the biographies of Tsongkhapa.

But he must have been a very close student who was willing to sit there and write all his books out. Probably he wrote it out messy and then the student wrote the final copy. And then much later, sometimes the next generation, they carved it.

So Namkabdao, his personal name. So that, the juk gi dun, the conclusion. Juk gi dun is indicated dun.

Yeah, okay. That's all. That verb goes way back at the top.

Okay, and if you want to know the meaning of this appendix, I'm going to ma chi. I'm not going to list here. Yeah, I promise not to write any explanation here.

Why? Because it's too easy to understand. Yeah, this doesn't need a commentary.

So Ngu chu dangpa dam lama quick service says, look, I've just copied here. And you guys, if you can't figure it out, you have a problem. Okay, good.

Now we're going to start a final, final, final comments by the commentator, which is Lama Quicksilver, who lived like... He passed away, I think, in 1851. We're going to talk about it.

And it says here, me pa. I like to translate me pa as, so it is finished. And so it is finished.

The book is finished. And here's some poetry from the commentator. Usually it's just some sweet words about the book and things like that.

So who's going to read Gibson? And you check them, okay? Okay, Anahili.

[Speaker 2]
Please help.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah. Okay, good. Rabja means what?

Zillion. Yeah, nice. It's zillion, zillion, billion, billion.

Chukyipumbo. Pile of teaching. Yeah, piles of teachings.

How many traditionally Lord Buddha taught? 84,000. Nice.

Chuchen, do you know? It's a river? Yeah, smaller, like a stream, okay?

Smaller river, small river. Jinye pa means? As many as there are.

Yeah, there may be thousands and thousands of small streams. But in the end, they all bump into the ghetto. They all fall into.

Yeah, they all fall into the ocean of chun yi, or dongpa. Emptiness. Yeah, emptiness.

That's a very interesting statement. What's that mean, Gibson? What's it mean?

Every teaching is, oh boy, down to the concept of the emptiness. Yeah, good. Every teaching, sooner or later, comes down to emptiness.

Nice. And that was sung. That was spoken by Buddha.

Yeah, Buddha said that. It's not my opinion. The Buddha said, yeah.

So, rab tu juk ga... Should we read juk ga or ga tu? Yeah, no, stop it, ga.

Okay. It's very difficult to express. Yeah, and here, by the way, to answer your question, the pairs are more important than the meaning.

So you have to say rab tu juk ga duk chok. Yeah, okay? Because it's poetry.

So, difficult to describe the yun dance. The good quality. Of the duk be chok.

Of the highest among the able ones. Yeah, like number one Buddha of all the universe. So he's praising our Buddha.

Why wouldn't all of the chu of that tuba... Why wouldn't all the teaching of that Buddha... Yeah, be dupa into this dupa.

Be included in this dependent origination, praise. Praise, yeah. Like streams are included into the ocean.

You see what I mean? Okay, cool. Just as all streams go to emptiness, all teachings of the Buddha that you could write about, sooner or later, they can be included by...

They can be automatically included by praising him for teaching dependence. And that's a very... And again, he's comparing dependence to emptiness.

And he's not allowing people to separate them. It's very interesting, okay? Okay, who's going to read, Gibson?

Let me see. How about Tim? Tim Lowenhaupt.

Where is Tim Lowenhaupt? Japan. Tim's in Japan.

Yeah, he's probably having fun in some nice Japanese coffee shop. No, I'm just having breakfast right now with Kelly and Gene and Benji and Earl. That sounds like fun.

All right. Yeah, okay, good. Therefore, Losang is a reference to, you can guess, Gibson?

Je Tsongkapa. Yeah, and here he's called Lhachen. Lhachen, the greatest?

This great...

[Speaker 2]
Deva?

[Speaker 1]
Deva, yeah, this great... So now they're comparing Tsongkapa to like Indra or Brahmo or something like that, okay? And tsukye means in the space above the top of his head, okay?

In the space above... And that's where the god of the gods sits, right? So there's the big god and then there's a little god on top.

And there's a little god on top of the big god's head, which is Jarpa Dawa. Master Chandrakirti. Yeah, and Shun, here he's calling him like the younger brother, I would say, of Tsongkapa, okay?

It could be the younger brother of Nagarjuna also, okay? And his karway sung dzin, he's taking on the form of the karwa, like the sun, or the sun you can say, the bright light of the sun, okay? And with that fire, this is instrumental, with that fire he sells us the mungpa.

He clears away the darkness. Yeah, in the low of the dulja. In the mind of the disciple.

And that fire from atop the head of Tsongkapa, who is Chandrakirti. And brother, by the way, this is probably some reference to some Hindu god who wears a flame on his head. Maybe you can find something like that.

Yeah. Maybe you and word can find something. There's more here that I, you know, I didn't have time to look it up.

There should be some Hindu god that has a fire on their head and that fire has two purposes. Number one, it clears away the mungpa in the minds of disciples, the darkness. And six, it burns the lu.

The body. Yeah, the coarse body, the flesh body of the lamas. This is non-Buddhist lamas.

Okay. Who are chu gu. Who are the opponent.

Yeah, cheng ga is a difficult word. Here it's a synonym for, I'm sorry, but it's a synonym for a house of prostitution. Okay, and it means to enjoy playing around.

And so he's saying that those other teachers are playing around and they're not serious, and they're kind of strange people. They're like playing around in bad places. Meaning they don't understand the philosophy, so he burns them.

He cremates them. Okay. Actually, I've found that cheng ge lama is also the synonym for du hra.

For du? Hra. Desire deva.

Oh, du hra, good. Okay, good. All right, good.

Good, okay, nice. All right. Yeah, okay.

By the way, da shun, if you spell the da shun a different way, it can mean something that chakra rides on. But you have to sit with it for a while, okay? That's a long story.

Uh, let's keep... Who's gonna read this? Next one.

Okay, let me see. Du du. And wow, this is...

These are hard. These are hard. Don't worry.

Go ahead. Brahmarala. Brahmarala.

Good, yeah. This one's hard, okay? This gets harder and harder, it gives.

Yeah. You're gonna have to sit with it, and we'll have to work with it a little bit. But anyway.

Gun here means chokapa, okay? That protector. That protector...

Is it... Let me see. Or it could be chandrakirti.

I'm not sure. Either one. That protector's...

sung means speech, right? Yeah. And...

pe is pedma. Lotus. Yeah.

And dab kya means 100 what? 100 paddle. Yeah, 100 paddle lotus.

And I think it's a reference to the lotus... To the chakra at the throat. Throat chakra.

Which means the speech of Tsongkhapa, okay? It's very difficult to drul. Drul is the same as drulma, the deity.

Either way. Yeah, but here it's crossing over to the word drulpa, which means to make a commentary. So when you say drulpa means commentary, it comes from the verb drulwa, which means to untie a difficult knot.

And reveal the meaning. Yeah, so liberate the meaning. Somebody had to go into the throat of Tsongkhapa, which is like a lotus flower, and has to take it apart.

You know, somebody has to open it up. And that's kawa. Difficult.

Yeah, difficult to... It's difficult to liberate the meaning from the chakra of the lotus in the throat of Tsongkhapa, okay? Meaning his words, which is the poet, the original poetry, right?

The original verses. That's being compared to the lotus flower. Difficult to open the meaning of these verses, okay?

Then we have to depend on somebody who has drulpa for dewa. Drulpa. I don't know.

Anybody? Dumba as a verb? Aspire?

Yeah, aspires to virtue, okay? Somebody who aspires to virtue. And that's actually the name for sangha in Tibetan, gendun, okay?

And he's like the older son of the younger son. The younger brother was the moon. Now we have the older brother, which is the sun, okay?

And there's a name hidden in here. Anybody want to guess?

[Speaker 2]
Gatso?

[Speaker 1]
Gendun Gatsor. Gendun Gatsor is the second Dalai Lama, okay? So they're hiding his name here.

They're hiding his name inside. Gendun Gatsor is the second Dalai Lama. Gendun drulpa was the first one.

Second one was called Gendun Gatsor. So he says Gendun Gatsor. And I checked, okay?

Down here he wrote a commentary on this book. And we have it in Mongolia. We found it in Mongolia.

So I found it in the catalog from John Brady. And so this is a commentary to this same poetry that was written by the second Dalai Lama. And our author used it about 350 years later, okay?

So the older brother is the brother of the moon. Namche. Here's Namche, which means his ability to analyze the meaning of Tsongkhapa's poem.

The second Dalai Lama's ability to analyze the meaning of Tsongkhapa's poem, okay? Ser is like the light of his intellect, okay? And id drul.

Here's that verb again that means what? Liberate. Yeah.

He used the light of his intellect. The older brother, who is the second Dalai Lama, used the light of his intellect. He broke open the meaning.

And he got all the chu of the zigdun. All the content. Yeah, this chu means...

Essence, right? Like a flower essence. Yeah, the sweet essence inside a flower or sweet essence inside a fruit, okay?

[Speaker 3]
Okay.

[Speaker 1]
He broke it out of the flower. He broke it out of the book. The second Dalai Lama wrote a commentary to the same verses that broke the sweet nectar out of the book, okay?

And there were a lot of brahmadas running around, okay? And that's a Sanskrit word for honeybee, okay? So by the way, your author, Quicksilver, is showing off that he knows some Sanskrit, okay?

So he said the second Dalai Lama broke open the meaning of the lotus, right? And then he served that sweet nectar to the brahmadas, which is the students, to the honeybees, okay? And nyong she means they wanted to taste it.

She means they wanted. They wanted to taste it, okay? And he gave it to those honeybees, okay?

The second Dalai Lama wrote a commentary on the same verses and gave the meaning to the honeybees, which are the good students. And they understood it because they were kawa sangpo. They have the good fortune.

Yeah, they had good karma to have a good mind. Good, yeah. By the way, indirectly he is saying, look, I didn't write this commentary on my own.

I used the older commentary. And I want you guys to know I used the older commentary to write my commentary, okay? All right.

Who's the big brother? Who's the little brother? You got to figure it out.

Okay, thanks. Next, I think the older brother is the second Dalai Lama. I don't know who's the younger brother.

Maybe he is. Who's going to read this one, Gibson? Oscar.

[Speaker 3]
He's so cute. Nice.

[Speaker 1]
Nice. I like the meter. Okay.

Now he's being cute, okay? The author's being cute. And he wants to say the number eight.

So he doesn't say number eight. He says equal to the Nagas. And there's eight famous Nagas, okay?

So he's being cute, and it's very difficult to understand if you don't know them, okay? There are eight famous Naga kings, okay? And so he says, hey, what's the number of the Naga kings?

And you're supposed to say, oh, I know, it's eight, okay? And then yenlak means, here it means the qualities of very pure water. So there are eight famous qualities of very pure water, okay?

And I think I put them in here somewhere. Well, you can find them in many places, okay? In the dictionary, okay?

It's like, it's like cool, good to the taste, light, doesn't harm your stomach, like that, okay? There are different qualities of fine water. This is supposed to be, you find this mentioned in the Georgia, why?

Because of the water you offer for the cups. Yeah, argam, badin, you're supposed to use this kind of water. You're supposed to climb up on the mountain and get some fresh water, okay?

Okay, then he says chusel, chusel means the ocean, okay? Chusel. And sel means storage.

So water storage place is the ocean, okay? And tung du means in that location, okay? Nye mang means nye pa mangpo, what's that mean?

You can find a lot, many problems. Many problems, oh. Yeah, okay.

And we had sago when we were cleaning the gemstones with venerable Utpala. Lye or some acrid, like a- Acid? Acid.

Yeah, almost like acid, but here it means mineral salts, mineral salts, okay? So if you have pure water with the number of qualities equal to the Naga Kings, okay, if you have super pure water, but instead you go to the chusel and you drink that salt water, okay? If you go to the ocean and drink this salt water, then many bad things gonna happen to you, right?

Nye mang, okay? Mung tar, don't be stupid like people who go to the ocean and drink salt water when they could go to the mountain and drink the clear water with eight qualities, okay? Don't be stupid like them, okay?

Don't go drink the ocean water when you have the nice, fresh stream water, okay? It means kye pay lek she, what's that mean? Um, the fine work.

Yeah, the good explanation of real masters, okay? Your shindu word, what's the I-N-G version here? Being, having?

Yeah, in your hands, you have these great books by the great masters, okay? And then you go and drink out of the ocean, you're a real pooper, okay? So your shindu means, even though you have these beautiful pure water in your hands of the great explanations of the masters, why you go and drink the salt water?

You must be a lun mong, which is koopa. Idiot. Yeah, lunbo means stupid, mongpa means idiot, okay?

Super idiot. Who's the super idiot? Dark.

Me. Who's that? Moochidharabhadra?

Yeah, the author, Quicksilver. He says, look, I'm just a stupid guy. I don't know anything.

I should have read the classics, like the second Dalai Lama's commentary, but I was wasting my time with other stuff, okay? Like salt water. So kala means how on earth, how is it possible that I would be oopa to compose this book?

All the possible. I have the honor to- Worthy, yeah. Worthy.

Yeah, don't forget, this is the R in archa, arch. Yeah. How could I deserve to write this book?

I'm the kind of stupid guy who drinks salt water when there's lots of fresh water, okay? How could I write this book? I'm just an idiot.

Who's that? It's Quicksilver, Lama Quicksilver, okay? Who's next, Gibson?

By the way, this is where grandpa speeds up, why? It's almost the end. It's almost the end.

It's like a horse race. It's the last 30 steps or something. After, I don't know how many years, two years or something.

Okay, let's go, let's go. Qiya. Hello, Dr. Ong. Ong-Tang saw-tih-pong-way-bo-gat-yu. Lung-way-chip-woo-ang, tsuk-tok-may-jo-wa-tang. Kip-hek-sung-chih-rang-may-tah-ki-der.

Jool-ah-loh-jo-den-ba-su-shik-shin. Thank you. Good, nice job.

Okay, this G-S-O-R means a instrument, it's a tool used in carpentry. We call it an awl, it looks like a big needle. And you poke holes in leather or you poke holes in wood.

So it looks like a screwdriver, but you use it to poke holes in things. Like if you're making a belt, you will use it to poke the holes, okay? So he says, if you use the TSE, take off the S.

The tip. Yeah, if you use the tip of an awl. UNTANG here is a synonym for UN KYANG.

It's the same thing, UN KYANG means but. He says, look, I'm just a stupid guy, I don't know anything. But if you take a awl and you poke it into a piece of lu-ki-pao.

The wooden? Sheep's wool? Sheep's wool, yeah.

The wool of a sheep. And it's like a cotton ball. It's very soft, right?

So if you use that metal screwdriver and you push it into a cotton ball, it's gonna make a nice hole, right? Easy, very, very easy hole. And that lu-ki-pao TSE BU'ANG means the hole in the wool of the sheep, which you stick a metal through, okay?

Then the TSE BU'ANG means a thread, okay? Thread. If you want to put a thread through the piece of sheep's wool and you use a metal screwdriver, it will go easily asanga.

Without any obstacle. Yeah, easy, easy. Just poke the hole with the metal instrument and then you can make a coat or something from that wool.

Okay, easy. Just like that, I'm just je-dang the kyepas. And just follow the footprints of those wise ones.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just following the people who poked the hole in front of me. I didn't do the poking.

They did the poking, like second Dalai Lama, those guys. They poked a difficult subject with the screwdriver and I just went through myself easy, okay? All right.

What's his name? The physicist, Hawking. He wrote a book called On the Shoulders of Giants.

I'm not as tall, man. I'm just standing on the shoulder of other people, okay? Like that.

So look, everybody else did the hard work. I just followed them, okay? They poked a hole and I came through the hole.

So therefore, dak gi, I was able to je. I was able to express? Yeah.

And what kind of other person, I don't care how smart they are, who could give such a good explanation? Who could give such a good explanation that I gave just following like a donkey the great people before me, okay? He's still talking like that.

Cool? All right. Who's up next?

Venerable Choon Sung. Hello. Hello.

Kei Sheng Chu, one sec. Kei Sheng Chu. Chu Te Gang, Lo, Chup Shing Gyi, Chuk Lai Choe, Lek She Gagor Tam.

Wow. Lo Dang Dey Chung Tuk Tuk Pung Wa Na, Ser Nang Bu Moy, Je Su Kyong Po Mnchok. Good, okay.

Here we go. Kei Pei Shung, Gibson. Those wise ones' texts, scripture.

Yeah, the great books of the wise people. It is like a chu ter. Treasure?

Is it a water treasure? Ocean. It's the ocean.

It means, ter can mean a gold mine, but chu ter is a synonym for the ocean, okay? Those books by the previous writers is like the ocean, okay? And I took my mind as a sup shing.

And this is an ancient Hindu legend that the earth was created, this continent was created by the gods. They took like a giant tree and they mixed up the water like making cream or something, you know? So they took a giant tree and they mixed up the ocean and the continents came out, okay, like that.

This is an ancient Hindu mythology. So sup shing means a stick you use to stir the soup or something like that, or you use it to stir cream and then you get heavy cream, okay? So I took my mind and I went to the ocean of the great books of other people and I used my mind as the stirring stick.

And I stirred, sup means I stirred it up and out of that came the cream, le chung means, and that cream was lek she. Great explanation. Yeah, great explanation.

Cobbler, any of you guys remember? Is it raw sugar? No, you're close though.

What's that stuff you put in the closet to keep moths out?

[Speaker 2]
Moth ball?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, moth ball. Grape leaf powder or something or wood, cedar wood. It's called camphor.

Camphor. Camphor. And it's used a lot in India.

It's used by all the Hindu priests. They use little pieces of it. They light it, they put it on their hand.

It burns very fast. And it's considered the whitest thing in India. Okay, that wax, that camphor wax is the white.

It's like saying in English, we say white as snow. In India, you say white as camphor, okay? Okay, so Kabarwang means the king of camphor.

And that's a synonym for the moon. Okay, so the king of camphor means the moon. So I took my intellect and I stirred up these great books of other people.

And out of that, the moon rose of my lekshe, of my great explanation, came up out of that ocean, okay? And if you are low, then. If you are smart enough.

Yeah, if you are smart, guys. And he compares smart people to this god called Maheshwara, okay? Shambhu, Shambhu, which is like a high, high Hindu god.

Okay, and he likes to wear the moon on his head. Maybe you saw a picture of the crescent moon in the hair of one of those Hindu gods, Shambhu, okay? He likes to wear the moon in his head, okay?

So I took my stick, I stirred up the great books, I got a bright crescent moon of good explanation, and I'm offering it to the heads of you smart people to wear as your crown, okay? I'm offering this moon, which I got out of the great books, and you can wear it on your crown. You can wear it on your head, okay?

Say now a word. I think maybe you're the only person who heard of this. Hiranya Garba?

A golden womb? Yeah, it's called the golden egg or the golden womb, and it's an ancient, ancient Hindu word for the world. It's like the universe before the Big Bang, and it's called the golden egg, okay?

And this Hindu tradition, Hindu mythology, the world used to be a golden egg, okay? And then it became a god. Hiranya Garba became a god, and creator of the universe.

Tummo means his daughter, all right? The daughter of the creator of the universe, whose name is golden egg, okay? And she, I'm stepping, I'm following in her footsteps, okay?

Kangpa Chok, Je Tsul Kangpa Chok means I'm following in her footsteps. Now, a word I thought maybe you or Nick and Gibson, you guys can figure out who the heck is the daughter of Hiranya Garba, I don't know, okay? I tried to look on, what do you call it?

Google, but I got a headache, so I'm going to let you get the headache. Geshe-la. Yes?

I already figured out part of it. Apparently, it's also suited for Brahma, so it's whoever is Brahma's daughter, apparently. I looked up all these daughters, okay?

And I couldn't get any good daughters here, so you guys check it out. I'll look, I'll look, thank you. Yeah.

Here it says, it says here that Hiranya Garba is a synonym for Brahma, yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Sarasvati was the daughter of Brahma. So it might be that our author, Quicksilver, is saying, I walk in the footsteps of Sarasvati, who is a famous goddess of all poetry and composition. Geshe-la, he also prostrated to Sarasvati at the beginning.

Yeah, so I think a word, I think it might be Sarasvati as the daughter of Hiranya Garba, who is Brahma. Okay, and then he's following in her footsteps as a master poet. I think so.

I like it. But it's up to you guys, okay? Okay.

Who's next, Geshe? Oh, Grandpa can't go fast enough, right? Two minutes, we can do it.

We cannot do it, but how about we do one more verse?

[Speaker 3]
Okay, Inna.

[Speaker 1]
Inna. Yes. DERBE GELEK KABE SANG ZIN LA NYOG KYU PEN ZEPA DROG CHED DE KHYETREN KUN TU MA RIG TU PO'I MUN STEL NE JAN CHEN SHUL SANG KAR CHIN NGO Okay, it gets worse and worse, okay?

This poetry gets more and more strange, okay? By the way, it's traditional to write secret poetry at the end of a book, okay? Let's see, if I can just waste one minute, then you can figure it out.

Okay, here's some pieces of it, okay? Then you guys figure out the rest with word, maybe. DERBE means, I worked really hard on this book, okay?

Here, and GELEK means the good karma that I collected by, now he's dedicating the karma of writing this commentary, okay? DERBE GELEK, I made a lot of good karma writing this book. Here in the place where the snow is kept, which means Tibet, okay?

In the place where we hold the snow, okay? NYID DGOS means sunlight. Sunlight.

KHYOD PA means embrace, okay? DZAD PA means beautiful. CHOG CHE is here, Hari, which is, again, he's referring to Hindu mythology.

And you guys can figure it out from the internet. I don't know much about it, okay? But it's the god of wind, okay?

I hope the god of the wind, which has something to do with the beautiful, on this earth, I think, which is surrounded by the light of the sun, okay? This earth. I hope that on this earth, in Tibet, because of the karma that I wrote this book, in all my future lives streamed, KHYOD PA'I CHENG, okay?

I hope in all of those lives, that wind god, Hari, will blow away the LTUG PO'I MUN PA, the thick fog, okay? The thick fog of ignorance, MA RIG PA, okay? Clear it.

And I hope I can stay in CHANG CHEN, in Buddhahood, okay? And you guys have to figure out the rest, okay? It means I dedicate the good karma of writing this book that I can stay in the teachings in my future lives, okay?

Okay. And then I want you to try to translate this last piece here. It starts with ZHES BSTAN DANG, okay?

Okay. That part's not so hard. It's not poetry, okay?

Yeah. And it's the very end of your book. And I'll get ready your next book, which is, you agreed to do DAG ZHES ZHES DRAG?

Okay, CHANG GYI? Yeah. You're foolish enough to do that, right?

Yes. Okay. There's a big mistake here.

It said YAL LA THU. It should be YANTU, okay? Just if word helps you or something.

It's JAYAN THU, which is Sanskrit, okay? All right. And I wrote some notes here, maybe you're interested, about Dharmabhadra.

He said he was 23 when he wrote this book. Wow. He was 23 years old.

He wrote it in 1794, okay? And he gives the year, which was the wooden tiger year, which was 1794. So he was really 23 years old when he wrote this book, which is kind of amazing.

He lived to be 85 or something like that, okay? But this was one of the first... By the way, he wrote...

He's most famous because he wrote the two best commentaries to Bajaj Yogini. He wrote the two best ones. And we translated both of them.

And it's amazing. He's amazing, okay? And I gave you two short biographies of Quicksilver.

They're like two pages each, okay? And when you write your introduction, it's good to tell a little bit about his life story. So maybe you and Word, or you and Nick, or somebody can go through this with you, okay?

Sounds like I'm glad. By the way, there's one weird thing here. I'll tell you now, okay?

He identifies himself as... He calls himself... Here, okay?

Here he says, my name is Sudharma Ishvara. Won't you? He does not give his Tibetan name.

Yeah, he says, my name is Good Dharma King. Good Dharma Lord, right? And Word, what's another way to say good dharma in Sanskrit?

Besides Sudharma? Yeah. It took me like an hour to figure it out.

I'm sure you can do it.

[Speaker 2]
Dharma Bhadra.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, Dharma Bhadra. Dharma Bhadra. So he's being...

I think when he was very young, he was playing with new names for himself, and he chose Sudharma, and then later he changed it to Dharma Bhadra, I think. Same meaning. Same meaning, okay?

So anyway, there you go. That'll help you figure this out. So I'd like you to try to translate this last part, and we'll go over it together at the beginning of the next class, and then we'll jump into the new headache for you, okay?

Okay, thank you again. If you want, we'll do a little bit of his biography, okay? Okay.

Just the big points. All right, I'm going to disappear. You're going to talk, everybody, about how you're going to use this book in your real life.

And I'm going to turn off my camera so I can take a nap. No, I'm done. I'm done.

What? Go ahead, Nick. No, no, please, please.

[Speaker 2]
We have an opportunity tonight because we have a Gibson able to speak Chinese fluently that we're going to ask Joy to step into the English room, and we're going to invite the English speakers to go into the English interpretation room. So if you see at the bottom of your screen, a little globe that says interpretation, if you go to English there, then Chinese speakers can freely ask questions in Chinese and Gibson can freely answer in Chinese, and we can listen to the translation. Here I go.

I'm running to join Joy in the English interpretation room. Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
Thank you, Ben. Um, oh. Ha, ha, ha.

We have the opportunity today to do this discussion with you in Chinese for the first time. So does anyone want to share? Because this is a very rare opportunity.

Okay, Duoduo. Uh, I haven't shared. First of all, I want to thank Mr. Gibson. Ha, ha, ha. Because, uh, although I read it like a book, I can assure you that I work hard every day. Ha, ha, ha.

Uh, and I also want to tell everyone that Mr. Gibson has helped me a lot because he gave me a lot of information and helped me persist for a long time. So I hope, I think this is why Mr. Gibson is so great now. Uh, and today I saw two words.

I saw two words. One is a fool, and the other is a fool. Ha, ha, ha.

One means a fool, and the other means a wise man. Sometimes, um, when I feel good, I think I'm a fool. But when I really find myself a fool, it's actually pretty good.

Ha, ha, ha. Because, because even people like Mr. Gibson are saying, um, I'm like me. He's so modest that he can, he said he, he can complete this kind of work.

I believe, although I'm still, I'm still slowly catching up, but I think, uh, one day I can become, that is, also behind a book, writing that I am a fool, that, that narrator. Ha, ha, ha. Thank you.

Thank you, thank you, Duoduo. Um, actually Duoduo was with me last year, he was with me in exchange, and then he, he reminded me to, to do yoga. And then he said he wanted to learn this Tibetan.

And then the two of us, just, encouraged each other. Yes, and then thank you very much. Thank you, Duoduo.

Then I think, that is, you just mentioned, uh, that is, a lot of masters are in this, in this book, very humble. He said, people like us, and then I think this, this Tibetan, when I first heard it, I thought it was very, very good. That is, it is called kembakum, that is, that is very humble.

But I think we are all the opposite, that is, we really hope that in the future, we can be like these authors, can be so real, kembakum, very humble, like this, this is not very proud, like this. Thank you, Duoduo for sharing. Is there anyone else who wants to share together?

Let me see. Can I share? OK.

I just came back from the United States last night, and we ended our 10-day trip in the United States. I am very happy to tell you, that is, I don't have such a time difference. I got up at four o'clock this morning, and then I heard such a lecture, which is still very different from the scene.

Yes, when I was at the scene, I heard this two-part course. In this content, I felt a little bit of this humility of the masters, that is, he can ridicule himself as a fool. But in the past, I think this word is very difficult for us to accept.

I always think I am a smart person. Especially when I came back this time, I also felt that it was not easy for the teachers to come to China every time.

[Speaker 2]
Because we went to the United States for the first time after 36 hours, and took two flights. This time it took more than 20 hours. So I would like to thank Mr. Ge Xie here, for giving us such a great lecture in this way. OK, thank you, Mr. Ge Xie. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Xiaoping.

[Speaker 1]
OK, there are four minutes left. In fact, this book talks about Master Tsongkhapa's admiration for Buddha, which is that when he was teaching Yuanqi, he also brought a little bit of the taste of emptiness. Then I would like to ask if anyone would like to share how to put the story of the brush, which talks about Yuanqi, seeds and emptiness, into our lives.

So if you want to listen to Chinese translation, there is a translation button at the end, at the below, so you can click. Anyone wants to share? OK.

He talked about all the Dharma, all the teachings, which will end up in the ocean of emptiness. None of the teachings taught by Buddha will not be in Yuanqi. So he actually talked about Yuanqi and emptiness separately.

So how do you think these two things should be applied in our lives?

[Speaker 3]
Mr. Ge, I have a question. OK, please go ahead. There are many cells in our body, like there are cells in a cow's kidney.

Does this cell also have consciousness? Will the cell become a Buddha after countless years in the future? Yes.

In fact, they actually have a definition of life.

[Speaker 1]
I think we can discuss it together. I think the cell itself, you have to see if it has consciousness. If it doesn't have consciousness, can it be considered a life?

But if we talk about bacteria, the bacteria in the cell, or some of them, you can think about it. Maybe they have consciousness, or they may be after 10,000 years, like you said, they will be reincarnated into a human being or reincarnated into other lives. But I don't think the cell counts.

I don't know if there are other people who have different opinions.

[Speaker 3]
Thank you, Mr. Ge. So you mean that bacteria have consciousness and may become a Buddha in the future, that is, through continuous learning and practicing the Dharma, they will eventually become a Buddha, right?

[Speaker 1]
We are so lucky to be human because we can think about it at this time. But in many sutras, if we go to the three-day period, it is very difficult to become a human being again. But many times, you can see a lot of people who want to read some incantations or recite some sutras loudly in a space.

They just want to have other lives in the same space, so that they can hear, like you said, a teacher like this, and hope that they can at least become a human being in the future, and then become a human being like this, and learn such a method to become a Buddha. Can you say that they become a Buddha when they hear this? This may need to be thought about.

[Speaker 3]
Thank you, Mr. Ge. I was thinking that in life, when you clean the room, there are some insects that are smaller than ants, and they will hurt them, so they plant the seeds of killing. These lives are also meaningful.

I can see them moving. So, this is a bit difficult for protecting life. I wonder if you have any good solutions.

Thank you.

[Speaker 1]
Thank you. Actually, no matter... It's like this four steps.

Actually, you have to go to the last one. You are very happy that you hurt it, so that you can have a complete path of karma. But usually, when we ask you, when you drive, do you get killed?

If it's a heart-to-heart question, 1% or 2% will tell you that you may have crushed some ants when you were driving. But did you do it on purpose? You didn't do it on purpose.

But I think we can think of it like this. I hope that in the future, when we slowly get these ants, you can get some sugar and attract them to a place, and slowly send them outside the door. It's like what many teachers have said.

For example, if there are cockroaches or insects at home, try to find a way to collect them and send them outside. I think you can think about it in your heart. In the future, I can be your teacher.

I can teach you how to be a life that can help the world. But when you help them attract them outside the door, you can think like this. When you accidentally hurt them, you also hope that they can survive in a better place in the future.

So that they can have a chance to come to our show. I think we've already passed the time. So thank you.

Okay, so we'll give the time to Juan now. Thank you. Juan, are you there?

[Speaker 2]
Hello, Gibson.

[Speaker 1]
Hey.

[Speaker 2]
How's it going?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, pretty good.

[Speaker 2]
So what's new? Where's that PS3 going? Soon.

How's the mining club going?

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, we are doing great. We had a great concert last week. Wonderful.

With AOL. Thank you for asking.

[Speaker 2]
Yeah, we're going to be sharing the video soon. Hopefully, if you have any materials you want to share here, please feel very welcome. We can talk about it.

But congratulations, because finishing your book and also doing great, great, great projects. Congratulations.

[Speaker 1]
Hey, Juan, it's his second book he finished.

[Speaker 2]
His second book? Yeah. Wow, this is even more congratulations.

No, thank you. Okay, great. It's good to know because I'm organizing the playlist and I've been placing them with the name of first book.

But this is second book. Now you're going to start third book. Wonderful.

So I also want to share with the audience here a little bit of the ongoings of the next events that are happening very, very soon. And the first one I would like to talk about is in just a few more days, Geshe Michael and many other organizers and friends are traveling to Asia. And they are going to be having a CSP event in mainland China.

So if you happen to be there, maybe there is a chance you could get to know more about that. So these organizers, Xiaoping and Stanley Changtang, they very kindly share the QR codes there. If you are interested, you could reach out and see what's going on.

I have here the events in China are amazing, wonderful, like fantastic. So if you have the chance and you can go, I bet it's going to be wonderful time. After that, since they are already in Asia, they're going to be having some events also in Japan.

So in June, Japan is like great wisdom party because just before, while they are in China, a few other things are going to be happening in Japan. Tim Lowenhaupt, we just have a few minutes with him during class. He's just about to start teaching the course number two.

Tomorrow, he's going to be coursing Protecting Your Seats Steps on the Path series. Also with Jen and Kelly, they are there. And Errol and Benji, they're going to be co-teaching, wonderful, wonderful event.

I, myself, I'm going to be traveling to Kyoto to cover some of the events happening there in a few more days. And just after Tim finishes this course, YSI is going to start their course, is the next picture. They're going to be going from, oh no, before that actually, well, yeah, we can talk about it.

They're also having a co-event, Enjoy the Infinite Free Life. And this is happening from the nine to the 13. So in between, I just probably put the slides in different order, but in between, there's also going to be a great teaching about the Heart Sutra, is the next picture.

All this is happening in Kyoto in the next few days. So get ready for Kyoto Wisdom Party. After these events happen, Geshe Michael, Xiaoping, Stanley, Rob, and other friends are going to be joining in Japan for the final cherry on top of the cake of the Wisdom Party happening there.

And in another news, after that, in July, they are all getting ready to go to hear the Angel Debates the Devil in Mexico City on the 26th. Just to get ready for that, some people are organizing these catching up courses online. The first already happened.

It was a class, exclusive content, pre-recorded class, happened in May 15, but the next one is happening in June 11. So you can still use the QR code and catch up in these amazing classes. These are going to help us to prepare for the final event.

Well, not final, but you know, the actual event happening in Mexico City. So next one is going to be June 11, then another one, July 26th. Yeah, sorry, July 6th.

And then the actual retreat happening in Mexico City on the 26th to the 28th. Which is that one, beautiful, beautiful. And soon we're going to have an opportunity to talk with one of the main organizers and very dear friend, Paulina.

Very soon she's going to be giving us more details. If you want to go live, how to do the whole process, it's wonderful. I love Mexico too.

So I recommend it for sure. People there is great, food there is great, great atmosphere and great teachings happening in Mexico City. Okay, next one, we want to let you know that YSI is also having a special teaching on the Inner Kingdom book and teachings that Geshe Michael was teaching when he did his own three-year retreat.

So the first series of this event is going to be happening on the end of this month, June 29th and June 30th. Soon hopefully we can talk with Errol in person also to give us a little update on this. And then July 27th to the 28th, second part and September 7th and 8th, third part.

But since part one is about to come, you can follow the QR code. And also since we are talking about YSI, we want to let you know in November, there is going to be the chapter four, amazing chapter four of the Hatha Yoga Pradipika. Geshe Michael himself is gonna be also teaching this course.

And as far as I understand, it's happening from the Sedona College of International Management. And finally, we would like to remind you about a very cool project that is also being cooked. It's called the Innovation Retreat.

They're gonna start their first event online, probably on July 11th to the 12th. But then they're gonna keep going and then have sessions. The plan is to have sessions in United States, in Sedona on August.

And then in September, having some actual retreat happening in Diamond Mountain. I just hear very cool news. They just went to Diamond Mountain.

They are figuring out what are they gonna exactly be doing. And not only that, but they are also preparing this wonderful next project, which is the Dunhuang Caves. Is the next picture please?

Where the plan is to start connecting these two wonderful places, treasure holder places of wisdom in this world. One is in the Gobi Desert. The other one is in the Arizona Desert.

And this project is trying to emulate or to recreate new caves of wisdom, similar to the ones that are in the Gobi Desert. The project is to get something similar happening in Diamond Mountain. And hopefully, very hopefully, soon we will have a chance to talk more in depth with Stanley Chan about this.

We'll have to schedule him soon. Okay, and finally, speaking of Diamond Mountain, today we have a very special interview with our friends from Diamond Mountain who are in charge of this project you may have here. It's called Sky Harvest, where the plan is to reestablish the environmental nature to its peak powers.

Oh, sorry, then I missed something. Yeah, because Nur also has been talking to us lately. We just wanted to remind you that she's in charge of this wonderful project, Michael and Veronica's Roach Foundation.

And hopefully we will be talking to Nur also very, very soon. But just for you to understand what's happening here a little bit is that they collect a lot of information of many different projects or interesting ideas that will serve and help this world and to help to preserve these ancient teachings or very particular organizations, which are just bringing kindness and wisdom in general. So if you're interested to get to hear more about the many projects that this foundation is supporting, you could follow the QR code.

And again, soon we will have Nur with us talking a little bit more about it. So having said that, it's time to go with our friends from Diamond Mountain to talk about the Sky Harvest as the waters do stay. And for that, I think it's Alex and Zunam around?

Yes, I'm around. Alex, I think you're also here. I'm here.

Yes, I am. Wonderful. So how was this visit to the caves?

Were you both in the mountain? It was beautiful. We had a very beautiful hike during the sunset.

And then we have been sitting there and have enjoying our water from the mountains. Thank you, Geshe-la, thank you, Gibson for having a water class today because that's the perfect segue for our program, Ask the Waters to Stay. So let us know, yeah.

Water is going in a cycle. There are clouds, it's raining, the water stays, feeds the plants, the animals, the humans, then it goes to the lakes and the rivers and then it gets clouds again. And at one point, the cycle has been disturbed here in Diamond Mountain because all the trees have been cut down.

And so with this project in cooperation with Sky Harvest and Borderland Reforestation Network, we try to re-establish the cycle so that we have more beautiful, cool, sweet, light, soft, clear, pure water. What's the next step? What are you planning?

[Speaker 1]
Alex is the one who knows the details. I have the middle section and Sunam will give some important details about how people can really come to Diamond Mountain in September. But I brought with me some friends.

I took this picture. If you've been to Diamond Mountain, maybe you've met some of the wildlife there. And oh, there, you see the baby.

That's the big reveal, is that we're sharing this land with many animals, snakes, birds, bugs. And it's up to us to improve the land, not only for ourselves, so that we can have water when we visit Diamond Mountain, but for all of the creatures that share it. So we need trees and we need bushes and grasses for these animals to thrive.

And that's what the project is about, is we have many experts from Borderlands Restoration Network and from the University of Arizona who will be on site. And they have created this beautiful plan of how we can change the landscape, bringing the water back for all of us. And at the volunteer session, you get to do hands-on learning from experts.

And there's also a track where you can do more of a retreat during that same time and still learn. And so the important thing is to come, get involved. But I think people can take advantage of doing some retreat time before or after if there's cabins available.

So I'll let Sunam talk about that.

[Speaker 2]
And also Alex has organized the beautiful lineup of speakers. So when you come, you learn a lot about reforestation, how you can apply it at home, how you can make the waters stay on your own land at home. So it has three components.

It's like really the work help us building the loose rock dams that the water stays. Then we have these incredible speakers lined up, classes every day. And then in the evening we do yoga and meditation.

So it's really a very beautiful package. So you can either come as volunteer, you get free food, you have to work a few hours per day and you can join the classes. Or as Alex said, you can also come for a equal retreat.

You can do a little bit every day if really physical work is not your strength or not your favorite activity. Then you just join us for a little bit every day and join the classes and do retreat the rest of the day. So if we could have the QR code.

Yes, the QR code of the asking the waters to stay this was gonna lead you to the information you need to register, correct? Yes, there's all the information. And sorry Juan, I'm always talking so much that you cannot even ask us questions.

Do you have a question? No, not really. I'm just excited to see how Diamond Mountain is really, really blossoming because I have the chance to...

My first time I visited there, it was in 2014, I think, just when the three-year retreat was getting to completion. And I've seen it thrive so much in many different ways. It's so beautiful.

And this last time that I go, I was able to see the impact that this project is already doing in the land. It's really noticeable. I was there in the first session with Sky Harvest.

We actually were there like planting trees. Long story, I got sick, so I didn't plant many, but anyways, I can see and it's so beautiful. And now if we combine this project with the other project of the Dunhuang Caves, I think Diamond Mountain is just becoming to see like a little paradise on earth or something like that.

So it's wonderful, wonderful. Congratulations. And I will encourage people to get involved.

It's a great time to spend there in a retreat center with nature. You make amazing friends, you learn a lot and plant very, very powerful seeds, physical seeds and how do you call it? Mental seeds.

[Speaker 1]
One, just one correction on our slide that's showing it's 2024, not 2025. Sorry, sorry about that. We're speeding ahead to when the trees and seeds are growing bigger.

[Speaker 2]
Okay, so it's this year, this year. Okay, so thank you so much. We'll keep you posted again soon.

And for now we will have to go to our next class with Adam Andrade and Kesha Michael Roach. Thank you very much.

[Speaker 1]
Thank you for having us. Thank you. Hi, Dr. Kramer. Hi, thank you, Juan. Adam, there you are standing by. Wonderful.

Wonderful to see you. Forward. Here we go.

Yeah, I have to apologize for the black shirt. I don't have my tie and coat today.