«Дар освобождения», курс 41 «Сила доброго сердца», занятие 2

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I thought you'd like to see the ancient book for DC-11, okay? And look, you don't have to worry much about the ancient language, but it's a good seed in your mind for the future, okay? So, just relax and you can look at it.

You don't have to worry much. Yeah, and Hasa's Tibetan is quite good.

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I said quite good.

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So, we can kind of look at it together. The first one is called DANG MYONG. Say DANG MYONG, please.

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DANG MYONG.

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You don't have to learn it in this lifetime, okay? I'm planting seeds for next time.

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We have a date, okay? For next life.

[Говорящий 1]
Does he need to do something?

[Говорящий 2]
Tim was giving me some instructions.

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Don't move my head when I talk. That's the instruction. Alright, we will not do it.

So, DANG MYONG means start out with equal towards all people. And that's difficult. Like our family, naturally we care more about them.

So, it's very difficult to be equal to everyone. Okay, second step. Say MAR SHES.

Fifty years ago, I went to my first class in the Himalayas. And I had to pass an examination to get into the class. And the Lama who was teaching, translating the class, he was my neighbor.

And he wanted me to get into the class. But I didn't know any Tibetan. And actually it was Shantideva who did the class about Shantideva.

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But I had to take entrance examination.

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So, there's a board of three Lamas.

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Very high.

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This one is Tenzin Chinle. He's in the Vajradhini lineage. He's in higher lineage.

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And he said, are you ready for your exam?

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He promised me I don't have to worry, but actually I don't know anything.

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Then he said, okay, please translate this Tibetan word.

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And I'm like, okay. Mama. And I'm like, Ma?

Good. And then, Papa. He said, Dad?

Good, you passed. So, here it is. Ma means as the mother, as your mother.

She means to know that other people have been your mom. Okay. The next line has the name of a nice book in it.

Who can guess?

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Tim? Katrin. Katrin.

Say Katrin. Repeat Katrin.

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Yeah, Katrin means the kindness of your teacher or the kindness of your mom.

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Okay, Katrin.

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And we wrote a, I wrote a book in my three year retreat. And it's called Katrin. And it means the kindness of my teachers.

And the teacher, when I was in high school, who taught me how to write, she's an old grumpy lady named Katrin. But she taught me to write for two years. So, secretly I put her name on the book.

And it's Katrin. So, here it says chin chen. Say chin chen.

Chin chen means remember the kindness of your mother. Every person in this room has, this is weird, okay, Jose? This is a little bit strange.

I also gave you milk from my breast. And you also gave me milk from your breast.

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And it's a little strange, okay? But you got to get used to it.

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All of us gave milk to each other. And each one of us is part of each other person. Because we gave our body to each other.

And just think about it sometimes. Mathematically, it's certain that we did that. Because time is infinite.

And you cannot kill the human mind. You can stop the blood. You can kill the flesh.

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But the human mind is independent of this.

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And it has lived forever. Okay. So Jose, don't forget, all right?

All right. Then he added something here. Say chin chen khe pawa.

Say khe pawa. Yeah, it means a special kindness. And 35 years, we are saving the ancient books of Asia.

I'll give you an example. So Harvard University has the biggest collection of Western classic books in the world. Western, yeah.

And then it's 530 books.

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530.

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Yeah, 530.

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In our tradition, it's 300,000.

[Говорящий 1]
Okay, and they are spread all over the world. In strange libraries in the Himalayas and everywhere. So for 35 years, we are working to find them.

John Brady's in Mongolia right now, I think. In finding more books. Then we photograph them.

Then we input them. And we have a big group of refugees in India. We are inputting for three generations now.

And John Brady has finished 12 million pages.

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And it's online for free.

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Then, so he says something strange here. He says, remember the kindness of Jose.

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And then remember his special kindness.

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So, if I don't know what's a special kindness, I can search in the database. In two seconds, I can search 12 million pages. And what it said was, when we say special kindness, maybe it means that Jose has been my Lama before.

And I have been your Lama.

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We have been each other's Lama.

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And after this life, we don't know who's going to be the Lama, you or me. That's why I have to make sure they make good coffee for the Lama. It might be you, it might be me.

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And that's one way to understand special, kyeparwa.

[Говорящий 1]
But it also means, when you think about kindness of your teacher, the special teacher is everybody that you ever meet. Everyone around you is your teacher. Now, I have to say one thing about Guadalajara group.

How many years ago?

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30 years ago, I started to teach what we call Diamond Way. And this is a way to become Buddha in one life.

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And I taught it for 14 years. And then I graduate about 50 people. And then I was waiting for a second group.

And I waited about 10 years, I think. And then it came. And it's from this city called Guadalajara.

And I'd like to thank all the ACI teachers, Tim and other teachers, John, Jigme, Gyelse, the other teachers teaching Diamond Way. And they're teaching the Guadalajara team, the older students, Diamond Way. And there are also some students from Europe and other places.

But I'm very grateful to them. I'd like to give them a hand. And that teaching Diamond Way to somebody is the special kindness here.

Keparwa.

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Okay, step number four.

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And here's the Tibetan. Say, DRIN GZO.

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DRIN means catching. Kindness. GZO means to pay it back.

[Говорящий 1]
So that's step number four. And then SAM BYED means, this is the foundation. See, first start equal thoughts about everybody.

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Understand they've been your mother. Understand they gave you milk and all the other things.

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And then try to pay them back. That's the foundation. And here it says SAM BYED.

SAM BYED means start with that foundation and then go further. Now say another thing. Say, BDAG GZHAN.

MNYAM BYAS. BDAG GZHAN. MNYAM BYAS.

Hey, you guys got to wake up.

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By the way, why we do so early?

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If we start at seven o'clock, it's ten o'clock in Asia. At night, at night. So we are spreading out the suffering.

They have to stay up late, you have to get up early. And it's the only way to teach everybody at the same time. I think teaching from recording is a little bit boring.

So we have to get up early, they have to stay up late. Unfortunately, Columbus proved the world is round. Alright, so number five.

Say BDAG GZHAN. MNYAM BYAS. This is called This is a famous, famous from Master Shantideva.

Famous idea from Master Shantideva. And sometimes we say, what do you call it? Sometimes they call it a wrong name in English.

To who? To what? This idea.

Exchanging self and others.

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Sometimes they call it exchanging yourself and others.

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And that's a mistranslation. It's actually two different ideas. It's called MNYAM BYAS.

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MNYAM BYAS means equal and then exchange. Okay, so what's the difference?

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The first part, equal, it's the same as the first step in the eleven.

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The first step is try to treat everybody equally.

[Говорящий 1]
It doesn't mean treat everybody equally bad. It means treat equally good. Yeah, okay.

Then number five is a little bit different. And number five, it's not so much that you treat everybody equal. It's that everybody has an equal right to be happy.

Nobody has more right to be happy than somebody else. And I'm thinking a lot about the wars nowadays going on. I think if you have this number five thought, it's impossible to have a war.

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We all have equal right to be happy.

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It's not that one country has more right and one country has less right.

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That's strange. We all have equal right to be happy. And that's number five.

[Говорящий 1]
So, number five is what they call exchanging self and others, but it's a little bit different. But that's a mistranslation.

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It's two steps. Number one, everybody has equal right to happiness.

[Говорящий 1]
And if you don't master that one first, you cannot go to the second one. So, first you have to agree everyone has equal right to be happy.

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By the way, in number five, you don't have to do anything yet. Just mentally, inside of your own self, admit and be happy. Admit and accept that everyone has equal right to be happy.

Then go to number six.

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DANG CHEN GZIN GYI RGYUD MI NAS BSTAN PA It means, say DANG CHEN GZIN. DANG CHEN GZIN. DANG CHEN GZIN means, there was a book in America, like ten years ago, maybe Kat remembers, I don't know.

It's called Watching Out for Number One.

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Taking Care of Number One.

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And it was like number one book selling book in America. You have to take care of yourself first. That's the complete opposite of this.

RGYUD MI NAS BSTAN PA means, look, try to understand that taking care of yourself first, it causes you hundreds of problems in your life. Try to understand. When you try to take everything first, I should be first.

I should get the churros first. Why Geshe-la doesn't learn Spanish and Chinese? He just learns the words for donut, churro, ponchi, yotiao.

So number six means, try to understand how many problems come from taking care of yourself first. By the way, this is the essence of all the time, all the money, all the effort we did to come here.

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It's like, and why you spent your money to come here. And it's a tremendous amount of work for Tim and the other people.

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It's like, and why you spent your money to come here. From Bolivia or wherever. All of the money we spend, all the time we spend, is for one thing.

By the time we leave this beautiful place, at least we should think, maybe taking care of myself first creates some problems to me.

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And that's, if you seriously have that thought in your mind, maybe taking care of myself first gave me trouble in my life. Maybe.

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Then you had a successful retreat. That's all. If it just happened, I don't know, if you go to lunch and you start to grab the first quesadilla and then you say, oh no, you take, you know.

Or you think about why it's a problem to take the first one.

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If you hesitate for one second, then you have a successful retreat.

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Because it plants an unstoppable seed in your mind.

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Later you'll be able to give your arm to another person. But it starts with quesadillas. And if you have that thought, maybe I shouldn't take the first one.

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Then you had a successful retreat already. And the rest is just dessert. Alright.

So number six. Think about how much trouble came in your life by taking care of yourself first. By the way, it's human nature to take care of yourself first.

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Why?

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We live in, we call it a broken world.

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This is a broken world.

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Once you come to this world, your ass is in trouble.

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Once you're in a human body, you're already going to have trouble.

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Because they will fall apart. I did this stupid yoga for how many years? 24 years.

24. Because I want to look like Anatole. But still, your body will fall apart.

It doesn't matter if you do yoga. I mean, yoga will make it slow down. But all of us, our body will fall apart.

So once we are in this world, that's a sign that what brought us to this world is a problem. If you go to a world where your body has to die, you must have made some mistake before that. The result, the punishment is you have to live in a body which will fall apart.

Then the cause must have happened before that. And we can't see it, we can't remember.

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You can see it with your third eye. Third eye is logic.

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If they put me in the jail this life, maybe I did something last life. That's called third eye. That's logic.

What did I do that I went to the jail? Then you have to look at your most basic instincts in this life.

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And the most basic instinct of a human baby is to take care of themselves first. They will try to get the milk first. It's human nature.

It's a sign of where we came from. And the whole purpose of Dharma is to fight that human nature.

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Because that human nature brought you I call it a rental car. This is a rental car. When I go to visit my mom, step mother, I fly to San Diego.

I rent a car. I drive it around. I have to take it back and then I have to give it back.

So, this is a rental car.

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By the way, you only get one in this life.

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You can't say, I don't like the SUV, can you give me a sports car? You get stuck with one by your mom. And then, by the way, you have to take care of it.

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It's going to fall apart anyway.

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Hair will fall out.

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All kinds of things will happen.

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But you need your rental car.

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Otherwise you can't do anything. So, it's a big part of these programs.

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Learn how to do yoga. Or learn how to eat well. And then, slow down the braking of the rental car as far as possible.

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Because you need it. To get out of this world, you need to be in this world.

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And I don't mean that life is all suffering. In the diamond way, I'll give you the essence of the diamond way.

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If time is infinite, then logically, oh, if time is infinite and if I can come to this world one time, I must have been here a billion times.

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Because infinite is very long. It's like if you throw the dice infinite times. Is it possible you throw the dice and the dice fall exactly right to stay on the point of the dice?

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I mean, it's possible. If it's possible once, it's possible a billion times.

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Okay, so I have been here. The dice landed on the chip and stayed there balanced countless times. How many rental cars I took in my lives?

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It's endless. Then how many rental cars did you take?

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It's endless.

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Maybe there's people around us who already became Buddha.

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The dice landed on the tip.

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Mathematically, it's probably true that there are some spies in this group.

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Buddha spies. We don't know who they are.

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Sometimes the Buddha tries to piss you off so you can improve. If the person who piss you off very possibly Buddha, then we got to be careful. We got to be nice to everybody.

We don't know who's Buddha.

[Говорящий 1]
By the way, the Buddha tried to look like not Buddha. The most irritating person in your life is more probably Buddha. Okay, so number six is just try to understand there's a lot of problems when you take the first churro.

It's human nature to take the first one. It's human nature that I should be human.

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It's human nature to think I should be first. But that human nature didn't work.

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That human nature brought you this rental car. And this one is broken. If it didn't break yet, it's breaking.

If you don't have cancer yet, just try to live a little longer and you can get it. That's the nature of this body. By the way, when you get the cancer you can't get out of the rental car.

You're stuck in the rental car. It's like you got in the rental car and all the doors go chuk, chuk. And you have to stay here until it's finished.

Okay, so to summarize, being stuck in this breakable rental car, the punishment to live in this body, it must have had some bad cause. I must have done something. And it's the habit of taking care of myself first.

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And the purpose of this retreat all the hard work to come here is just to fight that habit. And if you fight it for two minutes at lunch after this talk, if there's one churro left and there's two people waiting, and you're like, look over there! Then, if you hesitate, look over, if you just hesitate for ten seconds, then that will break that habit later.

You are planting the seed to destroy that behavior. When you hesitate and then you take the last churro yourself, all the money and trouble and work that we spent to get here, if you hesitate for ten seconds, before you take the last one yourself, you had a successful retreat. Because it's not human nature.

Our nature is to take the first one, the first person. And your whole life, your whole Dharma life, you have to fight that habit. Number seven, it is so fun to fight that habit.

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Okay? And then suddenly you discover what is joy. How much fun it is to give the first one to somebody else.

And I hope the lamas bless us to feel that joy in our life.

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I give the first one to you.

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And then that's total joy.

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And your whole life will be fun. Just get the habit. Here, you take the first one.

You take the first one. Oh, there's nothing left for you Geshe-la.

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Yeah, that's cool. And you just get so happy. And it's such a joy.

Then your life in the jail becomes a joy.

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Then just take care of other people first. But Geshe-la, what if I don't get enough? What if there's no more churros in the kitchen?

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God, don't you understand? That comes from taking the first one in the past. It's crazy talk.

Geshe-la, if I give away churro to everybody, I won't have churro. That's true, but that's coming because you didn't give away the first one in the past.

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If you don't like churro, don't give to other people. Keep it for yourself. Then you will never have more churro.

Got it?

[Говорящий 1]
And it's so fun to give to other people.

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Okay, totally.

[Говорящий 1]
Your whole life will be fun if you try. There's a small time gap. And then the churro tsunami comes back to you.

Everyone banging on your door. No more, Geshe-la, you need some churro? No, I already have enough churro, go away.

There's a small time gap after you start learning this habit to give the first one to other people.

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And then stuff comes to you.

[Говорящий 1]
And I'm not bragging, but why I have hundred dollar bills coming out of my backpack? I learned the secret. Give them away as fast as you can.

Then the tsunami comes. Really. And it's fun.

That's the best thing.

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It's fun to give away hundred dollar bills. And then the more you give, the more they come. Jigme came to my room yesterday.

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She's like, is everything okay, Geshe-la? You seemed upset yesterday. Yeah, I said I was a little bit upset yesterday.

Because I don't know where's my bank account. I have all these bank accounts. I don't know the number, I don't know the bank.

I don't know the password. Then she took Guadalajara group to Diamond Mountain on a one month retreat. I don't know how to get five dollars out of my bank account.

It's a good problem, right? Okay.

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So, we're going to talk about this retreat is success if you just try once to give the first thing to somebody else. There are secret Buddhas sitting in this room.

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It's possible everybody in this room is Buddha except Geshe Michael. And they are allowing Geshe Michael to teach so that maybe he will listen to himself.

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But it's also possible there are some demons in this room.

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And they are hoping that you don't give the other person the first churro. They are hoping.

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Then when you give the first churro to somebody else at lunch today, I hope you have churros Tim.

[Говорящий 1]
Then you are punching the demon in the head. It's so fun. Yeah, there's probably some demon here.

Then you say, oh hi, you take the first churro. Then it's like you punch the demon in the head. They're like, ah, he gave me the first churro.

He wasn't asleep in the class. We have to put people to sleep.

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All right. Number seven.

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GZHAN GZHAN BRTZAN GYIS YIN TEN GO BRDGOS MA LAS SEMS PA Think about how much fun it is to take care of other people first. And you just have to get a taste of it. We call it rasa, right?

Rasa. You just have to taste it.

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It's so fun to take care of other people first.

[Говорящий 1]
And you can have a whole lifetime of fun. So, I don't know. My teacher taught me this 50 years ago.

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Exactly 50 years ago.

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I'm trying to give other people the first churro for 50 years. I don't always succeed.

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But it made my whole life fun.

[Говорящий 1]
So, just try. All right. Tim, when am I supposed to shut up?

Huh? How much? 13 more minutes.

Okay. All right, we'll take a break in 13 minutes.

[Говорящий 2]
13?

[Говорящий 1]
Yes.

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I don't know, Marina says four, but she says 13. 13.

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What time of day am I supposed to stop this class?

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8.30? 8.30?

[Говорящий 1]
8.30, Tim? 8.15. Okay, good. All right, let's go.

And then we'll take a 15 minute break? 30. 30 minute break.

Oh, that's enough to have two churros. Okay, number eight. ,BDAG GZHAN BRAL BAR BSAM PA NGO DON BRAL BAR, ,SNYING RJE GRIG PA BRTZAL DU, ,KHRENG DE DE'I RNAMS SBRANG BA YIN PAS, ,BDAG GZHAN BRAL BAR BSAM PA NGO, Learn to exchange yourself and others.

This is a very deep practice. It is not what it sounds like. It sounds like, in English we say, I should put myself in your shoes.

Like I'm up here teaching.

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Then if I'm a good person, I'm supposed to think about how does haso feel. Am I speaking too fast? Am I using strange words?

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Am I not being logical? He cannot guess what's next. Then I have to think about him.

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And that feels like exchanging myself and haso. I put myself on the other half of the couch.

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My body is on the right side of the couch, from my viewpoint.

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And his body is on the left side of the couch.

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So to put, in English we say, put yourself in his shoes.

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How does it feel to be the translator this morning? Is that what Shantideva taught? No, it's only half.

It's only half.

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What's the rest, Geshe-la? In the classic exchanging self and others of Shantideva.

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There's two steps.

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Number one, I have to put my mind in haso's body.

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I have to feel how does he feel to be translator this morning. But the second half, I have to look at Geshe Michael and see how does he treat people. That's important, second half of this practice.

I'll say it again. This practice, number eight, it really has two parts.

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Number one is obvious. I should put my mind inside of haso's body. And then I should think about is it easy for him to translate?

Am I speaking clearly? Like that.

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But the second half of that exchange, I put myself in haso's body and then I look at Geshe Michael. How does he treat other people?

[Говорящий 1]
And that's essential, second part of this practice. Is he nice to other people? Is he bad to other people?

You want to go deeper? See, it's different, right? In Taiwan.

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No, in Taiwan I taught them to go, in Taiwan I tell them, and they go crazy. And here in Guadalajara, they're like, yeah, okay. It's okay, every country is different.

There's three kinds of the exchange.

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And it depends on your position with the other person.

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For example, at your work, is this person your supervisor? Does this person work for you?

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Or are you colleagues? Are you peers? Okay, and we'll go, we'll do that when we get there.

We're not there yet. Okay, number nine. BYAMS PA LA GNYIS YOD PAS BYAMS PA LA GNYIS means there's, number nine is love, but there's two different kinds.

YOD PAS BDE BA DANG LDAN BDE GYIS BYAMS PA This kind of love is called I want you to have something nice. I'll say it again. There's two kinds of love.

One is where you want the other person to have something beautiful, something nice. And that's the emphasis on number nine. What's the other kind of love?

I think protection.

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Protection.

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Okay, good. Okay, number nine. If you reach number nine and you want other people to have happiness, then you will start to do a hundred dollars.

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The word is here. The word is here. He got you to translate.

Exactly.

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Yeah, number nine is love.

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And it's a love where you give somebody else happiness.

[Говорящий 1]
And there's a special word for that. Anywhere I'll tell you. It's the DONG of DONG LEN.

Okay, so there's a bridge here.

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Love, not compassion.

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Love is number nine.

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That's where you want to give something nice to somebody else.

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And that's called the DONG of DONG LEN. DONG LEN is a practice.

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It's a pranayama. It's a breathing practice.

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And your breath is closely related to your mental state.

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If you can control your breath, you can control your mental state. When you feel upset, slow down. Try to breathe slower.

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And there's this, you know, this pranayama.

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Breath practice. So, for number nine, it's connected to a breathing practice. And that breathing practice is called DONG LEN.

Giving and taking. Giving and taking. Give other people nice things.

Take away their problems. In your imagination. On your breath.

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It's very cool. I used to commute two hours to work each way.

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Nineteen years. Four hours in the bus every day.

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Then when I get out of the bus, I have to get in the subway. And New York subway is dangerous. And everyone's like this.

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Everyone's like this.

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And it's strange because the seats face each other. So you're like And then, I used to do DONG LEN every morning on the subway. And then they're like And it's a lot of fun, okay?

This guy, he's all nervous, he's going to work, you know. Then I'm like Probably he thinks I'm on cocaine or something. So, you can do DONG LEN with other people.

And it's a secret practice. You don't have to tell anybody. You can just like You can pretend you have a cold.

Okay, so it's a very profound number nine.

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Because you are using your broken human body to love other people.

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And it changes your body. It changes your health, by the way. Happy is, my wife is a massage therapist.

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We met each other 53 years ago.

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And people ask her, she has many cancer patients.

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She gives them massages.

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By the way, she charges a lot. Last week, the lady gave her three chicken eggs. For two and a half hour massage.

I'm like, honey, it takes gasoline to drive to her house. You can't put the chicken eggs in the gasoline tank. She's like, don't worry, it'll be okay.

Then someone asked her, if you massage a cancer patient, doesn't the cancer vibration get into your body? And she laughed, she said, no, it's the opposite. When you massage the cancer patient, when you do tong len, when you give to them, you get super energy.

Pure, beautiful energy fills you. And if you know her, you know she has this energy.